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2013-05-09 05:09:07 PM  
Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!
 
2013-05-09 05:11:09 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!



Subvert democracy, obviously.
 
2013-05-09 05:11:33 PM  
Party before country every single time

/it's not even news anymore
 
2013-05-09 05:13:07 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!


i.imgur.com

We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!
 
2013-05-09 05:13:29 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!


be the loyal opposition and put country ahead of party?

NAH.
 
2013-05-09 05:15:35 PM  

Blues_X: Subvert democracy, obviously.


This doesn't even make sense! They were elected too. Should they just roll over and let things they know are a bad idea go though?!

Car_Ramrod: We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!


If you think they haven't put forwards some ideas then you not paying attention. Try reading something other than the Huff Post and Mother Jones.
 
2013-05-09 05:16:14 PM  

FlashHarry: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!

be the loyal opposition and put country ahead of party?

NAH.


Want to take odds what course the Dems take next time the pendulum swings and they are the minority?  (hint:  last time they obstructed too).  It's the game.  Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.
 
2013-05-09 05:21:03 PM  

remus: FlashHarry: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!

be the loyal opposition and put country ahead of party?

NAH.

Want to take odds what course the Dems take next time the pendulum swings and they are the minority?  (hint:  last time they obstructed too).  It's the game.  Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.


Actually it ratchets up a level with each successive passing of the White House to the other party.  However, with Obama being the half breed socialist Muslim usurper that he is, the GOP has pushed a little harder than usual this time around.

I still believe that the Democrats to some degree have an interest in governing.  The GOP, on the other hand, farks everything up on purpose and then says "See? government doesn't work!".  That's the fundamental difference.
 
2013-05-09 05:22:31 PM  
i.usatoday.net

"Needless obstructionism: It's what's for dinner."
 
2013-05-09 05:23:08 PM  

remus: last time they obstructed too)


not even remotely close to what republicans are doing. comparing the two is like comparing a grain of sand to the sahara farking desert.
 
2013-05-09 05:24:42 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: This doesn't even make sense! They were elected too. Should they just roll over and let things they know are a bad idea go though?!


no, but they've even filibustered their own bills
 
2013-05-09 05:25:40 PM  

remus: Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.


filibusted.us
 
2013-05-09 05:26:16 PM  
shiat. by the way, if you couldn't tell, those are cloture votes.
 
2013-05-09 05:28:26 PM  

FlashHarry: shiat. by the way, if you couldn't tell, those are cloture votes.


It looks like it's the assholes fault.
 
2013-05-09 05:28:30 PM  
Its only the EPA. No big deal. The EPA sucks anyway. Just a lot of government red tape and regulations.

i.i.com.com
assets.nydailynews.com

Right?
 
2013-05-09 05:28:50 PM  

ManateeGag: no, but they've even filibustered their own bills


I know.

I have no idea why he did that. He should have let it go. It was a good idea and he could have taken some credit for it.

That was just too weird by half
 
2013-05-09 05:29:46 PM  
More like we're stopping you irresponsible farks from spending this country into ruin.
 
2013-05-09 05:30:12 PM  

remus: FlashHarry: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!

be the loyal opposition and put country ahead of party?

NAH.

Want to take odds what course the Dems take next time the pendulum swings and they are the minority?  (hint:  last time they obstructed too).  It's the game.  Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.


You are not allowed to invoke the past. Take it back.
 
2013-05-09 05:30:14 PM  

FlashHarry: remus: Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.

[filibusted.us image 460x338]


OMFG!  You posted a chart without labeled axes or a title!  I'm defenseless to your onslaught.  I cower beneath your overwhelming logic.  Your chart shows LINES!!  OH NOES!!!!  I bow before you master
 
2013-05-09 05:30:49 PM  

themindiswatching: More like we're stopping you irresponsible farks from spending this country into ruin.


If by "you irresponsible farks" you mean the GOP?
 
2013-05-09 05:31:25 PM  

remus: FlashHarry: remus: Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.

[filibusted.us image 460x338]

OMFG!  You posted a chart without labeled axes or a title!  I'm defenseless to your onslaught.  I cower beneath your overwhelming logic.  Your chart shows LINES!!  OH NOES!!!!  I bow before you master


Maybe you should have read the entire thread before you faux outraged all over it.
 
2013-05-09 05:31:40 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Blues_X: Subvert democracy, obviously.

This doesn't even make sense! They were elected too. Should they just roll over and let things they know are a bad idea go though?!

Car_Ramrod: We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!

If you think they haven't put forwards some ideas then you not paying attention. Try reading something other than the Huff Post and Mother Jones.


www.readyshare.com
Outlawing abortion and repealing Obamacare are kinds of ideas.
 
2013-05-09 05:32:00 PM  

FlashHarry: shiat. by the way, if you couldn't tell, those are cloture votes.


Are both sides still bad? Should I vote republican?
 
2013-05-09 05:32:23 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: remus: FlashHarry: remus: Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.

[filibusted.us image 460x338]

OMFG!  You posted a chart without labeled axes or a title!  I'm defenseless to your onslaught.  I cower beneath your overwhelming logic.  Your chart shows LINES!!  OH NOES!!!!  I bow before you master

Maybe you should have read the entire thread before you faux outraged all over it.


Nah, it was fun.
 
2013-05-09 05:32:26 PM  

remus: OMFG!  You posted a chart without labeled axes or a title!  I'm defenseless to your onslaught.  I cower beneath your overwhelming logic.  Your chart shows LINES!!  OH NOES!!!!  I bow before you master


FlashHarry: shiat. by the way, if you couldn't tell, those are cloture votes.


reading is fundamental.
 
2013-05-09 05:32:38 PM  

themindiswatching: More like we're stopping you irresponsible farks from spending this country into ruin.


cache.ohinternet.com
 
2013-05-09 05:32:46 PM  

remus: cameroncrazy1984: remus: FlashHarry: remus: Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.

[filibusted.us image 460x338]

OMFG!  You posted a chart without labeled axes or a title!  I'm defenseless to your onslaught.  I cower beneath your overwhelming logic.  Your chart shows LINES!!  OH NOES!!!!  I bow before you master

Maybe you should have read the entire thread before you faux outraged all over it.

Nah, it was fun.


What, being wrong? That's fun for you? Well you're in the right place!
 
2013-05-09 05:32:51 PM  

remus: FlashHarry: remus: Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.

[filibusted.us image 460x338]

OMFG!  You posted a chart without labeled axes or a title!  I'm defenseless to your onslaught.  I cower beneath your overwhelming logic.  Your chart shows LINES!!  OH NOES!!!!  I bow before you master


I'd stop posting in this thread if I were you.
 
2013-05-09 05:33:19 PM  

FlashHarry: remus: OMFG!  You posted a chart without labeled axes or a title!  I'm defenseless to your onslaught.  I cower beneath your overwhelming logic.  Your chart shows LINES!!  OH NOES!!!!  I bow before you master

FlashHarry: shiat. by the way, if you couldn't tell, those are cloture votes.

reading is fundamental.


Labeling your charts is fundamental too....  ;-)
 
2013-05-09 05:33:23 PM  

remus: FlashHarry: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!

be the loyal opposition and put country ahead of party?

NAH.

Want to take odds what course the Dems take next time the pendulum swings and they are the minority?  (hint:  last time they obstructed too).  It's the game.  Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.


The assertion that Democrats are even remotely capable of pulling off the sane stunt with 40 seats is laughable.
 
2013-05-09 05:33:37 PM  

themindiswatching: More like we're stopping you irresponsible farks from spending this country into ruin.


Little late, after eight Chimpy years. But thanks for your suddenly realized concerns.
 
2013-05-09 05:33:42 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: If you think they haven't put forwards some ideas then you not paying attention.


This is accurate as long as you claim that shiatting on a table and calling it a bill is an idea.
 
2013-05-09 05:34:18 PM  
btw, the brown line is for cloture votes introduced, and the green is cloture votes passed.
 
2013-05-09 05:34:36 PM  

Superjew: The Stealth Hippopotamus: If you think they haven't put forwards some ideas then you not paying attention.

This is accurate as long as you claim that shiatting on a table and calling it a bill is an idea.


Well he didn't say they were "good" ideas.
 
2013-05-09 05:34:56 PM  

remus: Labeling your charts is fundamental too....  ;-)


hence my "shiat," immediately following. ;-)
 
2013-05-09 05:35:58 PM  

Biological Ali: remus: FlashHarry: remus: Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.

