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2013-05-11 07:11:31 AM  

doglover: Hence just dispose of him completely. No muss, no fuss. Can't desecrate what isn't interred there.


How about people just not be immature, vengeful assholes? What he did was terrible, but other people certainly wouldn't be showing how they are more civilized, or even compassionate, if they go raiding this cemetery to vandalize his and other graves in the process.
 
2013-05-11 07:11:47 AM  
Lesson of the day:

"Boobies" = Boobies
 
2013-05-11 07:11:52 AM  

Whole Wheat: Boobies.


Read the faqs, you boobiehead.
 
2013-05-11 07:12:26 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Lesson of the day:

"Boobies" = Boobies


Damn, thought I could get around the filter.
 
2013-05-11 07:12:46 AM  
Boobies.
Whole Wheat is done in them.
 
2013-05-11 07:13:40 AM  
Dammitsomuch! My one day to sleep in and my wife gets ready like a pack of red-arsed monkeys at 6AM.

Then the Boobies filter TORTURES ME before I even have a cup of coffee. Tamerlan got off easy.
 
2013-05-11 07:13:56 AM  
Boobies everywhere. Oh the Boobmanity!
 
2013-05-11 07:15:31 AM  

UDel_Kitty: How about people just not be immature, vengeful assholes?


Good luck with that. It's been 1000's of years since history was recorded and in no single epoch has human nature been fundamentally different.
 
2013-05-11 07:16:00 AM  
He paid for his crimes with his life (yes he still owes a lot more) but now he is Regardless of what he did while he was alive he still should be buried as a human.

If we don't bury terrorists properly what are we going to do with republicans????
 
2013-05-11 07:17:57 AM  
Anybody who pickets a funeral or screams and shouts about this sort of thing really doesn't deserve a seat at the adults' table.
 
2013-05-11 07:22:40 AM  

YoOjo: Boobies.
Whole Wheat is done in them.


Thank you. You just made my weekend.
 
2013-05-11 07:32:32 AM  
Way to sweep the actions of Martha Mullen (you know, one of those rare Christians who actually try to emulate Christ), who did this because we are called to love our enemy, to instead interview a bunch of slack-jawed yokels for more petty vitriol and a few local pols for empty, pandering bluster.

Is the government ever supposed to have a say in where a corpse is buried (presuming that, like here, that "where" is legal cemetery)? How is that not a separation of church and state issue?

Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a complete asshole, that doesn't mean we all need to be, too. It seems Antigone needs to be required reading.
 
2013-05-11 07:33:37 AM  
It doesn't so much look like a cemetery as a "empty space below a high tension power line right-of-way."

i40.tinypic.com

Seems like a better bet would have been to drag the carcass over to Kings Dominion amusement park and make it into a game of some sort where you get to throw things at it and try to win a prize.
 
2013-05-11 07:41:01 AM  

Blasphemous Knave: Way to sweep the actions of Martha Mullen (you know, one of those rare Christians who actually try to emulate Christ), who did this because we are called to love our enemy, to instead interview a bunch of slack-jawed yokels for more petty vitriol and a few local pols for empty, pandering bluster.

Is the government ever supposed to have a say in where a corpse is buried (presuming that, like here, that "where" is legal cemetery)? How is that not a separation of church and state issue?

Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a complete asshole, that doesn't mean we all need to be, too. It seems Antigone needs to be required reading.


No! We should drag his corpse around the capital, draw and quarter him and impale his head on a pike on the White House lawn.

That's the CIVILIZED thing to do.
 
2013-05-11 07:41:09 AM  
The story of the lady that orchestrated the burial is here: Link

A true Christian.
 
2013-05-11 07:42:09 AM  

Blasphemous Knave: Way to sweep the actions of Martha Mullen (you know, one of those rare Christians who actually try to emulate Christ), who did this because we are called to love our enemy, to instead interview a bunch of slack-jawed yokels for more petty vitriol and a few local pols for empty, pandering bluster.

Is the government ever supposed to have a say in where a corpse is buried (presuming that, like here, that "where" is legal cemetery)? How is that not a separation of church and state issue?

Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a complete asshole, that doesn't mean we all need to be, too. It seems Antigone needs to be required reading.


"Slack Jawed Yokels"?  The BBC story on it says that the people most angry are the local Muslims and their imam who have to share a cemetery with him, and that's mainly because they had a notorious terrorist interred amongst their loved ones.  Not only do they not like the implications, they don't want to deal with the people who are going to be attracted to the grave.
 
2013-05-11 07:42:43 AM  
Boobees.
 
2013-05-11 07:44:20 AM  
Fark party to go piss on his grave?
 
2013-05-11 07:44:30 AM  

Whole Wheat: The story of the lady that orchestrated the burial is here: Link

A true Christian.


Dammitsomuch this morning. Her story is here:
http://news.yahoo.com/va-woman-no-regrets-over-role-burial-064738508 .h tml
 
2013-05-11 07:46:11 AM  

robohobo: hardinparamedic: Should have donated his body to medical research. Problem solved

Should have tossed his body in a hog pen.


I am not eating that bacon. Six words I prayed I'd never say.
 
2013-05-11 07:46:22 AM  

doglover: UDel_Kitty: How about people just not be immature, vengeful assholes?

Good luck with that. It's been 1000's of years since history was recorded and in no single epoch has human nature been fundamentally different.


Said, philosophically, the guy who openly suggested relgiously-motivated desecration of Tsarnaev's body like an hour ago. Give it a rest.

Those who talk of grace at any time should focus on this opportunity to exemplify it. No matter what else he was, Tamerlan was a person - he had a mother and a father, he lived in a town and went to a school not unlike our own, and somehow all of his experience led to him wanting to kill as many people as possible (probably due to some amount of mental illness). To attempt to deny his humanity in death is, I can't help but think, an attempt to escape the thought that he is more like each of us than he is different. People did this to people. We should dwell on that as we bury him, and wonder what we can do to prevent people from feeling so estranged from their fellow man - and once they do, what we can do to rescue them (and everyone) from their demons.
 
2013-05-11 07:48:23 AM  

Kibbler: This. Not to mention, we would need to dig up *every* murderer and rapist and throw them in a landfill. Unless this is different...because TERROR? 2003 all over again.


There are many that would be happy to dig up all the Europeans that came to this land...pro bono
 
2013-05-11 07:49:39 AM  
These are not true boobies
 
2013-05-11 07:49:59 AM  
Who gives a shiat what happens to a CORPSE? I understand on some level the need for revenge and the tendency for people to want to dehumanize those who commit heinous crimes, but he's dead, he has ceased to be, he has no idea what is happening anymore, bury him somewhere and be done with it.

An unmarked grave is probably a good idea if he'll be anywhere near other gravesites to avoid incidental damage to surrounding graves by vandals (which is another issue in itself - he's dead, desecrating a grave is pretty pointless).

/The only grave desecration I might support would be a non-stop gay sex orgy on the grave of Fred Phelps, whenever that old coont bites it - still ultimately pointless, but you gotta admit it would be pretty damn funny.

//also Whole Wheat's epic filter pwn made my morning :-)
 
2013-05-11 07:52:08 AM  

Somebody Else: These are not true boobies


(regarding Whole Wheat's trouble posting):
 WTF am I writing? Fark you autocorrect!

All done in the Boobies (some how converted to boobies).


Twice?

ALL DONE IN THE Boobies!!!!
 
2013-05-11 07:52:10 AM  

snuff3r: doglover: snuff3r: And what would that accomplish?

You don't have to be nice to be civilized. The dude blew up an 8 year old. He's garbage. Let's toss him away like the garbage he is.

You want a burial a decent person would get? Die a decent person.

I understand the sentiment, i have an 8 year old myself, just seems redundant to be upset about his burial. He will be remembered a monster and that will never change.  Personally, he should been cremated or simply buried at sea. I can't imagine much grief being assuaged through wasting your time worrying about the craphead's body. Healing and moving on is complicated enough.

