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2013-05-09 07:32:46 PM  
data.whicdn.com
Oh, and I like this one, too.
 
2013-05-09 07:33:51 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I'm surprised at how modern medicine has missed what is so clear to the WebMDs here in this thread. Namely, that depression can be fixed by a good deep dicking.

Fark never ceases to amaze me.


i177.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-09 07:35:13 PM  
I don't want so sound like something I'm not. I like things about sex. I have never had an orgasm and that's not my focus. I like being physical and look at it as a sport...as in I want to make the other person have a really REALLY good time. So that's the goal and I am willing to work for it. But as far as me getting off? Not going to happen. I can do it manually but it takes a while and is not worth the effort. I like sex, though. I get a lot of information and mental pleasure through sex. I like aerobic activity.
 
2013-05-09 07:35:19 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: [www.tandyonline.co.uk image 492x492]


What does the most common NPN transistor in the world have to do with this thread?
 
2013-05-09 07:36:37 PM  
So, quite possibly all the attention this is getting will make some people realize, "hey, I'm depressed, I should see a doctor or something." Depression ≠ sadness but alot* of people don't know that, and they figure if they don't constantly feel like their dog just got run over they must not be depressed.

However, judging from the comments threads I've seen about it on the internets today, the main psychotherapeutic benefit of this blog post seems to be its ability to diagnose people with rage issues. Damn!

deliberate
 
2013-05-09 07:37:45 PM  
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:
Damn dude. Why have sex if not for pleasure?

She's a woman, so I can't entirely relate, but...
As a guy that's been dealing with it for most of his life (but thankfully under control for the past 10 years), the sex drive is still there even when in the darkest depths of it. Hormones are strong things. "Why are you sad, brain? Thinking sucks! Reproduce! Reproduce!! YEAH! PASS ON THOSE GENES!"

Fapping wasn't so much satisfying as it was putting a silence on that drive for a little while. Although I suppose suppressing the urge is the effect no matter how the person feels.
 
2013-05-09 07:39:22 PM  
While my depression might not have been quite as severe, I do remember thinking, "I have nothing in my whole life to look forward to," and also wondering if things would be easier if I were just dead.

I never want to go back there.

I empathize with her and with everyone else in this thread who've gone through (or are currently struggling with) depression.  And I notice that a lot of people don't get it.  More than that -- they don't WANT to get it.  They recoil from depressed people as if depression were a giant oozing sore on our foreheads.  It's like they need to call us weak or lazy as quick as they POSSIBLY can, as if that were a way to prove they are superior and therefore make themselves immune to depression.

Luckily, there are a lot of really caring and empathetic people who also don't get it, but at least they try to understand.
 
2013-05-09 07:39:48 PM  

caddisfly: Bathia_Mapes: Yay!

Yippee!  I've been checking her page occasionally for the past year.  The utter lack of updates was making ME depressed.  Allie is 10 kinds of awesome.


She is indeed. And I've been quite concerned about her after her last appearance and subsequent long disappearance.
 
2013-05-09 07:39:54 PM  

JRoo: Emotions are just roadblocks on the path to higher intelligence.


Sounds like the credo of a psychopath.
 
2013-05-09 07:40:15 PM  
Okay, this is probably a longshot and I know that, but...does anyone in this thread have any experience with or know anyone who has experience with the use of ECT or Trans-cranial Electromagnets in the treatment of depression?
 
2013-05-09 07:41:00 PM  
I wasn't a close follower of H&aH, but the ones I had read I really enjoyed.  Glad to hear that she's working her way out of the big D.  (No, not "Detroit", though that would also be braggable.)

The feeling that you wish nobody cared about you so you could just stop existing is pretty goddamn rough.
 
2013-05-09 07:41:45 PM  
I think I'm seeing that in my house right now.  It worries me that I don't know how to help the injured parties, and I don't want to make it worse, especially after reading her reactions to well meaning idiots.

I'm scared.
 
