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2013-05-10 10:12:58 AM  
Note to Tim -- It's not like Jacksonville has ever had any real use for a good quarterback anyhow.  All those haters will be eating a steady diet of crow after Tebow leads the Calgary Rough Riders to three straight Grey Cup victories, returns to the states and leads the Dolphins to four straight Super Bowl victorys.
 
2013-05-10 10:15:46 AM  
Not a Jags fan, but checked the site out anyway. The Jaguars have not had a quarterback since Mark Brunell.
 
2013-05-10 10:16:03 AM  
He should come out as gay. Then the league will be forced to keep him around for a couple more years, just for the optics.
 
2013-05-10 10:18:14 AM  

Prey4reign: Note to Tim -- It's not like Jacksonville has ever had any real use for a good quarterback anyhow.  All those haters will be eating a steady diet of crow after Tebow leads the Calgary Rough Riders to three straight Grey Cup victories, returns to the states and leads the Dolphins to four straight Super Bowl victorys.


If the Dolphins don't move to L.A. by then. It sounds like there is a legit chance they will.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1630955-dolphins-ceo-says-teams-lo n g-term-future-in-miami-is-bleak">http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1 630955-dolphins-ceo-says-teams-lon g-term-future-in-miami-is-bleak
 
2013-05-10 10:20:06 AM  
FTA:  Obviously it's frustrating to be constantly bombarded by the Tebow-mania. Many die-hard Jaguars fans feel ignored. We feel like our voices are not heard because we tend to sit back and not do anything brash and in-your-face.

You could easily take out the team name and subject, and use this quote with the vast majority of sports teams out there.  In general, the loud, obnoxious, Idiocracy-inspiring, SportsCenter-watching, sports-radio-listening, insulting-teeshirt-wearing crowd are what is running sports these days, and for that matter, ruining them as well.
 
2013-05-10 10:22:01 AM  

kdawg7736: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1630955-dolphins-ceo-says-teams-lo n g-term-future-in-miami-is-bleak">http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1 630955-dolphins-ceo-says-teams-lon g-term-future-in-miami-is-bleak


blah blah blah give us free money for a new stadium that we own blah blah blah fark you we already fell for that with the Marlins pay for it yourself you cheap ass billionaires blah blah blah

NFL will never allow another team to move
 
2013-05-10 10:24:05 AM  

kdawg7736: Not a Jags fan, but checked the site out anyway. The Jaguars have not had a quarterback since Mark Brunell.


That's what I don't understand about this.  I mean, obviously you don't want your team to become a circus, but Tebow is better than Gabbert and the Jags only have one WR anyway - and isn't he suspended for 4 games? - so it's not as if they're going to be a successful passing team.  They could at least play smashmouth, ball control offense and win some games like the Broncos did with Tebow.  And it wouldn't be a long-term solution, just two or three seasons would be enough to get some cash from the UF fans and some offensive talent through the draft before they get a real QB.
 
2013-05-10 10:24:32 AM  
It's not Fark, it's Tebow.com
 
2013-05-10 10:26:04 AM  
Tebow should sue ESPN for creating such a circus around him that no team wants to take a risk of bringing him in.

I think he sucks, but I kinda feel bad for him.  I never really saw him drawing the circus to himself.

But now that every time he farts ESPN creates 10 hours of programming around it, no body wants to even bring him in camp to see if he can play H back or be a wildcat /backup, etc.
 
2013-05-10 10:28:53 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: kdawg7736: Not a Jags fan, but checked the site out anyway. The Jaguars have not had a quarterback since Mark Brunell.

That's what I don't understand about this.  I mean, obviously you don't want your team to become a circus, but Tebow is better than Gabbert and the Jags only have one WR anyway - and isn't he suspended for 4 games? - so it's not as if they're going to be a successful passing team.  They could at least play smashmouth, ball control offense and win some games like the Broncos did with Tebow.  And it wouldn't be a long-term solution, just two or three seasons would be enough to get some cash from the UF fans and some offensive talent through the draft before they get a real QB.


