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2013-05-11 09:05:21 AM  

OlderGuy: robohobo: Al-Barzakh Cemetery,  in Doswell, Virginia.

Have at it, VA farkers.

What was buried was the container.  The person is hopefully rotting in hell.. The burial site is about 1/2 hour away from here.. and I have no problems with that, only with those that won't let it go.... need the required quote now.. " He,s dead, Jim "...


Noble, considering you actually live near it and get to comment.

Myself, I thgink most fear passing and being forgotten. His grave will be unmarked, not become a shrine, (the good locals will not allow that I'm sure, no snark intended) his family will not even visit. Humanity has washed their hands of you.

Bye now.
 
2013-05-11 09:07:39 AM  
Were we a society which did not fear his body, which did not feel the want to desecrate his corpse or burial in some final act of violence we wish we could act out on the living, we would be a society with fewer incidents to cause such grief and turmoil.
 
2013-05-11 09:12:29 AM  
 They should have embalmed him and displayed him at King's Dominion theme park. They could have used him as a dart game or on a water tank drop.
  I trust my neighbors just down I95 will do the right thing: Disinter him and hang him in effigy.
 
2013-05-11 09:15:05 AM  
FFS, people, the corpse was buried according to the wishes of his family!  They claimed it according to MA law, which does NOT allow the coroner to withhold a corpse for desecration.   What in Hell makes you all assume that "we, the People" had any claim to it or say in what to do with it?
 
2013-05-11 09:16:46 AM  

TommyymmoT: There is a lesson to be learned here.

DON'T die as a virgin.
There are terrorists up there just waiting to have their way with you.


Solid advice.
 
2013-05-11 09:19:07 AM  
Someone will dig his ass up and perform a proper disposal.
And someone else will violate his wife.

Then justice will be served.
 
2013-05-11 09:24:38 AM  

hardinparamedic: Should have donated his body to medical research. Problem solved


Isn't there a place in TN where they put bodies in a wooded area to rot to teach forensics? That could work
 
2013-05-11 09:28:53 AM  
Mix them in with the cat litter, let Fluffy tend to them respectfully when taking a shiat
 
2013-05-11 09:34:52 AM  
Hope someone threw some pork in his grave with him.
 
2013-05-11 09:38:09 AM  
Came for the Virginians, stayed for Whole Wheat's filter pwnage.

Leaving satisfied. ^_^

\ Boobies.
 
2013-05-11 09:47:51 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: It doesn't so much look like a cemetery as a "empty space below a high tension power line right-of-way."



Seems like a better bet would have been to drag the carcass over to Kings Dominion amusement park and make it into a game of some sort where you get to throw things at it and try to win a prize.


Or right by the exit on the Tilt-A-Whirl.

BLARRRRPPP
 
2013-05-11 09:50:52 AM  

doglover: snuff3r: just seems redundant to be upset about his burial

It's not about his burial per se, it's about people who do care doing shiat at the grave site.

I personally don't care. But I don't care so much it's a non-issue. Burn him up to bones, toss the bones in a landfill, and let's move on.


That's why you don't label the grave... it happens all the damn time.
 
2013-05-11 09:55:33 AM  

dave2198: doglover: snuff3r: just seems redundant to be upset about his burial

It's not about his burial per se, it's about people who do care doing shiat at the grave site.

I personally don't care. But I don't care so much it's a non-issue. Burn him up to bones, toss the bones in a landfill, and let's move on.

That's why you don't label the grave... it happens all the damn time.


The name of the cemetery is already online; it is a small place with less than 2 dozen grave sites. The local town government is saying they're trying to find any laws that were broken so they can force them to remove the body. I'll be amazed if someone doesn't vandalize the place within 12 months.
 
2013-05-11 09:56:03 AM  

dave2198: doglover: snuff3r: just seems redundant to be upset about his burial

It's not about his burial per se, it's about people who do care doing shiat at the grave site.

I personally don't care. But I don't care so much it's a non-issue. Burn him up to bones, toss the bones in a landfill, and let's move on.

That's why you don't label the grave... it happens all the damn time.


Not sure about the effectiveness of unmarked graves.  There will be four in this cemetery, so maybe all of them will be vandalized.

Perhaps a decoy grave would be wiser.  Put his name on it and leave it empty.
 
