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2013-05-11 10:13:17 AM  

luidprand: Mugato: Isn't community college 2 years? Oh well, MASH got 11 years out of a 3 year war.

So what about Hannibal??

A lot of community colleges offer four year degrees. Not only is it cheaper for the students, it gives a better quality degree than your average diploma mill and many other local private schools. They have also been getting strong support from the government to do just that, starting in the Bush administration and continuing on into Obama's. Many community college students also work or parent full time, and do not take full loads.

Also, it seems that, excepting Jeff, they have been more concerned with keeping the study group together than aggressively pursuing graduation.


Also,

Seriously? Is that what people are concerned about? Seasons vs reality?
 
2013-05-11 10:17:08 AM  

Carth: rugman11: Mugato: So what about Hannibal??

Brian Fuller gave an interview yesterday and said that NBC told him they wouldn't make a decision this week.  The ratings probably shouldn't get it renewed, but it's an international co-production, which means it's a little cheaper than other shows and it might just come down to how cheaply NBC can get it.  My guess is that if it comes back it will be as late-April filler or a summer show again.

Hannibal seem really weird to me. the show is good enough but it is strange to see that level of violence in a show but mysteriously no one swears or farks.


It's more gory than violent. For the most part they just show the bodies after they were killed/mutilated. Still, I can't imagine why NBC would put a show like that along side The Golden Girls or Leno or whatever other lame ass shows they run.
 
2013-05-11 10:36:08 AM  

Mugato: Carth: rugman11: Mugato: So what about Hannibal??

Brian Fuller gave an interview yesterday and said that NBC told him they wouldn't make a decision this week.  The ratings probably shouldn't get it renewed, but it's an international co-production, which means it's a little cheaper than other shows and it might just come down to how cheaply NBC can get it.  My guess is that if it comes back it will be as late-April filler or a summer show again.

Hannibal seem really weird to me. the show is good enough but it is strange to see that level of violence in a show but mysteriously no one swears or farks.

It's more gory than violent. For the most part they just show the bodies after they were killed/mutilated. Still, I can't imagine why NBC would put a show like that along side The Golden Girls or Leno or whatever other lame ass shows they run.


It's gotten so bad that some NBC affiliates won't even air it anymore.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=1205&sid=24990330

/This is the same NBC affiliate that has preempted other NBC shows for more trivial reasons
 
2013-05-11 10:38:33 AM  

Mugato: Carth: rugman11: Mugato: So what about Hannibal??

Brian Fuller gave an interview yesterday and said that NBC told him they wouldn't make a decision this week.  The ratings probably shouldn't get it renewed, but it's an international co-production, which means it's a little cheaper than other shows and it might just come down to how cheaply NBC can get it.  My guess is that if it comes back it will be as late-April filler or a summer show again.

Hannibal seem really weird to me. the show is good enough but it is strange to see that level of violence in a show but mysteriously no one swears or farks.

It's more gory than violent. For the most part they just show the bodies after they were killed/mutilated. Still, I can't imagine why NBC would put a show like that along side The Golden Girls or Leno or whatever other lame ass shows they run.


The Golden Girls?!! That made me larf for the sheer randomness of the reference.
 
2013-05-11 10:42:02 AM  

coco ebert: The Golden Girls?!! That made me larf for the sheer randomness of the reference.


I'm sorry, Sex and the City. I get those confused.
 
2013-05-11 10:48:44 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Great news.  I got the impression that those working on the show didn't even expect to get a 5th season - the season 4 finale seemed designed to effectively wrap things up just in case it ended up being a series finale.


Now we have to worry about telegoths taking over the campus.

/bonus: leggy dead Marines in the shower
 
2013-05-11 11:03:17 AM  

FeedTheCollapse: marcre3363: As bad as "The Office" has been, the last few episodes have turned around to where they're fun again (minus the Andy storyline's). But Community has just been in a downward spiral.

I would've agreed with you on Community until the past few episodes. Granted, that's not a great batting score, but I thought the last half of the season or so were actually rather good. The last episode was probably the only decent season finale the show has ever had.

that said, I'm somewhat in the "cancel it" camp as I'm not entirely sure where they can go with the show.


