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2013-05-10 01:07:40 PM  

NutWrench: I_Am_Weasel: As I recall when I was in school, it was referred to as "murder ball"

They called it, "smear the queer (with the ball)" when I was a kid. I have no idea why: none of us knew what a queer was.


See for us, "smear the queer" was basically "group + 1 rugby" - the entire group would try and tackle the person with the ball, until they gave up, and threw it up in the air, for everyone to try and get. You could also get tackled if you gave up too easily, or didn't try to get the free ball hard enough.

(northern MD, 1980s)
 
2013-05-10 01:07:53 PM  
Oh, crybabies. I got pegged right in the head with a dodgeball by a much larger and stronger classmate at point-plank rngee and\=
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Thank you senator, good to meet you as well. Say hello to your lovely wife for me.
 
2013-05-10 01:08:24 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Pocket Ninja: I_Am_Weasel: As I recall when I was in school, it was referred to as "murder ball"

Murder Ball was one variety of Dodge Ball, which (the way we played it) involved everybody trying to nail a person who was tagged "it." It was not usually officially sanctioned by the gym teachers, although I don't recall them ever stopping us from playing it during free time. There was also Prison Dodgeball (where team members were "taken prisoner" after being hit and could be freed to rejoin your team in what basically amounted to hostage exchanges); Pin Dodgeball (basic dodgeball with the addition of bowling that had to be protected by your team; if the pins were all knocked down, you lost, so the basic strategy was to stand your weakest players in front of the pins as human shields and do what you could to protect them from being nailed); Quad Dodge (a four-way dodgeball game where you were under threat from all sides); and many others. I loved them all.

My high school gym had an upper balcony area, and we played sniper dodgeball - one person from each team could walk the perimeter and target people, but could only get more balls if they were tossed up to them. The sniper could only get out if you hit them from the floor (which was one hell of a throw). Common strategy was to target the people who could toss the ball up and basically starve the sniper.


That sounds awesome.

We played medic ball. Each team had two medics that wore a mesh shirt. when you got hit, you would sit where you got hit. A medic could come over and drag you back behind the line and you were in the game again. So you would target their medics, because once you get both medics, no one can get back in. And in turn you would try to protect your medics.

it added some strategy.
 
2013-05-10 01:08:31 PM  

AngryPanda: This author is like my friend who says that even watching sports and enjoying it is unhealthy. Whatever, dude.

just a pussy.

FTFY
 
2013-05-10 01:08:49 PM  
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2013-05-10 01:08:54 PM  

Christian Bale: Hoban Washburne: You know, life is a little hard and a little scary at times.  If at 15 you can't handle the idea of someone throwing a soft rubber ball at you then you've got some toughening up to do.

I will say this though.  Athletes (as in currently enrolled in a sport) should not take gym.  There's a huge competitive gap between them and the general non-athlete student populace.  It hampers the athletes' experience and is unfair to the non-athletes.

Came here to say THIS. Take the athletes out of the equation and gym is fun for everyone remaining, or at least tolerable. And why should athletes out for a sport be in gym class? What a waste of time for them. It's a win/win situation for everyone if you exempt athletes, and it encourages kids to go out for a sport so they can get out of stupid gym class.


In my high school, we were only required to take PE freshman year and then after that it was optional Advanced PE.  Well it was mostly people from football, baseball, basketball, but a few kids that weren't on teams also.  We weren't allowed to play any sport that was one of the sanctioned team sports (would count as extra practice time) so it was a weight lifting class 3-4 days a week with a free day wednesday and friday.  We played dodgeball, floor hockey, and some other stuff I can't remember although I do remember we played some "made up" sports.  Oh, and our gym uniform was shorts and an APE shirt.  That's all black with purple letters.  I still have the shirt although it's on its last legs.

That class was awesome.

/AP student
 
2013-05-10 01:09:20 PM  
ponykiller I was the furthest thing from sporty when I was in school, but I liked playing nonsense things like flag football and kickball and yes, even the occasional dodgeball. Human interaction is a good thing.