True and yes Justin Blackmon is suspended for four games next year for violating the substance abuse policy.
 
2013-05-10 10:29:05 AM  

Prey4reign: after Tebow leads the Calgary Rough Riders to three straight Grey Cup victories


It's not the Calgary Rough Riders, it's the Quebec Roughriders...  Geesh.
 
2013-05-10 10:30:14 AM  

MugzyBrown: Tebow should sue ESPN for creating such a circus around him that no team wants to take a risk of bringing him in.


Yeah, it's not like he courted such attention...

I think he sucks, but I kinda feel bad for him.  I never really saw him drawing the circus to himself.

Wow, have you seen Kim Kardashian?

But now that every time he farts ESPN creates 10 hours of programming around it, no body wants to even bring him in camp to see if he can play H back or be a wildcat /backup, etc.

Reap, sow, etc...
 
2013-05-10 10:30:28 AM  
This entire article is performance art. It's a giant troll. There are no Jaguars fans.

//Other than Bunny.
 
2013-05-10 10:32:11 AM  
it's a pretty big bandwagon.
 
2013-05-10 10:35:52 AM  
That certainly changes my opinion of Jaguars fans.  For the better.
 
2013-05-10 10:38:29 AM  

Lost Thought 00: kdawg7736: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1630955-dolphins-ceo-says-teams-lo n g-term-future-in-miami-is-bleak">http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1 630955-dolphins-ceo-says-teams-lon g-term-future-in-miami-is-bleak

blah blah blah give us free money for a new stadium that we own blah blah blah fark you we already fell for that with the Marlins pay for it yourself you cheap ass billionaires blah blah blah

NFL will never allow another team to move


The new stadiums are just getting overly excessive, to the point that they're not there for the game, they're there for the experience and the ambiance of being somewhere cool to ignore the fact you just dropped three figures on tickets.  The only thing that will save Sun Life from becoming the (well-deserved, IMHO) pin prick to the stadium building bubble is the fact that, for almost all of modern American sports history, Miami has become synonymous with the "big game" environment, whether it's the Super Bowl or the Orange Bowl or whatever the fark they want to call the new championship game in college football.  The combined might of the NFL, NCAA, the college conferences, the television markets and the convention industry in general will do everything they possibly can to take that pin away.
 
2013-05-10 10:43:00 AM  
If a majority of a group of people agree on something that is factually correct, I hardly call that a "bandwagon."
 
2013-05-10 10:46:24 AM  

Prey4reign: Note to Tim -- It's not like Jacksonville has ever had any real use for a good quarterback anyhow.  All those haters will be eating a steady diet of crow after Tebow leads the Calgary Rough Riders to three straight Grey Cup victories, returns to the states and leads the Dolphins to four straight Super Bowl victorys.


Uh-oh, here come all the Canadians to insist that you have to be a really, really good passer to succeed as a CFL quarterback.  Let's all give them a condescending little pat on the head when they arrive, shall we?
 
2013-05-10 10:48:41 AM  
But we are a Christian nation!!!
 
2013-05-10 10:59:38 AM  
Never fails. Every night on the news its Tebow this and Tebow that. Cant even go to the sports bar without some over zealous Timmy cheerleader spewing some kind of non-sense on how Timmy would sell tickets and fill the stadium. Those same people refuse to understand that Tebow couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat. Same ole BS about him leading the Broncos to the playoffs, just him mind you and not the entire farking team. Now the Ambulance chaser has commercials every 5 farking minutes begging Kahn to put Tebow on the roster cause he's a local hero and you know, fill the stadium.

/exiled to this...city
//Nuke it from orbit...3 times just to be sure
 
2013-05-10 11:18:52 AM  
Jacksonville smells funny.
 
2013-05-10 11:29:30 AM  
Damn it, if only Tim Tebow would stop buying airtime, writing all these "Tim Tebow Sucks" stories, and shoving his face in every camera around, then we wouldn't have to be saturated with Tim Tebow coverage.  He's such a publicity-seeking dick.
 