But meh, everyone deals with tragedy in their own way ;p


Lets have a fark party and piss on the grave after we all drink kegs of beer
 
2013-05-11 07:52:45 AM  

Whole Wheat: Boobies.


You've been filterpwned!

/Needed that laugh, it was a long night!
 
2013-05-11 07:57:43 AM  
Whole Wheat - seriously?  You have been here since '04 and didn't know about the filter?  THAT made my damn day good sir, thank you!
 
2013-05-11 08:00:32 AM  
I live in Virginia. Should I be upset about this and go piss on his grave?  They could have buried Bin Laden in my backyard and I wouldn't have cared. Don't most religions even believe that once you die, your soul is no longer connected with the body?  That the body is an "empty shell"?
 
2013-05-11 08:02:33 AM  
The administration has a vested interest in letting this guy go, so it wouldn't surprise me if nobody has seen him dead.  Sure there's a coroner's report but that could be fabricated easily and the last person to allegedly see him alive is Dzhokhar and he has a lot of incentive to tell the official side of the story.

Nice shell game with where he's actually buried.  It wouldn't surprise me if he's on a plane back to Chechnya with a "job well done" briefcase full of cash.
 
2013-05-11 08:03:08 AM  

doglover: gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse?

No, they just don't want to give him a proper burial. Nor should they. He doesn't deserve a proper burial. Huck his ashes into a bacon factory's dumpster and be done with him.


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2013-05-11 08:04:15 AM  

doglover: gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse?

No, they just don't want to give him a proper burial. Nor should they. He doesn't deserve a proper burial. Huck his ashes into a bacon factory's dumpster and be done with him.


Let it go, you will live longer.
 
2013-05-11 08:07:48 AM  
My fellow massholes disappointed me on this - I won't say he should of been buried in the Granary Burying Ground, but they should of just found a spot and been done with it.  The people protesting the funeral home in Worcester for just doing their job are pretty pathetic.

Getting so upset about where someone turns into compost gives them more power then they deserve.  A quiet burial in some random western mass graveyard would of been fine.

Unrelated but the other thing that bothered me - I'm disappointed that we just handed all this over to the Feds without a peep.  We have laws on the books for this, the crimes happened in MA, he was caught by the BPD, they should of at least fought about trying to prosecute the surviving guy in MA courts.  The guy isn't Lex Luthor - just prosecute him, throw him in jail and be done with it.

We are better than this Massholes
 
2013-05-11 08:09:29 AM  
If you think that the type of people who would come to desecrate his grave would stop at one (whether Muslim or Christian) you are kidding yourself.
 
2013-05-11 08:10:14 AM  
I'm sure he's giving a shiat...
 
2013-05-11 08:20:30 AM  
Feel bad for the folks whose beloved grandma is now sharing a final resting place with Captain Terrortard Steroidpants. Sure they are not amused.
 
2013-05-11 08:27:55 AM  
he's dead, stop giving him power.

Monitor the site
  1) those who come to desecrate: Arrest
  2) those who come to praise his deeds: Put on the "List"

I think we'll see more of #1
 
2013-05-11 08:28:22 AM  

robohobo: hardinparamedic: Should have donated his body to medical research. Problem solved

Should have tossed his body in a hog pen.


You can't eat pigs that have eaten a human being.


In the end, who cares? Lots of people who have committed awful atrocities are buried in some graveyard or other. Why the fuss now?Where's Tim Mcveigh? Or like someone said, the guy who shot up sandy Hook?If they're dead...who cares.

Once someone is dead they can't harm anyone.
 
2013-05-11 08:29:33 AM  

Slappy McLongstockings: Does anyone know where they bury the CEOs of energy companies and the like that kill many more children by ordering the poisoning of land and water for profit? or the CEOs of apparel companies who intentionally out-source work to countries who do not really care if 1000 people die?

One might argue the only decent people on this planet are ones unborn.


oh_you.jpg
 
2013-05-11 08:34:04 AM  

violentsalvation: 72 of them.


Damn you! :)
 
2013-05-11 08:36:03 AM  
And that is my hometown.


