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2013-05-10 09:28:46 AM  
Better get one of these ordered, then......

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2013-05-10 09:40:40 AM  
"Lost Boy Generation"? I'm pretty sure the downfall of TV quality is directly related to Reality TV shows geared toward women and middle-aged men who want to relive their glory years. Eg, Baby Boomers.
 
2013-05-10 09:44:13 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

Oscar material right there
 
2013-05-10 09:44:24 AM  
What, was the Obvious tag on a StarbuXXX run?

/that, I might support
 
2013-05-10 09:44:31 AM  

WTF Indeed: "Lost Boy Generation"? I'm pretty sure the downfall of TV quality is directly related to Reality TV shows geared toward women and middle-aged men who want to relive their glory years. Eg, Baby Boomers.



That has been the vicious cycle of most mature media companies except maybe Music. The Baby Boomers and leading edge Gen-Xers are the most reliable demo for them, so they will cater to them. Meanwhile Late-X, Gen-Y, and Millenials are horribly unreliable so they don't bother outside of the bare minimum. This has created a pair of feedback loops where it seems like the only commercials on regular Prime-Time are for those 45+ and the only ads on most popular websites are for 30-.
 
2013-05-10 09:44:59 AM  
Go away!

'Batin'!
 
2013-05-10 09:45:20 AM  
he future of television is bleaker than one might suspect from the quality of programming still available on HBO or FX

Chill Mr. Blogger - reality television will continue to perform its god-given task of siphoning off the idiots.  Television will be just fine.
 
2013-05-10 09:45:49 AM  
There are auction shows, redneck masturbation shows, teen melodrama shows, and no-talent contests. There are outliers, but they're being weeded out and eliminated as we speak. I think, "Ow, my balls!" might be too highbrow for TLC.
 
2013-05-10 09:46:10 AM  
The Future of?  Have you seen TV lately?
 
2013-05-10 09:47:53 AM  
How does a YouTube channel translate to the end of television?
 
2013-05-10 09:48:43 AM  

orclover: The Future of?  Have you seen TV lately?


Came here to say this.
 
2013-05-10 09:49:04 AM  
Everytime you watch Jersey Shore a book commits suicide.
 
2013-05-10 09:50:35 AM  
This thread sponsored by ABC's Wipeout
 
2013-05-10 09:51:21 AM  
If "ow, my balls" is the future of television, maybe your should unplug the TV first before you start humping it.
 
2013-05-10 09:51:22 AM  

emersonbiggins: This thread sponsored by ABC's Wipeout


Came here to reference Wipeout. Leaving satisfied.
 
2013-05-10 09:51:49 AM  

orclover: The Future of?  Have you seen TV lately?


TV has never been better.

WTF Indeed: "Lost Boy Generation"? I'm pretty sure the downfall of TV quality is directly related to Reality TV shows geared toward women and middle-aged men who want to relive their glory years. Eg, Baby Boomers.


We need these shows so that the good shows don't have to cater to the idiots.  Survivor saved television.
 
2013-05-10 09:52:31 AM  
The future is now:

- Tosh.0
- Ridiculousness
- Spike TV
 
2013-05-10 09:54:37 AM  
It's been in an accelerating decline since MTV and their ilk rolled out.
 
2013-05-10 09:55:30 AM  

BlueDWarrior: That has been the vicious cycle of most mature media companies except maybe Music. The Baby Boomers and leading edge Gen-Xers are the most reliable demo for them, so they will cater to them. Meanwhile Late-X, Gen-Y, and Millenials are horribly unreliable so they don't bother outside of the bare minimum. This has created a pair of feedback loops where it seems like the only commercials on regular Prime-Time are for those 45+ and the only ads on most popular websites are for 30-.


The younger demo that is watching TV are women and girls and they are watching staged reality TV shows.  There's your current Millenial advertising demo. In 20 years, when that demo is in family mode they'll have sitcoms that are exactly like the ones today with references they'll get. The way it's been since I love Lucy.  Some moron Salon writer thinks that just because people like a show about Zombies, that really isn't a show about Zombies, that all shows in the future will be video-game-eqse.
 
2013-05-10 09:57:26 AM  

BlueDWarrior: Late-X, Gen-Y, and Millenials


Gen-Y and Millenials are one and the same
 
2013-05-10 09:58:38 AM  
" Here's how great it is to be white, I could get in a time machine and go to any time and it would be farkin' awesome when I get there. That is exclusively a white privilege. Black people can't fark with time machines. A black guy in a time machine is like hey anything before 1980 no thank you, I don't want to go. But I can go to any time. The year 2, I don't even know what was happening then but I know when I get there, welcome we have a table right here for you sir. ... thank you, it's lovely here in the year 2. I can go to any time in the past, I don't want to go to the future and find out what happens to white people because we're going to pay hard for this shiat, you gotta know that ... we're not just gonna fall from number 1 to 2. They're going to hold us down and fark us in the ass forever and we totally deserve it but for now... wheeeee. If you're white and you don't admit that it's great, you're an asshole. It is great and I'm a man. How many advantages can one person have? I'm a white man, you can't even hurt my feelings. What can you really call a white man that really digs deep? Hey cracker ... oh ruined my day. Boy shouldn't have called me a cracker, bringing me back to owning land and people what a drag. "

-Louis C.K.
 
2013-05-10 09:59:18 AM  

Burr: " Here's how great it is to be white, I could get in a time machine and go to any time and it would be farkin' awesome when I get there. That is exclusively a white privilege. Black people can't fark with time machines. A black guy in a time machine is like hey anything before 1980 no thank you, I don't want to go. But I can go to any time. The year 2, I don't even know what was happening then but I know when I get there, welcome we have a table right here for you sir. ... thank you, it's lovely here in the year 2. I can go to any time in the past, I don't want to go to the future and find out what happens to white people because we're going to pay hard for this shiat, you gotta know that ... we're not just gonna fall from number 1 to 2. They're going to hold us down and fark us in the ass forever and we totally deserve it but for now... wheeeee. If you're white and you don't admit that it's great, you're an asshole. It is great and I'm a man. How many advantages can one person have? I'm a white man, you can't even hurt my feelings. What can you really call a white man that really digs deep? Hey cracker ... oh ruined my day. Boy shouldn't have called me a cracker, bringing me back to owning land and people what a drag. "

-Louis C.K.


And damnit...wrong thread....

/can I go home now
 
2013-05-10 09:59:32 AM  
I came to say what others already said. The future is now. "Ow my balls" basically describes 90% of the tv out there anymore. From non stop family guy and it's clone shows to reality tv. Cancelled cable a couple of years ago and just internets what I want to watch.