2013-05-10 11:33:16 AM  

Lost Thought 00: He should come out as gay. Then the league will be forced to keep him around for a couple more years, just for the optics.


Based on how he dresses most of the time, that's why he's around now.
 
2013-05-10 11:33:53 AM  

MugzyBrown: But now that every time he farts ESPN creates 10 hours of programming around it, no body wants to even bring him in camp to see if he can play H back or be a wildcat /backup, etc.


That might have something to do with the fact that Tebow has repeatedly said that he doesn't want to be a backup, and will only play QB, since that's his position. If the dude was willing to admit to himself that he's athletically gifted but might not have what it takes to play QB in the NFL, he might get a shot somewhere doing something else.
 
2013-05-10 11:36:57 AM  
I honestly don't get the Tim Tebow hate. He hasn't shined, but he hasn't failed yet either.

/give him a chance, Ralph.
 
2013-05-10 11:45:53 AM  

Crewmannumber6: but he hasn't failed yet either.


???

Oh riiiiight he just wins, he actually plays all 22 starting positions and his limitations at qb are made up by his ability to play safety.
 
2013-05-10 12:08:52 PM  

farbekrieg: Crewmannumber6: but he hasn't failed yet either.

???

Oh riiiiight he just wins, he actually plays all 22 starting positions and his limitations at qb are made up by his ability to play safety.


Did I say that cocksucker? No, I said the guy hasn't sucked when  he has played.

/or if you want, we can talk about it outside
 
2013-05-10 12:20:21 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: but Tebow is better than Gabbert and the Jags only have one WR anyway - and isn't he suspended for 4 games?



Actually.  The WR core is prob the best we've seen since Smith/Mccardell.   Even with Dumbass suspended for 4 games, Cecil shorts is emerging as a slipper big play receiver.  Massequoi is going to be a good compliment.  Ace Sanders looked REALLY good in minicamp before he tweaked a groin.   I think Tobias Palmer will even be a contributor in the 4 man scheme.  I hate to get excited before the season but I actually believe our WR core is good.

I do agree about Blaine.  I'll try my best to support him, and I hope he comes out and plays like I think he has the talent to, I just have a hard time putting my trust in him.  I like Matt Scott, and I think he will push Blaine.  I'd like to see us keep only 1 of (Gabbert/Henne) Scott as backup.   run with 2 QB's for a while, Denard/Blackmon emergency.

I would support Tebow coming here even though I don't think he is a great QB.  He will put buts in seats. Sell merch, get national attention, its just the 5 year vet league minimum is a little more than we can afford on publicity --
 
2013-05-10 12:22:21 PM  

Crewmannumber6: farbekrieg: Crewmannumber6: but he hasn't failed yet either.

???

Oh riiiiight he just wins, he actually plays all 22 starting positions and his limitations at qb are made up by his ability to play safety.

Did I say that cocksucker? No, I said the guy hasn't sucked when  he has played.

/or if you want, we can talk about it outside


I'm gonna kick your ass during gym!
 
2013-05-10 12:27:47 PM  

Crewmannumber6: I honestly don't get the Tim Tebow hate. He hasn't shined, but he hasn't failed yet either.

/give him a chance, Ralph.


The Omaha Beef are interested...
 
2013-05-10 12:30:10 PM  

moriarty23: Crewmannumber6: farbekrieg: Crewmannumber6: but he hasn't failed yet either.

???

Oh riiiiight he just wins, he actually plays all 22 starting positions and his limitations at qb are made up by his ability to play safety.

Did I say that cocksucker? No, I said the guy hasn't sucked when  he has played.

/or if you want, we can talk about it outside

I'm gonna kick your ass during gym!


Probably, my fighting stance is the fetal position
 
2013-05-10 12:42:50 PM  

grinding_journalist: MugzyBrown: But now that every time he farts ESPN creates 10 hours of programming around it, no body wants to even bring him in camp to see if he can play H back or be a wildcat /backup, etc.

