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2013-05-10 09:40:40 AM  
4 votes:
"Lost Boy Generation"? I'm pretty sure the downfall of TV quality is directly related to Reality TV shows geared toward women and middle-aged men who want to relive their glory years. Eg, Baby Boomers.
2013-05-10 10:13:23 AM  
3 votes:
Yeah, I don't see how you can get any closer to "Ow, My Balls" than Tosh.0. Only Tosh.0 ads more scat and vomit humor.

I really will never understand reality TV. I'm not talking about "Fix My House, Asshole" or "Bastard Chef" or shows that while they have manufactured drama, do actually do stuff. But the ones with the vile human beings like "Guido Douchebag"  and "Obese Redneck" that feature people you would consciously walk across the street to avoid if you saw them IRL but someone somewhere is enthralled by them.

I guess it's a trade off, since even with all the horrible reality shiat, when TV is good, usually on cable, it's really good. Like better than most movies good. So the 4-5 shows I actually watch are better than almost anything I grew up with.
2013-05-10 09:46:10 AM  
3 votes:
The Future of?  Have you seen TV lately?
2013-05-10 09:44:31 AM  
3 votes:

WTF Indeed: "Lost Boy Generation"? I'm pretty sure the downfall of TV quality is directly related to Reality TV shows geared toward women and middle-aged men who want to relive their glory years. Eg, Baby Boomers.



That has been the vicious cycle of most mature media companies except maybe Music. The Baby Boomers and leading edge Gen-Xers are the most reliable demo for them, so they will cater to them. Meanwhile Late-X, Gen-Y, and Millenials are horribly unreliable so they don't bother outside of the bare minimum. This has created a pair of feedback loops where it seems like the only commercials on regular Prime-Time are for those 45+ and the only ads on most popular websites are for 30-.
2013-05-10 10:30:17 AM  
2 votes:

NutWrench: If I could go back to any point in time for my entertainment, it would be right around 1985. The glory days of cable TV, when 3/4 of a program's hour wasn't either ads or promotions for other shows. My favorite show was USA's "Night Flight," a variety show that the network would start running around 9pm on Saturday nights and continue until 4-5am the next morning. My roommates and I would sometimes stay up all night.


USA's "Up all night" was b-movie glory. I wish I had smoked pot back then, I would have appreciated how awesome CATV was in the golden years.
2013-05-10 10:26:46 AM  
2 votes:
They're more likely to own a game console than a TV

You know how I know the article was written by an imbecile who doesn't know what they're talking about?
2013-05-10 10:10:18 AM  
2 votes:
They're more likely to own a game console than a TV

So...does anyone else see an inherent problem with this statement?
2013-05-10 04:01:37 PM  
1 votes:

ZeroCorpse: Tumbleweed Garden: Count me in with not really getting the whole "watching other people play games" thing. I don't have the time to play all the games I want nowadays, why would u watch someone else play?

The Koreans actually have ongoing shows and stadium events in which they watch other people play Starcraft for a few hours.

Honestly... I don't get it. The fun of games is playing them; Not watching them being played.


Yet billions of people watch people play the games of soccer, baseball, football, basketball, hockey, cricket, car racing, golf, and dozen of others every day.
2013-05-10 10:59:31 AM  
1 votes:

Mugato: NutWrench: If I could go back to any point in time for my entertainment, it would be right around 1985. The glory days of cable TV, when 3/4 of a program's hour wasn't either ads or promotions for other shows. My favorite show was USA's "Night Flight," a variety show that the network would start running around 9pm on Saturday nights and continue until 4-5am the next morning. My roommates and I would sometimes stay up all night.

We didn't have cable back then so I can't speak to that but if you try to watch '80s network shows today, they're pretty cheesy.