The plan, according to Harmon, was that the show would eventually leave the community college and just be about the community of people on the show. So Jeff graduating early while the rest of the study group stays in school is not a bad way to start that transition.

Also, although I agree with most of the negative views of this season you have to keep in mind everything they just went through. Harmon gets fired and a lot of creative leaves with him, their season is shortened then moved so the timing of the episodes makes no sense, Chevy quits, and it seemed like most people just assumed this would be their last season. That doesn't excuse the bad writing but I think it's understandable. I'd probably feel like phoning it in too if I had no direction and assumed I was getting fired soon.

There were good moments this season they were just a lot less common then in previous seasons. Pierce's barbershop and Bitta's Sadie Hawkins dance were both sweet character moments even if they weren't all that funny. My favorite episode of the season was the Freaky Friday one and Jim Rash got the writing credit for that one. So I think they have the potential to at least be better than they were this season if not quite as brilliant as the first two seasons.
 
2013-05-11 11:04:20 AM  

Mugato: Carth: rugman11: Mugato: So what about Hannibal??

Brian Fuller gave an interview yesterday and said that NBC told him they wouldn't make a decision this week.  The ratings probably shouldn't get it renewed, but it's an international co-production, which means it's a little cheaper than other shows and it might just come down to how cheaply NBC can get it.  My guess is that if it comes back it will be as late-April filler or a summer show again.

Hannibal seem really weird to me. the show is good enough but it is strange to see that level of violence in a show but mysteriously no one swears or farks.

It's more gory than violent. For the most part they just show the bodies after they were killed/mutilated. Still, I can't imagine why NBC would put a show like that along side The Golden Girls or Leno or whatever other lame ass shows they run.


I honestly found the breaking down of the heart and lungs for cooking to be worse than any shots of the actual victims.
 
2013-05-11 11:13:01 AM  
Now that they have a fifth season, the pressure on NBC to give them a sixth season--and a movie--will be immense.

In fact,  Community fans being what they are, they'd probably raise holy hell if NBC tried to give them a  seventh season.

/yes, I'm one of them
 
2013-05-11 11:15:10 AM  

FeedTheCollapse: Jeff comes back as a teacher at Greendale at some point in the season. That's my prediction.

well, Jeff did mention that he would stop by still.


He also said he ended with a major in "education"
 
2013-05-11 11:27:14 AM  

Serial: FeedTheCollapse: Jeff comes back as a teacher at Greendale at some point in the season. That's my prediction.

well, Jeff did mention that he would stop by still.

He also said he ended with a major in "education"


which makes him way over qualified to teach at greendale... but i guess the degree is from greendale
 
2013-05-11 11:29:12 AM  

Mugato: So what about Hannibal??


I believe NBC's fall line-up is supposed to be announced on Sunday; though that doesn't necessarily mean Hannibal will be canceled or renewed unless they explicitly state otherwise.

odinsposse: So I think they have the potential to at least be better than they were this season if not quite as brilliant as the first two seasons.



that's kind of my take as well. The last few episodes showed that something could be done with the series still*. Frankly, I think part of the problem is that the last season left a few plots that just weren't very interesting and were likely only there to give the series some kind of closure in case it was canceled (Troy/britta and Jeff's father being the most obvious), so the current showrunners had to deal with those plots.


*though I'm somewhat skeptical that the show would work if they expanded it outside of Greendale, like you brought up with Harmon's original idea.
 
2013-05-11 11:35:29 AM  
The only good thing aboutCommunity this season was Allison Brie.  The show has sucked since they booted Harmon.  I used to love this show, but this news made me sad.
 
2013-05-11 11:43:37 AM  

Mugato: Isn't community college 2 years? Oh well, MASH got 11 years out of a 3 year war.

So what about Hannibal??


"Everyone's always saying that! The average community college student attends school five to seven years. Many offer four year degrees!"