Combine that with adblocking my browsers, and I'm clueless as to new products, commercials and what I'm supposed to be buying according to the man. Works for me.

I had to adblock farks "stop adblocking me" banner too, farkers.
 
2013-05-10 09:59:42 AM  

AliceBToklasLives: orclover: The Future of?  Have you seen TV lately?

TV has never been better.

WTF Indeed: "Lost Boy Generation"? I'm pretty sure the downfall of TV quality is directly related to Reality TV shows geared toward women and middle-aged men who want to relive their glory years. Eg, Baby Boomers.

We need these shows so that the good shows don't have to cater to the idiots.  Survivor saved television.


Notsureifserious.jpg
 
2013-05-10 10:01:14 AM  
There is an inherent problem for marketing to this demographic in that these slakers don't have very much money to purchase products form advertisers......best to continue marketing to their parents.
 
2013-05-10 10:01:27 AM  
Well, at least we still have HBO, AMC, FX and USA.
 
2013-05-10 10:02:15 AM  
Whenever I flip past a reality show (The only one I ever actually watched was "The Osbournes"), I always flash on the film version of "Fahrenheit 451," the part where the wife is nagging her husband for another TV wall so she can interact even more with the people on the programs.

It's coming. . . .
 
2013-05-10 10:03:10 AM  
A quality television culture that consistently produces good shows that have mass appeal without catering to the lowest common denominators?


Well I don't even know if its real. Even if it is, this is gonna sit on a shelf for a long time. And *I* gotta make money too. How about $30?
 
2013-05-10 10:03:27 AM  
I think of that literally every time I see a promo for "Wipeout"
 
2013-05-10 10:04:04 AM  

neongoats: I came to say what others already said. The future is now. "Ow my balls" basically describes 90% of the tv out there anymore. From non stop family guy and it's clone shows to reality tv. Cancelled cable a couple of years ago and just internets what I want to watch.

Combine that with adblocking my browsers, and I'm clueless as to new products, commercials and what I'm supposed to be buying according to the man. Works for me.

I had to adblock farks "stop adblocking me" banner too, farkers.


It's actions like that precipitate the feedback loop we see in degenerating quality of non-niche programming. Until the basic funding mechanism of content production (from traditional TV to web-TV/Youtube/etc. stuff) changes, the things that get the money are going to be the things that can reliably deliver eyeballs for advertisers.

This is why print media is so farked if the trends continue, no one pays attention to print ads so why bother?
 
2013-05-10 10:05:55 AM  

Cyno01: Well, at least we still have HBO, AMC, FX and USA.


And Showtime
 
2013-05-10 10:06:38 AM  

Citrate1007: There is an inherent problem for marketing to this demographic in that these slakers don't have very much money to purchase products form advertisers......best to continue marketing to their parents.


Well, when I think about a Lost Generation, look at what's happened to males in Japan. We're looking at a terrible vicious loop where they are having to cater to an increasingly odd group of 20-somethings that have very weird demands. So weird it's making it difficult for worldwide media producers (see Japanese video game and anime companies) market their products outside the borders in a widespread fashion.

If you go on anime forums, you see this in complaints about 'moe' anime being so predominant.
 
2013-05-10 10:07:34 AM  
Sorry, this is WORSE than reality TV?

At least people are using this to play better. It least it's actually real.

I caught one of these reality shows, the one about the guy digging for fossils. I thought it might be interesting, about the history or whatever. But it was all just fakery, including most of the reactions from people. I'm not sure how real reality TV ever was, but why people are watching this stuff now, I don't know.
 
2013-05-10 10:08:13 AM  
They're more likely to own a game console than a TV

Does not compute.


Citrate1007: There is an inherent problem for marketing to this demographic in that these slakers don't have very much money to purchase products form advertisers......best to continue marketing to their parents.


Not watching television does not make someone a slacker, moron.
 
2013-05-10 10:10:18 AM  
They're more likely to own a game console than a TV

So...does anyone else see an inherent problem with this statement?
 
2013-05-10 10:11:59 AM  

StrangeQ: They're more likely to own a game console than a TV

So...does anyone else see an inherent problem with this statement?


Yeah, this is a failure of context; what he probably should have wrote was "They are more likely to own a game console than a  cable box."
 
2013-05-10 10:12:29 AM  
Long, rambling, hard to read diatribe complaining about how the next generation of whipper snappers is going to ruin the world. Repeat from 2003, 1993, 1983...

Hot news flash... the most popular thing in ANY generation is something really stupid and pointless (sports, fashion, music, etc...).
 
2013-05-10 10:13:23 AM  
Yeah, I don't see how you can get any closer to "Ow, My Balls" than Tosh.0. Only Tosh.0 ads more scat and vomit humor.

I really will never understand reality TV. I'm not talking about "Fix My House, Asshole" or "Bastard Chef" or shows that while they have manufactured drama, do actually do stuff. But the ones with the vile human beings like "Guido Douchebag"  and "Obese Redneck" that feature people you would consciously walk across the street to avoid if you saw them IRL but someone somewhere is enthralled by them.

I guess it's a trade off, since even with all the horrible reality shiat, when TV is good, usually on cable, it's really good. Like better than most movies good. So the 4-5 shows I actually watch are better than almost anything I grew up with.
 
2013-05-10 10:15:45 AM  

AliceBToklasLives: orclover: The Future of?  Have you seen TV lately?

TV has never been better.

WTF Indeed: "Lost Boy Generation"? I'm pretty sure the downfall of TV quality is directly related to Reality TV shows geared toward women and middle-aged men who want to relive their glory years. Eg, Baby Boomers.

We need these shows so that the good shows don't have to cater to the idiots.  Survivor saved television.


I realize this is Fark and all, and I've been here a year or two but that's the most idiotic *and* disturbing thing I've ever read.

\Jesus, what a crap show
\\and I have to see promos for that goddamn thing every day, all friggin day long
\\\what's next? "Fox News Saved Journalism"?
 
2013-05-10 10:18:00 AM  

BlueDWarrior: neongoats: I came to say what others already said. The future is now. "Ow my balls" basically describes 90% of the tv out there anymore. From non stop family guy and it's clone shows to reality tv. Cancelled cable a couple of years ago and just internets what I want to watch.

Combine that with adblocking my browsers, and I'm clueless as to new products, commercials and what I'm supposed to be buying according to the man. Works for me.

I had to adblock farks "stop adblocking me" banner too, farkers.

It's actions like that precipitate the feedback loop we see in degenerating quality of non-niche programming. Until the basic funding mechanism of content production (from traditional TV to web-TV/Youtube/etc. stuff) changes, the things that get the money are going to be the things that can reliably deliver eyeballs for advertisers.