[filibusted.us image 460x338]

OMFG!  You posted a chart without labeled axes or a title!  I'm defenseless to your onslaught.  I cower beneath your overwhelming logic.  Your chart shows LINES!!  OH NOES!!!!  I bow before you master

I'd stop posting in this thread if I were you.


www.lolbrary.com
 
2013-05-09 05:36:27 PM  

themindiswatching: More like we're stopping you irresponsible farks from spending this country into ruin.


That sentiment will go out the window the very second the GOP takes over the White House again.  You won't hear another peep about fiscal responsibility.
 
2013-05-09 05:37:26 PM  

FlashHarry: remus: Labeling your charts is fundamental too....  ;-)

hence my "shiat," immediately following. ;-)


Not to worry, I knew who the brown line was.

So does everyone else.
 
2013-05-09 05:39:19 PM  
I don't think the Founding Fathers ever imagined the day where American statesmen would waste everyone's time and explicitly choose not to serve the American people.  They never saw it coming.
 
2013-05-09 05:39:47 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: remus: cameroncrazy1984: remus: FlashHarry: remus: Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.

[filibusted.us image 460x338]

OMFG!  You posted a chart without labeled axes or a title!  I'm defenseless to your onslaught.  I cower beneath your overwhelming logic.  Your chart shows LINES!!  OH NOES!!!!  I bow before you master

Maybe you should have read the entire thread before you faux outraged all over it.

Nah, it was fun.

What, being wrong? That's fun for you? Well you're in the right place!


The perfect Republican voter.  Proud of his ignorance and only cares about sticking it to the libs.
 
2013-05-09 05:40:45 PM  
As soon as the Feds bust down the doors of Congress and Arrest every single on of them GOP Rats that have publicly and basically said they are being terrorists by obstructing America and its economy and its peoples health,, then we will see the republicans start working for the people.

That also includes any politician who has plead allegiance to Americas number one enemy, Israel, as well.

/The feds can also pay a visit to all those red states that have ignored that abortion is legal, in order for the politicians who have practically banned abortion in those states to be also arrested.
//Maybe Rick Perry can be busted for his murder of 15 people in the fertilizer plant explosion due to his 'no regulations' pledges.
 
2013-05-09 05:41:19 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!


Work with the majority party to craft legislation that benefits the country, instead of throwing a temper tantrum?

Seriously, 37 (and counting) attempts to repeal Obamacare, numerous anti-abortion bills with no chance in Hell of passing, multiple partisan witch hunts, getting America's credit downgraded by refusing to raise the debt ceiling (to pay for spending THEY ALREADY AUTHORIZED) until the last minute...Does that sound like sane government to you?
 
2013-05-09 05:41:20 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: themindiswatching: More like we're stopping you irresponsible farks from spending this country into ruin.

That sentiment will go out the window the very second the GOP takes over the White House again.  You won't hear another peep about fiscal responsibility.


Also, the only "Republican" in the last century who actually practiced fiscal responsibility was Eisenhower. All claims that Republicans are "fiscally responsible" are false.
 
2013-05-09 05:41:28 PM  

FlashHarry: remus: Labeling your charts is fundamental too....  ;-)

hence my "shiat," immediately following. ;-)


hehe  I'm in the middle of writing the engineering test plan for one of my programs, I needed the lulz.  I got to get back to mind and soul sucking test condition matrices now to simulate three lifetimes of endurance for my design.  ///this is why I stopped getting TF a few years ago...  too distracting.
 
2013-05-09 05:42:13 PM  
www.thefiscaltimes.com

Is this enough labeling?
 
2013-05-09 05:42:13 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Well he didn't say they were "good" ideas.


of course you're not going to think it's a good idea. If you thought they were good ideas you'd be a Republican. Just like if I thought Democrats had good ideas I'd be a Democrat! It's just simple logic! No one get's it wrong on purpose.

And yes Democrats are obstructionists when they are out of power. And yes Republics are more so when they are out of power. But that makes sense! If you think the government has the answer then you feel the need to keep it up and running if you think that government is the problem then you have no problem grinding it to a halt.
 
2013-05-09 05:43:07 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!


It sounds like you sincerely believe that the only legitimate role for a minority party is to prevent the majority from accomplishing anything. How, then, is the government supposed to govern, as there is always a minority? Since you seem so dead-set against democracy and republicanism, what is your preferred form of government?
 
2013-05-09 05:44:02 PM  
The joke here is I photoshopped "The Onion" on a CNN article (IIRC, it might have been another news source).

growlersoftware.com
 
2013-05-09 05:44:49 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: If you thought they were good ideas you'd be a Republican.


If I thought they were good ideas I'd have an IQ about 40 points lower.
 
2013-05-09 05:45:18 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: And yes Democrats are obstructionists when they are out of power. And yes Republics are more so when they are out of power.


Would you say they're displaying an "historic level of obstructionism"?
 
2013-05-09 05:45:31 PM  

themindiswatching: More like we're stopping you irresponsible farks from spending this country into ruin.


secure.assets.bostatic.com
 
2013-05-09 05:46:59 PM  

impaler: [www.thefiscaltimes.com image 587x549]

Is this enough labeling?


That doesn't count. Because, uh, socialism and stuff. BENGHAAAAAZI!
 
2013-05-09 05:47:05 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: The Stealth Hippopotamus: If you thought they were good ideas you'd be a Republican.

If I thought they were good ideas I'd have an IQ about 40 points lower.


And those are different how?
 
2013-05-09 05:47:56 PM  

DarwiOdrade: cameroncrazy1984: The Stealth Hippopotamus: If you thought they were good ideas you'd be a Republican.

If I thought they were good ideas I'd have an IQ about 40 points lower.

And those are different how?


Fair point.
 
2013-05-09 05:51:34 PM  

impaler: Would you say they're displaying an "historic level of obstructionism"?


nope. Not even close. They have even shut the government down yet.
 
2013-05-09 05:53:14 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: impaler: Would you say they're displaying an "historic level of obstructionism"?

nope. Not even close. They have even shut the government down yet.


They learned that lesson in the 90s - I guess there may be hope for them yet, once they get over the fact that Obama beat them like a drum twice.
 
2013-05-09 05:54:26 PM  
m.static.newsvine.com
 
2013-05-09 05:54:32 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: nope. Not even close. They have even shut the government down yet.


So true.

No problems with flights or anything...
 
2013-05-09 05:54:52 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: impaler: Would you say they're displaying an "historic level of obstructionism"?

nope. Not even close. They have even shut the government down yet.


No, but they have used a record amount of filibusters and got the US credit rating downgraded by taking the debt limit hostage for the first time ever. That's pretty historic, wouldn't you say?
 
2013-05-09 05:55:17 PM  
I hope that for every child in the US that goes hungry or without healthcare due to Congresses inaction, that one of their children meets the same demise.
 
2013-05-09 05:57:24 PM  

remus: Both sides do it when they are in the minority.


BOTH SIDES ARE BAD!
 
2013-05-09 05:57:50 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: No, but they have used a record amount of filibusters and got the US credit rating downgraded by taking the debt limit hostage for the first time ever. That's pretty historic, wouldn't you say?


They are sharpening their knives and getting ready to do it all over again, too.   You know, because it went so well the first time.  I wonder if they will take credit for and give blame to Obama for the next sequester?
 
2013-05-09 05:58:09 PM  
img267.imageshack.us
 
2013-05-09 05:58:43 PM  
thinkprogress.org

Party of small government, please save us.
 
2013-05-09 05:59:49 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: impaler: Would you say they're displaying an "historic level of obstructionism"?

nope. Not even close. They have even shut the government down yet.


Pining for Newt? Newt mostly comes out at night.  Mostly.


assets.nydailynews.com

I  TWEEKA JOOR NEEEPLES
 
2013-05-09 06:00:40 PM  

themindiswatching: More like we're stopping you irresponsible farks from spending this country into ruin.


Like when Bush put 2 expensive wars on the national credit card, forced Medicare part B, and other wastes of money.
 
2013-05-09 06:00:56 PM  
The nice thing about being in the minority is that now white Americans can apply for better business loans and cheaper college tuition... I would say 'White is the new Black', but that would discount the Chinese that built the railroads.

http://www.usagovernmentgrants.org/grants_for_minorities.html
 
2013-05-09 06:04:01 PM  

Slappy McLongstockings: The nice thing about being in the minority is that now white Americans can apply for better business loans and cheaper college tuition... I would say 'White is the new Black', but that would discount the Chinese that built the railroads.

http://www.usagovernmentgrants.org/grants_for_minorities.html


I know you're new here and all, but are you in the right thread?
 