Seriously, I'm thrilled that it was renewed. I will concede that this season was by far the weakest, and there were a few episodes/storylines that fell flat, but they did a pretty damn good job considering the insane amount of changes and drama surrounding this season. I think, despite the crazy amount of vitriol from a lot of the fan base about this season, once it's been viewed and processed again I don't think the differences between this season and the previous 3 will be quite as glaring (and I think a lot of fans REALLY got themselves into a wad after the firing of Harmon and ruined any possible enjoyment for themselves - I have several friends who just became fans who marathoned the whole series including much of season 4 without knowing any of the behind the scenes drama and they found it to be mostly consistent).

Good riddance to Chevy. I hold him responsible for a large portion of the bullshiat (indirectly for Harmon's shiatcanning, directly for making everyone write/act around his tantrums and rage quitting - seriously, gofarkyourself).

If Sony could somehow miraculously get Dan Harmon back on board I would be over the moon but I'll take these characters even without Harmon at the helm (especially if they could get the delightful Jim Rash to be a regular on the writing staff - the ep he wrote this season was the best).

/I guess I just like liking things...
 
2013-05-11 11:57:53 AM  

hundreddollarman: Alison-Brie-gif-wise, this past season was... solid.

Annie stares at someone (not you) longingly

Evil Annie is the best Annie

But even better news is that "Castle" got picked up for a sixth season (and a movie???). So more Stana Katic.

[i70.photobucket.com image 800x533]

[i70.photobucket.com image 532x800]


Don't forget the other good looking female on Castle.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-11 11:59:21 AM  

Brittabot: Good riddance to Chevy. I hold him responsible for a large portion of the bullshiat (indirectly for Harmon's shiatcanning, directly for making everyone write/act around his tantrums and rage quitting - seriously, gofarkyourself).


No Chevy, No Community. The show would have never been signed, or gained an audience without a name attached to it.
 
2013-05-11 12:09:08 PM  

Hebalo: Brittabot: Good riddance to Chevy. I hold him responsible for a large portion of the bullshiat (indirectly for Harmon's shiatcanning, directly for making everyone write/act around his tantrums and rage quitting - seriously, gofarkyourself).

No Chevy, No Community. The show would have never been signed, or gained an audience without a name attached to it.


Oh I'm totally aware of that. And I'm not saying he should never have been on the show in the first place.

But that doesn't change the fact that he's a childish prick who caused a lot of problems for the show in the past couple of years.

Therefore, I stand by my original comment of good riddance.
 
2013-05-11 12:17:04 PM  

luidprand: Mugato: Isn't community college 2 years? Oh well, MASH got 11 years out of a 3 year war.

So what about Hannibal??

A lot of community colleges offer four year degrees. Not only is it cheaper for the students, it gives a better quality degree than your average diploma mill and many other local private schools. They have also been getting strong support from the government to do just that, starting in the Bush administration and continuing on into Obama's. Many community college students also work or parent full time, and do not take full loads.

Also, it seems that, excepting Jeff, they have been more concerned with keeping the study group together than aggressively pursuing graduation.


Even before the community college in my hometown started offering 4 year degrees, it was pretty much par for the course for the over-privileged slackers to spend 3 or 4 years there because they didn't want to grow up. They'd then transfer to the 4 year state school an hour away and commute while sponging off their rich parents, then once they finally graduated, commute to the very expensive 4th tier law school (while still living with their rich parents), come back and go to work for daddy's or daddy's friend's firm.

So in that way, Community felt very realistic.
 
2013-05-11 12:18:41 PM  

marcre3363: I loved that show. There was unmatched brilliance in a number of the plotlines.

This season? Meh. I've watched and I try to care. But it's gone so far off the rails that it's hard to care.Every episode is worst than the previous.

As bad as "The Office" has been, the last few episodes have turned around to where they're fun again (minus the Andy storyline's). But Community has just been in a downward spiral.

Here's to hoping they can recapture some of the previous magic.


You can tell Harmon's gone. He made the show what it was, and they broke it by pushing him out.

Chevy Chase sucks.

I'll still watch for Alison Brie's bangs.
 
2013-05-11 12:18:53 PM  

evulc: I'll GLADLY take Megan Ganz's or Jim Rash's version of Community any day over Harmon's mean spirited bile.


Well, considering Ganz is writing for Modern Family now, it looks like we'll be getting the Jim Rash version
 
2013-05-11 12:19:23 PM  
Chevy was one of the best elements of the show, so it'll never be the same in that regard. Still, glad to know it's continuing.