This is why print media is so farked if the trends continue, no one pays attention to print ads so why bother?


I would say that the entertainment industry needs to adapt its revenue model to the needs of a changing marketplace. It took the music industry almost a decade, but they almost have it, and had to be dragged there kicking and screaming by Apple of all things.

But instead what happens is that the entertainment industry lobbies the government to force people to play the game their way. And then wonders why savvy people just end up torrenting.

In my case, I'm a quality purist, so if I realllllly love something, I buy the blu-ray and they get their cut.
 
2013-05-10 10:19:39 AM  

BlueDWarrior: Citrate1007: There is an inherent problem for marketing to this demographic in that these slakers don't have very much money to purchase products form advertisers......best to continue marketing to their parents.

Well, when I think about a Lost Generation, look at what's happened to males in Japan. We're looking at a terrible vicious loop where they are having to cater to an increasingly odd group of 20-somethings that have very weird demands. So weird it's making it difficult for worldwide media producers (see Japanese video game and anime companies) market their products outside the borders in a widespread fashion.

If you go on anime forums, you see this in complaints about 'moe' anime being so predominant.


I'm friends with a Japanese exchange student at my school (I'm the old lady in the classes usually), but anyway he's maybe 19 and doesn't even really know anything about Anime or that part of their culture. He complains that that's what a lot of other students here assume about him when really he's just a soccer nut. He said he's hoping to go see the World Cup game in Brazil this summer. Soooo basically, don't let one segment of the internet make you think that's all there is to people across the pond :D
 
2013-05-10 10:19:58 AM  
And they love, love, love to watch videos of other gamers playing video games.

This I do not understand.  Keep in mind, I started with an Atari 2600 and have kept at it  to this very day.  I adore gaming.  However, I don't get why my 13 yr old will sit for hours watching youtube clips of some jackass riding a minecart through his gold farm.  p.s. I just finished building my goldfarm :D
 
2013-05-10 10:20:42 AM  
There's still some good stuff on, you just have to sort through a LOT of garbage to find it. It kind of makes me sad that shows like Jersey Shore, Desperate Housewives, and Honey Boo Boo exist and have regular viewership, but they do. The major networks are all but a total loss, but AMC still has some good shows. What is even more disturbing to me than the networks going down the crapper are that some of the best channels out there have completely sold out. NatGeo, Discovery Channel, TLC, etc. used to have shows that were both interesting and informative. There are still a few good things on them, but it seems like it's mostly Amish Mafia and Ancient Aliens and pseudo-reality bullshiat. Those channels used to cater to a crowd with some intellectual curiosity and more than 2 functioning neurons. Now they are about as informative as cable news.
 
2013-05-10 10:22:20 AM  
If I could go back to any point in time for my entertainment, it would be right around 1985. The glory days of cable TV, when 3/4 of a program's hour wasn't either ads or promotions for other shows. My favorite show was USA's "Night Flight," a variety show that the network would start running around 9pm on Saturday nights and continue until 4-5am the next morning. My roommates and I would sometimes stay up all night.
 
2013-05-10 10:22:57 AM  
I can't stand naming and dividing "generations."  There is no line in the sand or some magical point in time where one generation ends and the next one begins.  It's the worst kind of grouping because you're basing your analysis on age and not activity.  Also "Lost Boys" is the most overused nomenclature for this sort of grouping.  Aren't lost boys the ones thrown out of fundamental mormonism? Or those orphaned kids from that war with those dark people? Or the kids from the peter pan myth? Or just the movie from the 80s? No no, it's those gamer kids who play lots of video games.  I guess I took some offense to this article because I like video games, but I don't watch a lot of youtube, it's just a hobby; I've got a job and friends and I like the outdoors and stuff.    Anyway, I ended the article feeling the author needs to be the first contestant on "Ow, My Balls!"
 
2013-05-10 10:23:14 AM  

ladyfortuna: BlueDWarrior: Citrate1007: There is an inherent problem for marketing to this demographic in that these slakers don't have very much money to purchase products form advertisers......best to continue marketing to their parents.

Well, when I think about a Lost Generation, look at what's happened to males in Japan. We're looking at a terrible vicious loop where they are having to cater to an increasingly odd group of 20-somethings that have very weird demands. So weird it's making it difficult for worldwide media producers (see Japanese video game and anime companies) market their products outside the borders in a widespread fashion.

If you go on anime forums, you see this in complaints about 'moe' anime being so predominant.

I'm friends with a Japanese exchange student at my school (I'm the old lady in the classes usually), but anyway he's maybe 19 and doesn't even really know anything about Anime or that part of their culture. He complains that that's what a lot of other students here assume about him when really he's just a soccer nut. He said he's hoping to go see the World Cup game in Brazil this summer. Soooo basically, don't let one segment of the internet make you think that's all there is to people across the pond :D


Yeah, it is unfair to extrapolate on an entire nationality/ethnicity/demo based upon the 'worst' members. Also I wonder if we're gonna get a Japan vs. US rematch in the Women's Final, that game was pretty fun to watch as a casual soccer fan all things considered.
 
2013-05-10 10:25:15 AM  
The future? Subby has obviously never seen MTV's Ridiculousness. Ow, My Balls! is already a reality.
 
2013-05-10 10:25:54 AM  

BlueDWarrior: If you go on anime forums, you see this in complaints about 'moe' anime being so predominant.


The problem is people see this as a recent issue when it's been the standard for the last 25 years. They act like it's something new because they didn't get exposed to it until the internet made it stupid easy to keep up with the stuff currently airing there and they still have their nostalgia glasses on full blast.
 
2013-05-10 10:26:46 AM  

47 is the new 42: AliceBToklasLives: orclover: The Future of?  Have you seen TV lately?

TV has never been better.

WTF Indeed: "Lost Boy Generation"? I'm pretty sure the downfall of TV quality is directly related to Reality TV shows geared toward women and middle-aged men who want to relive their glory years. Eg, Baby Boomers.

We need these shows so that the good shows don't have to cater to the idiots.  Survivor saved television.

Notsureifserious.jpg



Yes, TV has never been better.  Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, Mad Men, Shameless, Dexter.  That's just what's currently running.  Take the last 10 years or so  and you have: The Wire, Deadwood, Rome, BSG, The Sopranos, Curb,  Buffy and Angel, Arrested Development, The Tudors, Big Love, It's Always Sunny, etc. etc. etc.


/without reality TV, all of these shows would have to be dumbed down - kind of like back in the day when Hill Street Blues had to have the occasional car chase with wha wha 70s music so the idiots weren't scared away by the witty dialogue.
 
2013-05-10 10:26:46 AM  
They're more likely to own a game console than a TV

You know how I know the article was written by an imbecile who doesn't know what they're talking about?
 