2013-05-11 10:02:16 AM  

SomeoneDumb: While those consumed with passion and hatred, or the very young, made a big deal out of his burial place, I sorta think no matter where he's buried that in six months or so no one will care. Far worse people throughout history have had graves that attracted followers or haters for a short time, but even after ten short years most people have moved on and the gravesite is as ignored as all the rest.


except that Wahabism has a "it's ok to break the rules if it is done in the name of Allah and to further the cause"  see 911 hijackers shaving off their beards,  going to peeler bars,  etc.
 
2013-05-11 10:03:27 AM  

Jacobin: hardinparamedic: Should have donated his body to medical research. Problem solved

Isn't there a place in TN where they put bodies in a wooded area to rot to teach forensics? That could work


Yes, there is.

LINK
 
2013-05-11 10:08:22 AM  

Carth: dave2198: doglover: snuff3r: just seems redundant to be upset about his burial

It's not about his burial per se, it's about people who do care doing shiat at the grave site.

I personally don't care. But I don't care so much it's a non-issue. Burn him up to bones, toss the bones in a landfill, and let's move on.

That's why you don't label the grave... it happens all the damn time.

The name of the cemetery is already online; it is a small place with less than 2 dozen grave sites. The local town government is saying they're trying to find any laws that were broken so they can force them to remove the body. I'll be amazed if someone doesn't vandalize the place within 12 months.


And? People will get over it. People always get over it. There are people who are buried who have committed far worse atrocities, and they don't need security on the grave site. You put up with the vandals for a couple months (years?), then it goes away.
 
2013-05-11 10:08:51 AM  

Slappy McLongstockings: Does anyone know where they bury the CEOs of energy companies and the like that kill many more children by ordering the poisoning of land and water for profit? or the CEOs of apparel companies who intentionally out-source work to countries who do not really care if 1000 people die?

One might argue the only decent people on this planet are ones unborn.


One might argue the stupid. Completely overlooking the many that devote themselves to helping others in the field of medicine, education, research, volunteers who help the homeless and the masses who somehow get from cradle to grave without causing others undue misery in between and you've got something.
 
2013-05-11 10:10:54 AM  

Millennium: I am not a person who believes that people are entitled to very much just for existing, but for the body to be properly disposed of does make my list.


So do I...but that doesn't imply a burial plot in the ground to me (not saying it does to you, either). There are 310,000,000+ living persons in America now, with 4,000,000+ new ones born every year (that's 11,000+ EVERY DAY). More to the point, there are nearly 7,000 deaths every day in America. To bury them all adds about 2 acres of cemetery space daily, or more than a square mile a year.

To me that's ridiculous. I think we should be a little more efficient and environmentally conscious. To me that means the dead who are not used for medical research should be cremated, and if the ashes are not claimed by the family, disposed of in the nearest land fill. Done.
 
2013-05-11 10:11:49 AM  

gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse? He's going to end up in the ground, it's just a question of where.

It's not like you're hurting his feelings.


This.  I can understand not doing it in Massachusetts- but why do people in Virginia care?  The man is dead- he can't bomb them anymore.  Get over it.
 
2013-05-11 10:12:11 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: It doesn't so much look like a cemetery as a "empty space below a high tension power line right-of-way."

[i40.tinypic.com image 850x552]

Seems like a better bet would have been to drag the carcass over to Kings Dominion amusement park and make it into a game of some sort where you get to throw things at it and try to win a prize.


My guess would be that it's behind that row of trees.
 
2013-05-11 10:13:33 AM  

nathanjr: FTA: "There were also four unmarked plots, one of which presumably contained Tsarnaev's body."

I'm guessing his is the one next to Arch Stanton's. At least that's what Bill Carson told me.


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Have a name?  A number?  Don't die yet, I'll get you water. You can die later.
 
2013-05-11 10:13:57 AM  

KrispyKritter: Slappy McLongstockings: Does anyone know where they bury the CEOs of energy companies and the like that kill many more children by ordering the poisoning of land and water for profit? or the CEOs of apparel companies who intentionally out-source work to countries who do not really care if 1000 people die?

One might argue the only decent people on this planet are ones unborn.

One might argue the stupid. Completely overlooking the many that devote themselves to helping others in the field of medicine, education, research, volunteers who help the homeless and the masses who somehow get from cradle to grave without causing others undue misery in between and you've got something.


Note that only CEOs are people in Slappy's world.
 