Big shocker there.
 
2013-05-10 01:09:21 PM  

internut scholar: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Pocket Ninja: I_Am_Weasel: As I recall when I was in school, it was referred to as "murder ball"

Murder Ball was one variety of Dodge Ball, which (the way we played it) involved everybody trying to nail a person who was tagged "it." It was not usually officially sanctioned by the gym teachers, although I don't recall them ever stopping us from playing it during free time. There was also Prison Dodgeball (where team members were "taken prisoner" after being hit and could be freed to rejoin your team in what basically amounted to hostage exchanges); Pin Dodgeball (basic dodgeball with the addition of bowling that had to be protected by your team; if the pins were all knocked down, you lost, so the basic strategy was to stand your weakest players in front of the pins as human shields and do what you could to protect them from being nailed); Quad Dodge (a four-way dodgeball game where you were under threat from all sides); and many others. I loved them all.

My high school gym had an upper balcony area, and we played sniper dodgeball - one person from each team could walk the perimeter and target people, but could only get more balls if they were tossed up to them. The sniper could only get out if you hit them from the floor (which was one hell of a throw). Common strategy was to target the people who could toss the ball up and basically starve the sniper.

That sounds awesome.

We played medic ball. Each team had two medics that wore a mesh shirt. when you got hit, you would sit where you got hit. A medic could come over and drag you back behind the line and you were in the game again. So you would target their medics, because once you get both medics, no one can get back in. And in turn you would try to protect your medics.

it added some strategy.


And bonus war crimes!
 
2013-05-10 01:09:43 PM  
Dodgeball literally almost killed me (concussion on elementary school's asphalt, went home with headache, went to bed, school nurse called a couple of hours later saying to take me to an ER).

But dodgeball was never taught as a team sport. There were teams, but it was every person for himself and last man standing and was never intended to teach team participation.

But given PowerSlacker's earlier link, the author and Slate are all huge coonts.
 
2013-05-10 01:10:00 PM  
Lotta "back in my day" in this thread. You farkers are old. Get younger!
 
2013-05-10 01:10:03 PM  

Walker: I think Wallball is more sociopath. They made us stand against a brick wall and other kids would throw balls as hard as they could at us. Nowhere to run cause you're against a wall.


Wow, we did that to ourselves, but it was never a sanctioned activity. (I think we used racquet balls)
 
2013-05-10 01:10:04 PM  
Organized football is more sociopathic than dodgeball.

/rape all you want, but don't point to the sky bully
 
2013-05-10 01:10:34 PM  
Writing 1099 word long article takes the place of two 50-minute sessions with author's psychotherapist.
 
2013-05-10 01:10:35 PM  
It's cute when Slate articles try to look like real journalism.

My younger kid starts middle school next year, she would burn and loot if we took her out of PE even though she sucks at dodgeball.  Our kids today need better coping skills.
 
2013-05-10 01:10:44 PM  

KyngNothing: NutWrench: I_Am_Weasel: As I recall when I was in school, it was referred to as "murder ball"

They called it, "smear the queer (with the ball)" when I was a kid. I have no idea why: none of us knew what a queer was.

See for us, "smear the queer" was basically "group + 1 rugby" - the entire group would try and tackle the person with the ball, until they gave up, and threw it up in the air, for everyone to try and get. You could also get tackled if you gave up too easily, or didn't try to get the free ball hard enough.

(northern MD, 1980s)


smear the queer was one of the most popular games in our neighborhood growing up.  Also regular tackle football, jail break, and massive water balloon fights.
 
2013-05-10 01:11:00 PM  
I just did a quick Google search of everything else this woman has written, and yes, she really is this stupid.  Pretty much everything else that has come out of her head and she has seen fit to put on the internet with her name attached is this embarrassing.
 
2013-05-10 01:11:35 PM  

HeadLever: impaler: I sucked at team sports, but I loved dodgeball.

Kickball can go fark itself.

Ahh, reminds me of the days of wallball where 1/2 the class were always sporting racquet ball sized briuses. In those days, the teachers would just roll thier eyes at us.  I am sure that game is no longer allowed.