2013-05-10 10:27:23 AM  

mod3072: There's still some good stuff on, you just have to sort through a LOT of garbage to find it. It kind of makes me sad that shows like Jersey Shore, Desperate Housewives, and Honey Boo Boo exist and have regular viewership, but they do. The major networks are all but a total loss, but AMC still has some good shows. What is even more disturbing to me than the networks going down the crapper are that some of the best channels out there have completely sold out. NatGeo, Discovery Channel, TLC, etc. used to have shows that were both interesting and informative. There are still a few good things on them, but it seems like it's mostly Amish Mafia and Ancient Aliens and pseudo-reality bullshiat. Those channels used to cater to a crowd with some intellectual curiosity and more than 2 functioning neurons. Now they are about as informative as cable news.


The problem there is the advertising model is being wrecked by all derivatives of On-Demand. People aren't willing to sit down at a specific time and watch a given show. Combine that with the increasing media consolidation creating homogenization amongst the networks. Now your basic cable which used to cater to a general niche is being homogenized and it's the expensive digital cable/satellite shiat that caters to the niche. And even then those channels have to have their generic catch-all programming that ruins the niche. The last factor is talent dilution: since there are SO many potential outlets, a lot of crap gets past the network since they can always find some timeslot for it. When we only had 10 or so good networks (the 3 big ones and 7 or 8 big cable channels) you could enact some more quality controls.
 
2013-05-10 10:29:09 AM  

lousyskater: BlueDWarrior: If you go on anime forums, you see this in complaints about 'moe' anime being so predominant.

The problem is people see this as a recent issue when it's been the standard for the last 25 years. They act like it's something new because they didn't get exposed to it until the internet made it stupid easy to keep up with the stuff currently airing there and they still have their nostalgia glasses on full blast.


The fact it's hard to find a list in English that accurately documents all of the productions before 1998 should say something.
It's like video games, once you get 15 years out it's really hard to remember all the shiatty ones.
 
2013-05-10 10:29:46 AM  

NutWrench: If I could go back to any point in time for my entertainment, it would be right around 1985. The glory days of cable TV, when 3/4 of a program's hour wasn't either ads or promotions for other shows. My favorite show was USA's "Night Flight," a variety show that the network would start running around 9pm on Saturday nights and continue until 4-5am the next morning. My roommates and I would sometimes stay up all night.


We didn't have cable back then so I can't speak to that but if you try to watch '80s network shows today, they're pretty cheesy. Shows from the 1990s hold up much better. Three Star Trek series, Seinfeld, MST3K,  X-Files, Twin Peaks, Beavis and Butthead, South Park, Dr. Katz, Mr.Show etc. Just about everything was better in the 1990s.
 
2013-05-10 10:30:10 AM  
That's because the future of America is basically Idiocracy.
/less a movie, more dark prophecy everyday
 
2013-05-10 10:30:17 AM  

NutWrench: If I could go back to any point in time for my entertainment, it would be right around 1985. The glory days of cable TV, when 3/4 of a program's hour wasn't either ads or promotions for other shows. My favorite show was USA's "Night Flight," a variety show that the network would start running around 9pm on Saturday nights and continue until 4-5am the next morning. My roommates and I would sometimes stay up all night.


USA's "Up all night" was b-movie glory. I wish I had smoked pot back then, I would have appreciated how awesome CATV was in the golden years.
 
2013-05-10 10:31:31 AM  
I understand that older non gamer doesn't get a YouTube channel aimed at young gamers. What I don't understand is why he thinks that signals the end of television.

If anything, media now has something for everybody. I'm currently enjoying Breaking Bad, The Walking Dead, Battle Star Galactica, Game of Thrones, Archer, etc. Considering I grew up in the 80's watching Dukes of Hazard, The A-Team, Riptide, the orignal Battlestar, etc - I appreciate how good modern TV is.

We've never had such a huge variety of choices as now. If anything, in my cynical moments, I imagine the future may be more like Wall-E than idiocracy.
 
2013-05-10 10:33:06 AM  

Mugato: NutWrench: If I could go back to any point in time for my entertainment, it would be right around 1985. The glory days of cable TV, when 3/4 of a program's hour wasn't either ads or promotions for other shows. My favorite show was USA's "Night Flight," a variety show that the network would start running around 9pm on Saturday nights and continue until 4-5am the next morning. My roommates and I would sometimes stay up all night.

We didn't have cable back then so I can't speak to that but if you try to watch '80s network shows today, they're pretty cheesy. Shows from the 1990s hold up much better. Three Star Trek series, Seinfeld, MST3K,  X-Files, Twin Peaks, Beavis and Butthead, South Park, Dr. Katz, Mr.Show etc. Just about everything was better in the 1990s.


Yes. Alot of win in this post. I only barely consider South Park a 90's thing though. I identify it with assholes who were teens in the early 00's, it's always going to be "bush era programming" to me.
 
2013-05-10 10:33:41 AM  
I can't imagine anything more boring than watching somebody else play a video game. What's the farking point when you can do it?

All I've heard all my life is how much television sucks. It always has and always will. There are far more stupid people than rocket scientists in the world and they choose what's popular. The internet, with all of it's potential for educating and enlightening, is no different.

People watching people fail in internet videos aren't any different than people watching reality television for the past 20 years. They need to watch somebody be worse off than them. For many people that have had to suffer through helicopter parenting all their life, didn't have to go out and get a job when they were teenagers, can't accept criticism, and spend their lives getting fat from sitting on a computer all day, it's just what the doctor ordered.
 
2013-05-10 10:35:17 AM  
recently.rainweb.net
 
2013-05-10 10:37:57 AM  

DubtodaIll: I can't stand naming and dividing "generations."  There is no line in the sand or some magical point in time where one generation ends and the next one begins.


I agree that grouping people in that way is bullshiat. It contributes to some herd mentality of "I'm from this generation so I have to think and act this way". It's all media produced nonsense. I guess if they absolutely had to categorize people in this arbitrary way, the WWII/Baby Boomers/Gen Xers distinctions makes a little sense but what is the real difference between the Gen Xers, Gen Yers and Millenials besides what version of iPod they use? There are no real differences like there were between the "Greatest Generation", the "Hippies turned Yuppies" and their "Slacker" children.
 
2013-05-10 10:38:24 AM  
Whatever happened to the TV of Tomorrow?
 
2013-05-10 10:39:42 AM  
The geeks won the culture war, and guess what? Their tastes aren't any more sophisticated or intelligent than any prior generation's. They're just a new social clique, not any kind of evolution of the species.