2013-05-11 10:14:46 AM  
 
2013-05-11 10:14:54 AM  
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Whole Wheat Boobies? (nsfw image)
 
2013-05-11 10:15:18 AM  
Oops, I meant to write that at this point, you can't do anything else to the man, the only people you are hurting are his family by not letting them bury the body.  Why should they suffer any more than a family of a victim did?  They will always carry that stigma forever.  Don't give them grief about burying a rotting corpse.
 
2013-05-11 10:16:28 AM  

Slam Bradley: Unrelated but the other thing that bothered me - I'm disappointed that we just handed all this over to the Feds without a peep.  We have laws on the books for this, the crimes happened in MA, he was caught by the BPD, they should of at least fought about trying to prosecute the surviving guy in MA courts.  The guy isn't Lex Luthor - just prosecute him, throw him in jail and be done with it.


Just because he is facing Federal charges first does not mean the state could not come after him afterward. But let's face it, barring some huge cooperation deal with the Feds that reveals a giant Chechen terrorist network, this kid is headed for the gurney and another unmarked grave. Trying the dead was given up after James exhumed and tried Cromwell wasn't it?
 
2013-05-11 10:19:21 AM  
The only thing Doswell is known for is Kings Dominion. News reports from the cemetery show the roller coasters in the background. Don't worry guys, we've got this. Road trip fellow Virginians to dig him up and throw his body into a pig pen? Don't worry about it being an "unmarked grave". The various news reports had reporters standing right in front of his grave so it will be easy to find by studying the video. We just have to wait until the deputy stops parking there. Give it a few months.
 
2013-05-11 10:20:29 AM  

Kibbler: +1 subby. The perfect headline.


Thank you.  *bows*

Oh, and  Whole Wheat?

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2013-05-11 10:22:37 AM  
 
2013-05-11 10:23:45 AM  

rev. dave: Times like these require remedial reading about the golden rule and its reverse the dumbass rule.
If you don't want him to be buried then that says you would rather have your own corpse dumped along the side of the road when you die for the buzzards to eat.


Actually, I would be cool with knowing my corpse gets passed around like some kind of slow moving game of hot potato.

/Probably not the best person to ask
 
2013-05-11 10:23:48 AM  
My only problem with this is that they should have kept their goddamn mouths shut about it.  WTF is wrong with people that they can't, for the sake of good order, just NOT FARKING SAY ANYTHING?
 
2013-05-11 10:24:00 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Not sure about the effectiveness of unmarked graves. There will be four in this cemetery, so maybe all of them will be vandalized.


It's the one next to the grave marked Arch Stanton!

/Why is everyone having such a hard time typing "first post"?
 
2013-05-11 10:24:13 AM  
Wow, people are assholes. He's never been more than a suspect. Never had a trial. Never actually convicted of anything. And even if he was - his body shouldn't be buried? Seriously? It's not like someone gave him a shrine and a parade, just the simple custom of burying the dead. Everyone needs to get over themselves on this one.
 
2013-05-11 10:26:32 AM  
Eternity? A couple of weeks maybe.
 
2013-05-11 10:29:40 AM  

OlderGuy: robohobo: Al-Barzakh Cemetery,  in Doswell, Virginia.

Have at it, VA farkers.

What was buried was the container.  The person is hopefully rotting in hell.. The burial site is about 1/2 hour away from here.. and I have no problems with that, only with those that won't let it go.... need the required quote now.. " He,s dead, Jim "...


They buried this moron 4 miles from my house.  Been nothing but news crews hanging around trying to get quotes from locals.  I'm sure they will grab a few choice ones because my neighbors (all two of them within five miles) are pretty upset about it.

It doesn't bother me.  Cemeteries aren't for the dead, they are for the living.  This guy's family and friends who didn't have anything to do with the bombing somehow have to resolve his terrible final act with the person he was.  Keeping him above ground for no reason other than spite just punishes them simply for being related to a monster.

He's dead.  You can't punish him any more than he already has been.
 
2013-05-11 10:30:13 AM  
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2013-05-11 10:37:47 AM  

DesktopHippie: Mmmm... freshly baked whole wheat boobies...


STAHP!!!!

I've already been biatchslapped by the filter, now I'm a meme.
 
2013-05-11 10:59:52 AM  

Whole Wheat: DesktopHippie: Mmmm... freshly baked whole wheat boobies...

STAHP!!!!