We played too. Nowdays it depends on where you are. My 11 year old plays every day & coaches at his Jr. High encourage it. I don't worry about him playing wallball, though. He can hurl a ball about 65+ mph from the wind-up & is deadly accurate. Makes me wonder what his deal is when he's on the mound pitching. Maybe it's the kid in the box, but he just wild enough to be effective.
 
2013-05-10 01:11:36 PM  
The writer sounds like a pencil-necked little twee boy. Bet he has a purty little mouth.
 
2013-05-10 01:11:45 PM  
I've never been much good at sports, so PE was rarely much fun, but come on. Kids aren't that stupid. They're not going to judge your intelligence based on your athleticism. Or, if they are, they're idiots.

Team sports can be great. I still have fond memories of soccer in elementary and middle school. Especially, to be frank, the co-ed years early on, before they established a local AYSO girls' league. I was never very good, and spent most of my playing time on defense (I had a good kick for that, at least, and that came in very handy during the middle school PE kickball games), but a few boys on the team came to be supportive friends. It's at least as much about the interaction as it is about the game itself. Good times.

And that was a casual extra-curricular league. Winning and losing in freaking PE matters even less. Just play the game, get the grade, and move on. Nobody's going to remember how much you sucked at volleyball, or how good you were at archery, or whatever. Well, they won't, unless they happen to read your whiny article on the internet. So good luck with your next class reunion...
 
2013-05-10 01:11:50 PM  
Anyone who is still bitter about their poor performance in PE as a kid and seeks to abolish the games that they failed at should swallow a cyanide pill post haste. LET...IT...GO.

"I developed a slouch"  just shut up please. Everyone suffering through either your spoken or written word will be better off.

/she sounds hideous
 
2013-05-10 01:12:34 PM  
Ahh yeah, the old bullshiat line of "things were so good in the golden age". Whats really funny is that 20 years from now there will be another group of idiots pining for the good old days of today and again and again every new generation. You can find thousand year old documents biatching about the same crap in this thread, well probably not exactly the same stuff but close enough.
 
2013-05-10 01:12:42 PM  

PowerSlacker: The author is a Portland hipster biatch.

Move along, nothing to see here.


QFT. I saw the Name, did a GIS. Yeah.. coont.
 
2013-05-10 01:12:45 PM  
I look forward to the author's next article where he decries the evil of learning math and reasoning -- because, how dare anyone feel inferior about their intelligence in a classroom.  Heck, that whole hand-raising thing is like the smart kids rubbing dirt in the dumb kids' faces.
 
2013-05-10 01:13:09 PM  
We called it "War Ball"  8 balls, probably about 40 kids to start.  Only played it in middle school though and in 8th grade the girls got a new Gym Coach who was all "progressive" and stuff and we had to stop playing it and never even mention "War Ball" again.  We would still play every time she took a day off.  That game was ridiculously fun.  I don't see how it was unhealthy, running for you life for 5 seconds followed by 5 seconds of indulgence in your murder/revenge instinct.

Anyone who says team sports and unhealthy sounds fat and is a wuss.
 
2013-05-10 01:13:38 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: impaler: I sucked at team sports, but I loved dodgeball.

Kickball can go fark itself.

Same here. We lived for it. We had 3 PE periods a week, and if we were really good, we got to play dodge ball on Friday.


Carn: KyngNothing: NutWrench: I_Am_Weasel: As I recall when I was in school, it was referred to as "murder ball"

They called it, "smear the queer (with the ball)" when I was a kid. I have no idea why: none of us knew what a queer was.

See for us, "smear the queer" was basically "group + 1 rugby" - the entire group would try and tackle the person with the ball, until they gave up, and threw it up in the air, for everyone to try and get. You could also get tackled if you gave up too easily, or didn't try to get the free ball hard enough.

(northern MD, 1980s)

smear the queer was one of the most popular games in our neighborhood growing up.  Also regular tackle football, jail break, and massive water balloon fights.


