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2013-05-10 07:22:41 AM  

big pig peaches: In the next century I wonder what they will be asking that question about. Antibiotics probably.


If it's antibiotics, there won't be anyone left to ask those questions.
 
2013-05-10 07:35:06 AM  
*reads headline*

So, germ-free end to end?
 
2013-05-10 07:36:57 AM  

StrikitRich: And today we continue to pollute our precious bodily fluids with fluoride, which is slightly radioactive.


It is?  Not in any way I can think of, either pure ion fluoride or the fluoride salts we use in public water supplies.
 
2013-05-10 07:44:39 AM  
What were are we thinking?

i41.tinypic.com
 
2013-05-10 07:51:03 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Shoe Fluoroscope. Just in case your kid is lying about the shoes fitting just so he can get out of the damn shoe store.
http://www.museumofquackery.com/devices/shoexray.htm
 
2013-05-10 07:56:26 AM  

StrikitRich: And today we continue to pollute our precious bodily fluids with fluoride, which is slightly radioactive.


Shut up, mandrake.
 
2013-05-10 07:59:04 AM  

StrikitRich: And today we continue to pollute our precious bodily fluids with fluoride, which is slightly radioactive.


You may want to stop listening to your crazy uncle Frank and his nutty conspiracy theories.
 
2013-05-10 08:04:06 AM  
img1.etsystatic.com

Uranium really picks up your morning cup of coffee
 
2013-05-10 08:04:28 AM  

chrylis: if we're going to have a massive bureaucracy telling us what sorts of things we can and can't put in our body regardless of how well-informed we are



That's not what the FDA does.  The FDA tells companies what they may or may not sell for profit under the guise of a beneficial product, and how it must be labeled for consumer information.

If you personally still want to go eat a handful of radium pellets, the FDA doesn't give a crap.
 
2013-05-10 08:05:11 AM  

Oldiron_79: See what happens when people blindly believe science with religious zeal.


Um, no.  That's not what this article shows at all.
 
2013-05-10 08:07:42 AM  

StrikitRich: And today we continue to pollute our precious bodily fluids with fluoride, which is slightly radioactive.


I call BS: Fluorine occurs naturally on Earth exclusively in the form of its only stable isotope, 19F.
 
2013-05-10 08:07:49 AM  

UsikFark: pellies: Are you implying that no oversight has a better history?

Industry will voluntarily correct their actions after education about regulations. Companies large and small adhere to best practices.


You sound like you have never worked before
 
2013-05-10 08:07:54 AM  
I'm thinking that in a century we'll (well, "you", I'll be dead from shoe fluoroscopy) be saying the same kind of thing about GMO / Frankenfoods
"WTF were we thinking?"
 
2013-05-10 08:09:42 AM  
Why the hell do we need the FDA in our business? Food safety should be market driven. If a particular product turns out to cause rectal bleeding, bones loss, or chronic death, people will stop buying those products, and the companies will lose money. There is no company interested in killing their customers because dead/disabled customers don't buy their product. So it's in a company's best interest to produce the safest product possible. People didn't understand the dangers of radium back then. You can't fault a company for that. Are they supposed to do years of product safety testing on something no one understands while their competitor beats them to market?

Look at tabacco. At the time, it was believed to be good for you, according to science of the day. Many doctors agreed that it was actualy benificial. In the 50s, when people started to question the safety of cigarettes, the companies did the right thing, and hired doctors and scientists to test their product to see if it was safe, and they all found it was. Now that we know better, tobacco companies have taken steps to ensure a safer smoke, by adding filters and soothing menthol.
 
2013-05-10 08:12:36 AM  

bring to a festering boil: "Don't take our word for it. Ask this satisfied customer what he thinks."

"Arrrgh!"
[www.robertswartwood.com image 400x282]


Heeeeeeeepppppppp meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee   heeeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppp meeeeeeeeeee
 
2013-05-10 08:13:09 AM  
Fearmongering at it's finest.

Here's a few other things that are still radioactive...
Granite (A trip to Washington DC is the equivalent of a chest x-ray which explains why our politicians are so damned stupid)
Orange ceramic glaze will give a geiger counter an aneurysm.
Your partner (yes, your sleeping partner gives you a significant dose or Potassium 40 radiation over an extended period of time.)
Space
Your basement
 
2013-05-10 08:23:10 AM  

computerguyUT: Fearmongering at it's finest.

