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2013-05-09 08:01:07 PM
Radium Hand Cleaner - "It Takes Off Everything But The Skin"Give it time. The skin will eventually follow.
 
2013-05-09 08:25:39 PM
That's what you get for trusting items with this seal of approval:

th08.deviantart.net
 
2013-05-09 08:29:51 PM

"Don't take our word for it. Ask this satisfied customer what he thinks."

"Arrrgh!"
www.robertswartwood.com
 
2013-05-09 10:32:45 PM
behance.vo.llnwd.net
 
2013-05-10 12:00:20 AM
See kids? this is how language evolves

/100 years ago, "It's rad!" had an entirely different meaning
 
2013-05-10 01:16:08 AM
List fails without radioactive fiesta ware.
 
2013-05-10 02:00:31 AM

TheHighlandHowler: List fails without radioactive fiesta ware.


Or uranium glass.

Of course most of it is safe and barely radioactive. You have more to fear from lead glazes...
 
2013-05-10 02:25:00 AM
And people wonder why the FDA is necessary.

I tend to believe people who say that got an F in history class
 
2013-05-10 04:36:33 AM
Say what you will but I know for a fact most of those products got glowing reviews.
 
2013-05-10 04:36:54 AM
You can still have fun with radioactivity today.  Go out and buy a big bag of Brazil nuts (which are seeds BTW, not nuts) and take them with you in your pocket to the visitors centre of any nuclear power plant and watch what happens - Brazil nuts are naturally radioactive and have a half-life of 1.2 billion years - you'll be saying "unplanned scrub shower" before you know it.  Bananas are also radioactive but not quite as likely to set off radiation alarms.
 
2013-05-10 04:39:50 AM

ElPresidente: You can still have fun with radioactivity today.  Go out and buy a big bag of Brazil nuts (which are seeds BTW, not nuts) and take them with you in your pocket to the visitors centre of any nuclear power plant and watch what happens - Brazil nuts are naturally radioactive and have a half-life of 1.2 billion years - you'll be saying "unplanned scrub shower" before you know it.  Bananas are also radioactive but not quite as likely to set off radiation alarms.


So that's why Brazil nuts made my mouth tingle; thought I was allergic.
 
2013-05-10 04:41:50 AM
See what happens when people blindly believe science with religious zeal.
 
2013-05-10 04:44:50 AM

BarkingUnicorn: ElPresidente: You can still have fun with radioactivity today.  Go out and buy a big bag of Brazil nuts (which are seeds BTW, not nuts) and take them with you in your pocket to the visitors centre of any nuclear power plant and watch what happens - Brazil nuts are naturally radioactive and have a half-life of 1.2 billion years - you'll be saying "unplanned scrub shower" before you know it.  Bananas are also radioactive but not quite as likely to set off radiation alarms.

So that's why Brazil nuts made my mouth tingle; thought I was allergic.


(uncouth-double-entendre-joke)
 
2013-05-10 04:45:19 AM
 
2013-05-10 04:45:23 AM

hardinparamedic: And people wonder why the FDA is necessary.

I tend to believe people who say that got an F in history class


Now, if only the FDA had enough employees...
 
2013-05-10 04:46:36 AM
From another article on Radithor:

Eben Byers, a 49-year-old wealthy Pittsburgh industrialist, was looking to ease the chronic pain he was having in his arm. The year was 1927, and Eben was advised by his doctor to try a powerful new drug to cure his pain: Radithor. He became hooked. It appeared to not only heal his pain, but seemingly rekindled his sexual vitality.

It was two and a half years after regular use of Radithor, when Eben began complaining of chronic headaches and weight loss. Shortly thereafter, his teeth fell out, holes formed in his skull, and his mouth literally collapsed. Covering Eben's case, an article in the Wall Street Journal ran the headline: "The Radium Water Worked Fine Until His Jaw Came Off."
 
2013-05-10 04:47:40 AM

hardinparamedic: And people wonder why the FDA is necessary.

I tend to believe people who say that got an F in history class


You'd have a point if the FDA didn't have an unacceptably high rate of both type 1 and type 2 errors. I'm skeptical about the proteins in aggressively bred dwarf wheat, to say nothing of GMOs, and I'd really like to try sublingual immunotherapy.
 
2013-05-10 04:52:49 AM
"Guaranteed to contain Real Refined Radium and to be perfectly harmless."

It gave you radiation poisoning and cancer? Yes, that's right, it was guaranteed to be perfectly harmless. Here's your 29 cents back.
 
2013-05-10 04:56:08 AM

chrylis: FDA didn't have an unacceptably high rate of both type 1 and type 2 errors


Are you implying that no oversight has a better history? Government has it's problems, but it seems to have a mechanism to work those out. A good example would be the laws against radioactive toothpaste.
 
