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(Boston Globe)   Boston Marathon bomber to spend eternity surrounded by Virginians   (bostonglobe.com) divider line 190
    More: Followup, Boston Marathon, Virginians, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, Cuccinelli, Islamic Funeral  
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2013-05-10 09:04:00 PM  
What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse? He's going to end up in the ground, it's just a question of where.

It's not like you're hurting his feelings.
 
2013-05-10 10:40:45 PM  
72 of them.
 
2013-05-10 10:53:02 PM  

gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse?


No, they just don't want to give him a proper burial. Nor should they. He doesn't deserve a proper burial. Huck his ashes into a bacon factory's dumpster and be done with him.
 
2013-05-10 11:57:30 PM  
Just like John Adams on a list of US Presidents
 
FNG [TotalFark]
2013-05-11 01:22:09 AM  
Where's the WBC?
 
2013-05-11 01:33:55 AM  
There is a lesson to be learned here.

DON'T die as a virgin.
There are terrorists up there just waiting to have their way with you.
 
2013-05-11 01:38:12 AM  
Most of the rejection was from fear of troublemakers, a reasonable assumption.
 
2013-05-11 02:06:25 AM  
Headline should have been "... 72 virginians (at least)".

I'm not angry... I'm just disappointed.

hehehehe
 
2013-05-11 02:06:29 AM  

doglover: gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse?

No, they just don't want to give him a proper burial. Nor should they. He doesn't deserve a proper burial. Huck his ashes into a bacon factory's dumpster and be done with him.


And what would that accomplish? He's dead, all you're doing is burying some rotting meat.  We're the civil ones here.
 
2013-05-11 03:02:39 AM  

snuff3r: And what would that accomplish?


You don't have to be nice to be civilized. The dude blew up an 8 year old. He's garbage. Let's toss him away like the garbage he is.

You want a burial a decent person would get? Die a decent person.
 
2013-05-11 04:24:48 AM  

doglover: snuff3r: And what would that accomplish?

You don't have to be nice to be civilized. The dude blew up an 8 year old. He's garbage. Let's toss him away like the garbage he is.

You want a burial a decent person would get? Die a decent person.


I understand the sentiment, i have an 8 year old myself, just seems redundant to be upset about his burial. He will be remembered a monster and that will never change.  Personally, he should been cremated or simply buried at sea. I can't imagine much grief being assuaged through wasting your time worrying about the craphead's body. Healing and moving on is complicated enough.

But meh, everyone deals with tragedy in their own way ;p
 
2013-05-11 04:39:14 AM  

snuff3r: just seems redundant to be upset about his burial


It's not about his burial per se, it's about people who do care doing shiat at the grave site.

I personally don't care. But I don't care so much it's a non-issue. Burn him up to bones, toss the bones in a landfill, and let's move on.
 
2013-05-11 06:09:10 AM  
Should have donated his body to medical research. Problem solved
 
2013-05-11 06:10:16 AM  

snuff3r: doglover: gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse?

No, they just don't want to give him a proper burial. Nor should they. He doesn't deserve a proper burial. Huck his ashes into a bacon factory's dumpster and be done with him.

And what would that accomplish? He's dead, all you're doing is burying some rotting meat.  We're the civil ones here.


Same reason why his brother has a good chance of getting the death penalty. Humans crave revenge, no matter how irrational.
 
2013-05-11 06:14:17 AM  

hardinparamedic: Should have donated his body to medical research. Problem solved


Should have tossed his body in a hog pen.
 
2013-05-11 06:17:00 AM  
Does anyone know where they bury the CEOs of energy companies and the like that kill many more children by ordering the poisoning of land and water for profit? or the CEOs of apparel companies who intentionally out-source work to countries who do not really care if 1000 people die?

One might argue the only decent people on this planet are ones unborn.
 
2013-05-11 06:18:55 AM  
I hope they dumped a couple of truckloads of concrete on the grave.

/where was the Sandy Hook shooter buried? No one seemed to make a big deal about it
//How about Aurora?
 
2013-05-11 06:21:56 AM  
I am not a person who believes that people are entitled to very much just for existing, but for the body to be properly disposed of does make my list. Not so much because of anything about the deceased, but because it's a "what you are in the dark" moment for ourselves and our society. There are not many cases where a person can want something but never know if they got it, and I think it's good for the public mental health to routinely carry one of those out.