Here's a few other things that are still radioactive...
Granite (A trip to Washington DC is the equivalent of a chest x-ray which explains why our politicians are so damned stupid)
Orange ceramic glaze will give a geiger counter an aneurysm.
Your partner (yes, your sleeping partner gives you a significant dose or Potassium 40 radiation over an extended period of time.)
Space
Your basement


living in Utah. nuclear tests from nevada irradiated the southwest significantly. bonus to those downwind from dugway, who got bioweapons, as well. ... and well, the brainwashing of the Church... this is a great place.
 
2013-05-10 08:24:44 AM  

computerguyUT: Fearmongering at it's finest.

Here's a few other things that are still radioactive...
Granite (A trip to Washington DC is the equivalent of a chest x-ray which explains why our politicians are so damned stupid)
Orange ceramic glaze will give a geiger counter an aneurysm.
Your partner (yes, your sleeping partner gives you a significant dose or Potassium 40 radiation over an extended period of time.)
Space
Your basement


Some Granite
Only the Fiestaware from the 40s
"over an extended period of time" can be applied to most things
I am not going into space
Some basements

You did the opposite of the article: over-pooh-poohed radiation. We have radiation in our environment all around us. Deliberately putting products designed to have a significant radioactive dose on or in your body is generally not a good idea.

Fun fact: alpha radiation is completely harmless if external to the body. Ingested, it is THE most dangerous radioactive particle.
 
2013-05-10 08:24:46 AM  
I wish they still sold these:
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-05-10 08:27:09 AM  

Lawnchair: StrikitRich: And today we continue to pollute our precious bodily fluids with fluoride, which is slightly radioactive.

It is?  Not in any way I can think of, either pure ion fluoride or the fluoride salts we use in public water supplies.


RoxtarRyan: StrikitRich: And today we continue to pollute our precious bodily fluids with fluoride, which is slightly radioactive.

You may want to stop listening to your crazy uncle Frank and his nutty conspiracy theories.


Fritriac: StrikitRich: And today we continue to pollute our precious bodily fluids with fluoride, which is slightly radioactive.

I call BS: Fluorine occurs naturally on Earth exclusively in the form of its only stable isotope, 19F.


You're all assuming that pure Fluoride is being used in the water and not Fluoride that came as a by-product of 1940s-50s atomic bomb manufacture.

hardinparamedic: StrikitRich: And today we continue to pollute our precious bodily fluids with fluoride, which is slightly radioactive.

Shut up, mandrake.


You get the Wins for recognizing the joke.
 
2013-05-10 08:27:45 AM  
I read the headline without the comma between chocolate and suppositories. I was briefly intrigued.
 
2013-05-10 08:28:10 AM  

scottydoesntknow: That's what you get for trusting items with this seal of approval:

[th08.deviantart.net image 407x403]


done in two
 
2013-05-10 08:31:16 AM  

MythDragon: Why the hell do we need the FDA in our business? Food safety should be market driven. If a particular product turns out to cause rectal bleeding, bones loss, or chronic death, people will stop buying those products, and the companies will lose money. There is no company interested in killing their customers because dead/disabled customers don't buy their product. So it's in a company's best interest to produce the safest product possible. People didn't understand the dangers of radium back then. You can't fault a company for that. Are they supposed to do years of product safety testing on something no one understands while their competitor beats them to market?

Look at tabacco. At the time, it was believed to be good for you, according to science of the day. Many doctors agreed that it was actualy benificial. In the 50s, when people started to question the safety of cigarettes, the companies did the right thing, and hired doctors and scientists to test their product to see if it was safe, and they all found it was. Now that we know better, tobacco companies have taken steps to ensure a safer smoke, by adding filters and soothing menthol.


see also: Chinese factory conditions. is this really where you want your son/daughter working. are these really the products you want to take?
 
2013-05-10 08:31:57 AM  
Science takes time. We are the test subjects.
 
2013-05-10 08:32:05 AM  
I had a relative who put the numbers on wrist-watches. She would have been a cousin of my grandmother. They would lick the paintbrush to get a fine twist. Her mouth glowed in the dark.
 