That might have something to do with the fact that Tebow has repeatedly said that he doesn't want to be a backup, and will only play QB, since that's his position. If the dude was willing to admit to himself that he's athletically gifted but might not have what it takes to play QB in the NFL, he might get a shot somewhere doing something else.


He doesn't have the skill set to play anywhere else.  He has terrible hands so TE is out and he isn't fast enough to play RB.  All that's left is FB, which few teams use anymore and even then he's not really suited for it.  This isn't Eric Crouch-like arrogance, it's more like he only has one position that he can really play in the NFL.
 
2013-05-10 12:59:32 PM  
We're so close to all this Tebow garbage being over. Even some of the die-hard Tebros on Jax local AM radio are saying that he's done. Soooooooooooo close, yet soooooooooo far.
 
2013-05-10 01:01:40 PM  
i wouldn't be surprised if any of the florida pro football teams move to other cities

also can't believe how much skip bayless bags on jordan rodgers just to forsake tim tebow... that's some petty bullshiat there
 
2013-05-10 01:37:10 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: kdawg7736: Not a Jags fan, but checked the site out anyway. The Jaguars have not had a quarterback since Mark Brunell.

That's what I don't understand about this.  I mean, obviously you don't want your team to become a circus, but Tebow is better than Gabbert and the Jags only have one WR anyway - and isn't he suspended for 4 games? - so it's not as if they're going to be a successful passing team.  They could at least play smashmouth, ball control offense and win some games like the Broncos did with Tebow.  And it wouldn't be a long-term solution, just two or three seasons would be enough to get some cash from the UF fans and some offensive talent through the draft before they get a real QB.


Jacksonville seems set to be a disaster for a while anyways. I'm not sure if Tebow would really make it any worse.

Gabbert's a QB I pity a little, to the extent I can pity people paid millions for sports. He's the youngest QB ever to start. He didn't play that long in college in a shotgun formation, and was even out his whole senior of high school due to injury. He's just raw and playing for a shiatty team with no time to get up to speed like his background sort of screamed he needed. He was QB for my undergrad, and damn he had an arm. I wouldn't be surprised if he washes out for a bit and does the understudy thing for a bit.
 
2013-05-10 02:44:06 PM  

Crewmannumber6: farbekrieg: Crewmannumber6: but he hasn't failed yet either.

???

Oh riiiiight he just wins, he actually plays all 22 starting positions and his limitations at qb are made up by his ability to play safety.

Did I say that cocksucker? No, I said the guy hasn't sucked when  he has played.

/or if you want, we can talk about it outside


Unable to contain yourself eh? You want to not only showcase your lack of understanding of pro football but wanted to expend the legend and be a homophobe as well? Congratulations accept your award I'm sure you have a speech all lined up and everything.

www.awardsmall.com
 
2013-05-10 02:45:40 PM  
It's been since last football season that I have visited the sports tab, and there are STILL 2 Tebow greenlit articles on a day!?

Has this been going on for over a year now?
 
2013-05-10 03:09:43 PM  

plcow: It's been since last football season that I have visited the sports tab, and there are STILL 2 Tebow greenlit articles on a day!?

Has this been going on for over a year now?


Only recently.  We went several glorious months Tebow free, but that time is now over.
 
2013-05-10 03:34:05 PM  
anyone know his won-loss record in the pros?  before they played the Pats in the playoffs it was 8-4.  Has there ever been a quarterback with a .667 winning record who didn't get the chance to play himself out of a job?
 
2013-05-10 04:10:58 PM  
Like our general manager said, there is no place in Jacksonville for Tebow. "Even if he is released." No one put butts in seats the two times he played in Jax, they're not gonna do it if he Mae it on the team either.
 
2013-05-10 04:29:15 PM  

Crewmannumber6: No, I said the guy hasn't sucked when he has played.


I disagree, IMO he sucked horribly.  The defense propped that team up, and Tebow managed to eek out just enough late-game competence to make himself seem like a "clutch" QB.  If the Broncos hadn't played such good D it would have been too little too late, and everybody would be talking about how he can't hit a wide open receiver to save his soul.  In his only almost-full season as a QB with Denver, his Quarterback Rating was less than 30 and he completed fewer than 50% of his passes.  By virtually any measure, that sucks.
 