BULLIES!
 
2013-05-10 01:14:40 PM  

Pocket Ninja: I_Am_Weasel: As I recall when I was in school, it was referred to as "murder ball"

Murder Ball was one variety of Dodge Ball, which (the way we played it) involved everybody trying to nail a person who was tagged "it." It was not usually officially sanctioned by the gym teachers, although I don't recall them ever stopping us from playing it during free time. There was also Prison Dodgeball (where team members were "taken prisoner" after being hit and could be freed to rejoin your team in what basically amounted to hostage exchanges); Pin Dodgeball (basic dodgeball with the addition of bowling that had to be protected by your team; if the pins were all knocked down, you lost, so the basic strategy was to stand your weakest players in front of the pins as human shields and do what you could to protect them from being nailed); Quad Dodge (a four-way dodgeball game where you were under threat from all sides); and many others. I loved them all.


When was the last time you went on a murder spree? Have you raped any animals lately? Do you keep any females in your life locked in a basement, you know, where they belong? Since you have obviously grown up to be a psychopath, do you blame murderball or quad dodge?
Dodgeball is a gateway drug to misogyny, republicanism and eating meat. These are facts.
 
2013-05-10 01:14:59 PM  
People gave a shiat about gym class?  I was good at sports and it never occurred to me that it mattered to anyone.  It's just gym.  It matters if you're at tryouts or on the team, but no one cares that you suck at gym.

I didn't even notice you sucking if that makes you feel better.
 
2013-05-10 01:15:05 PM  

KyngNothing: NutWrench: I_Am_Weasel: As I recall when I was in school, it was referred to as "murder ball"

They called it, "smear the queer (with the ball)" when I was a kid. I have no idea why: none of us knew what a queer was.

See for us, "smear the queer" was basically "group + 1 rugby" - the entire group would try and tackle the person with the ball, until they gave up, and threw it up in the air, for everyone to try and get. You could also get tackled if you gave up too easily, or didn't try to get the free ball hard enough.

(northern MD, 1980s)


Yeah, that's pretty much what it was everywhere I lived as well.  And I'm pretty sure none of us knew what a queer was either.

And I loved dodge ball, even though in school I was the skinny kid with thick glasses and my nose in a book.  I don't understand how the kids I grew up with in the 80's and early 90's turned into such pussy little biatches when it came to raising their kids.
 
2013-05-10 01:15:31 PM  

LordJiro: And bonus war crimes!


And if you lost you were tried at the Hague and if found guilty you were hanged.
 
2013-05-10 01:15:52 PM  

mattharvest: So, her whole argument is "I sucked at sports, so sports suck"?

I'm only moderately athletic, rowed crew in college but wasn't brilliant at it, etc. and know that my natural talents lie more in intellectual activities and so that's probably why I worked on them more, but where do you get the ego to think intellectual gifts are intrinsically better than physical?

The sheer chutzpah of acting like kids who are born 'smarter' are somehow better than kids who are born more 'athletic' is just insane, as if the two are somehow opposite ends of a spectrum.  They're completely distinct characteristics.  Kids should be praised for either or both, teaching them to love what they can do well so that they'll work to improve those things and hopefully achieve good or great things.  Telling athletic kids that they suck because they aren't smart enough is no better than telling smart kids they suck because they're not athletic enough.


ahem
actually yes
example    a gorilla (if trainable) - would be excellent at sports

if you wish to claim competition in a subject that an ape would excell in
pls dont be suprised if poo gets thown
 
2013-05-10 01:15:55 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: sigdiamond2000: I'm almost 40. When I was a kid in the summertime, I would basically disappear, every day, between 8 AM and 10 PM, going pretty much anywhere I wanted to and I'd come home dirty, injured, and exhausted. Every day

Heh. An when we got grounded those that were free to roam hung out at the arrestee's house until we drove his parent (usually stay at home Mom) crazy and we'd ALL get chucked including the offender. This was one of our hangouts. We would roam "the woods" as we called it and there were all kinds of scary things there...Snakes, turtles, poison ivy, hippies smoking weed or engaging in other..ahem...activities (wink wink nudge nudge). We built a ramp at the bottom of a steep  where we would jump our bikes with increasing courage. I can remember having to help at least two friends out with broken arms...The LAST thing we wanted to do was get stuck inside.