2013-05-09 06:04:29 PM  

remus: FlashHarry: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!

be the loyal opposition and put country ahead of party?

NAH.

Want to take odds what course the Dems take next time the pendulum swings and they are the minority?  (hint:  last time they obstructed too).  It's the game.  Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.


d.gr-assets.com

And these guys are hardly liberal partisan hacks.
 
2013-05-09 06:04:51 PM  

impaler: So true.

No problems with flights or anything...



Political theater that you can hardly blame on the Republicans.


cameroncrazy1984: No, but they have used a record amount of filibusters


So ok with this. If you want a vote now and figure out what's in it Congress go right ahead. I'm thankful they are slowing that type of shiat down.

cameroncrazy1984: got the US credit rating downgraded by taking the debt limit hostage


in part. But the large part was/is the debt-to-GDP ratio.

I like the way Daniel Indiviglio the Atlantic put it:
But S&P must be counting on more than just Republicans acting insanely enough to cause default: Democrats would have to act just as irresponsibly. After all, spending and entitlement cuts alone can easily allow the U.S. to avoid default. The agency makes this point, saying that the nation needs entitlement cuts and/or more tax revenue. S&P must assume that Democrats, like Republicans, could reach a limit of how much they'll concede and just let the U.S. economy burn on mere principle.
 
2013-05-09 06:05:08 PM  
Why can't people just do exactly what the President wants all the time?

IT'S NOT FAIR!
 
2013-05-09 06:06:43 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: After all, spending and entitlement cuts alone can easily allow the U.S. to avoid default.


wat?
 
2013-05-09 06:07:01 PM  

DarwiOdrade: themindiswatching: More like we're stopping you irresponsible farks from spending this country into ruin.

[cache.ohinternet.com image 562x437]


I know. Looks like someone woke up in 2009.
 
2013-05-09 06:07:03 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Blues_X: Subvert democracy, obviously.

This doesn't even make sense! They were elected too. Should they just roll over and let things they know are a bad idea go though?!

Car_Ramrod: We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!

If you think they haven't put forwards some ideas then you not paying attention. Try reading something other than the Huff Post and Mother Jones.


Making 37 unsuccessful attempts to repeal the President's landmark legislation is not really what I'd call 'putting forwards some ideas'.
 
2013-05-09 06:07:41 PM  

cabbyman: Why can't people just do exactly what the President wants all the time?

IT'S NOT FAIR!


Sometimes, I wish Obama were actually as bad as Bush. That would have been hilarious.
 
2013-05-09 06:08:00 PM  
 
2013-05-09 06:08:18 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-09 06:08:58 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Slappy McLongstockings: The nice thing about being in the minority is that now white Americans can apply for better business loans and cheaper college tuition... I would say 'White is the new Black', but that would discount the Chinese that built the railroads.

http://www.usagovernmentgrants.org/grants_for_minorities.html

I know you're new here and all, but are you in the right thread?


Isn't this the 'What Would a Minority Do?' thread?
 
2013-05-09 06:09:11 PM  
this is actually quite simple reasoning on behalf of the Republicans, they would not consider their actions obstructionism for the simple fact that they don't see this country as the multi-cultural-racial-religious-mixed bag-o-nuts & everything under the sun that it is.

they see it as their country, not ours.

they aren't obstructing, they are cleansing.
 
2013-05-09 06:09:49 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: So ok with this. If you want a vote now and figure out what's in it Congress go right ahead. I'm thankful they are slowing that type of shiat down.


They're not "slowing" it down. They're stopping it completely. They're shutting things down that even get GOP votes, like the background check bill. You're seriously telling me that every single bill ought to get 60 votes? That's not how democracy is supposed to work.
 
2013-05-09 06:10:18 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: wat?


You see on one side of the equation you have costs and on the other side you have revenue. If you must have more revenue than costs you have two choices: cut costs or increase revenue.


Rueened: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Blues_X: Subvert democracy, obviously.

This doesn't even make sense! They were elected too. Should they just roll over and let things they know are a bad idea go though?!

Car_Ramrod: We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!

If you think they haven't put forwards some ideas then you not paying attention. Try reading something other than the Huff Post and Mother Jones.

Making 37 unsuccessful attempts to repeal the President's landmark legislation is not really what I'd call 'putting forwards some ideas'.


They're doing more than that. That's just a few hours of their day.
 
2013-05-09 06:11:08 PM  

cabbyman: Why can't people just do exactly what the President wants all the time?

IT'S NOT FAIR!


"Do what the President wants" or "Stop the President from doing anything of value at all".

This is the mind of the modern conservative. Extremes only, no nuance or middle ground.

And people wonder why young generations think Republicans are worthless.
 
2013-05-09 06:11:48 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: The Stealth Hippopotamus: So ok with this. If you want a vote now and figure out what's in it Congress go right ahead. I'm thankful they are slowing that type of shiat down.

They're not "slowing" it down. They're stopping it completely. They're shutting things down that even get GOP votes, like the background check bill. You're seriously telling me that every single bill ought to get 60 votes? That's not how democracy is supposed to work.


Reid seems perfectly happy with that system.
 
2013-05-09 06:11:51 PM  
There's nothing wrong with the GOP that a flamethrower and a nailgun wouldn't fix.
 
2013-05-09 06:11:51 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: wat?


The sky is the limit, so long as you're willing to completely gut the social safety net.
 
2013-05-09 06:12:06 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: They're doing more than that. That's just a few hours of their day.


Of course. The rest of the time they're trying to outlaw abortion. How silly of us to forget.

You pretending Republicans are contributing anything of value to modern governance is kinda sad.
 
2013-05-09 06:12:08 PM  

Without Fail: remus: Both sides do it when they are in the minority.

BOTH SIDES ARE BAD!


SVR.
 
2013-05-09 06:12:23 PM  
Wow, the republicans in this thread are being beaten like a rented mule. It's almost sad.
 
2013-05-09 06:12:40 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: cameroncrazy1984: No, but they have used a record amount of filibusters

So ok with this. If you want a vote now and figure out what's in it Congress go right ahead. I'm thankful they are slowing that type of shiat down.


You do realize that what they're slowing down is doing their farking jobs, right?  This is not, "OMG, if we don't threaten to filibuster the Democrats are going to pass this horrible bill!"  This is "OMG, if we don't threaten to filibuster we might have to actually do our jobs and discuss this bill!"
 
2013-05-09 06:13:20 PM  
The Republican Party is not better at cutting spending.
The Republican Party is not better at defending the country.
The Republican Party is not better at reducing the size of government.

All of these statement are easily documented facts.

So why do people vote for them?
 
2013-05-09 06:13:23 PM  

un4gvn666: cabbyman: Why can't people just do exactly what the President wants all the time?

IT'S NOT FAIR!

"Do what the President wants" or "Stop the President from doing anything of value at all".

This is the mind of the modern conservative. Extremes only, no nuance or middle ground.

And people wonder why young generations think Republicans are worthless.


Stopping bad bills from becoming law is more important than passing a good law.

WE ARE WINNING!!!
 
2013-05-09 06:14:06 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: You see on one side of the equation you have costs and on the other side you have revenue. If you must have more revenue than costs you have two choices: cut costs or increase revenue.


You see, raising the debt limit or defaulting on the debt has nothing to do with costs or revenue.  Congress already approved the spending.  Now they don't want to pay the bill.  Spending and entitlement cuts won't do dick all to the debt ceiling.

Why am I bothering with you?  I've seen you troll and you do it better than this.  Enjoy the day.  The field is yours.
 
2013-05-09 06:14:22 PM  
Ew. I'm gonna leave little paw prints of shiat everywhere after I wade outta here.
 
2013-05-09 06:14:52 PM  
 
2013-05-09 06:15:05 PM  

Teufelaffe: The Stealth Hippopotamus: cameroncrazy1984: No, but they have used a record amount of filibusters

So ok with this. If you want a vote now and figure out what's in it Congress go right ahead. I'm thankful they are slowing that type of shiat down.

You do realize that what they're slowing down is doing their farking jobs, right?  This is not, "OMG, if we don't threaten to filibuster the Democrats are going to pass this horrible bill!"  This is "OMG, if we don't threaten to filibuster we might have to actually do our jobs and discuss this bill!"


Absolutely true. While the ultimate goal is to stop a Democratic President from achieving anything substantial (too late, btw, assholes. Obamacare ring a bell?), Republicans are using the filibuster to give them cover from having to explain their incredibly stupid, irresponsible, and provably false ideas on every modern policy in this country. A filibuster keeps them from making fools of themselves in public view.
 