2013-05-10 05:00:55 AM
And how we have homeopathy, chiropractors, and Jenny McCarthy to deal with. Bad crap never goes away, it just changes it's spots.
 
2013-05-10 05:01:39 AM
its. Doh.
 
2013-05-10 05:02:18 AM

pellies: Are you implying that no oversight has a better history?


Industry will voluntarily correct their actions after education about regulations. Companies large and small adhere to best practices.
 
2013-05-10 05:05:19 AM

Pointy Tail of Satan: And how we have homeopathy, chiropractors, and Jenny McCarthy to deal with. Bad crap never goes away, it just changes it's spots.


I kinda wish those clowns would do a revival of these relics of insanity/ignorance

/it would give many the glow the so deserve
//and free Darwin Award for any customers
///11th purchase is free
 
2013-05-10 05:09:53 AM

UsikFark: pellies: Are you implying that no oversight has a better history?

Industry will voluntarily correct their actions after education about regulations. Companies large and small adhere to best practices.


I envy you in you ignorant bliss

/because lead and asbestos are so healthy, we've globally stopped using it completely
//people and companies will use what's cheapest (or most gimmicky) to get the job done, whether short term our long term if they can get away with it
 
2013-05-10 05:10:30 AM

chrylis: You'd have a point if the FDA didn't have an unacceptably high rate of both type 1 and type 2 errors. I'm skeptical about the proteins in aggressively bred dwarf wheat, to say nothing of GMOs, and I'd really like to try sublingual immunotherapy.


Ah, the good old fashioned "Perfect World" fallacy.

Yes. We get that GMOs frighten you, Simple Caveman Lawyer. It still makes the FDA far better than a world of no regulation, and FAR FAR better than what it was when the Pure Food and Drug Act of 1907 was put into law.
 
2013-05-10 05:11:24 AM
Well I'm not uptight, not unattracted
Turn me on tonight...
 
2013-05-10 05:11:49 AM

UsikFark: Industry will voluntarily correct their actions after education about regulations. Companies large and small adhere to best practices.


iambrony.jsmart.web.id

Oh, wait. You were serious...not sure if idiot or clever, subtle poe.
 
2013-05-10 05:12:28 AM
There are a lot of camera lenses that exhibit non-trivial amounts of radiation as well. Not something you want to have glued to your eye for long periods of time.
 
2013-05-10 05:15:46 AM
I'm not being serious, not by a long shot. Cases like NECC are supposed to be reminders of the oddball stuff people do despite the gov't's regulations.
 
2013-05-10 05:21:54 AM

hardinparamedic: clever, subtle poe


I'm worried about you. Yes, Poe's law is in effect, but I didn't think it was subtle.
 
2013-05-10 05:32:25 AM
Ah, the good old days, when you could just make shiat up and call it science. Thank goodness that doesn't happen any more.
 
2013-05-10 05:36:47 AM
There's a joke about radioactive farts in there somewhere, but I'm just too tired to find it.
 
2013-05-10 05:38:47 AM

UsikFark: I'm worried about you. Yes, Poe's law is in effect, but I didn't think it was subtle.


I've been paying attention to the politics threads more than usual, and I'm starting to see more and more that people believe in positions that I would have thought to be satire or ridicule.

The sad thing is, I seem to remember that statement being used seriously in one of the threads about defunding the FDA back during the presidential elections.
 
HKW
2013-05-10 05:39:17 AM
It made as much sense to people then, as global warming does to people now..
 
2013-05-10 05:39:51 AM
As much as I want to laugh at the ignorance of the time period, we currently produce over 1000 new chemical compounds every year. The percentage of those that are thoroughly tested before being put into use is woefully small.
 
2013-05-10 05:42:43 AM

UsikFark: Companies large and small adhere to best practices


Best practice being if the shiat hits the fan clean up quick. There is little to no concern for safety beyond what is already known. Without regulating bodies there was nothing but trouble. Show me the history of free market best practices before an incident. I have a few do you?
 
2013-05-10 05:43:39 AM

hardinparamedic: Yes. We get that GMOs frighten you, Simple Caveman Lawyer.


Nice try.  I'm not frightened of genetic engineering generally, and I'm usually the one pointing out that humans have been selectively breeding and even crossbreeding for millennia, but it seems to me that if we're going to have a massive bureaucracy telling us what sorts of things we can and can't put in our body regardless of how well-informed we are, at least direct insertions from crops humans haven't traditionally consumed should have some level of eye kept on them.

hardinparamedic: It still makes the FDA far better than a world of no regulation, and FAR FAR better than what it was when the Pure Food and Drug Act of 1907 was put into law.