By the way, Britta > Annie. Yeah, I said it.
 
2013-05-11 12:25:51 PM  

Wayne 985: Chevy was one of the best elements of the show, so it'll never be the same in that regard. Still, glad to know it's continuing.

By the way, Britta > Annie. Yeah, I said it.


There'll need to be a jello wrestling episode to settle that debate.
 
2013-05-11 12:32:52 PM  

NotEric: I'm sad to see Vegas cancelled. Only new show I liked this season after realizing The Following isn't very good.


Vegas wasn't groundbreaking, but it was fairly entertaining, and I can always watch Chiklis play a dirtball after The Shield.

It's tough for a network show that doesn't immediately gain a sizeable following these days.  Something like Justified that had its numbers significantly drop in season 1 (some episodes dropping below a 2 rating) probably would have been cancelled, but on FX it was renewed and got season 2, one of the best seasons of TV I've ever seen period, and some damn good stuff in seasons 3 and 4.  You'd think NBC would take the opportunity of falling behind as the chance to try to build on critically acclaimed shows that don't necessarily have huge numbers right away.  Give them a chance to grow an audience, let critical acclaim keep coming, and eventually you get rebranded as the home of quality shows.  Instead they try to copy successful stuff from other networks that the other networks do better, or bring back old stars from successful NBC shows, still chasing that Must See TV dragon.  They should be holding on to shows like Awake rather than cancelling them in favor of more dreck to throw at us.  There's barely anything on the channel I watch anymore besides Parks & Rec, and now I'm hesitant to get into anything serialized on there because in all likelihood it will get cancelled before it even really gets going.
 
2013-05-11 12:42:11 PM  

rustypdx: Wayne 985: Chevy was one of the best elements of the show, so it'll never be the same in that regard. Still, glad to know it's continuing.

By the way, Britta > Annie. Yeah, I said it.

There'll need to be a jello wrestling episode to settle that debate.


Close enough
 
2013-05-11 12:48:14 PM  

RockofAges: Parks and Rec blows that show out of the water. In fact, Parks and Rec is funnier than The Office (any version). It's an ensemble show where everyone is a character actor.


I like Parks and Rec, but I get the feeling that when it does start to go downhill, it will really crash and burn as the plots to the show are generally non-existent.
 
2013-05-11 12:51:15 PM  
Y'all are judging a painting based on what color the wall behind it is.

There were some good bits in season 4 and some bad bits in the earlier seasons; we can't credit Dan Harmon for everything positive and blame his replacements for everything else.
 
2013-05-11 01:08:55 PM  
m.uploadedit.com
 
2013-05-11 01:18:53 PM  

eddievercetti: hundreddollarman: Alison-Brie-gif-wise, this past season was... solid.

Annie stares at someone (not you) longingly

Evil Annie is the best Annie

But even better news is that "Castle" got picked up for a sixth season (and a movie???). So more Stana Katic.

[i70.photobucket.com image 800x533]

[i70.photobucket.com image 532x800]

Don't forget the other good looking female on Castle.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 624x351]


...no, no, no, that's not how you troll. You're supposed to put a picture of Susan Sullivan there.
 
2013-05-11 01:23:18 PM  

poot_rootbeer: Y'all are judging a painting based on what color the wall behind it is.

There were some good bits in season 4 and some bad bits in the earlier seasons; we can't credit Dan Harmon for everything positive and blame his replacements for everything else.


I'd say the showrunner is a rather important figure on a show, though.

that said, I do think some of the criticism about this season could easily be leveled at season 3 as well.
 
2013-05-11 01:39:10 PM  
There are some good episodes this season.  I just watched the "Freaky Friday" one and thought it was funny and touching.
 
2013-05-11 01:46:44 PM  
Eh, season 4 was okay. The highs weren't as high, the lows were lower, but the middles were a lot better than previously. And I blame Chevy Chase much more than Dan Harmon's absence. They really should have just dumped Chevy and stuck Fred Willard in there. Much better/meta than trying to keep Chevy around. Also, Season 3 of the Cape made me laugh way more than it should have.
 
