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2013-05-10 01:22:50 AM  

lucasorvis: This is officially my favorite fark thread EVER.  Well...minus the trolls.  For the first time since I was 21 or so I don't feel completely alone in my worldview and attitude.  SO AWESOME.


You're not alone.
 
2013-05-10 01:24:25 AM  

daveUSMC: tinfoil-hat maggie: daveUSMC: This piece really, REALLY hit home. Someone very close to me has hit almost every single phase she described, on top of me having my own battles since coming back from AFG. I just hope I don't continue down this path because I need to be there to help now.

/Rooting for her, for the person in my life, and for me.

Well remember the best thing you can do for her is to make sure you stay healthy...

Haha, that's what I tell HER all the time. I think we bust each other out of our depression with our own worse depression. Every time I'm feeling that glazed over "wait, what exactly is it in this world that I give a fark about?" malaise, a good freakout from the better half snaps me out of it when I go into protection mode.

/That is depressing in it of itself.
//The worst part is waiting for the bad days and feeling angry at myself for being complacent during the good days.


Well, I do hope you both find therapist to talk to and if necessary the meds if you need them. I'm sure you've both been through a helluva a lot, and sometimes talking to a neutral third party or second party helps.

I know it may sound weird but I was once diagnosed with PTSD after a mugging. Just one single flash in time changed how I look at the world. I still can't walk in a parking lot and feel completely safe.
 
2013-05-10 01:25:33 AM  
What's really important here is that she's cute.

farm5.static.flickr.com
 
2013-05-10 01:25:39 AM  

Peki: jimmythrust: Any doctor wanting to put you on more than two medications is probably a quack,

Fark: These were county docs at the free clinic.

/I can has socialized healthcare nao?


Can you afford to see an honest-to-god psychiatrist? If so, it's worth the hit to the wallet. They know brains a helluva lot better than GP's.

Medical advances supersede any political persuasion--social medicine or the train we're on now has little to do with what's best for one's mental health.
 
2013-05-10 01:25:43 AM  

TinyFist: TaterTot_HotDish:

I liked a lot of your posts in this thread. Come hang out with us in TFD.


wow, thanks!  :)
 
2013-05-10 01:27:24 AM  

susansto-helit: snortimer: Insanely accurate description of depression.  I wonder how many people would give a shiat if she was fat and ugly though.  Yeah, that's what I thought.

I would. I might be bi, but she's not my type. I just think she's a funny farking lady who deserves to have a good life. I became a fan without ever knowing what she looked like.


Cool, and yea I can't see why how she looks or that she's a she maters. Speak the truth and people ear and respond to that.
 
2013-05-10 01:27:47 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: daveUSMC: tinfoil-hat maggie: daveUSMC: This piece really, REALLY hit home. Someone very close to me has hit almost every single phase she described, on top of me having my own battles since coming back from AFG. I just hope I don't continue down this path because I need to be there to help now.

/Rooting for her, for the person in my life, and for me.

Well remember the best thing you can do for her is to make sure you stay healthy...

Haha, that's what I tell HER all the time. I think we bust each other out of our depression with our own worse depression. Every time I'm feeling that glazed over "wait, what exactly is it in this world that I give a fark about?" malaise, a good freakout from the better half snaps me out of it when I go into protection mode.

/That is depressing in it of itself.
//The worst part is waiting for the bad days and feeling angry at myself for being complacent during the good days.

Well, I do hope you both find therapist to talk to and if necessary the meds if you need them. I'm sure you've both been through a helluva a lot, and sometimes talking to a neutral third party or second party helps.

I know it may sound weird but I was once diagnosed with PTSD after a mugging. Just one single flash in time changed how I look at the world. I still can't walk in a parking lot and feel completely safe.


Did you get a gun? I hear that's supposed to cure feelings of unsafeness immediately.
 
2013-05-10 01:28:36 AM  

VTGremlin: These threads are always a valuable read.


I agree
 
2013-05-10 01:30:30 AM  
Is this the thread where we talk about our screwed up heads?

Yay for bi-polar disorder.

fark bi-polar disorder.

//Someone please pay attention to me, please.
//Why the fark wont you just leave me alone?
 
2013-05-10 01:30:50 AM  

jimmythrust: Peki: jimmythrust: Any doctor wanting to put you on more than two medications is probably a quack,

Fark: These were county docs at the free clinic.