2013-05-09 07:42:02 PM  

radarlove: Okay, this is probably a longshot and I know that, but...does anyone in this thread have any experience with or know anyone who has experience with the use of ECT or Trans-cranial Electromagnets in the treatment of depression?


I do. I am an intern, though. What do you want to know?
 
2013-05-09 07:42:04 PM  
This was purely awesome to read.
Glad she's back - still waiting for the book though!
 
2013-05-09 07:43:45 PM  
sometimes I think she's me.

could just be the fark handle, though.
 
2013-05-09 07:44:20 PM  

radarlove: Okay, this is probably a longshot and I know that, but...does anyone in this thread have any experience with or know anyone who has experience with the use of ECT or Trans-cranial Electromagnets in the treatment of depression?


Yes. A family friend lost 7 years of her memory, then got brain cancer and died after ECT (may or may not have been related). I'm wary of its therapeutic value.
 
2013-05-09 07:44:51 PM  

megarian: radarlove: Okay, this is probably a longshot and I know that, but...does anyone in this thread have any experience with or know anyone who has experience with the use of ECT or Trans-cranial Electromagnets in the treatment of depression?

I do. I am an intern, though. What do you want to know?


Mainly, how effective is it in someone who has run the gamut of SSRIs and Tricyclics and such but for whom those only exacerbated the depression?  Also, how difficult is it to find someone qualified and reliable to do it, and can a fella like me make you, the taxpayer, foot the bill?
 
2013-05-09 07:45:06 PM  
I had depression.  Still have a partial bottle of Pristiq sitting here. I didn't want to kill myself though, I wanted to kill everyone else. Lost a years and a half of my life hiding in the house. It sucks balls.
 
2013-05-09 07:46:42 PM  

cherryl taggart: I think I'm seeing that in my house right now.  It worries me that I don't know how to help the injured parties, and I don't want to make it worse, especially after reading her reactions to well meaning idiots.

I'm scared.


Well, it's a scary thing.  You can't make anyone get better, or even make them want to get better. They have to 1) notice that it's a problem and 2) work really, really hard every day to make it better.

You might be able to help with 1.  2 is ultimately up to them, (although you can provide financial and emotional support).

I think the best way to deal with a depressed person is the way as with anyone who is sick.  Be real.  Don't pretend that they're not sick, or pretend they're not hurting.  The fish are dead.  That sucks.  Be there with them while it sucks.  Show them you care about them anyway.
 
2013-05-09 07:46:56 PM  

radarlove: Okay, this is probably a longshot and I know that, but...does anyone in this thread have any experience with or know anyone who has experience with the use of ECT or Trans-cranial Electromagnets in the treatment of depression?


They were offered as a last resort to me, thankfully a cocktail of meds, talk and group therapy and not drinking half a gallon of vodka daily kicked in and I felt better before I needed to go that far. I used to know someone who did go with ECT though and while it kind of left them with a lost week or two that they couldn't remember it did sort of reset their emotions at a slightly sub-normal level and got them going again. Find a good Psychiatrist and talk to them about it.
 
2013-05-09 07:47:54 PM  

TaterTot_HotDish: cherryl taggart: I think I'm seeing that in my house right now.  It worries me that I don't know how to help the injured parties, and I don't want to make it worse, especially after reading her reactions to well meaning idiots.

I'm scared.

Well, it's a scary thing.  You can't make anyone get better, or even make them want to get better. They have to 1) notice that it's a problem and 2) work really, really hard every day to make it better.

You might be able to help with 1.  2 is ultimately up to them, (although you can provide financial and emotional support).

I think the best way to deal with a depressed person is the way as with anyone who is sick.  Be real.  Don't pretend that they're not sick, or pretend they're not hurting.  The fish are dead.  That sucks.  Be there with them while it sucks.  Show them you care about them anyway.


I should have also said, best of luck to you.  I hope things will get better.
 
2013-05-09 07:48:02 PM  

Mentalpatient87: [data.whicdn.com image 500x691]
Oh, and I like this one, too.