2013-05-09 06:15:30 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: They're not "slowing" it down. They're stopping it completely. They're shutting things down that even get GOP votes, like the background check bill. You're seriously telling me that every single bill ought to get 60 votes? That's not how democracy is supposed to work.


Now you're just being silly. They haven't stopped it completely. We got the air traffic controllers back to work didn't we?


un4gvn666: And people wonder why young generations think Republicans are worthless.


You may want to check that again. They think both parties are worthless, and I'm starting to think they are right.

However the majority party whining about not getting their way it just sad
 
2013-05-09 06:15:49 PM  

cabbyman: Stopping bad bills from becoming law is more important than passing a good law.


un4gvn666: This is the mind of the modern conservative.

 
2013-05-09 06:15:54 PM  
www.charlock.org

No really, you guys are actually causing serious damage to the country.
 
2013-05-09 06:16:36 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Political theater that you can hardly blame on the Republicans.


Yes...anytime a consequence of the sequester is on display, it's just "political theater".

It's like the Republicans didn't realize there are consequences to the sequester just like there are consequences to every decision one makes in their lives.

"Alright, let's cut some spending"
"What? You didn't tell me that was going to include the air traffic controllers. This is all Obama's fault!"
 
2013-05-09 06:17:06 PM  

Without Fail: The Republican Party is not better at cutting spending.
The Republican Party is not better at defending the country.
The Republican Party is not better at reducing the size of government.

All of these statement are easily documented facts.

So why do people vote for them?


White Jesus tells them to.
 
2013-05-09 06:17:14 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: They think both parties are worthless


No. False. Wrong. Typical of a modern conservative.

Obama routinely gets high approval ratings while Republican approval is in the shiatter.

Young people support Democrats more than Republicans, and for obvious reasons.
 
2013-05-09 06:18:08 PM  
The nice thing about being in the minority is that now white Americans can apply for better business loans and cheaper college tuition... I would say 'White is the new Black', but that would discount the Chinese that built the railroads.

http://www.usagovernmentgrants.org/grants_for_minorities.html


If you give more of the new minority government grants obtained from increased revenue from corporations that do extreme damage, then more white people can stimulate small business growth.

... Is that what you were looking for Bonnie?
 
2013-05-09 06:18:48 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: You see on one side of the equation you have costs and on the other side you have revenue. If you must have more revenue than costs you have two choices: cut costs or increase revenue.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-09 06:18:52 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: If you want a vote now and figure out what's in it Congress go right ahead. I'm thankful they are slowing that type of shiat down.


They're blocking debate on bills, not a vote on passing them.  They're too chickenshait to even talk about them.  There's a difference between "slowing down and having a healthy debate" over a bill and "anonymously objecting to permitting a vote to begin debate".  But you knew that already.
 
2013-05-09 06:20:03 PM  

Isitoveryet: this is actually quite simple reasoning on behalf of the Republicans, they would not consider their actions obstructionism for the simple fact that they don't see this country as the multi-cultural-racial-religious-mixed bag-o-nuts & everything under the sun that it is.

they see it as their country, not ours.

they aren't obstructing, they are cleansing.


You know who else tried to cleanse their country?
 
2013-05-09 06:20:34 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Soup4Bonnie: wat?

You see on one side of the equation you have costs and on the other side you have revenue. If you must have more revenue than costs you have two choices: cut costs or increase revenue.


Rueened: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Blues_X: Subvert democracy, obviously.

This doesn't even make sense! They were elected too. Should they just roll over and let things they know are a bad idea go though?!

Car_Ramrod: We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!

If you think they haven't put forwards some ideas then you not paying attention. Try reading something other than the Huff Post and Mother Jones.

Making 37 unsuccessful attempts to repeal the President's landmark legislation is not really what I'd call 'putting forwards some ideas'.

They're doing more than that. That's just a few hours of their day.


Oh yeah - don't forget more Benghazi hearings, and all the votes that are DOA in the Senate, like their retarded budget proposal, the debt-prioritization bill, their 40 job creation tax cut bills, and now, just hours ago, yet another committee on Benghazi. They sure are putting forward some stellar ideas. Good on them!
 
2013-05-09 06:21:00 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Blues_X: Subvert democracy, obviously.

This doesn't even make sense! They were elected too. Should they just roll over and let things they know are a bad idea go though?!

Car_Ramrod: We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!

If you think they haven't put forwards some ideas then you not paying attention. Try reading something other than the Huff Post and Mother Jones.


That's true, they've tried whining and crying. When that didn't work they moved on to lying and making up bs about birf certifikits. Now they're taking things by force, as it should be with antidemocratic thugs like the republical party.
 
2013-05-09 06:21:00 PM  

Slappy McLongstockings: Is that what you were looking for Bonnie?


More off topic gibberish?  No, not so much.  But bless your heart, I can tell you're trying really hard to say...something.
 
2013-05-09 06:21:40 PM  
Zeppelininthesky:

You know who else tried to cleanse their country?

Liberals if conservatives keep up with this nonsense.
 
2013-05-09 06:22:31 PM  

Evil High Priest: cameroncrazy1984: The Stealth Hippopotamus: So ok with this. If you want a vote now and figure out what's in it Congress go right ahead. I'm thankful they are slowing that type of shiat down.

They're not "slowing" it down. They're stopping it completely. They're shutting things down that even get GOP votes, like the background check bill. You're seriously telling me that every single bill ought to get 60 votes? That's not how democracy is supposed to work.

Reid seems perfectly happy with that system.


Reid's not happy with it; some in the caucus appear to be.
 
2013-05-09 06:23:55 PM  

MisterEZ: Liberals if conservatives keep up with this nonsense.


Yeah, right. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see some aggression from the left in this country, but too many Dems are outright pussies.

Harry Reid, for example. The filibuster still exists because of that farking pantywaist.
 
2013-05-09 06:25:10 PM  

un4gvn666: cabbyman: Why can't people just do exactly what the President wants all the time?

IT'S NOT FAIR!

"Do what the President wants" or "Stop the President from doing anything of value at all".

This is the mind of the modern conservative. Extremes only, no nuance or middle ground.

And people wonder why young generations think Republicans are worthless.


I've thought Republicans wee worthless for decades. They lost their shiat when that hippie got elected and haven't recovered since.
 
2013-05-09 06:25:48 PM  

un4gvn666: MisterEZ: Liberals if conservatives keep up with this nonsense.

Yeah, right. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see some aggression from the left in this country, but too many Dems are outright pussies.

Harry Reid, for example. The filibuster still exists because of that farking pantywaist.


He's a politician. I'm talking about the people.
 
2013-05-09 06:25:58 PM  

Ed Grubermann: un4gvn666: cabbyman: Why can't people just do exactly what the President wants all the time?

IT'S NOT FAIR!

"Do what the President wants" or "Stop the President from doing anything of value at all".

This is the mind of the modern conservative. Extremes only, no nuance or middle ground.

And people wonder why young generations think Republicans are worthless.

I've thought Republicans wee worthless for decades. They lost their shiat when that hippie got elected and haven't recovered since.


You mean Clinton, right?
 
2013-05-09 06:26:39 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: However the majority party whining about not getting their way it just sad


in the senate a majority is 60+.
the GOP have the majority in the house.

and the thing that is really sad is that the GOP won't even vote for their own policies if the Dems even hint they might approve of it.
the only thing they will vote for is their own bullshiat bills that try to ban abortion or lower rich people's taxes.
 
2013-05-09 06:28:22 PM  

Without Fail: The Republican Party is not better at cutting spending.
The Republican Party is not better at defending the country.
The Republican Party is not better at reducing the size of government.

All of these statement are easily documented facts.

So why do people vote for them?


Because Jesus
 
2013-05-09 06:28:45 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: If you think they haven't put forwards some ideas then you not paying attention. Try reading something other than the Huff Post and Mother Jones.


You're right. Trying to repeal Obamacare for the 37th time is a kind of idea.
 
2013-05-09 06:30:00 PM  

Hobodeluxe: The top two Republicans in Congress informed President Obama on Thursday that they will refuse to fulfill their duty under the Affordable Care Act to recommend members of a new board with the power to contain Medicare spending.


And as such, they should be executed for treason.
 
2013-05-09 06:30:00 PM  

Job Creator: Without Fail: The Republican Party is not better at cutting spending.
The Republican Party is not better at defending the country.
The Republican Party is not better at reducing the size of government.

All of these statement are easily documented facts.

So why do people vote for them?

Because Jesus


Sadly you're right.
 