/I can has socialized healthcare nao?

Can you afford to see an honest-to-god psychiatrist? If so, it's worth the hit to the wallet. They know brains a helluva lot better than GP's.

Medical advances supersede any political persuasion--social medicine or the train we're on now has little to do with what's best for one's mental health.


Nope. We (fiance and I) bring in on average $100 a week. No bills, but half of that goes to gas between school and his job, and my volunteer work at church. Up shiat's creek without a turd for a paddle until the income bumps up, and there's a lot of things in line before "psych treatment for Peki." Like a new pair of glasses. :/

Seriously, at this point I think it's going to take charity of some point to get what I need. I'll have to meet someone, tell my story, and they hook up something. *shrug*

Meantime, I've got stuff to do, so I'll deal as best I can.
 
2013-05-10 01:31:41 AM  
PARP
 
2013-05-10 01:33:24 AM  

Gyrfalcon: tinfoil-hat maggie: daveUSMC: tinfoil-hat maggie: daveUSMC: This piece really, REALLY hit home. Someone very close to me has hit almost every single phase she described, on top of me having my own battles since coming back from AFG. I just hope I don't continue down this path because I need to be there to help now.

/Rooting for her, for the person in my life, and for me.

Well remember the best thing you can do for her is to make sure you stay healthy...

Haha, that's what I tell HER all the time. I think we bust each other out of our depression with our own worse depression. Every time I'm feeling that glazed over "wait, what exactly is it in this world that I give a fark about?" malaise, a good freakout from the better half snaps me out of it when I go into protection mode.

/That is depressing in it of itself.
//The worst part is waiting for the bad days and feeling angry at myself for being complacent during the good days.

Well, I do hope you both find therapist to talk to and if necessary the meds if you need them. I'm sure you've both been through a helluva a lot, and sometimes talking to a neutral third party or second party helps.

I know it may sound weird but I was once diagnosed with PTSD after a mugging. Just one single flash in time changed how I look at the world. I still can't walk in a parking lot and feel completely safe.

Did you get a gun? I hear that's supposed to cure feelings of unsafeness immediately.


I've thought about it but there's only one reason I'd get a gun and it's not a good one. I really do need to get the key chain pepper spray, although as it is when I walk in a parking lot I hold my keys so I can stab or punch with them. So there's that.

/Oh and my family only owns long guns, so
 
2013-05-10 01:36:21 AM  

Springy23: Is this the thread where we talk about our screwed up heads?

Yay for bi-polar disorder.

fark bi-polar disorder.

//Someone please pay attention to me, please.
//Why the fark wont you just leave me alone?


Dude my aunt and brother are bi-polar, it's one of the reasons so many people wanted to treat me for that. It's interesting but not fun.
 
2013-05-10 01:43:28 AM  
fark. Glad shes alive. Frankly, i thought the last article before this was a suicide note.

she just made me cry, as i realize that although i thought i was through the ahsolute worst of it, im still mostly in the "cant give a fark about anything" or "farking hate everything" phase.

maybe shes the next step before i find the corn.
 
2013-05-10 01:44:42 AM  

eventhelosers: For me it was porn not corn but cool.


What exactly did you find that was shriveled up under the fridge?
 
2013-05-10 01:44:55 AM  

Glockenspiel Hero: Reading this thread has been fascinating- I splash around in the kiddie pool of depression compared to many folks here but it's still a huge drag on things.  Two things that help these days

1) I finally bit the bullet and went on bupropion a few months back.  It's a fascinating drug- the effects are quite subtle at any given moment but in hindsight it really takes the edge off the things that use to start a depressive spiral.  I don't obsess anywhere near as much on the negative things in my life, and I've been a little more stable at the moment something bad's happening.
2) I took up guitar a few years back.  Allowing myself to suck at something actually is pretty liberating. I'm total crap.   I have *no* musical talent at all.  But nobody expects me to play well.  *I* don't expect me to play well.  I fail (and flail) at it daily, and when I'm done sucking I go back to the real world.

For those in the deep end- keep paddling.

(Bizarre bit- I had been reading this thread before practicing.  I decided to learn something new today, so I picked Iron Maiden's "Can I Play With Madness".  I was 20 minutes into learning it when I suddenly realized...)