Thank you. I just spent ten minutes trying to find that.
 
2013-05-09 07:48:27 PM  
I'm so glad that Allie is back.  (((Hyperbole-and-a-half-girl)))

Oh my dear god, her description of depression resonated loud and, well, depressingly.

/chronic depression since highschool.  Now 50.  SSRIs help, having loving friends helps.
 
2013-05-09 07:49:01 PM  

my alt's alt's alt: radarlove: Okay, this is probably a longshot and I know that, but...does anyone in this thread have any experience with or know anyone who has experience with the use of ECT or Trans-cranial Electromagnets in the treatment of depression?

Yes. A family friend lost 7 years of her memory, then got brain cancer and died after ECT (may or may not have been related). I'm wary of its therapeutic value.


Do you get to pick the 7 years?  Because there are at least seven I'd like to wipe out entirely sometimes.  And the risk of brain cancer and *gasp!* death really doesn't mean much to a depressed person.

/They should hire us for all the most dangerous and lucrative jobs.
//Like Fark admin.
 
2013-05-09 07:49:24 PM  

cherryl taggart: I think I'm seeing that in my house right now.  It worries me that I don't know how to help the injured parties, and I don't want to make it worse, especially after reading her reactions to well meaning idiots.

I'm scared.


I'm seeing that in me right now.

/having a little mini-crisis atm. You're telling me I have PTSD AND clinical depression? WTF???
//and that thought made me thinking of grabbing a gun. . . hmm. . .
 
2013-05-09 07:50:19 PM  

Peki: thinking


think, ffs, think!!

/I have a B.A. in English, I swear. I just need to go back to school to get it all back.
 
2013-05-09 07:50:48 PM  

James F. Campbell: JRoo: Emotions are just roadblocks on the path to higher intelligence.

Sounds like the credo of a psychopath.


Fringe motherfarker!

Did you watch it?!
 
2013-05-09 07:51:29 PM  

Hyperbolic Hyperbole: sometimes I think she's me.

could just be the fark handle, though.


oi39.tinypic.com
NOT SURE IF SERIOUS

 
2013-05-09 07:51:38 PM  

patchvonbraun: Oh my dear god, her description of depression resonated loud and, well, depressingly.


I'm really glad to see that I'm not the only person that actually felt more depressed after reading that, lol.
 
2013-05-09 07:51:44 PM  
that was a really good article.  much more in touch with depression than i'd expected.

i'd forgotten that so many of these familiar images came from her blog but i love the doodles-cum-artwork.  i think an ALOT tattoo (small and out of the way) would be neat if i was interested in getting an internet meme for a tattoo.
 
2013-05-09 07:54:44 PM  

Elandriel: CruJones: megarian: Shadow Blasko: The corn isn't always good.

I'm just saying ... been there. My "corn" moment was when I realized I had completely snapped and needed professional supervision.

Corn moments are milestones... sometimes good, sometines bad. Always traumatic.

/SSRI Withdrawal syndrome sucks ASS

My "corn moment" involved a melted action figure in a Detroit FreePress mailbox.

Recently. I have a long way to go. I still can't feel sad or guilt or happy. I haven't been able to have sex for pleasure in 5 years (I'm in my late-mid-twenties, so it's a problem...haven't even dated anyone in 2 years because I don't want to mislead anyone).

So if not for pleasure, for.... cash?

/I couldn't get into this, I didn't even make it to the depression part
//WTF are those little doodles in the headline?

I couldn't make a Unicode rainbow so I settled for a heart...or close-ish to one. Allie deserves hearts. This post is very poignant and as shown by the thread a lot of people identify closely with it.


I thought it was a joint at first...

And I see people identify with it, I just couldn't get far enough in I guess.  I got bored with the stuffed animals and didn't get to anything substantial.
 
2013-05-09 07:56:34 PM  

megarian: I don't want so sound like something I'm not. I like things about sex. I have never had an orgasm and that's not my focus. I like being physical and look at it as a sport...as in I want to make the other person have a really REALLY good time. So that's the goal and I am willing to work for it. But as far as me getting off? Not going to happen. I can do it manually but it takes a while and is not worth the effort. I like sex, though. I get a lot of information and mental pleasure through sex. I like aerobic activity.