Oh god my mom would throw us out of the house in the morning in summer. There were a few "neighborhood" kids (as in they lived within a few miles of us) and we would get together and roam the forest, fields, and swamps. We had one of those big triangles on our back porch and when we heard my mom ringing that we'd come back for lunch and then go back out till dinner. And then we stayed out till the sunset which in Michigan was around 9:30-10 PM in the summer. I don't think we were inside for more than an hour at a time unless we were sleeping. And really we never wanted to be.
 
2013-05-10 01:16:09 PM  
So because the author of this article is a total fail she is saying that kids should not do what she is bad at.

Some people need to be pushed in order to find out if they like it or not.  I know a person that never played football except for one time when he was forced to in elementary school.  He went to a reputable university and was asked to try out for the team.  He started for 2 different NFL teams and just retired last year.  If they had made him play more just imagine how good he could have been.
 
2013-05-10 01:16:17 PM  

AbbeySomeone: ecmoRandomNumbers: impaler: I sucked at team sports, but I loved dodgeball.

Kickball can go fark itself.

Same here. We lived for it. We had 3 PE periods a week, and if we were really good, we got to play dodge ball on Friday.

Carn: KyngNothing: NutWrench: I_Am_Weasel: As I recall when I was in school, it was referred to as "murder ball"

They called it, "smear the queer (with the ball)" when I was a kid. I have no idea why: none of us knew what a queer was.

See for us, "smear the queer" was basically "group + 1 rugby" - the entire group would try and tackle the person with the ball, until they gave up, and threw it up in the air, for everyone to try and get. You could also get tackled if you gave up too easily, or didn't try to get the free ball hard enough.

(northern MD, 1980s)

smear the queer was one of the most popular games in our neighborhood growing up.  Also regular tackle football, jail break, and massive water balloon fights.

BULLIES!


The funny thing was, everybody had to take their turn.  Anyone who shied away from the ball and their turn to "be the queer" somebody else would grab it and stuff it in their hands.  In other words everyone took turns getting gang tackled.  We also used to do a variation called "funny fumbles" which was us trying to creative fumble then pile up and crush each other.  I dunno, boys are weird.

Oh and like somebody above said, I'm pretty sure none of use knew what a queer was.
 
2013-05-10 01:16:31 PM  
Also let me say, this thread has restored my faith in Fark.
 
2013-05-10 01:16:49 PM  

ManateeGag: when I was growing up, dodge ball was hardly a team sport.  there was no team work, no helping each other out.  there was a lot of "every man for himself" on both sides of the line.


This. Or worse - sometimes your team worked AGAINST you.

/loved dodgeball 'cuz was quick and agile, so was usually one of the last out.
 
2013-05-10 01:17:28 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Dancin_In_Anson: ManateeGag: when I was growing up, dodge ball was hardly a team sport.  there was no team work, no helping each other out.  there was a lot of "every man for himself" on both sides of the line.

We played with tennis balls too. Nowadays I think they'd call in grief counselors to share our feelings about some of the bruising we took.

I brought this up in a conversation with a group of my old high school classmates last year. The catalyst was this article. Now, most of my classmates' kids are getting into the late teen age range but there are still a few who started late. My question was when did we become such shiatty parents where we were so overly concerned about our kids and why?

I'm almost 40. When I was a kid in the summertime, I would basically disappear, every day, between 8 AM and 10 PM, going pretty much anywhere I wanted to and I'd come home dirty, injured, and exhausted. Every day.

Now, my nieces and nephews are never, ever more than 10 feet away from their parents and are never outside. Whenever one of them somehow wanders away from their invisible umbilical cord, their parents are practically on the phone to the police.
I don't understand what happened either.


fear of strangers, fed by CNN (well, Nancy Grace specifically), Dateline, and Law & Order SVU.

sexual abuse of children by random strangers is extremely rare, but you wouldn't know that when youwatch TV.
 