That's how the bupropion works for me, too. Some of the other anti-depressants I've taken were awful; either I had crazy side-effects or it felt like I had a mind wipe. This stuff...at a given point in time, I can't say exactly what, if anything, it's doing. But in the long-term, it helps me wake up and face the day without feeling detached or like I'm looking at the world through some kind of weird lens that makes everything look...unreal.

I got completely hooked on learning how to ride and wrench on my motorcycle. It focuses me and makes me smile that kind of smile where you feel like it's gonna split your face in half. It's the first time I've felt that way about anything in a long time. One of the things I hate about depression is that it sucks the fun out of everything you used to enjoy, or at least it did for me.
 
2013-05-10 01:49:00 AM  

Peki: jimmythrust: Peki: jimmythrust: Any doctor wanting to put you on more than two medications is probably a quack,

Fark: These were county docs at the free clinic.

/I can has socialized healthcare nao?

Can you afford to see an honest-to-god psychiatrist? If so, it's worth the hit to the wallet. They know brains a helluva lot better than GP's.

Medical advances supersede any political persuasion--social medicine or the train we're on now has little to do with what's best for one's mental health.

Nope. We (fiance and I) bring in on average $100 a week. No bills, but half of that goes to gas between school and his job, and my volunteer work at church. Up shiat's creek without a turd for a paddle until the income bumps up, and there's a lot of things in line before "psych treatment for Peki." Like a new pair of glasses. :/

Seriously, at this point I think it's going to take charity of some point to get what I need. I'll have to meet someone, tell my story, and they hook up something. *shrug*

Meantime, I've got stuff to do, so I'll deal as best I can.


Maybe get the scrips at the clinic and throw most of them away? Any one of the main SSRIs or MAOIs for depression can be game-changers. Just stay away some of the anti-anxiety meds...

I'll spare you the platitudes, but I know several farkers who have benefited from the kindness of other farkers, so there's always that if you have few local options. The net can, on occasion, be used for good and not porno.

//NTTAWWPr0n
///just don't do it to pay bills
///too many slashies :-)
 
2013-05-10 01:50:27 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Springy23: Is this the thread where we talk about our screwed up heads?

Yay for bi-polar disorder.

fark bi-polar disorder.

//Someone please pay attention to me, please.
//Why the fark wont you just leave me alone?

Dude my aunt and brother are bi-polar, it's one of the reasons so many people wanted to treat me for that. It's interesting but not fun.


This comic and Aly's first comic about depression hit really close to home. My roommate, god bless his soul, has had to put up with a lot over the last five years. He posted upthread and he's been responsible for literally saving my life at least twice (as in he loosened the belt around my neck). I owe him more than I could ever express.

Thank you Nobleham. I'm sorry I'm such a pain, a drag, and a lit fire. I love you and I'm doing my best to learn how to express that. Your patience and your belief in me will always be appreciated, even if I'm a shiathead about showing it sometimes and I do my best to ruin what I've built. I'm grateful that no matter how bleak my brain gets, I can count a million times over on your support.
 
2013-05-10 01:55:20 AM  

Springy23: tinfoil-hat maggie: Springy23: Is this the thread where we talk about our screwed up heads?

Yay for bi-polar disorder.

fark bi-polar disorder.

//Someone please pay attention to me, please.
//Why the fark wont you just leave me alone?

Dude my aunt and brother are bi-polar, it's one of the reasons so many people wanted to treat me for that. It's interesting but not fun.

This comic and Aly's first comic about depression hit really close to home. My roommate, god bless his soul, has had to put up with a lot over the last five years. He posted upthread and he's been responsible for literally saving my life at least twice (as in he loosened the belt around my neck). I owe him more than I could ever express.

Thank you Nobleham. I'm sorry I'm such a pain, a drag, and a lit fire. I love you and I'm doing my best to learn how to express that. Your patience and your belief in me will always be appreciated, even if I'm a shiathead about showing it sometimes and I do my best to ruin what I've built. I'm grateful that no matter how bleak my brain gets, I can count a million times over on your support.

 
2013-05-10 01:55:53 AM  

Peki: jimmythrust: Peki: jimmythrust: Any doctor wanting to put you on more than two medications is probably a quack,

Fark: These were county docs at the free clinic.

/I can has socialized healthcare nao?

Can you afford to see an honest-to-god psychiatrist? If so, it's worth the hit to the wallet. They know brains a helluva lot better than GP's.

Medical advances supersede any political persuasion--social medicine or the train we're on now has little to do with what's best for one's mental health.