2013-05-10 04:35:04 PM  

Prey4reign: Note to Tim -- It's not like Jacksonville has ever had any real use for a good quarterback anyhow.  All those haters will be eating a steady diet of crow after Tebow leads the Calgary Rough Riders to three straight Grey Cup victories, returns to the states and leads the Dolphins to four straight Super Bowl victorys.


I don't like Tim Tebow, but if you're REALLY saying that he'll lead the Dolphins to four straight Super Bowl victories.....then OK, I'm in.
 
2013-05-10 04:40:09 PM  

stir22: anyone know his won-loss record in the pros?  before they played the Pats in the playoffs it was 8-4.  Has there ever been a quarterback with a .667 winning record who didn't get the chance to play himself out of a job?


vince young
 
2013-05-10 04:55:10 PM  

AdamK: i wouldn't be surprised if any of the florida pro football teams move to other cities

also can't believe how much skip bayless bags on jordan rodgers just to forsake tim tebow... that's some petty bullshiat there


Aaron's little brother?  Bayless doesn't' like him?  I know he's widely regarded as a dick but I thought he'd be a little loyal to a fellow Commodore.

I don't watch ESPN, except for some live events.
 
2013-05-10 05:00:45 PM  
Wow...  luckily I`m in Canada so I don`t get ESPN...  that grown man who`s inexplicably named "Skip" is delusional.  He thinks that Tebow might be the one piece missing for the Jags to be a Superbowl contender?
 
2013-05-10 05:05:46 PM  

stir22: anyone know his won-loss record in the pros?  before they played the Pats in the playoffs it was 8-4.  Has there ever been a quarterback with a .667 winning record who didn't get the chance to play himself out of a job?


It's almost like football is a team sport, and pinning wins/losses on one guy is a flawed way of analyzing performance.

Every passing metric says he's awful. Anyone who's ever seriously studied quarterback mechanics will tell you he's bad. It's noticeable to everyone who's ever watched football that he's not very good at throwing the ball. If you're a coach in the NFL, you want to have a quarterback who you have some faith in, knowing that he can run the offense you want to run. Tim Tebow cannot run an NFL offense the way any existing head coach wants to run it. Even in Denver, the offense was changed by Fox in order to accommodate him (and before they did that, Tebow was hilariously awful). And even when they changed it, they weren't that great offensively (they lead the league in three-and-outs, were generally terrible at scoring, and Tebow had a miserable 1-1 TD/turnover ratio). There is no coach that is looking to implement a college-style offense in the NFL because there's a lot of very good reasons to suspect it wouldn't work.

Tim Tebow couldn't supplant Mark Sanchez in New York. Think about that. They chose to go to Greg McElroy before Tebow, because Rex Ryan saw how awful Tim Tebow was at being a pro style NFL quarterback in practice every week. His teammates saw it too, and they commented on it to the press. Anyone who knows football knows why Tim Tebow should probably remain unemployed by the NFL.
 
2013-05-10 05:06:30 PM  

stir22: anyone know his won-loss record in the pros?  before they played the Pats in the playoffs it was 8-4.  Has there ever been a quarterback with a .667 winning record who didn't get the chance to play himself out of a job?


No. His W-L record as a starter in the NFL is 10-8. 9-7 if you don't count playoff games.(Unless you were talking about just the year that he took over for Orton. In that case he was 8-5 that season.) Couple that with his ultra-low career completion percentage in a league which values the passing game above all else, along with his refusal to attempt playing at another position and the traveling shiat show that comes with him - its no surprise that nobody has jumped at the chance to pick him up.
 
2013-05-10 05:22:17 PM  

stir22: anyone know his won-loss record in the pros?  before they played the Pats in the playoffs it was 8-4.  Has there ever been a quarterback with a .667 winning record who didn't get the chance to play himself out of a job?