2013-05-09 06:34:26 PM  
Love it or leave it but don't squat on it and break it.

What we need, or the world needs rather, if for a modern Republican Moses (although that is the wrong name for our purposes) to come and lead all the Republicans to their promise land, somewhere in Alaska i think, maybe somewhere in the middle east, somewhere they can create their utopia with lots of oil, guns, religion, somewhere the scary darkness can't hurt them.
 
2013-05-09 06:34:51 PM  

FlashHarry: shiat. by the way, if you couldn't tell, those are cloture votes.


So is that the brown party and the green party, then?
 
2013-05-09 06:37:27 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Hobodeluxe: The top two Republicans in Congress informed President Obama on Thursday that they will refuse to fulfill their duty under the Affordable Care Act to recommend members of a new board with the power to contain Medicare spending.

And as such, they should be executed for treason.


impeached for dereliction of duty.
 
2013-05-09 06:38:57 PM  

Isitoveryet: Love it or leave it but don't squat on it and break it.

What we need, or the world needs rather, if for a modern Republican Moses (although that is the wrong name for our purposes) to come and lead all the Republicans to their promise land, somewhere in Alaska i think, maybe somewhere in the middle east, somewhere they can create their utopia with lots of oil, guns, religion, somewhere the scary darkness can't hurt them.


Moses? Crazy guy that thinks he can talk to god? I know just the man for the job...

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/01/glenn-beck-theme-park-tea-pa rt y
 
2013-05-09 06:39:21 PM  

un4gvn666: The Stealth Hippopotamus: They think both parties are worthless

No. False. Wrong. Typical of a modern conservative.

Obama routinely gets high approval ratings while Republican approval is in the shiatter.

Young people support Democrats more than Republicans, and for obvious reasons.


The good news is that the R(ape) party has been showing their true colors for years now. Young people think they are pathetic losers. Women think they are pathetic losers who will strip them of their rights. Hispanics think they are pathetic losers who want to deport them. Old people think they are pathetic losers who will try to kill them.. There is no demographic where the R(ape) party can show any gains. So they have no choice but try to completely destroy the economy and blame it on the black guy.

Welcome to regional, marginal, permanent minority status, assholes. You deserve it.
 
2013-05-09 06:40:12 PM  

un4gvn666: Of course. The rest of the time they're trying to outlaw abortion. How silly of us to forget.


When was the last vote to outlaw abortion?!

un4gvn666: You pretending Republicans are contributing anything of value to modern governance is kinda sad.


Quick quiz: How many bills has the House put forward that were defined as "DOA" when they reached the Senate? Obstruction goes both ways.

Soup4Bonnie: You see, raising the debt limit or defaulting on the debt has nothing to do with costs or revenue. Congress already approved the spending. Now they don't want to pay the bill. Spending and entitlement cuts won't do dick all to the debt ceiling.


That doesn't even make sense! Changing spending and entitlements wont effect the debt ceiling? Yes they already approved the spending! Based on projections that turned out to be wrong. Throw on top of that a few billion here or there for "emergency" spending and boom you got the problem we are in.

Soup4Bonnie: 've seen you troll and you do it better than this


I don't troll. I like debating issues and I have views different than yours. This is not trolling. Good night, I think it's time for me to log off as well. No need to be at the office any more.

un4gvn666: While the ultimate goal is to stop a Democratic President from achieving anything substantia


wrong it's to stop him from achieving anything dumb.

un4gvn666: too late, btw, edit. Obamacare ring a bell?)


Yes and now even the authors of that abomination are regretting it and saying they need way more money to make it happen.

un4gvn666: Republicans are using the filibuster to give them cover from having to explain their incredibly stupid, irresponsible, and provably false ideas on every modern policy in this country. A filibuster keeps them from making fools of themselves in public view.


I wish. The filibuster is giving way too much time in front of a microphone and they keep putting their foot in their mouths.
 
2013-05-09 06:47:53 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: How many bills has the House put forward that were defined as "DOA" when they reached the Senate? Obstruction goes both ways.


They (presumably) know how a bill becomes a law - they're not putting forth anything they think will pass. All these DOA bills are symbolic measure designed to appeal to their base, not to actually get anything done. It doesn't count as obstruction if the House GOP never thought the bills had a chance to get through the Senate in the first place.
 
2013-05-09 06:50:20 PM  

MisterEZ: Isitoveryet: Love it or leave it but don't squat on it and break it.

What we need, or the world needs rather, if for a modern Republican Moses (although that is the wrong name for our purposes) to come and lead all the Republicans to their promise land, somewhere in Alaska i think, maybe somewhere in the middle east, somewhere they can create their utopia with lots of oil, guns, religion, somewhere the scary darkness can't hurt them.

Moses? Crazy guy that thinks he can talk to god? I know just the man for the job...

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/01/glenn-beck-theme-park-tea-pa rt y


Independence, USA !!
where all the roads are dirt, the preferred currency is gold,  women know their place, & every structure is privately owned, dilapidated & church affiliated.
 
2013-05-09 07:07:29 PM  

Without Fail: The Republican Party is not better at cutting spending.
The Republican Party is not better at defending the country.
The Republican Party is not better at reducing the size of government.

All of these statement are easily documented facts.

So why do people vote for them?


Because the alternative is less appealing?   I mean, President Gore?  President Kerry?  President McCain?   No thank you.
 
2013-05-09 07:11:30 PM  

DarwiOdrade: Ed Grubermann: un4gvn666: cabbyman: Why can't people just do exactly what the President wants all the time?

IT'S NOT FAIR!

"Do what the President wants" or "Stop the President from doing anything of value at all".

This is the mind of the modern conservative. Extremes only, no nuance or middle ground.

And people wonder why young generations think Republicans are worthless.

I've thought Republicans wee worthless for decades. They lost their shiat when that hippie got elected and haven't recovered since.

You mean Clinton, right?


Yes.
 
2013-05-09 07:12:48 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: When was the last vote to outlaw abortion?!


no votes but several in committee. 28 bills since the first of the year trying to curb or limit them.
and then you have to also look at the states. they have been the ones who have been passing all kinds of laws pretty much outlawing abortions or making it impossible for clinics to operate.
 
2013-05-09 07:14:00 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Without Fail: The Republican Party is not better at cutting spending.
The Republican Party is not better at defending the country.
The Republican Party is not better at reducing the size of government.

All of these statement are easily documented facts.

So why do people vote for them?

Because the alternative is less appealing?   I mean, President Gore?  President Kerry?  President McCain?   No thank you.


Yes, because GWBush worked out so well.  Funny I did not see him at the GOP convention or hear his name mentioned.
 
2013-05-09 07:14:35 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Without Fail: The Republican Party is not better at cutting spending.
The Republican Party is not better at defending the country.
The Republican Party is not better at reducing the size of government.

All of these statement are easily documented facts.

So why do people vote for them?

Because the alternative is less appealing?   I mean, President Gore?  President Kerry?  President McCain?   No thank you.


Cute.
 
2013-05-09 07:15:25 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Without Fail: The Republican Party is not better at cutting spending.
The Republican Party is not better at defending the country.
The Republican Party is not better at reducing the size of government.

All of these statement are easily documented facts.

So why do people vote for them?

Because the alternative is less appealing?   I mean, President Gore?  President Kerry?  President McCain?   No thank you.


President Gore would not have invaded Iraq. Probably wouldn't have ignored the Clinton administration's warnings about OBL. He may have had the personality of a tree stump, but he wasn't a complete idiot like Bush the Lesser.
 
2013-05-09 07:15:55 PM  

GodsTumor: Zeb Hesselgresser: Without Fail: The Republican Party is not better at cutting spending.
The Republican Party is not better at defending the country.
The Republican Party is not better at reducing the size of government.

All of these statement are easily documented facts.

So why do people vote for them?

Because the alternative is less appealing?   I mean, President Gore?  President Kerry?  President McCain?   No thank you.

Yes, because GWBush worked out so well.  Funny I did not see him at the GOP convention or hear his name mentioned.


he's busy painting his feet in the tub and rewriting his legacy.
 
2013-05-09 07:20:15 PM  

remus: FlashHarry: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!

be the loyal opposition and put country ahead of party?

NAH.

Want to take odds what course the Dems take next time the pendulum swings and they are the minority?  (hint:  last time they obstructed too).  It's the game.  Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.


No, they didn't. They rolled over and licked GWB's feet, and even swallowed.
 
2013-05-09 07:22:41 PM  
Yeah, he has be better at that then he was at the POTUS gig.
Paint a happy, happy place...
 