The butthurt over this from all sides is pretty funny, though maybe not as funny as a good episode of "Ow, My Balls" (that wasn't as prescient a joke as everyone thinks, btw. Remember America's Funniest Home Videos? That's literally all the show was).
 
2013-05-10 10:40:21 AM  

Fano: Whatever happened to the TV of Tomorrow?


Check your listings
 
2013-05-10 10:44:13 AM  

EdgeRunner: The geeks won the culture war, and guess what? Their tastes aren't any more sophisticated or intelligent than any prior generation's. They're just a new social clique, not any kind of evolution of the species.

The butthurt over this from all sides is pretty funny, though maybe not as funny as a good episode of "Ow, My Balls" (that wasn't as prescient a joke as everyone thinks, btw. Remember America's Funniest Home Videos? That's literally all the show was).


Geeks didn't win any "culture war", pop fashion and tastes always change, it's a cycle.

America's Funniest Home Videos was bad, reality on Speed channel is even worse -- more Ow, My Ballsish
 
2013-05-10 10:45:38 AM  

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: And they love, love, love to watch videos of other gamers playing video games.

This I do not understand.  Keep in mind, I started with an Atari 2600 and have kept at it  to this very day.  I adore gaming.  However, I don't get why my 13 yr old will sit for hours watching youtube clips of some jackass riding a minecart through his gold farm.  p.s. I just finished building my goldfarm :D


First, congrats on your goldfarm, whatever the hell that is.  :)

Secondly, our generation isn't exactly off the hook from the whole "I don't understand how people can watch video games" thing.  I seem to recall a syndicated show back in the mid-80s where the contestants would play arcade games, and the viewer would watch them play.  In retrospect, it was remarkably stupid...yet I'll admit that when I was 13, I would watch it every Saturday.

/off to feel shame
 
2013-05-10 10:46:33 AM  

neongoats: Yes. Alot of win in this post. I only barely consider South Park a 90's thing though


Well that's because it's been on forever. But it did start in 1997. I especially remember the episode from 1998 where they woke up a guy who was frozen since 1996 and everyone treated him like a caveman. He was used to listening to Ace of Base and being from a time when the web was a new development and found its modern advances strange and scary. Especially the new found, easily accessed porn. If there was a time capsule that would summarize the '90s, that episode would be included.
 
2013-05-10 10:50:01 AM  
While I agree that mainstream TV and Cable networks are going downhill, we've got new choices that are catering to a niche audience.

TWiT, Revision3, Channel Filp, Netflix, etc.

Instead of the box you rent from the cable company for $5 for life, you use your game system or get a $50 box to connect to your TV. All this stuff is available, on demand. You don't have to watch it at 11:30, you get to pause it to go get a snack from the fridge.

Most of CBS, NBC, and ABC is available online anyway. So is PBS and BBC. It's easy to find what you want if you don't mind watching it the next day; you don't even need a TiVO.

I would believe the reason is plain greed. There are simply a lot of idiots out there, and dumb shows are gobbled up by a wider audience. You can get more Nielsen ratings, and charge advertisers more; but it has little to do with reputation or who's actually watching.

Cable is just a race to the fat bottom right now.
 
2013-05-10 10:58:35 AM  
The Irresponsible Captain: While I agree that mainstream TV and Cable networks are going downhill, we've got new choices that are catering to a niche audience.

TWiT, Revision3, Channel Filp, Netflix, etc.

That's it. There's no money in TV any longer. TV is dead, it just hasn't been buried yet.  Besides sports no one will watch commercials as people record and watch at their convenience.

The web can produce the long tail shows and make it with the very low distribution AND  low production costs.  The regular TV and cable can only lower their production. Would you advertise your product on TV?

/.pub FTW
 
2013-05-10 10:59:31 AM  

Mugato: NutWrench: If I could go back to any point in time for my entertainment, it would be right around 1985. The glory days of cable TV, when 3/4 of a program's hour wasn't either ads or promotions for other shows. My favorite show was USA's "Night Flight," a variety show that the network would start running around 9pm on Saturday nights and continue until 4-5am the next morning. My roommates and I would sometimes stay up all night.

We didn't have cable back then so I can't speak to that but if you try to watch '80s network shows today, they're pretty cheesy.


Cheers holds up. And Family Ties was better than average sitcom for the most part. Moonlighting when it was in its prime was a mixed bag: the action scenes are pure 80s cheese but the screwball comedy rapid-fire dialogue still stands out. But apart from that, not much of it aged well.
 
2013-05-10 11:09:57 AM  

gunga galunga: Cheers holds up. And Family Ties was better than average sitcom for the most part. Moonlighting when it was in its prime was a mixed bag: the action scenes are pure 80s cheese but the screwball comedy rapid-fire dialogue still stands out. But apart from that, not much of it aged well.


You forgot the best of the late 80s:

www.badassoftheweek.com
 
2013-05-10 11:10:18 AM  
We should have more TV shows like this one:


Golden Balls

Golden Balls instead of Ow My Balls
 
2013-05-10 11:17:48 AM  
Has anyone seen the Hulu exclusive The Online Gamer?
ecx.images-amazon.com

Watching that show made me give up video games all together.
It really showed it as an addictive angry anti-social behavior, while attempting to be funny.
Not sure if it was the poor writing or that I actually knew people who acted somewhat like that, back in the internet cafe days.
So sad.
 
2013-05-10 11:18:25 AM  

Count_Crackula: First, congrats on your goldfarm, whatever the hell that is. :)

Thanks, It's a minecraft thing.
 
2013-05-10 11:20:03 AM  
I'll go ya one further...

The future of America is Idiocracy.

/future?
 
2013-05-10 11:25:13 AM  
The future of television is none
 
2013-05-10 11:27:09 AM  
AliceBToklasLives:
Yes, TV has never been better.  Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, Mad Men, Shameless, Dexter.  That's just what's currently running.  Take the last 10 years or so  and you have: The Wire, Deadwood, Rome, BSG, The Sopranos, Curb,  Buffy and Angel, Arrested Development, The Tudors, Big Love, It's Always Sunny, etc. etc. etc.

/without reality TV, all of these shows would have to be dumbed down - kind of like back in the day when Hill Street Blues had to have the occasional car chase with wha wha 70s music so the idiots weren't scared away by the witty dialogue.


Total agreement with this. Looking past all the crap, just the fact that there are more than 3 great shows existing at the same time and we're not forced to choose between 4 or 5 channels with nothing appealing on puts us ahead of any other time period. Not to mention the production values on some shows now come close to rivaling movies. Plus I rarely sit through commercials anymore.
 
2013-05-10 11:30:03 AM  

CheapEngineer: AliceBToklasLives: orclover: The Future of?  Have you seen TV lately?

TV has never been better.