Alex Smith, who is a million times the QB Tebow is.

lacydog: stir22: anyone know his won-loss record in the pros?  before they played the Pats in the playoffs it was 8-4.  Has there ever been a quarterback with a .667 winning record who didn't get the chance to play himself out of a job?

It's almost like football is a team sport, and pinning wins/losses on one guy is a flawed way of analyzing performance.

Every passing metric says he's awful. Anyone who's ever seriously studied quarterback mechanics will tell you he's bad. It's noticeable to everyone who's ever watched football that he's not very good at throwing the ball. If you're a coach in the NFL, you want to have a quarterback who you have some faith in, knowing that he can run the offense you want to run. Tim Tebow cannot run an NFL offense the way any existing head coach wants to run it. Even in Denver, the offense was changed by Fox in order to accommodate him (and before they did that, Tebow was hilariously awful). And even when they changed it, they weren't that great offensively (they lead the league in three-and-outs, were generally terrible at scoring, and Tebow had a miserable 1-1 TD/turnover ratio). There is no coach that is looking to implement a college-style offense in the NFL because there's a lot of very good reasons to suspect it wouldn't work.

Tim Tebow couldn't supplant Mark Sanchez in New York. Think about that. They chose to go to Greg McElroy before Tebow, because Rex Ryan saw how awful Tim Tebow was at being a pro style NFL quarterback in practice every week. His teammates saw it too, and they commented on it to the press. Anyone who knows football knows why Tim Tebow should probably remain unemployed by the NFL.


Oh, and that.
 
2013-05-10 05:27:23 PM  

lacydog: stir22: anyone know his won-loss record in the pros?  before they played the Pats in the playoffs it was 8-4.  Has there ever been a quarterback with a .667 winning record who didn't get the chance to play himself out of a job?

It's almost like football is a team sport, and pinning wins/losses on one guy is a flawed way of analyzing performance.

Every passing metric says he's awful. Anyone who's ever seriously studied quarterback mechanics will tell you he's bad. It's noticeable to everyone who's ever watched football that he's not very good at throwing the ball. If you're a coach in the NFL, you want to have a quarterback who you have some faith in, knowing that he can run the offense you want to run. Tim Tebow cannot run an NFL offense the way any existing head coach wants to run it. Even in Denver, the offense was changed by Fox in order to accommodate him (and before they did that, Tebow was hilariously awful). And even when they changed it, they weren't that great offensively (they lead the league in three-and-outs, were generally terrible at scoring, and Tebow had a miserable 1-1 TD/turnover ratio). There is no coach that is looking to implement a college-style offense in the NFL because there's a lot of very good reasons to suspect it wouldn't work.

Tim Tebow couldn't supplant Mark Sanchez in New York. Think about that. They chose to go to Greg McElroy before Tebow, because Rex Ryan saw how awful Tim Tebow was at being a pro style NFL quarterback in practice every week. His teammates saw it too, and they commented on it to the press. Anyone who knows football knows why Tim Tebow should probably remain unemployed by the NFL.


oh, i agree with you...it's not that i don't.  it's just that there have been so many godawful qb's in the nfl whose career records have been akin to 16-40 that i'm surprised tebow hasn't been allowed to play himself out of a job.  personally, i could care less about him...never really been a tebow fan.  just surprises me.
 
2013-05-10 05:33:06 PM  

EqualOpportunityEnslaver: stir22: anyone know his won-loss record in the pros?  before they played the Pats in the playoffs it was 8-4.  Has there ever been a quarterback with a .667 winning record who didn't get the chance to play himself out of a job?

No. His W-L record as a starter in the NFL is 10-8. 9-7 if you don't count playoff games.(Unless you were talking about just the year that he took over for Orton. In that case he was 8-5 that season.) Couple that with his ultra-low career completion percentage in a league which values the passing game above all else, along with his refusal to attempt playing at another position and the traveling shiat show that comes with him - its no surprise that nobody has jumped at the chance to pick him up.


Bah. Ignore that 10-8 part, that's wrong. The 9-7 figure includes the playoffs. The rest is valid though.
 
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