2013-05-10 08:34:25 AM  

docmattic: Why am I reading about this on FARK instead of Raddit?


on the part of your browser that has the 'http:// blah blah fark blah' you have to put 'reddit' instead, bro.
 
2013-05-10 08:35:01 AM  
This genuinely bothers me.  Back in the day when we were first getting out noggins around radiation, we could easily see all the benefits of it's uses but failed to have the caution and foresight to see it's negative effects.  We failed to see the negative effects of radiation, what is now known as one of the more dangerous things a human can encounter.  What other negative effects of new technology, chemicals, and other human-engineered substances have we overlooked for the sake of its supposed benefits?
 
2013-05-10 08:36:03 AM  

MythDragon: Why the hell do we need the FDA in our business? Food safety should be market driven. If a particular product turns out to cause rectal bleeding, bones loss, or chronic death, people will stop buying those products, and the companies will lose money. There is no company interested in killing their customers because dead/disabled customers don't buy their product. So it's in a company's best interest to produce the safest product possible. People didn't understand the dangers of radium back then. You can't fault a company for that. Are they supposed to do years of product safety testing on something no one understands while their competitor beats them to market?

Look at tabacco. At the time, it was believed to be good for you, according to science of the day. Many doctors agreed that it was actualy benificial. In the 50s, when people started to question the safety of cigarettes, the companies did the right thing, and hired doctors and scientists to test their product to see if it was safe, and they all found it was. Now that we know better, tobacco companies have taken steps to ensure a safer smoke, by adding filters and soothing menthol.


9.5/10. You are not quite Pocket Ninja, but no one can be.
 
2013-05-10 08:38:36 AM  

TheGogmagog: I wish they still sold these:
[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 232x218]


you'd think they could come up with a way to paint those dials without giving radium jaw to a bunch of girls.
 
2013-05-10 08:39:30 AM  

hardinparamedic: big pig peaches: In the next century I wonder what they will be asking that question about. Antibiotics probably.

Except that, unlike gratuitous and non targeted use of radiation, antibiotics have literally saved trillions of lives around the world.

In 1900, 5 of the 10 top causes of Death in the United States were from infectious disease.

In 1939, when Antibiotics began to be widely used, but before the widespread use of Penicillin, Pneumonia was still the 5th leading cause of Death.


Meant to say antimicrobial...the antibacterial products.

Of course I could still  argue about prophylactic use of Antibiotics in cattles farming which is, how you put it "gratuitous and non targeted"
 
2013-05-10 08:41:04 AM  

MythDragon: Why the hell do we need the FDA in our business? Food safety should be market driven. If a particular product turns out to cause rectal bleeding, bones loss, or chronic death, people will stop buying those products, and the companies will lose money. There is no company interested in killing their customers because dead/disabled customers don't buy their product. So it's in a company's best interest to produce the safest product possible. People didn't understand the dangers of radium back then. You can't fault a company for that. Are they supposed to do years of product safety testing on something no one understands while their competitor beats them to market?

Look at tabacco. At the time, it was believed to be good for you, according to science of the day. Many doctors agreed that it was actualy benificial. In the 50s, when people started to question the safety of cigarettes, the companies did the right thing, and hired doctors and scientists to test their product to see if it was safe, and they all found it was. Now that we know better, tobacco companies have taken steps to ensure a safer smoke, by adding filters and soothing menthol.


Absolutely beautiful.

So, what if it causes explosive diarrhea with no prior warning?
 
2013-05-10 08:43:28 AM  
When I was a kid in the 1950s we used to mold and play with lead soldiers and balls of mercury.

It didn't do anything harmful to me.  It didn't do anything harmful to me.  It didn't do anything harmful to me.  It didn't do anything harmful to me. It didn't do anything harmful to me. It didn't do anything harmful to me. It didn't do anything harmful to me. It didn't do anything harmful to me. It didn't do anything harmful to me. It didn't do anything harmful to me. It didn't do anything harmful to me. It didn't do anything harmful to me. It didn't do anything harmful to me. It didn't do anything harmful to me. It didn't do anything harmful to me. It didn't do anything harmful to me. It didn't do anything harmful to me.
 