Cheers holds up. And Family Ties was better than average sitcom for the most part. Moonlighting when it was in its prime was a mixed bag: the action scenes are pure 80s cheese but the screwball comedy rapid-fire dialogue still stands out. But apart from that, not much of it aged well.
2013-05-10 10:44:13 AM  
1 votes:

EdgeRunner: The geeks won the culture war, and guess what? Their tastes aren't any more sophisticated or intelligent than any prior generation's. They're just a new social clique, not any kind of evolution of the species.

The butthurt over this from all sides is pretty funny, though maybe not as funny as a good episode of "Ow, My Balls" (that wasn't as prescient a joke as everyone thinks, btw. Remember America's Funniest Home Videos? That's literally all the show was).


Geeks didn't win any "culture war", pop fashion and tastes always change, it's a cycle.

America's Funniest Home Videos was bad, reality on Speed channel is even worse -- more Ow, My Ballsish
2013-05-10 10:37:57 AM  
1 votes:

DubtodaIll: I can't stand naming and dividing "generations."  There is no line in the sand or some magical point in time where one generation ends and the next one begins.


I agree that grouping people in that way is bullshiat. It contributes to some herd mentality of "I'm from this generation so I have to think and act this way". It's all media produced nonsense. I guess if they absolutely had to categorize people in this arbitrary way, the WWII/Baby Boomers/Gen Xers distinctions makes a little sense but what is the real difference between the Gen Xers, Gen Yers and Millenials besides what version of iPod they use? There are no real differences like there were between the "Greatest Generation", the "Hippies turned Yuppies" and their "Slacker" children.
2013-05-10 10:33:41 AM  
1 votes:
I can't imagine anything more boring than watching somebody else play a video game. What's the farking point when you can do it?

All I've heard all my life is how much television sucks. It always has and always will. There are far more stupid people than rocket scientists in the world and they choose what's popular. The internet, with all of it's potential for educating and enlightening, is no different.

People watching people fail in internet videos aren't any different than people watching reality television for the past 20 years. They need to watch somebody be worse off than them. For many people that have had to suffer through helicopter parenting all their life, didn't have to go out and get a job when they were teenagers, can't accept criticism, and spend their lives getting fat from sitting on a computer all day, it's just what the doctor ordered.
2013-05-10 10:30:10 AM  
1 votes:
That's because the future of America is basically Idiocracy.
/less a movie, more dark prophecy everyday
2013-05-10 10:29:46 AM  
1 votes:

NutWrench: If I could go back to any point in time for my entertainment, it would be right around 1985. The glory days of cable TV, when 3/4 of a program's hour wasn't either ads or promotions for other shows. My favorite show was USA's "Night Flight," a variety show that the network would start running around 9pm on Saturday nights and continue until 4-5am the next morning. My roommates and I would sometimes stay up all night.


We didn't have cable back then so I can't speak to that but if you try to watch '80s network shows today, they're pretty cheesy. Shows from the 1990s hold up much better. Three Star Trek series, Seinfeld, MST3K,  X-Files, Twin Peaks, Beavis and Butthead, South Park, Dr. Katz, Mr.Show etc. Just about everything was better in the 1990s.
2013-05-10 10:29:09 AM  
1 votes:

lousyskater: BlueDWarrior: If you go on anime forums, you see this in complaints about 'moe' anime being so predominant.

The problem is people see this as a recent issue when it's been the standard for the last 25 years. They act like it's something new because they didn't get exposed to it until the internet made it stupid easy to keep up with the stuff currently airing there and they still have their nostalgia glasses on full blast.