WTF Indeed: "Lost Boy Generation"? I'm pretty sure the downfall of TV quality is directly related to Reality TV shows geared toward women and middle-aged men who want to relive their glory years. Eg, Baby Boomers.

We need these shows so that the good shows don't have to cater to the idiots.  Survivor saved television.

I realize this is Fark and all, and I've been here a year or two but that's the most idiotic *and* disturbing thing I've ever read.

\Jesus, what a crap show
\\and I have to see promos for that goddamn thing every day, all friggin day long
\\\what's next? "Fox News Saved Journalism"?


No, no, you were supposed to put up your hands and say "whoa, whoa, I think the living would envy the dead!"
 
2013-05-10 11:36:17 AM  
AFHV has been around a long time. So Ow My Balls is also the past.
 
2013-05-10 11:42:47 AM  

ColSanders: orclover: The Future of?  Have you seen TV lately?

Came here to say this.


Came here to say the first thing, then when I saw that, the second thing. Seeing as how both have already been said, going to watch TV. Excuse me please, Yakkity Sacks is on.

/owmyballs
 
2013-05-10 11:45:22 AM  

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Count_Crackula: First, congrats on your goldfarm, whatever the hell that is. :)
Thanks, It's a minecraft thing.


I figured as much.  I've deliberately avoided Minecraft for fear it would reduce me to a completely useless member of society.  Well, more useless than I already am.
 
2013-05-10 11:53:32 AM  
That is what America's Funniest home Videos basically was. TV really could only improve from there.
 
2013-05-10 11:54:56 AM  

Iamanevilcarrot: I can't imagine anything more boring than watching somebody else play a video game. What's the farking point when you can do it?


I'm actually watching a couple semi-blind Let's Play four player co-op Borderlands 2 series of videos.  This is a game I am currently addicted to, and it's fun to watch a group of four people play it for the first time and watch their reactions to the game (because it's a four player group, they are mostly reacting to the game and each other as opposed to merely talking to the camera).  I've also watched a few competetive Team Fortress 2 matches, which is basically like watching any sporting event.
 
2013-05-10 11:55:22 AM  
TV hasn't been the same since Uncle Miltie went off the air, Then you started to see all this trash TV like "All In The Family" and "Chico and the Man." What is this world coming to?
 
2013-05-10 11:56:14 AM  
Meh, The Big Bang Theory, How I Met Your Mother, Modern Family, The Middle, and that's just sit coms.

I can dork out with Good Eats, How It's Made or How Do They Do It.  Thankfully new format Top Gear is still on BBC America regularly and the Science channel of all places carried An Idiot Abroad.  I don't get the movie channels but I know they put out some quality dramas.

Now I just need a new season of Dirty Jobs.  And a dedicated channel to No Reservations repeats 24/7.

Also watch a few Episodes of Burn Notice here and there, wish I had followed it from the start.  Psych is pretty good now and then as well.
 
2013-05-10 11:57:31 AM  

NutWrench: If I could go back to any point in time for my entertainment, it would be right around 1985. The glory days of cable TV, when 3/4 of a program's hour wasn't either ads or promotions for other shows. My favorite show was USA's "Night Flight," a variety show that the network would start running around 9pm on Saturday nights and continue until 4-5am the next morning. My roommates and I would sometimes stay up all night.


Night Flight was AWESOME!
 
2013-05-10 11:58:47 AM  
Hmmm.  How about "America's Scariest Dancers?"

/bails out of thread to contact an agent

//before anyone else comes up with the concept
 
2013-05-10 12:02:39 PM  

NostroZ: Has anyone seen the Hulu exclusive The Online Gamer?
[ecx.images-amazon.com image 500x375]

Watching that show made me give up video games all together.
It really showed it as an addictive angry anti-social behavior, while attempting to be funny.
Not sure if it was the poor writing or that I actually knew people who acted somewhat like that, back in the internet cafe days.
So sad.


So now you watch TV instead?
 
2013-05-10 12:04:36 PM  

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: And they love, love, love to watch videos of other gamers playing video games.

This I do not understand.  Keep in mind, I started with an Atari 2600 and have kept at it  to this very day.  I adore gaming.  However, I don't get why my 13 yr old will sit for hours watching youtube clips of some jackass riding a minecart through his gold farm.  p.s. I just finished building my goldfarm :D


I couldn't find the post from the guy mentioning they had a show in the 80s showing arcade games being played, so here is a decent place to mention: it was a game show based around getting timed high scores, and they played zoo keeper and spy hunter a lot. It was Star cade and was decent.

I don't know that I'd watch a walkthrough though.
 
2013-05-10 12:04:49 PM  
Soooo... you're saying it hasn't happened yet?
farm5.staticflickr.com
 
2013-05-10 12:05:04 PM  
Only stupid people watch television.
 
2013-05-10 12:05:24 PM  

Egoy3k: NostroZ: Has anyone seen the Hulu exclusive The Online Gamer?
[ecx.images-amazon.com image 500x375]

Watching that show made me give up video games all together.
It really showed it as an addictive angry anti-social behavior, while attempting to be funny.
Not sure if it was the poor writing or that I actually knew people who acted somewhat like that, back in the internet cafe days.
So sad.

So now you watch TV instead?


No, isn't it obvious what I do?  Same as you... Fark
Then I'll watch TV shows online (via Hulu) or Netflix.
Or go outside, run, ride a bike, play some tennis... you know, learned how to get a life o_O
 
2013-05-10 12:05:46 PM  
Good evening, America. Tonight we feature:
Anorexic beauty queens
Serial killer documentaries
Million dollar action scenes
Dry humping teenage magazines
Preaching pervert hypocrisy
Prescription drugs. Plastic Surgery
High school drama killing sprees
Arabian-Redneck conspiracies

/obscure?
 
2013-05-10 12:06:54 PM  
 
2013-05-10 12:08:51 PM  

mygirlsaysno: That's because the future of America is basically Idiocracy.
/less a movie, more dark prophecy everyday


Will it have electrolytes? *hand wave*
 
2013-05-10 12:09:25 PM  

tarheel07: Good evening, America. Tonight we feature:
Anorexic beauty queens
Serial killer documentaries
Million dollar action scenes
Dry humping teenage magazines
Preaching pervert hypocrisy
Prescription drugs. Plastic Surgery
High school drama killing sprees
Arabian-Redneck conspiracies

/obscure?


Just turn up the volume, and yank off the knob. We've got it all, on UHF.
 
2013-05-10 12:10:31 PM  

tarheel07: Good evening, America. Tonight we feature:
Anorexic beauty queens
Serial killer documentaries
Million dollar action scenes
Dry humping teenage magazines
Preaching pervert hypocrisy
Prescription drugs. Plastic Surgery
High school drama killing sprees
Arabian-Redneck conspiracies

/obscure?