That said, it's worth noting that his parents wanted him to be buried in Russia, and he seems to have expressed no particular wishes himself, so he should have been buried there. The person who found him a plot doubtless meant well, but she went against the wishes of his family.
 
2013-05-11 06:22:16 AM  
Slappy McLongstockings:

One might argue the only decent people on this planet are ones unborn.

The ones that get aborted?
 
2013-05-11 06:22:24 AM  
What was the point of all the fuss about keeping his burial spot secret, then disclosing the location?

Even calling it "an Islamic cemetery in central Virginia" (as I heard the network newsbots read it) is really narrowing it down. How many Islamic cemeteries could there possibly be in that part of the country? It's like saying he's buried near a seafood restaurant in the Oklahoma panhandle.

Whitey Bulger is disappoint that nobody in Massachusetts knows of any discreet places to dump a body.
 
2013-05-11 06:25:04 AM  

EvilEgg: //How about Aurora?


He's still alive.
 
2013-05-11 06:26:50 AM  
People that have done much worse than he did are also buried in various cemeteries around the country. Lets dig them all up! May we take them to Hawaii and throw them all in a volcano or something.

News Flash: He's dead. He's no longer the "Boston Marathon bomber". He's a sac of rotting skin. Worm food, if you will. Let it go and move on to the next step with the one that can actually be punished.
 
2013-05-11 06:26:56 AM  
Al-Barzakh Cemetery,  in Doswell, Virginia.

Have at it, VA farkers.
 
2013-05-11 06:29:40 AM  

Gulper Eel: Even calling it "an Islamic cemetery in central Virginia" (as I heard the network newsbots read it) is really narrowing it down.


NPR went further: they said it's in Doswell. I think they even gave the name of the cemetery, though I don't remember it off the top of my head.
 
2013-05-11 06:29:56 AM  

EvilEgg: //How about Aurora?


And where did they bury the survivors?
 
2013-05-11 06:30:16 AM  
...aaaaand ninja'd.
 
2013-05-11 06:41:02 AM  
They should have brought Tsarnaev's body to Boston and hung it from the lamp post, so he would have seen what it felt like
 
2013-05-11 06:41:21 AM  
Times like these require remedial reading about the golden rule and its reverse the dumbass rule.
If you don't want him to be buried then that says you would rather have your own corpse dumped along the side of the road when you die for the buzzards to eat.
 
2013-05-11 06:44:08 AM  
Why bury him in a Muslim cemetery? If people continue to say the radical Muslims are not true Muslims, then it doesn't make much sense to give them ceremonial Muslim burials. Bin Laden should have just been tossed overboard.
 
2013-05-11 06:44:32 AM  

robohobo: Al-Barzakh Cemetery,  in Doswell, Virginia.

Have at it, VA farkers.



Says the Internet tough guy in brownbackistan.

Go commit your own crimes.
 
2013-05-11 06:47:28 AM  

Gulper Eel: What was the point of all the fuss about keeping his burial spot secret, then disclosing the location?


This. That was the dumbest possible move. The people who are most likely to suffer the ramifications are the families of everyone else buried in that plot, because any of the brilliant minds that come to do shiat to Tsarnaev's grave aren't likely to stop there.

It would be nice to see us Americans take the high road and just leave him in the ground to return to nature, unremarked, but I may as well be wishing for unicorns and rainbows.
 
2013-05-11 06:49:43 AM  

rev. dave: Times like these require remedial reading about the golden rule



The main problem here is wherever his ass is planted it WILL be vandalized repeatedly.

So, it's unfair to put him near places where people will be bringing innocent corpses to bury because they'll have to step over the vandals' handiwork to get to their legit ceremony.

Hence we should have just lost the body, like with Bin Laden.
 
2013-05-11 06:51:42 AM  

chewielouie: Why bury him in a Muslim cemetery? If people continue to say the radical Muslims are not true Muslims, then it doesn't make much sense to give them ceremonial Muslim burials. Bin Laden should have just been tossed overboard.


Is that a relative of the "no true scotsman" argument?
 
2013-05-11 06:53:33 AM  
FTA: "There were also four unmarked plots, one of which presumably contained Tsarnaev's body."

I'm guessing his is the one next to Arch Stanton's. At least that's what Bill Carson told me.
 