The fact it's hard to find a list in English that accurately documents all of the productions before 1998 should say something.
It's like video games, once you get 15 years out it's really hard to remember all the shiatty ones.
2013-05-10 10:22:57 AM  
1 votes:
I can't stand naming and dividing "generations."  There is no line in the sand or some magical point in time where one generation ends and the next one begins.  It's the worst kind of grouping because you're basing your analysis on age and not activity.  Also "Lost Boys" is the most overused nomenclature for this sort of grouping.  Aren't lost boys the ones thrown out of fundamental mormonism? Or those orphaned kids from that war with those dark people? Or the kids from the peter pan myth? Or just the movie from the 80s? No no, it's those gamer kids who play lots of video games.  I guess I took some offense to this article because I like video games, but I don't watch a lot of youtube, it's just a hobby; I've got a job and friends and I like the outdoors and stuff.    Anyway, I ended the article feeling the author needs to be the first contestant on "Ow, My Balls!"
2013-05-10 10:22:20 AM  
1 votes:
If I could go back to any point in time for my entertainment, it would be right around 1985. The glory days of cable TV, when 3/4 of a program's hour wasn't either ads or promotions for other shows. My favorite show was USA's "Night Flight," a variety show that the network would start running around 9pm on Saturday nights and continue until 4-5am the next morning. My roommates and I would sometimes stay up all night.
2013-05-10 10:20:42 AM  
1 votes:
There's still some good stuff on, you just have to sort through a LOT of garbage to find it. It kind of makes me sad that shows like Jersey Shore, Desperate Housewives, and Honey Boo Boo exist and have regular viewership, but they do. The major networks are all but a total loss, but AMC still has some good shows. What is even more disturbing to me than the networks going down the crapper are that some of the best channels out there have completely sold out. NatGeo, Discovery Channel, TLC, etc. used to have shows that were both interesting and informative. There are still a few good things on them, but it seems like it's mostly Amish Mafia and Ancient Aliens and pseudo-reality bullshiat. Those channels used to cater to a crowd with some intellectual curiosity and more than 2 functioning neurons. Now they are about as informative as cable news.
2013-05-10 10:08:13 AM  
1 votes:
They're more likely to own a game console than a TV

Does not compute.


Citrate1007: There is an inherent problem for marketing to this demographic in that these slakers don't have very much money to purchase products form advertisers......best to continue marketing to their parents.


Not watching television does not make someone a slacker, moron.
2013-05-10 10:01:14 AM  
1 votes:
There is an inherent problem for marketing to this demographic in that these slakers don't have very much money to purchase products form advertisers......best to continue marketing to their parents.
2013-05-10 09:55:30 AM  
1 votes:

BlueDWarrior: That has been the vicious cycle of most mature media companies except maybe Music. The Baby Boomers and leading edge Gen-Xers are the most reliable demo for them, so they will cater to them. Meanwhile Late-X, Gen-Y, and Millenials are horribly unreliable so they don't bother outside of the bare minimum. This has created a pair of feedback loops where it seems like the only commercials on regular Prime-Time are for those 45+ and the only ads on most popular websites are for 30-.


The younger demo that is watching TV are women and girls and they are watching staged reality TV shows.  There's your current Millenial advertising demo. In 20 years, when that demo is in family mode they'll have sitcoms that are exactly like the ones today with references they'll get. The way it's been since I love Lucy.  Some moron Salon writer thinks that just because people like a show about Zombies, that really isn't a show about Zombies, that all shows in the future will be video-game-eqse.
2013-05-10 09:51:49 AM  
1 votes:

orclover: The Future of?  Have you seen TV lately?


TV has never been better.

WTF Indeed: "Lost Boy Generation"? I'm pretty sure the downfall of TV quality is directly related to Reality TV shows geared toward women and middle-aged men who want to relive their glory years. Eg, Baby Boomers.


We need these shows so that the good shows don't have to cater to the idiots.  Survivor saved television.
2013-05-10 09:49:04 AM  
1 votes:
Everytime you watch Jersey Shore a book commits suicide.
2013-05-10 09:48:43 AM  
1 votes:

orclover: The Future of?  Have you seen TV lately?


Came here to say this.
2013-05-10 09:47:53 AM  
1 votes:
How does a YouTube channel translate to the end of television?
2013-05-10 09:45:49 AM  
1 votes:
There are auction shows, redneck masturbation shows, teen melodrama shows, and no-talent contests. There are outliers, but they're being weeded out and eliminated as we speak. I think, "Ow, my balls!" might be too highbrow for TLC.
 
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