I've already been biatchslapped by the filter, now I'm a meme.


There, there.

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2013-05-11 11:06:17 AM  

CheatCommando: Slam Bradley: Unrelated but the other thing that bothered me - I'm disappointed that we just handed all this over to the Feds without a peep.  We have laws on the books for this, the crimes happened in MA, he was caught by the BPD, they should of at least fought about trying to prosecute the surviving guy in MA courts.  The guy isn't Lex Luthor - just prosecute him, throw him in jail and be done with it.

Just because he is facing Federal charges first does not mean the state could not come after him afterward. But let's face it, barring some huge cooperation deal with the Feds that reveals a giant Chechen terrorist network, this kid is headed for the gurney and another unmarked grave. Trying the dead was given up after James exhumed and tried Cromwell wasn't it?


I hear what you and PunGent are saying, I just wished they'd of made some amount of stink about it before handing him over.  And not because we don't have a death penalty here either.
 
2013-05-11 11:08:49 AM  

xcv: octopied: robohobo: hardinparamedic: Should have donated his body to medical research. Problem solved

Should have tossed his body in a hog pen.

You can't eat pigs that have eaten a human being.


In the end, who cares? Lots of people who have committed awful atrocities are buried in some graveyard or other. Why the fuss now?Where's Tim Mcveigh? Or like someone said, the guy who shot up sandy Hook?If they're dead...who cares.

Once someone is dead they can't harm anyone.

McVeigh was cremated IIRC.

I think it's normal for people from a Christian background to be anxious about the bomber's burial site becoming a shrine for Islamists and an inspiring rallying point for other jihdaists in America, but I'm pretty sure that venerating grave-sites is explicitly forbidden by the Wahhabi ideology and fundamentalist Muslims aren't going to start making pilgrimages to Virginia any time soon.



Do what?
 
2013-05-11 11:09:36 AM  
Millennium:

That said, it's worth noting that his parents wanted him to be buried in Russia, and he seems to have expressed no particular wishes himself, so he should have been buried there. The person who found him a plot doubtless meant well, but she went against the wishes of his family.

Did the parents offer to buy the plot in Russia and ship the body over?
If not, then too bad
They can save up and dig up the body later and bury it over there when they can afford to
 
2013-05-11 11:13:47 AM  
One day, when whole wheat boobies is synonymous with filter pwnage, you can say "I was there".
 
2013-05-11 11:15:48 AM  

Walker: The only thing Doswell is known for is Kings Dominion. News reports from the cemetery show the roller coasters in the background. Don't worry guys, we've got this. Road trip fellow Virginians to dig him up and throw his body into a pig pen? Don't worry about it being an "unmarked grave". The various news reports had reporters standing right in front of his grave so it will be easy to find by studying the video. We just have to wait until the deputy stops parking there. Give it a few months.


You won't get anywhere near it.  It's a small plot of land in the middle of what counts as "relatively populated" around here.  There are about 15 houses nearby.

For the 3,000 people in Caroline county, there are 34 police officers and an additional 17 state police officers assigned to the county.  They don't have much to do.
 
2013-05-11 11:19:47 AM  

EvilEgg: I hope they dumped a couple of truckloads of concrete on the grave.

/where was the Sandy Hook shooter buried? No one seemed to make a big deal about it
//How about Aurora?


The Aurora shooter is still alive
 
2013-05-11 11:22:16 AM  
Should've tossed him in the ocean. He doesn't deserve a grave on U.S. soil.
 
2013-05-11 11:37:36 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: It doesn't so much look like a cemetery as a "empty space below a high tension power line right-of-way."

[i40.tinypic.com image 850x552]

Seems like a better bet would have been to drag the carcass over to Kings Dominion amusement park and make it into a game of some sort where you get to throw things at it and try to win a prize.


If you look at the aerial, the cemetery is off to the left and well behind that high tension pole, actually.  But truth be told, I agree with the upthread idea of burial at sea.  Since you have people who either want to worship there or defecate or otherwise desecrate there, having an actual spot to do so, even if it is 527 miles from the bombing sites, is not a good idea.  Which is very sad, really, more for the latter group's existence than the former's; I don't get the existence of the latter group at all.  But it's just how I'm wired, I guess.
 
2013-05-11 11:39:40 AM  
Whomever told the media about his burial site is the ultimate troll.
 
2013-05-11 11:48:42 AM  
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