You need to leave Detroit.
 
2013-05-09 07:57:33 PM  
That is more true than anyone without depression can hope to understand.
 
2013-05-09 07:57:41 PM  
Depression - it's peaceful.

/ at least there's that
// but yeah, not much else
 
2013-05-09 07:59:29 PM  

radarlove: megarian: radarlove: Okay, this is probably a longshot and I know that, but...does anyone in this thread have any experience with or know anyone who has experience with the use of ECT or Trans-cranial Electromagnets in the treatment of depression?

I do. I am an intern, though. What do you want to know?

Mainly, how effective is it in someone who has run the gamut of SSRIs and Tricyclics and such but for whom those only exacerbated the depression?  Also, how difficult is it to find someone qualified and reliable to do it, and can a fella like me make you, the taxpayer, foot the bill?


I wish I had a better answer:

It completely depends. As an intern, I see three things: a month or so before, the day of, and every week after until discharge. Most have wonderful results...more with the electromagnetic response than the ECT. The ECT are usually more of an overdose-of-barbiturate effect. The magnetic responses are delayed but they seems to be more long term. The ETCs are usually pretty far-gone...I would say half are catatonic before treatment. But I have seen 10 or so (out of the 30 or 40 ECTs that I have seen) make some serious, remarkable recovery. 7 that I know personally are doing very well and are actually a productive person now. The 'magnets have an even better outcome. This is not scientific, this is just what I have see. The 'magnets are doing well, but insurance is sort of a factor here. Out of the ~20 I have seen, 9 of them are extremely responsive, and 7 of them are out of inpatient care for the last 6 months when they usually go back for mental treatment within the next 2 months if discharge. The ECTs come back within a year or so. Less severe, but it happens.
 
2013-05-09 08:00:44 PM  

CynicalLA: megarian: I don't want so sound like something I'm not. I like things about sex. I have never had an orgasm and that's not my focus. I like being physical and look at it as a sport...as in I want to make the other person have a really REALLY good time. So that's the goal and I am willing to work for it. But as far as me getting off? Not going to happen. I can do it manually but it takes a while and is not worth the effort. I like sex, though. I get a lot of information and mental pleasure through sex. I like aerobic activity.

You need to leave Detroit.


I don't mind Detroit. Maybe it's symptomatic?
 
2013-05-09 08:02:08 PM  
...

BAP!
 
2013-05-09 08:03:32 PM  
I'm glad to see Allie back. Whenever I need to smile at something, her amusing posts tickle my funny bone. Been struggling with clinical depression for a pretty long time myself. Mine is incredibly frustrating to me because it's just bad enough to cripple me sometimes and yet, it was too easy to justify not getting help. Yeah, yeah, cool story bro, etc.

Tricyclics and SSRIs SUCK.

/on Wellbutrin
//and Adderall
///Ativan for panic attacks
////slashies!
 
2013-05-09 08:03:42 PM  
I want to say this is the truest thing I've ever read in relation to how I feel in my real life.  I've NEVER been able to articulate it, and this article/cartoon/essay described it EXACTLY.  Word for WORD how I'd imagine the perfect way of saying it.  I'm really, really touched.  Well..as much as I can BE touched.  I suppose I will keep looking for my piece of corn.
 
2013-05-09 08:04:18 PM  

radarlove: patchvonbraun: Oh my dear god, her description of depression resonated loud and, well, depressingly.

I'm really glad to see that I'm not the only person that actually felt more depressed after reading that, lol.


I started looking at it and caught the jist and decided I'd better stop reading. At least for right now.
/Hope this work out okay for ya..
 
2013-05-09 08:04:44 PM  

MarkEC: Quantum Apostrophe: [www.tandyonline.co.uk image 492x492]

What does the most common NPN transistor in the world have to do with this thread?