2013-05-11 06:54:56 AM  

thisone: chewielouie: Why bury him in a Muslim cemetery? If people continue to say the radical Muslims are not true Muslims, then it doesn't make much sense to give them ceremonial Muslim burials. Bin Laden should have just been tossed overboard.

Is that a relative of the "no true scotsman" argument?


nvm found the caveat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman#Examples
 
2013-05-11 06:56:09 AM  
Burial at sea should become a de facto policy of disposing of terrorist bodies.
 (After a proper legal review ....)
This eliminates the cemetery plot becoming a future shrine for other would be followers.

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

I hear that.
encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-05-11 06:56:43 AM  
+1 subby. The perfect headline.
 
2013-05-11 06:56:59 AM  

thisone: chewielouie: Why bury him in a Muslim cemetery? If people continue to say the radical Muslims are not true Muslims, then it doesn't make much sense to give them ceremonial Muslim burials. Bin Laden should have just been tossed overboard.

Is that a relative of the "no true scotsman" argument?


Not a true one.
 
2013-05-11 06:57:06 AM  
So he really is in hell.
 
2013-05-11 06:57:58 AM  

doglover: gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse?

No, they just don't want to give him a proper burial. Nor should they. He doesn't deserve a proper burial. Huck his ashes into a bacon factory's dumpster and be done with him.


Wrong. Are you scared of a dead body? Do you think he cares if you piss on his corpse?

Or are you going to behave like a scared child?
 
2013-05-11 06:58:04 AM  

chewielouie: Why bury him in a Muslim cemetery?


Because his body sat in a funeral home for more than a week, which was picketed every day by people who thought punishing a business for doing it's job and disrupting other people's funerals and moments of grief was far less savage than blowing up an 8 year old and was therefore okay, until someone who ran a Muslim cemetery read about it and stepped in.

It's just a guess, but I'm betting his Uncle spent that week trying to send the body to Russia and being told by various Russian officials to fark off and deal with it himself.
 
2013-05-11 06:59:22 AM  

gaslight: What do people expect that his urn will be passed from person to person forever like some curse? He's going to end up in the ground, it's just a question of where.

It's not like you're hurting his feelings.


What I came to say, in the Boobies.

Done.
 
2013-05-11 07:02:18 AM  

Slappy McLongstockings: Does anyone know where they bury the CEOs of energy companies and the like that kill many more children by ordering the poisoning of land and water for profit? or the CEOs of apparel companies who intentionally out-source work to countries who do not really care if 1000 people die?

One might argue the only decent people on this planet are ones unborn.


This. Not to mention, we would need to dig up *every* murderer and rapist and throw them in a landfill. Unless this is different...because TERROR? 2003 all over again.
 
2013-05-11 07:03:07 AM  

doglover: snuff3r: just seems redundant to be upset about his burial

It's not about his burial per se, it's about people who do care doing shiat at the grave site.

I personally don't care. But I don't care so much it's a non-issue. Burn him up to bones, toss the bones in a landfill, and let's move on.


That's not what you were originally advocating. Which is good as you are headed in the right direction.

The only thing that desecrating a corpse proves is that terrorist attacks will provoke a excessive response, which is exactly the point of terrorism.
 
2013-05-11 07:03:11 AM  
WTF am I writing? Fark you autocorrect!

All done in the Boobies (some how converted to boobies).
 
2013-05-11 07:03:28 AM  

kim jong-un: Do you think he cares if you piss on his corpse?


No, but the owners of the cemetery and the families of the people buried next to him will care when people all over come and vandalize the place over and over again.

Parisians aren't thrilled about what happened at Jim Morrison's grave, and people liked him. This guy's body will get much worse treatment, and who has to pay to clean that up? If you said the owners of the place he's stuck, you win the prize.

Hence just dispose of him completely. No muss, no fuss. Can't desecrate what isn't interred there.
 
2013-05-11 07:04:16 AM  

Whole Wheat: WTF am I writing? Fark you autocorrect!

All done in the Boobies (some how converted to boobies).


Twice?

ALL DONE IN THE Boobies!!!!
 
2013-05-11 07:06:18 AM  
Boobies.
 
2013-05-11 07:07:05 AM  
I give up.
 
2013-05-11 07:09:33 AM  
Whole Wheat I am laughing so hard right now.
 
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