2013-05-10 01:18:32 PM  
This thread reeks of Stockholm Syndrome.
 
2013-05-10 01:18:39 PM  

KyngNothing: Walker: I think Wallball is more sociopath. They made us stand against a brick wall and other kids would throw balls as hard as they could at us. Nowhere to run cause you're against a wall.

Wow, we did that to ourselves, but it was never a sanctioned activity. (I think we used racquet balls)


In Jr. High, I definitely had coaches that allowed/encouraged or used Wallball themselves, but not in elementary school.
 
2013-05-10 01:18:49 PM  

Hoban Washburne: You know, life is a little hard and a little scary at times.  If at 15 you can't handle the idea of someone throwing a soft rubber ball at you then you've got some toughening up to do.

I will say this though.  Athletes (as in currently enrolled in a sport) should not take gym.  There's a huge competitive gap between them and the general non-athlete student populace.  It hampers the athletes' experience and is unfair to the non-athletes.


I could agree with this one.  Their sport should just count for the PE credit since they are doing significantly more PE anyway.  And us "athletes" generally crushed everyone else which just made it a competition against ourselves.

/ Put athletes in quotes because I believe that drive/competitiveness at that young of an age goes further than natural talent.  A kid that tries hard and gives his all will never be the last one picked.
 
2013-05-10 01:19:26 PM  

NutWrench: I_Am_Weasel: As I recall when I was in school, it was referred to as "murder ball"

They called it, "smear the queer (with the ball)" when I was a kid. I have no idea why: none of us knew what a queer was.


in my neighborhood we played a game called "suicide" which was like a very extreme "smear the queer" and we played "atomic fireball" and yet it involved actual fire.
 
2013-05-10 01:19:31 PM  
Ahh yeah, the old bullshiat line of "things were so good in the golden age". Whats really funny is that 20 years from now there will be another group of idiots pining for the good old days of today and again and again every new generation. You can find thousand year old documents biatching about the same crap in this thread, well probably not exactly the same stuff but close enough.


Speaking as a guy who just turned 40 and works with many twenty somethings, I can't tell you how often younger people make comments about how much cooler everything must have been in the 80's and 90's. And a very large number of "millenials" profess love of musical artists from before their time. When I was a teenager, almost no one "cool" listened to twenty or twenty five year old bands.
Even their own members perceive this generation sucks.
 
2013-05-10 01:19:56 PM  
I was the lanky/awkward kid who mostly got picked last.
The only parts of PE I liked were when we did track and field stuff in the late spring. Can't catch/throw/kick well, but I could jump higher and further than most of my class.
 
2013-05-10 01:20:27 PM  
Dodgeball in Jr High caused me to miss the State Hockey finals, so fark dodgeball, or fark the P.E. instructor who thought it was a good idea to use worn out volleyballs as dodgeballs.
 
2013-05-10 01:20:42 PM  
I remember getting on my bike as an elementary aged kid and going all over town. I wonder if I will let Devo jr. out of the house on his own before his teen years.
 
2013-05-10 01:21:29 PM  
I'm with her.  And I excelled at team sports.Team sports is fine though until say 6th grade at which point extra curricular sports are available in school.  I was a great soccer and volleyball player.  I would never be good at softball or basketball.  Why force basketball onto a 12 year old who will never be good at it and is quickly being outpaced by actual players.  The differentiation is less acute at earlier ages, and a good time to offer up multiple sports to kids so they can find one they like.

But truthfully, if the goal pf phys ed is to make kids more physically fit, then browbeating them into a sport for which they have no skill is likely counter productive.  You're bad at it so you hate gym, so you hate exercise, so you never develop any comfortable exercise regimen.  This isn't math or English or even science which are all part of being a well rounded citizen (and an employable one) it's freakin sports.  Your ability to send in a corner kick will never come up in a job interview.  Your weight and your general health though will definitely be noticed.
 