2013-05-11 01:50:18 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: that said, I do think some of the criticism about this season could easily be leveled at season 3 as well.


I don't know, I watched the first five or so episodes without knowing there were any behind-the-scenes changes and the show felt different. The wackiness and "meta" stuff felt forced, it was more concerned with getting a laugh quota even if it didn't suit the tone of the scene, background character's personalities seemed less defined, etc.

Learning that the show runner had been fired was a real "Oh, that explains it!" moment for me.
 
2013-05-11 01:51:22 PM  
 
2013-05-11 01:59:07 PM  
This season definitely got better as it went on. The production schedule (or lack of one) should be seen as the culprit IMO. The first few felt rushed and disjointed but I'm hopeful for next season.

Needs more Troy and abed, and maybe a little less dean
 
2013-05-11 02:11:47 PM  

Gunther: FeedTheCollapse: that said, I do think some of the criticism about this season could easily be leveled at season 3 as well.

I don't know, I watched the first five or so episodes without knowing there were any behind-the-scenes changes and the show felt different. The wackiness and "meta" stuff felt forced, it was more concerned with getting a laugh quota even if it didn't suit the tone of the scene, background character's personalities seemed less defined, etc.

Learning that the show runner had been fired was a real "Oh, that explains it!" moment for me.


I certainly don't disagree that this season was more than a bit flawed, I'm just referring to criticism about the show rehashing previous tropes, etc. could easily be applied to the previous season. Even with those flaws, I do think some of the more aggressive hate seems to stem solely from Harmon not being on board, but kind of ignores that the last season was pretty heavily flawed as well.
 
2013-05-11 02:14:09 PM  

luidprand: Mugato: Isn't community college 2 years? Oh well, MASH got 11 years out of a 3 year war.

So what about Hannibal??

A lot of community colleges offer four year degrees. Not only is it cheaper for the students, it gives a better quality degree than your average diploma mill and many other local private schools. They have also been getting strong support from the government to do just that, starting in the Bush administration and continuing on into Obama's. Many community college students also work or parent full time, and do not take full loads.

Also, it seems that, excepting Jeff, they have been more concerned with keeping the study group together than aggressively pursuing graduation.


One of our local community colleges, Bellevue Community College, upgraded itself to a full college a few years ago. It is actually a really good school for the money.
 
2013-05-11 02:28:23 PM  

Wayne 985: Chevy was one of the best elements of the show, so it'll never be the same in that regard. Still, glad to know it's continuing.

By the way, Britta > Annie. Yeah, I said it.


Is it liberating to reveal yourself as wrong on the internet?
 
2013-05-11 02:43:39 PM  
This season (more than previous ones) made the central flaw to the show more obvious:  The show cares more about being clever, offbeat, weird, meta, etc. than it cares about being entertaining.
 
2013-05-11 03:31:24 PM  

Wayne 985: Chevy was one of the best elements of the show, so it'll never be the same in that regard. Still, glad to know it's continuing.

By the way, Britta > Annie. Yeah, I said it.


Britta is hot, but I don't recall any monkeys named 'Britta's boobs'.
 
2013-05-11 04:54:48 PM  

thecpt: This season definitely got better as it went on. The production schedule (or lack of one) should be seen as the culprit IMO. The first few felt rushed and disjointed but I'm hopeful for next season.

Needs more Troy and abed, and maybe a little less dean


I love the Dean.

I'm glad that the English professor was dumped and the dean became a focus.

I'll admit I did not care for the dean at first, but goddeanit he grew on me.
 
2013-05-11 05:10:45 PM  
Some of my favorite Community jokes are from this season, so suck it haters.

dl.dropboxusercontent.com

/This better not awaken anything in me
 
2013-05-11 06:07:48 PM  

BullBearMS: Some of my favorite Community jokes are from this season, so suck it haters.



/This better not awaken anything in me


That was a great line :)
 
2013-05-11 06:18:01 PM  
www.halfwaydecent.com
 
2013-05-11 06:34:20 PM  
This season gave us the birth of Magnitude's catch phrase...

dl.dropboxusercontent.com

dl.dropboxusercontent.com

and it's short lived demise.

dl.dropboxusercontent.com

/Diggity do?
 