Nope. We (fiance and I) bring in on average $100 a week. No bills, but half of that goes to gas between school and his job, and my volunteer work at church. Up shiat's creek without a turd for a paddle until the income bumps up, and there's a lot of things in line before "psych treatment for Peki." Like a new pair of glasses. :/

Seriously, at this point I think it's going to take charity of some point to get what I need. I'll have to meet someone, tell my story, and they hook up something. *shrug*

Meantime, I've got stuff to do, so I'll deal as best I can.


As a former poor person with mental problems, I'd highly recommend County if you have a good one...but stay the hell away if you live in, say LA or someplace similar that is strapped for cash. You will never get in.

Meanwhile, have you tried Costco? I just discovered to my amazement that prescriptions there are about a quarter of what I used to pay--my Topamax is over $200 at CVS, but $13 at Costco, so the membership fee is totally worth it. My Zoloft is about the same (I use generics of both). If you can get a clinic to write you the scripts, with refills, you could manage for three or four months that way...
 
2013-05-10 01:56:11 AM  

torusXL: Bandito King: torusXL: TheOtherMisterP: I was in a decent mood until I started reading that....comic? Whatever it is. Everything about the page is just freaking creepy to me.

Well, that's what a lot of people are living through.

Are you just gonna ignore them because you feel creeped out about it?

No, I ignore them because it's what they seem to want. And because I desperately want to ignore them myself.

/not everyone has the same type of depression
//sounds like ennui, not depression at all
///some of us just grow the fark up and stop being so goddamn self-absorbed

Wow, you're a complete coward. That's about all I got.


I would normally have something biting to say in reply but... wha? I'm having trouble seeing how you got cowardice out of what I typed. I could see 'mean' or 'lack of empathy' or 'potential troll'. I just don't understand your response.
 
2013-05-10 01:56:54 AM  

Springy23: tinfoil-hat maggie: Springy23: Is this the thread where we talk about our screwed up heads?

Yay for bi-polar disorder.

fark bi-polar disorder.

//Someone please pay attention to me, please.
//Why the fark wont you just leave me alone?

Dude my aunt and brother are bi-polar, it's one of the reasons so many people wanted to treat me for that. It's interesting but not fun.

This comic and Aly's first comic about depression hit really close to home. My roommate, god bless his soul, has had to put up with a lot over the last five years. He posted upthread and he's been responsible for literally saving my life at least twice (as in he loosened the belt around my neck). I owe him more than I could ever express.

Thank you Nobleham. I'm sorry I'm such a pain, a drag, and a lit fire. I love you and I'm doing my best to learn how to express that. Your patience and your belief in me will always be appreciated, even if I'm a shiathead about showing it sometimes and I do my best to ruin what I've built. I'm grateful that no matter how bleak my brain gets, I can count a million times over on your support.


That is so great of you. And so great of your noble friend. There is always something around to alleviate the pain of life in a good way. Or, at least, a way that's better than trying to snap your own neck. Help, aid, assistance, and support are all things that are always closer than we think--especially when we are at our lowest.
 
2013-05-10 02:06:34 AM  

Bandito King: I would normally have something biting to say in reply but... wha? I'm having trouble seeing how you got cowardice out of what I typed. I could see 'mean' or 'lack of empathy' or 'potential troll'. I just don't understand your response.


Should I just quote you to you? Guess that's what it takes with ignoramuses like you. 

Bandito King: I desperately want to ignore them myself.


It's cowardice because you say that your fear of depressed people is more important to you than is lending a helping hand to depressed people - who are in reality good people with the misfortune of a kinked up nervous system.
 
2013-05-10 02:11:39 AM  

jimmythrust: I'll spare you the platitudes, but I know several farkers who have benefited from the kindness of other farkers, so there's always that if you have few local options. The net can, on occasion, be used for good and not porno.


Like I've posted in a previous thread and like some posters in this thread, anyone who feels they're having trouble finding someone to listen, feel totally free to contact me (EIP).

Cross my heart, hope to die, you'll receive no judging from me. Just good ol' listening and empathy. Promise I won't be pulling a Bandito King.
 
2013-05-10 02:12:03 AM  

torusXL:
Should I just quote you to you? Guess that's what it takes with ignoramuses like you.
It's cowardice because you say that your fear of depressed people is more important to you than is lending a helping hand to depressed people - who are in reality good people with the misfortune of a kinked up nervous system.