2013-05-09 07:40:03 PM  
Obama is a whiner.
 
2013-05-09 07:42:39 PM  

LargeCanine: Obama is a whiner.


www.funnyordie.comblog.lefigaro.frpab58.files.wordpress.com

you spelled Boehner wrong
 
2013-05-09 07:44:42 PM  
They love their country so much that they're willing to destroy it in order to save it.
God bless these men, these heroes of our time.
 
2013-05-09 07:44:55 PM  

Hobodeluxe: LargeCanine: Obama is a whiner.

[www.funnyordie.com image 274x206][blog.lefigaro.fr image 300x219][pab58.files.wordpress.com image 330x198]

you spelled Boehner wrong


Obama is a Boehner?
 
jvl
2013-05-09 07:59:30 PM  
Remember when Senator Obama voted against a Supreme Court nominee because the nominee held different political opinions than Obama did? And how historically that's not how the Senate confirmation process works?

High horse. Get off.
 
2013-05-09 08:05:37 PM  
Most of this "obstruction" was developed by Reid under Bush.  Obama has also historically been slow to nominate, which is why it looks like there is more obstruction.  He can't even be bothered to nominate candidates.
 
2013-05-09 08:06:24 PM  

jvl: Remember when Senator Obama voted against a Supreme Court nominee because the nominee held different political opinions than Obama did?


No, I remember Sen. Obama voting against Alito and Roberts because in cases where the Constitution was not explicit, both had records of voting in favor of the strong vs. the weak. That's ethics, not politics.
 
2013-05-09 08:06:31 PM  

jvl: Remember when Senator Obama voted against a Supreme Court nominee because the nominee held different political opinions than Obama did? And how historically that's not how the Senate confirmation process works?


You mean for Alito?

He's on the Supreme Court.

That's some obstruction you got there.
 
2013-05-09 08:15:41 PM  

Hobodeluxe: [talkingpointsmemo.com image 652x360]
The top two Republicans in Congress informed President Obama on Thursday that they will ref is use to fulfill their duty under the Affordable Care Act to recommend members of a new board with the power to contain Medicare spending.


Wow. That is a Microsoft level of shiat. Fark the GOP.
 
2013-05-09 08:17:34 PM  

remus: FlashHarry: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!

be the loyal opposition and put country ahead of party?

NAH.

Want to take odds what course the Dems take next time the pendulum swings and they are the minority?  (hint:  last time they obstructed too).  It's the game.  Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.


The thing is that it is, in fact, OK when Dems do it. Unlike the GOP, the Dems have Americas best interests at heart whereas the GOP just look out for their wealthy employers.
 
2013-05-09 08:18:52 PM  
Stealth hippo claims he doesn't troll...

Guess he is just a moran then.
 
2013-05-09 08:20:48 PM  

MyRandomName: Most of this "obstruction" was developed by Reid under Bush.  Obama has also historically been slow to nominate, which is why it looks like there is more obstruction.  He can't even be bothered to nominate candidates.


Just a question. Do you mind if I farky you as a Sarah Palin-level retarded person?
 
2013-05-09 08:28:55 PM  
So, courtesy of the human potato sacks ITT, the reasons are:

- BSABSVR
- We hate the US and want it to fail and WE'RE WINNING YEAH!
- The libs did it libs libs libs

Also, as a bonus, asserting that Bush was the superior choice.

Farking winners, here. Fine, worthwhile human beings.
 
2013-05-09 08:30:08 PM  
The GOP really needs to do everything that 0bama wants.
That is why they were voted into office.
That was the whole point of the historic shellacking in the 2010 midterms, the 2012 House races and the wins in the state governorship.
 
2013-05-09 08:31:23 PM  
Yeah well I know it's fun for some of you Farkers to say DURR BOTH PARTIES ARE THE SAME HURRRR but the Republicans have really been farking up this country by opposing good progressive ideas simply to spite the the ruling party. It's really pathetic that people continue to keep voting for social conservatives, when we no longer have the luxury to be this gridlocked country anymore.
 
2013-05-09 08:32:38 PM  

vernonFL: Its only the EPA. No big deal. The EPA sucks anyway. Just a lot of government red tape and regulations.


That has been a total failure.
Or are you arguing that they did a great job in this case?


Right?
 
2013-05-09 08:33:43 PM  

Without Fail: The Republican Party is not better at cutting spending.
The Republican Party is not better at defending the country.
The Republican Party is not better at reducing the size of government.

All of these statement are easily documented facts.

So why do people vote for them?


Okay, if it is so easily to document those "facts", please do.
Citations?
Show your work.
Thank you
 
2013-05-09 08:37:03 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: Bush was the superior choice.


The historical revisionism surrounding Bush and his successful rise from the shiatpile is beyond Rovian. Somebody got a steak and a BJ for coming up with that one. 10/10
 
2013-05-09 08:38:23 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Okay, if it is so easily to document those "facts", please do.
Citations?
Show your work.
Thank you


2.bp.blogspot.com

images1.dailykos.com

www.washingtonpost.com
 
2013-05-09 08:47:02 PM  

impaler: tenpoundsofcheese: Okay, if it is so easily to document those "facts", please do.
Citations?
Show your work.
Thank you

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 160x106]

[images1.dailykos.com image 377x252]

[www.washingtonpost.com image 454x504]


so you think the President is the dictator and creates all those policies?
Where do the spending bills originate?  For example the 2008 stimulus and other changes of $773B?
Which party was controlling spending since 2011?  You want to give 0bama credit for that?  LOL.
 
2013-05-09 08:48:54 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: so you think the President is the dictator and creates all those policies?


No, but he can veto them, and he has to approve them all.

Shift, deflect, etc.
 
2013-05-09 09:01:08 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: impaler: tenpoundsofcheese: Okay, if it is so easily to document those "facts", please do.
Citations?
Show your work.
Thank you

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 160x106]

[images1.dailykos.com image 377x252]

[www.washingtonpost.com image 454x504]

so you think the President is the dictator and creates all those policies?
Where do the spending bills originate?  For example the 2008 stimulus and other changes of $773B?
Which party was controlling spending since 2011?  You want to give 0bama credit for that?  LOL.


Wait.. so You're actually admitting that Obama is NOT singlehandly responsible for every dime spent and every policy put in place? Or only when the outcome is positive? I just want to be clear on this..
 
2013-05-09 09:04:40 PM  
Obstructionism for this administration means 'Not doing everything I want'.
 
2013-05-09 09:07:27 PM  

randomjsa: Obstructionism for this administration means 'Not doing everything I want'.


Who do you think you are fooling?  They have more blocked votes than any party in HISTORY by almost DOUBLE...
 
2013-05-09 09:07:45 PM  

Stroop: Wait.. so You're actually admitting that Obama is NOT singlehandly responsible for every dime spent and every policy put in place? Or only when the outcome is positive? I just want to be clear on this..


He's very clear. He wants it both ways, incompetent empty suit or dictator, depending on the situation.
 
2013-05-09 09:09:41 PM  

shadow9d9: randomjsa: Obstructionism for this administration means 'Not doing everything I want'.

Who do you think you are fooling?  They have more blocked votes than any party in HISTORY by almost DOUBLE...


It's farking unreal. It's like they get off on looking like foolish douchebags. And they get worse every year.
 
2013-05-09 09:09:41 PM  
It's not even accurate to say that the GOP is a relic of a bygone era. There never existed a time when the current GOP's policies would work or make any sense whatsoever. They're a cancerous cyst that grew out of actual conservative policies of past decades. Its policies and practices create a toxic political environment that affects not just the United States but the whole world.
 
2013-05-09 09:11:51 PM  
What the f*ck do you mean WE think the President is a dictator!!??

It's the Dems who've been turning him into the minion of Satan all these years??

Really, you're gonna go with that??

It's actually the Democrats who all this time have constantly loudly hysterically screamed and wailed and pointed and thumped and pissed millions of gallons of stink all over the floor about Obama being a usurper, dijon mustard, aruuuuugula, BENGHAZI and teleprompters too!!??

Holy rabid syphilitic sh*tballs.
 
2013-05-09 09:18:13 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!


They are supposed to play the role of the loyal opposition.
 
2013-05-09 09:26:51 PM  
Well, they're dealing with historic levels of Democratic incompetence.
 
2013-05-09 09:30:36 PM  

Agneska: Well, they're dealing with historic levels of Democratic incompetence.


You got your talking points mixed up.  This week the Democrats are shoving their progressive agenda down America's throat.  It's next week that they're incompetent buffoons who can't do anything right.
 