2013-05-11 07:01:11 PM  

BullBearMS: Some of my favorite Community jokes are from this season, so suck it haters.

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 720x404]

/This better not awaken anything in me


That joke's not from this season.

images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-05-11 07:35:04 PM  

Precision Boobery: BullBearMS: Some of my favorite Community jokes are from this season, so suck it haters.

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 720x404]

/This better not awaken anything in me

That joke's not from this season.

[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 850x557]


Ummm,not sure if serious...it's from like two episodes ago where Abed was connecting all their previous histories together. That is the lingerie Shirley bought her husband, but threw in a garbage can (where the dean found it) when she found out her husband was having an affair.
 
2013-05-11 08:44:08 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Ummm,not sure if serious...it's from like two episodes ago where

they tossed out more transparent fan service.  I'm aware.  This season's been loaded with it.  A lot of people are apparently mistaking it for fresh writing.

drake113: [www.halfwaydecent.com image 850x413]


That's a good example because it combines lazy catch-phrase repeating with the general lack of subtlety endemic to this season (though someone still had to put a big yellow box around it as if it weren't obvious enough).
 
2013-05-11 10:55:42 PM  

Hebalo: Brittabot: Good riddance to Chevy. I hold him responsible for a large portion of the bullshiat (indirectly for Harmon's shiatcanning, directly for making everyone write/act around his tantrums and rage quitting - seriously, gofarkyourself).

No Chevy, No Community. The show would have never been signed, or gained an audience without a name attached to it.


Psh, I started watching community for Joel McHale, not Chevy Chase. The sarcastic guy from the Soup vs. some old guy who hasn't done shiat in years?

"But I care so much about Chevy Chase and his character and his important contributions to the show!" said no one ever.

//only good episodes with Pierce are the barbershop and journey into Hawkthorne.
///mic drop
 
2013-05-11 11:51:23 PM  

Mr. Holmes: Hebalo: Brittabot: Good riddance to Chevy. I hold him responsible for a large portion of the bullshiat (indirectly for Harmon's shiatcanning, directly for making everyone write/act around his tantrums and rage quitting - seriously, gofarkyourself).

No Chevy, No Community. The show would have never been signed, or gained an audience without a name attached to it.

Psh, I started watching community for Joel McHale, not Chevy Chase. The sarcastic guy from the Soup vs. some old guy who hasn't done shiat in years?

"But I care so much about Chevy Chase and his character and his important contributions to the show!" said no one ever.

//only good episodes with Pierce are the barbershop and journey into Hawkthorne.
///mic drop


Did you forget this?
 
2013-05-11 11:54:04 PM  
The problem with community in season four is basically this: it never attempts to expand or grow the universe.

Harmon was fired for many reasons, but one of which was the studio execs didn't like that he wouldn't let the show settle into a grove. Most sitcoms by their 3rd season have found their formula. All the characters are static and the jokes are plug and play. However, under hamron's leadership, the goal was to always push the envolope and say "no, we already did that" which made it a lot harder on studio execs because it was harder to quantify what will or won't work. The show took risks that sometimes paid off and other times fell flat. But that is why we loved it.

Without Harmon and the new Studio lackies, they tried to out the show more on autopilot and settle into a formula. That was "safer" for execs but it made the show more bland and didn't ever let the show's universe expand.

Think about it- was there a single new recurring character added to their universe this year? Previous years added star burns, magnitude, Lenard, etc. But this year, nope.

All of the characters froze emotionally where they were back in season 2 even. No real growth or story arch. Remember in season 3 when abed got into set with the mob and Troy and abed started to grow apart a little? Or how Jeff learned that he loved the group more than the law? All of that thrown aside so the characters could be frozen back in the season 2 formula.

The new show runners seemed to think the reason people liked the show was because it spoofed Genres. But people liked the show because it dared to be different and used genre spoofing to make a point. To have heart.
But this season seemed to be more about "hey look, we know how to be self-referencial!" And "hey, this is what a genre does!" But never bothered to SAY anything worthwhile with those spoofs.

/end rant
 
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