Well said and although Poe's law says maybe not I'm thinking he's just trolling for an argument, either way he's an idiot.
 
2013-05-10 02:17:15 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Meanwhile, have you tried Costco? I just discovered to my amazement that prescriptions there are about a quarter of what I used to pay--my Topamax is over $200 at CVS, but $13 at Costco, so the membership fee is totally worth it. My Zoloft is about the same (I use generics of both). If you can get a clinic to write you the scripts, with refills, you could manage for three or four months that way...


CVS is the most expensive pharmacy I have found, although that's crazy Costco is so much lower. I get my meds from overseas cheaper than I could here but I may have to check out Costco, wow.
 
2013-05-10 02:19:26 AM  
God damned finally!!!
 
2013-05-10 02:32:17 AM  

torusXL: It's cowardice because you say that your fear of depressed people is more important to you than is lending a helping hand to depressed people - who are in reality good people with the misfortune of a kinked up nervous system.


*clears throat*

...I think the worst thing about the medicalization of depression is that it takes whole universes of human experience and understanding, and discards them as nothing more than symptoms of a malfunctioning brain...and all simply because those worlds happen to be unpleasant, either to the person inhabiting said world, or (just as often) those around them.

Seems kinda farked up, to me.

*shrugs*

i3.ytimg.com
 
2013-05-10 02:34:09 AM  

Hal5423: God damned finally!!!


Finally?
 
2013-05-10 02:40:33 AM  
This is hitting home for me.  I've dealt with depression for years, been on Celexa for...a long time.  60mg was keeping me stable, then the FDA put out a warning that that dosage wasn't safe anymore and then back I went down to 40.

I did okay for awhile, but I can start to feel the depression creeping back.

I hate this feeling.
 
2013-05-10 02:48:20 AM  

Bumblefark: torusXL: It's cowardice because you say that your fear of depressed people is more important to you than is lending a helping hand to depressed people - who are in reality good people with the misfortune of a kinked up nervous system.

*clears throat*

...I think the worst thing about the medicalization of depression is that it takes whole universes of human experience and understanding, and discards them as nothing more than symptoms of a malfunctioning brain...and all simply because those worlds happen to be unpleasant, either to the person inhabiting said world, or (just as often) those around them.

Seems kinda farked up, to me.

*shrugs*


Well you seem kind of f'd up to me, are some people over medicated? I'm sure they are but for those that need it psychiatric meds , they are a good thing and we really wouldn't function in society no mater what it was like.
 
2013-05-10 02:49:18 AM  

not_an_indigo: This is hitting home for me.  I've dealt with depression for years, been on Celexa for...a long time.  60mg was keeping me stable, then the FDA put out a warning that that dosage wasn't safe anymore and then back I went down to 40.

I did okay for awhile, but I can start to feel the depression creeping back.

I hate this feeling.


Go talk to your professionals. It's ok to do that.
 
2013-05-10 02:49:23 AM  

torusXL: Bandito King: I would normally have something biting to say in reply but... wha? I'm having trouble seeing how you got cowardice out of what I typed. I could see 'mean' or 'lack of empathy' or 'potential troll'. I just don't understand your response.

Should I just quote you to you? Guess that's what it takes with ignoramuses like you. 

Bandito King: I desperately want to ignore them myself.

It's cowardice because you say that your fear of depressed people is more important to you than is lending a helping hand to depressed people - who are in reality good people with the misfortune of a kinked up nervous system.


I don't know if it's entirely fair to dismiss the inability to deal with people who are clinically depressed is cowardice. I was in a live-in relationship with someone who was clinically depressed. When you're just trying to be supportive and just about everything you try to do gets summarily ignored or thrown back at your face, what else is there to do? And what about when the person in question actually starts becoming hostile in response? What then?
 
2013-05-10 02:55:35 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Bumblefark: torusXL: It's cowardice because you say that your fear of depressed people is more important to you than is lending a helping hand to depressed people - who are in reality good people with the misfortune of a kinked up nervous system.

*clears throat*

...I think the worst thing about the medicalization of depression is that it takes whole universes of human experience and understanding, and discards them as nothing more than symptoms of a malfunctioning brain...and all simply because those worlds happen to be unpleasant, either to the person inhabiting said world, or (just as often) those around them.

Seems kinda farked up, to me.