2013-05-09 09:32:53 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: impaler: tenpoundsofcheese: Okay, if it is so easily to document those "facts", please do.
Citations?
Show your work.
Thank you

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 160x106]

[images1.dailykos.com image 377x252]

[www.washingtonpost.com image 454x504]

so you think the President is the dictator and creates all those policies?
Where do the spending bills originate?  For example the 2008 stimulus and other changes of $773B?
Which party was controlling spending since 2011?  You want to give 0bama credit for that?  LOL.


Just admit you have no idea how bills work and get on with your life.
 
2013-05-09 09:34:02 PM  

randomjsa: Obstructionism for this administration means 'Not doing everything I want'.


Obstructionism for the GOP is "I hate the black guy and I will tank the entire economy to make him look bad"
 
2013-05-09 09:34:50 PM  
I think the Republican party is bent on destroying themselves so they can resurrect the Whigs.
 
2013-05-09 09:39:09 PM  

Stroop: tenpoundsofcheese: impaler: tenpoundsofcheese: Okay, if it is so easily to document those "facts", please do.
Citations?
Show your work.
Thank you

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 160x106]

[images1.dailykos.com image 377x252]

[www.washingtonpost.com image 454x504]

so you think the President is the dictator and creates all those policies?
Where do the spending bills originate?  For example the 2008 stimulus and other changes of $773B?
Which party was controlling spending since 2011?  You want to give 0bama credit for that?  LOL.

Wait.. so You're actually admitting that Obama is NOT singlehandly responsible for every dime spent and every policy put in place? Or only when the outcome is positive? I just want to be clear on this..


I never said otherwise.
 
2013-05-09 09:43:23 PM  

Zeppelininthesky: randomjsa: Obstructionism for this administration means 'Not doing everything I want'.

Obstructionism for the GOP is "I hate the black guy and I will tank the entire economy to make him look bad"


And since the GOP got control of the House and has getting spending under control, how has that tanking of the economy been working out?
How has the Dow been?
How has employment been?

Oh yeah, after that historic shellacking in 2010 and the President had to deal with the GOP, everything totally tanked.
 
2013-05-09 09:44:58 PM  

FlashHarry: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!

be the loyal opposition and put country ahead of party?

NAH.


Republicans think THIS America isn't the kind of America that they want. In fact, they hate this current form of America with a seething hate and would love to destroy it and replace it with their deranged totalitarian nightmare regime version of it as quickly as possible.

To borrow the line from Game of Thrones, the gop would burn down this country just so that they could be kings of the ashes.
 
2013-05-09 09:49:12 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Zeppelininthesky: randomjsa: Obstructionism for this administration means 'Not doing everything I want'.

Obstructionism for the GOP is "I hate the black guy and I will tank the entire economy to make him look bad"

And since the GOP got control of the House and has getting spending under control, how has that tanking of the economy been working out?
How has the Dow been?
How has employment been?

Oh yeah, after that historic shellacking in 2010 and the President had to deal with the GOP, everything totally tanked.


The GOP held the debt ceiling hostage. The US credit rating was lowered and the GOP were singled out as the cause. Every bill having to do with jobs, education, infrastructure, and other issues that would help the economy were either filibustered, or not passed because they would make Obama look good. The filibustered the OWN farkING BILL.
 
2013-05-09 09:57:49 PM  

remus: FlashHarry: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!

be the loyal opposition and put country ahead of party?

NAH.

Want to take odds what course the Dems take next time the pendulum swings and they are the minority?  (hint:  last time they obstructed too).  It's the game.  Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.


images.huffingtonpost.com

BOTH SIDES ARE BAD!
 
2013-05-09 10:10:11 PM  

remus: FlashHarry: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!

be the loyal opposition and put country ahead of party?

NAH.

Want to take odds what course the Dems take next time the pendulum swings and they are the minority?  (hint:  last time they obstructed too).  It's the game.  Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.


The Senate actions on cloture motions while the Democrats were in the minority between 1995 and 2006 were from 62 to 82 per two-year period for an average of 70.5.  The Senate actions since then, with the GOP in the minority, was 139, 137, and 115 per two-year period, for an average of 130 1/3.

So yeah, Democrats do filibuster.  But they haven't sworn to filibuster everything the way people like Ted Cruz and Rand Paul have.

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/cloture_motions/clotureCo un ts.htm
 
2013-05-09 10:10:34 PM  

impaler: It's like they get off on looking like foolish douchebags.


Hey now, just because tenpoundsofcheese has a quirky fetish doesn't mean it's OK to make fun of him like that.
 
2013-05-09 10:13:34 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Zeppelininthesky: randomjsa: Obstructionism for this administration means 'Not doing everything I want'.

Obstructionism for the GOP is "I hate the black guy and I will tank the entire economy to make him look bad"

And since the GOP got control of the House and has getting spending under control, how has that tanking of the economy been working out?
How has the Dow been?
How has employment been?

Oh yeah, after that historic shellacking in 2010 and the President had to deal with the GOP, everything totally tanked.


Lulz. So if the Economy tanked, it was the Presidents fault. But now that the stock market is doing so well, the brave GOP was behind it all. Even though most of the Job growth was based on government spending. GOP Austerity and union busting had NOTHING to do with the economy. (See: Spain, Greece, etc.)

This is a wonderful backpedaling from what the GOP was saying last year on the Campaign trail. Of course, doubletalk is how the GOP operates these days on virtual any issue.
 
2013-05-09 10:15:06 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: The GOP really needs to do everything that 0bama wants.
That is why they were voted into office.
That was the whole point of the historic shellacking in the 2010 midterms, the 2012 House races and the wins in the state governorship.


Soooooo no debate, then.

Got it.
 
2013-05-09 10:19:55 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!


Work in the best interests of the people who elected them.

HOW DID YOU NOT KNOW THIS?

/The Republican Party isn't doing that.
 
2013-05-09 10:20:11 PM  
♫ I'm just a bill, obstructed on Capitol Hill.  ♫
 
2013-05-09 10:35:53 PM  

Zeppelininthesky: tenpoundsofcheese: Zeppelininthesky: randomjsa: Obstructionism for this administration means 'Not doing everything I want'.

Obstructionism for the GOP is "I hate the black guy and I will tank the entire economy to make him look bad"

And since the GOP got control of the House and has getting spending under control, how has that tanking of the economy been working out?
How has the Dow been?
How has employment been?

Oh yeah, after that historic shellacking in 2010 and the President had to deal with the GOP, everything totally tanked.

The GOP held the debt ceiling hostage. The US credit rating was lowered and the GOP were singled out as the one of thecauses.


Okay, so what was the impact of the US Credit Rating being lowered?

 Every bill having to do with jobs, education, infrastructure, and other issues that would help the economy were either filibustered, or not passed because they would make Obama look good.

Oh please, you mean like bills that gave us the Summer of Recovery (FAILED), the cash for clunkers (FAILED), the shovel ready jobs (FAILED), the Green Energy Investments (FAILED, FAILED and FAILED again).  There has been NOTHING stopped that would have helped the economy.  The credit rating downgrade had to do with the out of control spending which the GOP got under control by stopping these failed programs from losing even more money.

The filibustered the OWN farkING BILL.
I have no idea what you are saying.
 
2013-05-09 10:39:23 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Okay, so what was the impact of the US Credit Rating being lowered?


Tremendous. The Dow is doing well, but perhaps if all sections of the economy grew faster and the GOP were not obstructionists holding on to the dying embers of Austerity, No Taxes on the Wealthy and Reaganomics, we'd actually could afford the infrastructure this country needs to continue across the board wealth for all Americans for decades to come. (See what infrastructure PLUS a great economy did for the US in the 50's and 60's.)
 
2013-05-09 10:40:27 PM  

The Lone Gunman: remus: FlashHarry: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!

be the loyal opposition and put country ahead of party?

NAH.

Want to take odds what course the Dems take next time the pendulum swings and they are the minority?  (hint:  last time they obstructed too).  It's the game.  Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.

The Senate actions on cloture motions while the Democrats were in the minority between 1995 and 2006 were from 62 to 82 per two-year period for an average of 70.5.  The Senate actions since then, with the GOP in the minority, was 139, 137, and 115 per two-year period, for an average of 130 1/3.

So yeah, Democrats do filibuster.  But they haven't sworn to filibuster everything the way people like Ted Cruz and Rand Paul have.


Funny that you would compare a group (the Democrats) to just two outspoken members (Cruz and Paul) and you have to lie about their position.
(or do you have a citation where they swore to filibuster everything?)