2013-05-10 08:44:20 AM  
lh3.googleusercontent.com

For the young scientist...
 
2013-05-10 08:46:11 AM  
Well of course you need radioactivity in toothpaste. How else would you get your teeth to glow like this?

img.fark.net
 
2013-05-10 08:53:41 AM  

No Time To Explain: Pointy Tail of Satan: And how we have homeopathy, chiropractors, and Jenny McCarthy to deal with. Bad crap never goes away, it just changes it's spots.

I kinda wish those clowns would do a revival of these relics of insanity/ignorance

/it would give many the glow the so deserve
//and free Darwin Award for any customers
///11th purchase is free


Colloidal silver. Many quack "doctors" still push this crap. It actually turns your skin blue grey if you take too much.
 
2013-05-10 08:54:05 AM  

StrikitRich: You're all assuming that pure Fluoride is being used in the water and not Fluoride that came as a by-product of 1940s-50s atomic bomb manufacture.


The longest lived synthetic isotope of fluorine is 18Fl, half-life of 110 minutes. After 50 years, we're talking 2^(-239,000) concentrations.

 For comparison's sake, if the entire visible universe (~10^82 molecules, give or take a few orders of magnitude) were made of  18Fl atoms, we'd expect there to be no  18Fl atoms anywhere in roughly 21 days.
 
2013-05-10 08:54:14 AM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-10 09:01:52 AM  

big pig peaches: Of course I could still  argue about prophylactic use of Antibiotics in cattles farming which is, how you put it "gratuitous and non targeted"


Agree completely.
 
2013-05-10 09:04:16 AM  

DubtodaIll: This genuinely bothers me.  Back in the day when we were first getting out noggins around radiation, we could easily see all the benefits of it's uses but failed to have the caution and foresight to see it's negative effects.  We failed to see the negative effects of radiation, what is now known as one of the more dangerous things a human can encounter.  What other negative effects of new technology, chemicals, and other human-engineered substances have we overlooked for the sake of its supposed benefits?


The over 300 toxic chemicals used in fracking.
 
2013-05-10 09:11:27 AM  

UsikFark: pellies: Are you implying that no oversight has a better history?

Industry will voluntarily correct their actions after education about regulations. Companies large and small adhere to best practices.


The best practices you speak of are the ones best for making money.
 
2013-05-10 09:11:36 AM  
What about using x-ray machines to fit shoes. Don't worry, Dr. Al knows what he's doing:


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-05-10 09:13:28 AM  

UsikFark: Cases like NECC are supposed to be reminders of the oddball stuff people do despite the gov't's regulations.


Yeah, their wafers suck.
 
2013-05-10 09:14:00 AM  

MythDragon: Look at tabacco. At the time, it was believed to be good for you, according to science of the day.


Have you not reason then to bee ashamed, and to forbeare this filthie noveltie, so basely grounded, so foolishly received and so grossely mistaken in the right use thereof? In your abuse thereof sinning against God, harming your selves both in persons and goods, and raking also thereby the markes and notes of vanitie upon you: by the custome thereof making your selves to be wondered at by all forraine civil Nations, and by all strangers that come among you, to be scorned and contemned. A custome lothsome to the eye, hatefull to the Nose, harmefull to the braine, dangerous to the Lungs, and in the blacke stinking fume thereof, neerest resembling the horrible Stigian smoke of the pit that is bottomelesse.
James VI and I, A Counterblaste to Tobacco, 1604.

/I saw what you did there, by the way.
 
2013-05-10 09:26:06 AM  
Hmmm, so now the 20th century is being all lumped together and taken as a whole. We went from Rickety airplanes to landing on the moon and permanent space stations during those 100 years. The headline just struck me, that by saying "last century" it could have happened in 1999 and not pre-1945. Big difference.
 
2013-05-10 09:29:48 AM  
Suppositories?
Well bite my shiny flesh ass.
 
2013-05-10 10:04:00 AM  
I have carried a tritium powered light on my keychain for the last eight years.

/had a radium dial watch for a good part of my geeky youth
//had a bag of uranium sand in my underwear drawer from about 1980-1993
 
2013-05-10 10:10:36 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: 9.5/10. You are not quite Pocket Ninja, but no one can be.