I'm guessing it's a bipolar transistor?
 
2013-05-09 08:05:01 PM  

megarian: CynicalLA: megarian: I don't want so sound like something I'm not. I like things about sex. I have never had an orgasm and that's not my focus. I like being physical and look at it as a sport...as in I want to make the other person have a really REALLY good time. So that's the goal and I am willing to work for it. But as far as me getting off? Not going to happen. I can do it manually but it takes a while and is not worth the effort. I like sex, though. I get a lot of information and mental pleasure through sex. I like aerobic activity.

You need to leave Detroit.

I don't mind Detroit. Maybe it's symptomatic?


I was joking but I heard it isn't what it used to be.  The grass isn't always greener.  And changing locations is no way to try and help depression.
 
2013-05-09 08:06:44 PM  

Alexei Novikov: I'm glad to see Allie back. Whenever I need to smile at something, her amusing posts tickle my funny bone. Been struggling with clinical depression for a pretty long time myself. Mine is incredibly frustrating to me because it's just bad enough to cripple me sometimes and yet, it was too easy to justify not getting help. Yeah, yeah, cool story bro, etc.

Tricyclics and SSRIs SUCK.

/on Wellbutrin
//and Adderall
///Ativan for panic attacks
////slashies!


Adderall is a serious drug and hopefully you are taking it for the right reasons.
 
2013-05-09 08:08:22 PM  
Should have embraced buddhism or some other philosophy when she was having the existential breakdown about everything being pointless. There's absolutely nothing wrong with thinking that, and it can lead to a new, more honest, way to be happy. Instead it seems her road to happiness is to continue trying to be happy about the meaningless and superficial crap she became disillusioned with.

/"Products and TV shows give my life meaning!"
 
2013-05-09 08:09:23 PM  

CynicalLA: megarian: CynicalLA: megarian: I don't want so sound like something I'm not. I like things about sex. I have never had an orgasm and that's not my focus. I like being physical and look at it as a sport...as in I want to make the other person have a really REALLY good time. So that's the goal and I am willing to work for it. But as far as me getting off? Not going to happen. I can do it manually but it takes a while and is not worth the effort. I like sex, though. I get a lot of information and mental pleasure through sex. I like aerobic activity.

You need to leave Detroit.

I don't mind Detroit. Maybe it's symptomatic?

I was joking but I heard it isn't what it used to be.  The grass isn't always greener.  And changing locations is no way to try and help depression.


Really: Detroit sucks. People get shot...often. And no one really cares. But I've sort of been fascinated by the strange degradation...and I have jobs that I *love* and I get to interact with the actual inhabitants of Detroit everyday. They're messed up, but pretty cool and they have a lot of interesting, shockingly humanistic awesome things to say. I do mental health and social work, so I see a lot to ridiculous assholes, too. And they SUCK.
 
2013-05-09 08:11:50 PM  
Damn, that hits a bit close to home...
 
2013-05-09 08:12:28 PM  

radarlove: Okay, this is probably a longshot and I know that, but...does anyone in this thread have any experience with or know anyone who has experience with the use of ECT or Trans-cranial Electromagnets in the treatment of depression?


I know someone who had the magnet thing done and it seems to have helped. They still have other issues, but the depressive component (not enjoying doing anything, withdrawing, etc.) seems to be gone.
 
2013-05-09 08:13:17 PM  
Have any of you sad sacks tried manning (or womanning) up and dealing with things? Depression is like adhd, namely that its not a real thing.
 
2013-05-09 08:15:25 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Have any of you sad sacks tried manning (or womanning) up and dealing with things? Depression is like adhd, namely that its not a real thing.


10/10

You will do well with this derp, and catch many a fish. You, sir/madam, are the Westboro Baptist Church of trolls!
 
2013-05-09 08:16:58 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Should have embraced buddhism or some other philosophy when she was having the existential breakdown about everything being pointless...


Oh ffs, don't even start with this. This isn't the thread for proselytizing.
 
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