Reminds me of Alex Freeland's music video "We Want Your Soul" lyrics:

Here's Programs, Here's Matters, Here's Britney, Here's Cola
Here's Pizza, Here's TV, Here's some Rock and some Rolla
Watch Commercials, more Commercials, watch Jerry, Not Oprah
Buy a Better Life from The Comfort of Your Sofa
Here's Popcorn, Here's Magazines, Here's Milkshake, Here's Blue Jeans
Here's Padded Bras, Here's Long Cars
Here's Football Shirts, Here's Baseball Caps
Here's Live Talk Shows, Here's Video Games, Here's Cola Lite, Here's Timberlake
Here's Filtertips, Here's Collagen Lips, Here's All Night Bars, Here's Plastic Hips

We Want Your Soul

Go back to bed America, Your Government is in Control Again
Here, Here's American Gladiators
Watch this, shut up

Go back to bed America,
Here's American Gladiators, Here's 56 channels of it
Watch these pituitary retards banging their farking skulls together
And congratulate you on living in the Land of Freedom
Here you are America
 
2013-05-10 12:12:09 PM  

jaybeezey: AFHV has been around a long time. So Ow My Balls is also the past.


The Once and Future Groinattack

People forget mind fogging stuff like "Real People" back in the day also. Or god help us, variety shows.
 
2013-05-10 12:15:30 PM  
I dunno...Solid Gold, Puttin' on the Hitz, the Newlywed Game, the Dating Game, Morton Downey Jr. All media "eras" have great and terrible things at all times. I don't like a lot of TV, but hey. And the Big Bang Theory is just how stupid people think smart people speak.
 
2013-05-10 12:25:52 PM  
Ya'll are tripping. Wipeout is awesome. not as good as it's predecessor MXC. What I think is terrible is any reality show about some kind of crazy wives or brides. I don't really know how much of these shows are real and how much is scripted. The Mob Wives are some ugly, ugly human beings inside and out.
I do think these kind of shows are good tools for young men to learn what kind of women to avoid as mates.
 
2013-05-10 12:40:01 PM  
TV is just ANOTHER thing ruined by unions.

When the writer's strike came around, producers came to the realization that, hey, paying 6 people to try to out-idiot each other is totally freaking cheap compared to a team of writers...

...and reality TV was born.

TLC was once the LEARNING channel, striving for par status with Discovery and the sciency shows on PBS, like Nova. Now they should just change the name to The Carney Channel.
 
2013-05-10 12:44:59 PM  

NostroZ: Egoy3k: NostroZ: Has anyone seen the Hulu exclusive The Online Gamer?
[ecx.images-amazon.com image 500x375]

Watching that show made me give up video games all together.
It really showed it as an addictive angry anti-social behavior, while attempting to be funny.
Not sure if it was the poor writing or that I actually knew people who acted somewhat like that, back in the internet cafe days.
So sad.

So now you watch TV instead?

No, isn't it obvious what I do?  Same as you... Fark
Then I'll watch TV shows online (via Hulu) or Netflix.
Or go outside, run, ride a bike, play some tennis... you know, learned how to get a life o_O


I'd argue that I do all of those things and still play video games. Well I don't play tennis.
 
2013-05-10 12:50:59 PM  
I have to agree with some of the posters here.  Jersey Shore, pseudo BS Alien "documentaries" and Teen moms are hardly the entire picture of television.  We have much better variety nowadays.  There are excellent dramas,

I watch old shows from the 70's and 80's out of nostalgia, but honestly, if you didn't live during that era of the 3 networks plus PBS, you'd probably be thinking what absolute garbage people watched.   The sitcoms were mostly horribly sappy and formula driven. And the dramas were even worse (with a few exceptions).  A Team, Fall Guy, Riptide, Dukes of Hazzard for the kiddies.... jeezus.   And the adults watched Dynasty, Dallas and these variety show specials.  Ugh.

With the exception of the classic sitcom format (which seem to be in a decline) every other genre of TV programming has improved dramatically in quality.
 
2013-05-10 12:56:50 PM  
image2.findagrave.com
Carney Channel? Count me in!
 
2013-05-10 02:03:39 PM  
Count me in with not really getting the whole "watching other people play games" thing. I don't have the time to play all the games I want nowadays, why would u watch someone else play?
 
2013-05-10 02:12:44 PM  

Chainsaw Turd Elf: Ya'll are tripping. Wipeout is awesome. not as good as it's predecessor MXC. What I think is terrible is any reality show about some kind of crazy wives or brides. I don't really know how much of these shows are real and how much is scripted. The Mob Wives are some ugly, ugly human beings inside and out.
I do think these kind of shows are good tools for young men to learn what kind of women to avoid as mates.


Wipeout is Super Mario Bros with out-of-shape Americans.

So yeah, it can be kinda funny sometimes. I don't watch it, but my ex-wife loved it. I caught glimpses and, being human, it's hard to avoid laughing when some fatass does an unintentional triple somersault, bounces off a giant rubber ball, flips backwards two times, and lands face-first in a mud pit.

Sadistic, but satisfying in a "I'm glad I'm not stupid enough to go on that show" kind of way.

Now, TERRIBLE was "Hole In The Wall" (The American version of the Japanese "Tetris" show).  WOW, that was pathetic: Fat people in shiny, skin-tight jumpsuits trying to contort themselves to fit through odd shapes in a foam wall before being knocked into a pool.

static.guim.co.uk

Although sometimes it wasn't so bad...

0.tqn.com

Okay, yeah. It was bad.
 
2013-05-10 02:14:49 PM  

Tumbleweed Garden: Count me in with not really getting the whole "watching other people play games" thing. I don't have the time to play all the games I want nowadays, why would u watch someone else play?


The Koreans actually have ongoing shows and stadium events in which they watch other people play Starcraft for a few hours.

Honestly... I don't get it. The fun of games is playing them; Not watching them being played.
 
2013-05-10 02:21:52 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Tumbleweed Garden: Count me in with not really getting the whole "watching other people play games" thing. I don't have the time to play all the games I want nowadays, why would u watch someone else play?

The Koreans actually have ongoing shows and stadium events in which they watch other people play Starcraft for a few hours.

Honestly... I don't get it. The fun of games is playing them; Not watching them being played.


Depends on the circumstances, people, and the game I would say.

We used to have Super Smash Brothers Melee tournaments in university We'd set it up as 1 vs 1 on a small arena and the people not playing would have just as much fun watching as playing. My wife will sit down and watch some of the big budget PS3 games like Drakes Fortune, Heavy Rain, or Infamous 2. Hell my university roommate once asked me to not play Shadows of the Colossus because he was studying and couldn't stop watching. He was mostly joking but still sometimes people do watch games.
 