I also hope to one day sit at the big boy table with spentmiles


hardinparamedic: So, what if it causes explosive diarrhea with no prior warning?



How does a company think the side effect of "anal leakage" is okay?

From the internet (I forget the origins):
DO NOT EAT PRINGLES FAT FREE POTATO CHIPS. THEY WILL GREASE YOUR ASS.
Don't even farking say a word. I like potato chips, and can't eat them very much or I'll get fat.

I tried out these Pringles Fat-Free chips because they were super low-cal. BBQ flavor. the fark.

The can said they had 70 calories per serving, which meant the whole can had 490 calories inside total. I could munch through a can in a day with my lunch, dinner, etc. So I got several cans, and began enjoying one a day for the past four days. But what they dont farking tell you...

Except in tiny print you cant read without a farking electron microscope

...is that the primary ingredient is something called "olean" which I have since learned is Latin for "Unwashable & Indestructible Ass Grease."

Oh Yeah. I'm not even kidding.

So today, while I'm standing in the living room debating whether or not Laundry or Dishes will get done first, I get the urge to fart. I live alone, so sweet. I let the honk loose and its wrong. Something just sounded wrong. I know my own wind, and I have never farted a sound that sounded like a fart wrapped in a pillow.

Oh yes, something was very wrong. I had just shat myself. But this evil olean makes shiatting yourself sound almost like a regular fart, and had I not been particularly attentive, it could easily have gone unnoticed, I'm telling you. THAT's how utterly covert and evil this olean stuff is. What the fark?! What if I'd gone out to hang with friends or gone for a drive, what then?

So I walk carefully to the bathroom and disrobe. before I even sit on the toilet, I wad paper and carefully wipe from the front. Sure enough, it was light brown, and had the texture of soft spackle. You farking Pringle bastards.

I sat down and pushed a bit, and lo, out came a jet that I didnt even feel an urge for one minute earlier. It piled in the bowl like brown marshmallow fluff.

The problem rose when I tried to wipe. I went through a whole farking roll of TP and could not get it all off me. So.

I jumped in the shower. Yep, its gross, but it had to be done. There I stood, water pouring down, cheeks spread, and using my own hand to make certain I'm clean.

That was when I discovered that after using my hand to wipe myself (before I soaped the area) my hand came back covered in some sort of transparent grease. It was so farking foul. The grease made water bead off my hand. It was tacky too, and very difficult to manage.

So I grabbed the bar of saop and went to work.

You farking Pringle bastards.

The bar of soap came away coated in grease as well, and would no longer wash. I had to turn the water to hot and massage the soap for five minutes to get it to the point where I could use it again. It took me an hour to get the farking grease off my pucker. I shudder to think of what its doing INSIDE ME right now, but I will damned sure never eat that shiat again.
 
2013-05-10 10:10:57 AM  

ElPresidente: You can still have fun with radioactivity today.  Go out and buy a big bag of Brazil nuts (which are seeds BTW, not nuts) and take them with you in your pocket to the visitors centre of any nuclear power plant and watch what happens - Brazil nuts are naturally radioactive and have a half-life of 1.2 billion years - you'll be saying "unplanned scrub shower" before you know it.  Bananas are also radioactive but not quite as likely to set off radiation alarms.


If the isotope has a half life of 1.2 billion years, it's not going to set off too many alarms, is it?  From what I can tell brazil nuts contain radium, which has a half life of 1601 years per wikipedia.
 
2013-05-10 10:12:07 AM  
Radioactive products from the last century: toothpaste, chocolate, suppositories.

s3.amazonaws.com
This looks like it could fit up your ass.

/or down it
//whatever
///Choco Ass-Paste: for that healthy glow that says you just started an anti-Putin radio station
 
2013-05-10 10:28:56 AM  
And yet we still voluntarily ingest flouride 

Fritriac: StrikitRich: And today we continue to pollute our precious bodily fluids with fluoride, which is slightly radioactive.

I call BS: Fluorine occurs naturally on Earth exclusively in the form of its only stable isotope, 19F.


Yes, because anything that occurs naturally on Earth is safe for human consumption.
 
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