*shrugs*

Well you seem kind of f'd up to me, are some people over medicated? I'm sure they are but for those that need it psychiatric meds , they are a good thing and we really wouldn't function in society no mater what it was like.


Yeah...that wasn't the point I was making. But, go ahead and stab aimlessly in the dark if it cheers you up.
 
2013-05-10 02:57:14 AM  

jimmythrust: not_an_indigo: This is hitting home for me.  I've dealt with depression for years, been on Celexa for...a long time.  60mg was keeping me stable, then the FDA put out a warning that that dosage wasn't safe anymore and then back I went down to 40.

I did okay for awhile, but I can start to feel the depression creeping back.

I hate this feeling.

Go talk to your professionals. It's ok to do that.


Yea 60 mg of Celexa is a lot, something else out there is probably better suited for you. I mean my dosage was only 10mg on Celaxa. Now back to taking 20mg of Paxil but I'm sort of doing it every other day right now so I don't feel nothing. At first I was doing 20mg a day when I was in a bad way.
 
2013-05-10 02:59:34 AM  

Bumblefark: tinfoil-hat maggie: Bumblefark: torusXL: It's cowardice because you say that your fear of depressed people is more important to you than is lending a helping hand to depressed people - who are in reality good people with the misfortune of a kinked up nervous system.

*clears throat*

...I think the worst thing about the medicalization of depression is that it takes whole universes of human experience and understanding, and discards them as nothing more than symptoms of a malfunctioning brain...and all simply because those worlds happen to be unpleasant, either to the person inhabiting said world, or (just as often) those around them.

Seems kinda farked up, to me.

*shrugs*

Well you seem kind of f'd up to me, are some people over medicated? I'm sure they are but for those that need it psychiatric meds , they are a good thing and we really wouldn't function in society no mater what it was like.

Yeah...that wasn't the point I was making. But, go ahead and stab aimlessly in the dark if it cheers you up.


I, for one, am thrilled at the medicalization of what would have previously had me committed to a sanitarium.  I'd rather appear normal-ish to some and have a job few would dare to try.
 
2013-05-10 02:59:44 AM  

Bumblefark: Yeah...that wasn't the point I was making. But, go ahead and stab aimlessly in the dark if it cheers you up.


Meh, I don't believe you have a point other than trolling with some absurd argument.
 
2013-05-10 03:06:22 AM  

jimmythrust: I, for one, am thrilled at the medicalization of what would have previously had me committed to a sanitarium. I'd rather appear normal-ish to some and have a job few would dare to try.


Yea, pretty much but back in those days I would have been sent there for other reasons O_ 0
 
2013-05-10 03:07:00 AM  

jimmythrust: Bumblefark: tinfoil-hat maggie: Bumblefark: torusXL: It's cowardice because you say that your fear of depressed people is more important to you than is lending a helping hand to depressed people - who are in reality good people with the misfortune of a kinked up nervous system.

*clears throat*

...I think the worst thing about the medicalization of depression is that it takes whole universes of human experience and understanding, and discards them as nothing more than symptoms of a malfunctioning brain...and all simply because those worlds happen to be unpleasant, either to the person inhabiting said world, or (just as often) those around them.

Seems kinda farked up, to me.

*shrugs*

Well you seem kind of f'd up to me, are some people over medicated? I'm sure they are but for those that need it psychiatric meds , they are a good thing and we really wouldn't function in society no mater what it was like.

Yeah...that wasn't the point I was making. But, go ahead and stab aimlessly in the dark if it cheers you up.

I, for one, am thrilled at the medicalization of what would have previously had me committed to a sanitarium.  I'd rather appear normal-ish to some and have a job few would dare to try.


Good on you.

Me, I wouldn't give up my way of looking at the world, even if someone threatened to lock me up in a sanitarium for it. Doesn't mean I begrudge anyone the choice of treatment. This isn't some weird, "deaf-pride" thing...
 
2013-05-10 03:09:42 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: jimmythrust: not_an_indigo: This is hitting home for me.  I've dealt with depression for years, been on Celexa for...a long time.  60mg was keeping me stable, then the FDA put out a warning that that dosage wasn't safe anymore and then back I went down to 40.

I did okay for awhile, but I can start to feel the depression creeping back.

I hate this feeling.

Go talk to your professionals. It's ok to do that.