But was that because of the FDA?  I'm perfectly interested in seeing evidence to that effect, but just like air and water were on a dramatically cleaner trajectory well before the Clean Stuff Acts were passed, and federal and state statutory regulations may actually have interfered with getting some waterways cleaned up, increased prosperity and public awareness were already driving improvements in food safety at that time.  Furthermore, how do you account for the harm done by preventing safe, effective medical treatments from being made available in the United States because I can't choose to use unapproved drugs at my own risk like I can use non-UL electronics?
 
2013-05-10 05:55:27 AM
Experts always saying somethings good for you one day and deadly the next. Just heard
that fish oil supplements cause heart disease.
 
2013-05-10 05:55:28 AM

Pointy Tail of Satan: And how we have homeopathy, chiropractors, and Jenny McCarthy to deal with. Bad crap never goes away, it just changes it's spots.


Well to be fair on Homeopathy it never actually poisoned anyone and in retrospect is now considered successful because it at least gave your immune system a chance to be beat any infections without the help of mercury injections or being bled to death by leeches.
still we now know better and it's bunk. Jenny McCarthy should just shut her fat stupid mouth and f**k off.
 
2013-05-10 05:58:44 AM

chrylis: Nice try.  I'm not frightened of genetic engineering generally, and I'm usually the one pointing out that humans have been selectively breeding and even crossbreeding for millennia


Then why are you afraid of technology that has been developed and used since the late 1950s? Curious, this...

chrylis: but it seems to me that if we're going to have a massive bureaucracy telling us what sorts of things we can and can't put in our body regardless of how well-informed we are, at least direct insertions from crops humans haven't traditionally consumed should have some level of eye kept on them.


Except that GMO crops that are used for human consumption  have to be approved by the FDA through their vetting process.

chrylis: But was that because of the FDA?  I'm perfectly interested in seeing evidence to that effect, but just like air and water were on a dramatically cleaner trajectory well before the Clean Stuff Acts were passed, and federal and state statutory regulations may actually have interfered with getting some waterways cleaned up, increased prosperity and public awareness were already driving improvements in food safety at that time.


Yes.

Yes, I can.

Please observe. And go read a damn history textbook. Your statement that "things were on a better trajectory" is demonstrably false with even a cursory review of the literature of the time. Patent drugs were legally sold which claimed to outright cure X and Y, and did nothing of the sort while containing toxic ingredients, like arsenic, cyanide, and industrial chemicals which were fatal to the people that took them, or contained addicting substances like Cocaine or Heroin.

www.ushistoryscene.com

chrylis: Furthermore, how do you account for the harm done by preventing safe, effective medical treatments from being made available in the United States because I can't choose to use unapproved drugs at my own risk like I can use non-UL electronics?


Because of Elixir of Sulfanilamide and Thalidomide. Among others. And what you are describing amounts to pseudoscientific research on your own body, which is utterly meaningless and unethical.
 
2013-05-10 06:11:55 AM
Was it safe for the Radium Girls who only worked from 9 to 5?
 
2013-05-10 06:20:31 AM
Science, in terms of industry, seems to follow a trend with some things like this.

1.  Discover something new
2.  Exploit it with industry in every product possible
2a.  Profit
3.  Discover later that it's dangerous as all Fark
4.  Get the government to regulate it's existence, and have it banned.
5.  Find something new to replace it
6.  Wash, rinse, wipe hands on pants, repeat.

Radiation is just one thing.  Lead is probably #2 on the list.  At least those are natural.  CFCs, and some of the toxic gases we've created are anything but natural.
 
2013-05-10 06:31:53 AM
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2013-05-10 06:47:17 AM
Why am I reading about this on FARK instead of Raddit?
 
2013-05-10 06:56:28 AM
"What were we thinking?"  SUPERPOWERS!!!!
 
2013-05-10 07:01:19 AM
In the next century I wonder what they will be asking that question about. Antibiotics probably.
 
2013-05-10 07:06:46 AM
If I recall correctly, the idea was that radioactivity was the amazing missing nutrient that made spring water so wonderful but eluded attempts to bottle it.  Don't worry, our generations is probably doing something like this too, but we simply don't know about it yet.
 
2013-05-10 07:09:41 AM

big pig peaches: In the next century I wonder what they will be asking that question about. Antibiotics probably.


Except that, unlike gratuitous and non targeted use of radiation, antibiotics have literally saved trillions of lives around the world.

In 1900, 5 of the 10 top causes of Death in the United States were from infectious disease.

In 1939, when Antibiotics began to be widely used, but before the widespread use of Penicillin, Pneumonia was still the 5th leading cause of Death.
 
2013-05-10 07:16:54 AM
It wasn't that long ago that we all thought Oat Bran was good for us, and then all those yuppies died of Carnivorous Colon Weasels.
 
2013-05-10 07:20:17 AM
And today we continue to pollute our precious bodily fluids with fluoride, which is slightly radioactive.
 
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