2013-05-10 01:21:59 PM  

Lorelle: I always viewed dodgeball as the one sport in which the weaklings could get back at the bullies for tormenting them the rest of the school day.


In my experience, the weaklings couldn't throw hard enough or accurately enough to get back at anyone, while the bullies endeavored to cause as much pain and humiliation as possible.
 
2013-05-10 01:22:06 PM  

Carn: AbbeySomeone: ecmoRandomNumbers: impaler: I sucked at team sports, but I loved dodgeball.

Kickball can go fark itself.

Same here. We lived for it. We had 3 PE periods a week, and if we were really good, we got to play dodge ball on Friday.

Carn: KyngNothing: NutWrench: I_Am_Weasel: As I recall when I was in school, it was referred to as "murder ball"

They called it, "smear the queer (with the ball)" when I was a kid. I have no idea why: none of us knew what a queer was.

See for us, "smear the queer" was basically "group + 1 rugby" - the entire group would try and tackle the person with the ball, until they gave up, and threw it up in the air, for everyone to try and get. You could also get tackled if you gave up too easily, or didn't try to get the free ball hard enough.

(northern MD, 1980s)

smear the queer was one of the most popular games in our neighborhood growing up.  Also regular tackle football, jail break, and massive water balloon fights.

BULLIES!

The funny thing was, everybody had to take their turn.  Anyone who shied away from the ball and their turn to "be the queer" somebody else would grab it and stuff it in their hands.  In other words everyone took turns getting gang tackled.  We also used to do a variation called "funny fumbles" which was us trying to creative fumble then pile up and crush each other.  I dunno, boys are weird.

Oh and like somebody above said, I'm pretty sure none of use knew what a queer was.


This.  We played this in my neighborhood for years and I'm certain none of us had any idea what we were saying.  My mom always hated it when I called it that, but I didn't understand why until I was in high school, long after my smear the queer days were over.

/got and saw some pretty serious injuries playing that game.
//still was worth it
 
2013-05-10 01:22:24 PM  
It's true that P.E. really isn't educational. It was just variations on "here's a ball. Go play." Everything I know about fitness and health came from learning on my own. It would be nice if P.E. actually taught kids about exercise instead of being an excuse to give coaches an extra paycheck for, essentially, babysitting.
 
2013-05-10 01:23:07 PM  

NutWrench: I_Am_Weasel: As I recall when I was in school, it was referred to as "murder ball"

They called it, "smear the queer (with the ball)" when I was a kid. I have no idea why: none of us knew what a queer was.


We had a different smear the queer, which was when one kid would get the football and everyone else would try to tackle him.  There was no real goal besides seeing how long you could last.  The rule was you couldn't leave the yard.  This would often result in a "attractive and intelligent African-American pile" which somehow seemed like a normal thing to say at the time.
 
2013-05-10 01:24:04 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Dancin_In_Anson: ManateeGag: when I was growing up, dodge ball was hardly a team sport.  there was no team work, no helping each other out.  there was a lot of "every man for himself" on both sides of the line.

We played with tennis balls too. Nowadays I think they'd call in grief counselors to share our feelings about some of the bruising we took.

I brought this up in a conversation with a group of my old high school classmates last year. The catalyst was this article. Now, most of my classmates' kids are getting into the late teen age range but there are still a few who started late. My question was when did we become such shiatty parents where we were so overly concerned about our kids and why?

I'm almost 40. When I was a kid in the summertime, I would basically disappear, every day, between 8 AM and 10 PM, going pretty much anywhere I wanted to and I'd come home dirty, injured, and exhausted. Every day.

Now, my nieces and nephews are never, ever more than 10 feet away from their parents and are never outside. Whenever one of them somehow wanders away from their invisible umbilical cord, their parents are practically on the phone to the police.
I don't understand what happened either.


Yeah in the summertime the only time you would see me at home was for lunch. Sometimes we were so dirty when we got back from whatever we were doing mom would turn the hose on us before she let us in the house.
 
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