Yea 60 mg of Celexa is a lot, something else out there is probably better suited for you. I mean my dosage was only 10mg on Celaxa. Now back to taking 20mg of Paxil but I'm sort of doing it every other day right now so I don't feel nothing. At first I was doing 20mg a day when I was in a bad way.


Paxil works for you? I loved it until I tried to get off it--brain freezes, vertigo, all that class-action lawsuit stuff. But it made me "normal" and actually extra-horny, and I'm much better off on 50 mg of Zoloft--it's like Paxil Junior without the side effects.
 
2013-05-10 03:10:21 AM  

torusXL: Bandito King: I would normally have something biting to say in reply but... wha? I'm having trouble seeing how you got cowardice out of what I typed. I could see 'mean' or 'lack of empathy' or 'potential troll'. I just don't understand your response.

Should I just quote you to you? Guess that's what it takes with ignoramuses like you. 

Bandito King: I desperately want to ignore them myself.

It's cowardice because you say that your fear of depressed people is more important to you than is lending a helping hand to depressed people - who are in reality good people with the misfortune of a kinked up nervous system.


Ohhhhhh! No, you misunderstand. I'm not threatened by them, I find them irritating. See, my farked up nervous system gives me the 'rage' and it's exacerbated by mopey little shiats like this. So sorry I can't be bothered to filter it like I do when I'm out in the world but eh, it's fark. Plus, you know, I couldn't give less of a damn about your feelings.

Most people are expected to cope. Depressed people just give up and let themselves be overwhelmed by the monumental task of getting out of bed. You want me to empathize with that? I'd rather euthanize them. So it's best for my sanity and theirs if they just keep it to themselves like an... what's the word... oh, adult. You don't matter. Your feelings don't matter. Get over it or kill yourself. But for chrissakes, Shut. The. fark. Up. About it.
 
2013-05-10 03:20:51 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Bumblefark: Yeah...that wasn't the point I was making. But, go ahead and stab aimlessly in the dark if it cheers you up.

Meh, I don't believe you have a point other than trolling with some absurd argument.


Oh, stop. I posted one comment suggesting that I wasn't thrilled with the idea of dismissing the total sum of depressive ideation as the result of a "kinked up nervous system." From that, you inferred I'm some anti-med zealot. And, somehow, that makes me a troll...

kay.
 
2013-05-10 03:29:54 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Gyrfalcon: Meanwhile, have you tried Costco? I just discovered to my amazement that prescriptions there are about a quarter of what I used to pay--my Topamax is over $200 at CVS, but $13 at Costco, so the membership fee is totally worth it. My Zoloft is about the same (I use generics of both). If you can get a clinic to write you the scripts, with refills, you could manage for three or four months that way...

CVS is the most expensive pharmacy I have found, although that's crazy Costco is so much lower. I get my meds from overseas cheaper than I could here but I may have to check out Costco, wow.


Check it out, it was absolutely astonishing. I did some checking when I lost my insurance, and really....from $200 to $13 or $18...I mean, something's definitely amiss with the pharmaceutical market.
 
2013-05-10 03:32:13 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: jimmythrust: I, for one, am thrilled at the medicalization of what would have previously had me committed to a sanitarium. I'd rather appear normal-ish to some and have a job few would dare to try.

Yea, pretty much but back in those days I would have been sent there for other reasons O_ 0


I remember reading Hammer of the Gods, the crappy Zeppelin tell-all, wherein the boyos claimed to chase the girls hospitalized for chronic masturbation...was that your problem as well? Cuz I hear ya, sister! :-)
 
2013-05-10 03:36:35 AM  

megarian: I don't want so sound like something I'm not. I like things about sex. I have never had an orgasm and that's not my focus. I like being physical and look at it as a sport...as in I want to make the other person have a really REALLY good time. So that's the goal and I am willing to work for it. But as far as me getting off? Not going to happen. I can do it manually but it takes a while and is not worth the effort. I like sex, though. I get a lot of information and mental pleasure through sex. I like aerobic activity.


transformedandscaled.com
 
2013-05-10 03:37:35 AM  

jimmythrust: tinfoil-hat maggie: jimmythrust: not_an_indigo: This is hitting home for me.  I've dealt with depression for years, been on Celexa for...a long time.  60mg was keeping me stable, then the FDA put out a warning that that dosage wasn't safe anymore and then back I went down to 40.

I did okay for awhile, but I can start to feel the depression creeping back.

I hate this feeling.

Go talk to your professionals. It's ok to do that.