Weird sh*t.
 
2013-05-11 08:36:12 AM  

Slam Bradley: My fellow massholes disappointed me on this - I won't say he should of been buried in the Granary Burying Ground, but they should of just found a spot and been done with it.  The people protesting the funeral home in Worcester for just doing their job are pretty pathetic.

Getting so upset about where someone turns into compost gives them more power then they deserve.  A quiet burial in some random western mass graveyard would of been fine.

Unrelated but the other thing that bothered me - I'm disappointed that we just handed all this over to the Feds without a peep.  We have laws on the books for this, the crimes happened in MA, he was caught by the BPD, they should of at least fought about trying to prosecute the surviving guy in MA courts.  The guy isn't Lex Luthor - just prosecute him, throw him in jail and be done with it.

We are better than this Massholes


Agree on the burial, but as to the feds, our local guys may not have had much choice, legally speaking.  And, they may not have even wanted to fight it; the feds have the trump card of the death penalty.  I'm opposed to it, but it's a pretty big hammer for getting someone to plead guilty...and possibly roll over on any terror-buddies remaining in his network (if any...I think they were probably basically a pair of knuckleheads, but I'm fine with the feds investigating the crap out of anyone they ever exchanged email with.)

Plus, the state can still step in if the feds drop the ball somehow on prosecution.
 
2013-05-11 08:39:35 AM  
"But those actions, we're not to be judges of that," he said. "That's between him and God."

FTFA - sums up all we need to know about these peoples' mentality.
 
2013-05-11 08:41:30 AM  

Loneman1: Whole Wheat - seriously?  You have been here since '04 and didn't know about the filter?  THAT made my damn day good sir, thank you!


Because I think there is no bigger attention whore than someone who types "Boobies" in the Boobies. Today is the first day I came across it, when I was legitimately referring to the Boobies.
 
2013-05-11 08:41:56 AM  
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2013-05-11 08:47:19 AM  
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2013-05-11 08:48:47 AM  

robohobo: Al-Barzakh Cemetery,  in Doswell, Virginia.

Have at it, VA farkers.


What was buried was the container.  The person is hopefully rotting in hell.. The burial site is about 1/2 hour away from here.. and I have no problems with that, only with those that won't let it go.... need the required quote now.. " He,s dead, Jim "...
 
xcv
2013-05-11 09:01:04 AM  

octopied: robohobo: hardinparamedic: Should have donated his body to medical research. Problem solved

Should have tossed his body in a hog pen.

You can't eat pigs that have eaten a human being.


In the end, who cares? Lots of people who have committed awful atrocities are buried in some graveyard or other. Why the fuss now?Where's Tim Mcveigh? Or like someone said, the guy who shot up sandy Hook?If they're dead...who cares.

Once someone is dead they can't harm anyone.


McVeigh was cremated IIRC.

I think it's normal for people from a Christian background to be anxious about the bomber's burial site becoming a shrine for Islamists and an inspiring rallying point for other jihdaists in America, but I'm pretty sure that venerating grave-sites is explicitly forbidden by the Wahhabi ideology and fundamentalist Muslims aren't going to start making pilgrimages to Virginia any time soon.
 
2013-05-11 09:03:20 AM  
While those consumed with passion and hatred, or the very young, made a big deal out of his burial place, I sorta think no matter where he's buried that in six months or so no one will care. Far worse people throughout history have had graves that attracted followers or haters for a short time, but even after ten short years most people have moved on and the gravesite is as ignored as all the rest.
 
2013-05-11 09:04:08 AM  

o5iiawah: The administration has a vested interest in letting this guy go, so it wouldn't surprise me if nobody has seen him dead.  Sure there's a coroner's report but that could be fabricated easily and the last person to allegedly see him alive is Dzhokhar and he has a lot of incentive to tell the official side of the story.

Nice shell game with where he's actually buried.  It wouldn't surprise me if he's on a plane back to Chechnya with a "job well done" briefcase full of cash.


What the high-pitched fark with a question mark are you on about?
 
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