2013-05-10 02:26:20 PM  
I'd buy that for a dollar!
 
2013-05-10 02:43:02 PM  
www.headpress.com
Spectacular book. Not in print, I had to get it off e-bay, bit walks you through the history of mondo.

Modern "reality" TV is mondo, pure and simple.
 
2013-05-10 02:55:14 PM  

Egoy3k: Or go outside, run, ride a bike, play some tennis... you know, learned how to get a life o_O

I'd argue that I do all of those things and still play video games. Well I don't play tennis.


That's cool... I used to LOVE video games.
But, single player games got old fast and online multiplayer games are full of people that get joy from flaming onto one another.
I used to play Starcraft all night long on Battle.net, but the new RTS did not match up and the latency issue never got fixed... on top of which, a much younger and less mature crowd got into computer games.

I don't like to spend my free time lecturing kids about how it's rude to go off insulting your own teammates.
So I realized the problem was not games, but it was me... I felt this dark, evil, obsessive force where before it was a feeling of fun exploration and friendly competition.
 
2013-05-10 03:06:06 PM  

BlueDWarrior: The fact it's hard to find a list in English that accurately documents all of the productions before 1998 should say something.
It's like video games, once you get 15 years out it's really hard to remember all the shiatty ones.


Anime News Network seems to do a pretty good job. For example
 
2013-05-10 03:20:37 PM  

Iamanevilcarrot: I can't imagine anything more boring than watching somebody else play a video game baseball. What's the farking point when you can do it?


See? Not so silly now, is it?  Sometimes it's fun to watch others play/enjoy an activity that you like.  No reason to look down on those who enjoy watching these videos.  I don't like watching baseball myself, it bores me to tears. But I wouldn't ridicule those who do watch it.
 
2013-05-10 03:21:55 PM  

SevenizGud: TLC was once the LEARNING channel, striving for par status with Discovery and the sciency shows on PBS, like Nova. Now they should just change the name to The Carney Channel.


I call it The Lobotomy Channel, it keeps the same initials and is accurate.
 
2013-05-10 03:23:07 PM  

Dragonflew: Iamanevilcarrot: I can't imagine anything more boring than watching somebody else play a video game baseball. What's the farking point when you can do it?

See? Not so silly now, is it?  Sometimes it's fun to watch others play/enjoy an activity that you like.  No reason to look down on those who enjoy watching these videos.  I don't like watching baseball myself, it bores me to tears. But I wouldn't ridicule those who do watch it.


I agree... super silly.
I hate spectator sports... be player.

But, I don't dare say that to the masses, they love their TV sports with bloodthirsty devotion.
 
2013-05-10 03:37:10 PM  

Dragonflew: Iamanevilcarrot: I can't imagine anything more boring than watching somebody else play a video game baseball. What's the farking point when you can do it?

See? Not so silly now, is it?  Sometimes it's fun to watch others play/enjoy an activity that you like.  No reason to look down on those who enjoy watching these videos.  I don't like watching baseball myself, it bores me to tears. But I wouldn't ridicule those who do watch it.


It's not quite the same. I can admire pro athletes for physically training their bodies to do things I could never do. What does it take to be a video game pro? Sit in your underwear for 14 hour stretches consuming Mountain Dew and Beef Jerky?
 
2013-05-10 04:01:37 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Tumbleweed Garden: Count me in with not really getting the whole "watching other people play games" thing. I don't have the time to play all the games I want nowadays, why would u watch someone else play?

The Koreans actually have ongoing shows and stadium events in which they watch other people play Starcraft for a few hours.

Honestly... I don't get it. The fun of games is playing them; Not watching them being played.


Yet billions of people watch people play the games of soccer, baseball, football, basketball, hockey, cricket, car racing, golf, and dozen of others every day.
 
2013-05-10 04:05:12 PM  

browntimmy: Dragonflew: Iamanevilcarrot: I can't imagine anything more boring than watching somebody else play a video game baseball. What's the farking point when you can do it?

See? Not so silly now, is it?  Sometimes it's fun to watch others play/enjoy an activity that you like.  No reason to look down on those who enjoy watching these videos.  I don't like watching baseball myself, it bores me to tears. But I wouldn't ridicule those who do watch it.

It's not quite the same. I can admire pro athletes for physically training their bodies to do things I could never do. What does it take to be a video game pro? Sit in your underwear for 14 hour stretches consuming Mountain Dew and Beef Jerky?


A combination of twitch motor skills, hand/eye coordination, knowledge of tactics, etc.  Sure, there's nothing really physical about it, but on the pro level it certainly requires skill beyond mere mortals.
 
2013-05-10 04:24:37 PM  

browntimmy: Dragonflew: Iamanevilcarrot: I can't imagine anything more boring than watching somebody else play a video game baseball. What's the farking point when you can do it?

See? Not so silly now, is it?  Sometimes it's fun to watch others play/enjoy an activity that you like.  No reason to look down on those who enjoy watching these videos.  I don't like watching baseball myself, it bores me to tears. But I wouldn't ridicule those who do watch it.

It's not quite the same. I can admire pro athletes for physically training their bodies to do things I could never do. What does it take to be a video game pro? Sit in your underwear for 14 hour stretches consuming Mountain Dew and Beef Jerky?


I didn't specify pro athletes. I am including amateur, little league, backyard games, whatever. Watching someone else do something that you like to do can be enjoyable, even when not playing yourself. Yet when this activity is video games, the douchebags come out of the woodwork to ridicule and insult them.
 
2013-05-10 04:51:51 PM  
"Yo, are you newbies going to help me capture this flag, or are you just going to stand there with each other's dicks in your hands?"

And those words are just as inspiring today as when that gallant Marine said them at Belleau Wood.
 
2013-05-10 05:49:28 PM  
cache.gawkerassets.com
 
2013-05-10 07:50:01 PM  
Just a reminder that popularity does not ensures quality.

My job as Captain Obvious is done.
 
2013-05-10 08:22:44 PM  
lh6.googleusercontent.com

Miss us yet?
 
2013-05-11 10:38:40 AM  

WTF Indeed: "Lost Boy Generation"? I'm pretty sure the downfall of TV quality is directly related to Reality TV shows geared toward women and middle-aged men who want to relive their glory years. Eg, Baby Boomers.


No network gears their programing to boomers.  They all want the target 18-34 age group.  That is who spends money.  The boomers, or more properly almost anyone over 40, has gotten out of the habit of throwing their money at every pretty thing shown to them on TV.
 
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