Yea 60 mg of Celexa is a lot, something else out there is probably better suited for you. I mean my dosage was only 10mg on Celaxa. Now back to taking 20mg of Paxil but I'm sort of doing it every other day right now so I don't feel nothing. At first I was doing 20mg a day when I was in a bad way.

Paxil works for you? I loved it until I tried to get off it--brain freezes, vertigo, all that class-action lawsuit stuff. But it made me "normal" and actually extra-horny, and I'm much better off on 50 mg of Zoloft--it's like Paxil Junior without the side effects.


I went off it no problem about a year and a half ago maybe its closer to two years now but no problems. I was on 20mg a day. Getting back on it was tough though I felt like well my brain was seizing for a month, I don't remember that from the last time but then I was in a really bad way and this time I went back on because I was going there.

Oh and I 'm taking Prozac not Paxil, I have taken Paxil truthfully that time was so long ago I don't really remember it but that it wasn't working out for me. I've tried lots of meds over the years, it get's frustrating at times. Sometimes they work as prescribed but the side effects are to much and some times they don't really work at all.
 
2013-05-10 03:48:17 AM  

Gyrfalcon: tinfoil-hat maggie: Gyrfalcon: Meanwhile, have you tried Costco? I just discovered to my amazement that prescriptions there are about a quarter of what I used to pay--my Topamax is over $200 at CVS, but $13 at Costco, so the membership fee is totally worth it. My Zoloft is about the same (I use generics of both). If you can get a clinic to write you the scripts, with refills, you could manage for three or four months that way...

CVS is the most expensive pharmacy I have found, although that's crazy Costco is so much lower. I get my meds from overseas cheaper than I could here but I may have to check out Costco, wow.

Check it out, it was absolutely astonishing. I did some checking when I lost my insurance, and really....from $200 to $13 or $18...I mean, something's definitely amiss with the pharmaceutical market.


Cool, I'll have to look into that and here I thought I was all savey getting my pills from New Zealand through a UK company, maybe I should give the Chinese a chance.
 
2013-05-10 03:50:47 AM  

Bandito King: Ohhhhhh! No, you misunderstand. I'm not threatened by them, I find them irritating. See, my farked up nervous system gives me the 'rage' and it's exacerbated by mopey little shiats like this. So sorry I can't be bothered to filter it like I do when I'm out in the world but eh, it's fark. Plus, you know, I couldn't give less of a damn about your feelings.

Most people are expected to cope. Depressed people just give up and let themselves be overwhelmed by the monumental task of getting out of bed. You want me to empathize with that? I'd rather euthanize them. So it's best for my sanity and theirs if they just keep it to themselves like an... what's the word... oh, adult. You don't matter. Your feelings don't matter. Get over it or kill yourself. But for chrissakes, Shut. The. fark. Up. About it.


So...what you're really trying to say is you're not a coward, you're just a raging sociopathic asshat?
 
2013-05-10 03:53:17 AM  

jimmythrust: tinfoil-hat maggie: jimmythrust: I, for one, am thrilled at the medicalization of what would have previously had me committed to a sanitarium. I'd rather appear normal-ish to some and have a job few would dare to try.

Yea, pretty much but back in those days I would have been sent there for other reasons O_ 0

I remember reading Hammer of the Gods, the crappy Zeppelin tell-all, wherein the boyos claimed to chase the girls hospitalized for chronic masturbation...was that your problem as well? Cuz I hear ya, sister! :-)


I remember my first stay in a mental ward there was a girl like that but I don't think anyone would have chased her.
/Sorry
//And no that's not what I was thinking but I probably have had enough suicide attempts to keep me in in the old days.
 
2013-05-10 04:02:33 AM  
Wow, that comic and this thread are both just simply amazing and I'm glad I took the time to read it all.

Her first comic about depression and the internal dialog that eventually degenerates into a spiral of self-loathing and apathy was so dead on that I actually had to stop reading it and just hug my knees for a little while.

Anyway, as hippy-drum-circleish as this sounds, I just want everyone who is battling or has battled depression to have the chance to experience joy again and truly know that things can get better. If hugs and hot chocolate truly had magical psychological healing powers, I'd spend my life dishing them out to everyone. Sadly, and thankfully, human beings aren't that simple.

/hopelessly optimistic, despite often overwhelming evidence to the contrary
//marshmallows in hot chocolate are the key
 
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