Did you ever think that there were several Democrats who were as vocal of filibusters back when they were in the minority?  (careful.  this is a trick question designed to trap you).
 
2013-05-09 10:45:03 PM  

Job Creator: So why do people vote for them?

Because Jesus


Wrong, plenty of Christians vote Democratic.
/I have for years.
 
2013-05-09 10:47:19 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Did you ever think that there were several Democrats who were as vocal of filibusters back when they were in the minority? (careful. this is a trick question designed to trap you).


So when the other guy does it, doing it three times as bad is better for the republic how?
 
2013-05-09 10:53:44 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Zeppelininthesky: tenpoundsofcheese: Zeppelininthesky: randomjsa: Obstructionism for this administration means 'Not doing everything I want'.

Obstructionism for the GOP is "I hate the black guy and I will tank the entire economy to make him look bad"

And since the GOP got control of the House and has getting spending under control, how has that tanking of the economy been working out?
How has the Dow been?
How has employment been?

Oh yeah, after that historic shellacking in 2010 and the President had to deal with the GOP, everything totally tanked.

The GOP held the debt ceiling hostage. The US credit rating was lowered and the GOP were singled out as the one of thecauses.

Okay, so what was the impact of the US Credit Rating being lowered?

 Every bill having to do with jobs, education, infrastructure, and other issues that would help the economy were either filibustered, or not passed because they would make Obama look good.

Oh please, you mean like bills that gave us the Summer of Recovery (FAILED), the cash for clunkers (FAILED), the shovel ready jobs (FAILED), the Green Energy Investments (FAILED, FAILED and FAILED again).  There has been NOTHING stopped that would have helped the economy.  The credit rating downgrade had to do with the out of control spending which the GOP got under control by stopping these failed programs from losing even more money.

The filibustered the OWN farkING BILL.
I have no idea what you are saying.

You have no idea what you are saying.


http://www.standardandpoors.com/ratings/articles/en/us/?assetID=12453 1 6529563">http://www.standardandpoors.com/ratings/articles/en/us/?asse tID=124531 6529563

They directly blame the GOP for downgrading the credit rating. This is because the GOP held it hostage to get tax cuts.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/06/democrats-watch-in-awe-as-mcco nn ell-filibusters-himself/

Mconnell filibusters himself because the Senate may actually work with him on what he proposed.
 
2013-05-09 10:54:59 PM  

themindiswatching: More like we're stopping you irresponsible farks from spending this country into ruin.


weknowmemes.com
 
2013-05-09 10:58:02 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: The Lone Gunman: remus: FlashHarry: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!

be the loyal opposition and put country ahead of party?

NAH.

Want to take odds what course the Dems take next time the pendulum swings and they are the minority?  (hint:  last time they obstructed too).  It's the game.  Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.

The Senate actions on cloture motions while the Democrats were in the minority between 1995 and 2006 were from 62 to 82 per two-year period for an average of 70.5.  The Senate actions since then, with the GOP in the minority, was 139, 137, and 115 per two-year period, for an average of 130 1/3.

So yeah, Democrats do filibuster.  But they haven't sworn to filibuster everything the way people like Ted Cruz and Rand Paul have.

Funny that you would compare a group (the Democrats) to just two outspoken members (Cruz and Paul) and you have to lie about their position.
(or do you have a citation where they swore to filibuster everything?)

Did you ever think that there were several Democrats who were as vocal of filibusters back when they were in the minority?  (careful.  this is a trick question designed to trap you).


A record of every filibuster by year:

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/cloture_motions/113.htm

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/cloture_motions/112.htm

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/cloture_motions/111.htm

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/cloture_motions/110.htm

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/cloture_motions/109.htm
 
2013-05-09 11:00:37 PM  
Also: "We lowered our long-term rating on the U.S. because we believe that the prolonged controversy over raising the statutory debt ceiling and the related fiscal policy debate indicate that further near-term progress containing the growth in public spending, especially on entitlements, or on reaching an agreement on raising revenues is less likely than we previously assumed and will remain a contentious and fitful process. We also believe that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration agreed to this week falls short of the amount that we believe is necessary to stabilize the general government debt burden by the middle of the decade."
 
2013-05-09 11:01:43 PM  

remus: FlashHarry: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!

be the loyal opposition and put country ahead of party?

NAH.

Want to take odds what course the Dems take next time the pendulum swings and they are the minority?  (hint:  last time they obstructed too).  It's the game.  Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.


Uh, not like to "Fatal Attraction" levels.  Sorry, but what Dems did wasn't even in the same time zone as what the GOP's done.
 
2013-05-09 11:02:28 PM  

randomjsa: Obstructionism for this administration means 'Not doing everything I want'.


Hey look, projection from you.  Also: Water wet, sky blue.
 
2013-05-09 11:06:16 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: This doesn't even make sense! They were elected too. Should they just roll over and let things they know are a bad idea go though?!


But it's NOT just bad ideas. It's good ideas too. It's EVERYTHING. They couldn't even get a medical bill passed for the first responders on 9/11!! That's like the most patriotic bill ever and should have been rubber-stamped with 100% approval. They shot down the firefighters and police officers suffering from asthma and cancer from helping people on 9/11. How do you justify obstructing something like that? I can't think of anything more unAmerican.

That's right: The GOP hates America. They've always hated America, they only care about themselves and they'll filibuster like a 3-year old throwing a tantrum on the floor until they get their way.
 
2013-05-09 11:08:47 PM  

Hobodeluxe: [talkingpointsmemo.com image 652x360]
The top two Republicans in Congress informed President Obama on Thursday that they will refuse to fulfill their duty under the Affordable Care Act to recommend members of a new board with the power to contain Medicare spending.


Sounds like grounds for impeachment.
 
2013-05-09 11:33:24 PM  

Ishkur: That's right: The GOP hates America. They've always hated America, they only care about themselves and they'll filibuster like a 3-year old throwing a tantrum on the floor until they get their way.

 
2013-05-09 11:40:06 PM  
They're the Congressional equivalent of those "sovereign citizen" assholes - they have a terminal case of "you're not the boss of me" syndrome, and so will continue to obstruct what the rest of the country not only wants, but has voted into law.

They're the most un-American assholes I've seen lately, and that's saying something given the Boston Marathon bombings.
 
2013-05-09 11:41:27 PM  
Marcus Aurelius:
I still believe that the Democrats to some degree have an interest in governing.  The GOP, on the other hand, farks everything up on purpose and then says "See? government doesn't work!".  That's the fundamental difference.

'Party of Bad Ideas' vs 'Party of No Ideas'

Pick your poison.
 
2013-05-09 11:43:37 PM  
Y'all really think cheese is gonna click on any of your dirty Marxist liberal links?
 
2013-05-09 11:51:38 PM  
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) sad Republicans still had questions they wanted McCarthy to answer.

Well Libs, I was in the meeting and here's a transcript

McConnell: ARE YOU A LIB
McCarthy: Define Lib
McConnell: YOU'RE A LIB
McCarthy: Sure
McConnell: LIB
McCarthy: Ok
McConnell: WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT BENGHAZI
McCarthy: Probably as much as you do Senator
McConnell: YOU'RE A LIB AND YOU'RE HIDING SOMETHING BENGHAZI IS A SCANDAL
McCarthy: What does this have to do with the EPA
McConnell: LIB
McCarthy: Do you know what the EPA is
McConnell: I'LL ASK THE QUESTIONS LIB ARE YOU AWARE YOUR NAME IS MCCARTHY
McCarthy: And?
McConnell: JOSEPH MCCARTHY HE WAS A COMMUNIST SAME THING AS OBAMA HE'S A SOCIALIST
McCarthy: Are we done
McConnell: LIB

as you can see, completely unqualified. Nice try libs.
 
2013-05-10 12:09:28 AM  

whidbey: A Dark Evil Omen: Bush was the superior choice.

The historical revisionism surrounding Bush and his successful rise from the shiatpile is beyond Rovian. Somebody got a steak and a BJ for coming up with that one. 10/10


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-05-10 12:10:39 AM  
As stated, the #1 priority for individual politicians in America, is not making decisions that benefit the country. The #1 priority is ensuring re-election. Making the decisions that benefit the country is therefore at best #2, and must be sacrificed when it conflicts with #1.
 
2013-05-10 12:23:22 AM  
Cabinet appointments are worse than waiting on lotto scratchers at the filling station.
 
2013-05-10 12:24:34 AM  

LemSkroob: Marcus Aurelius:
I still believe that the Democrats to some degree have an interest in governing.  The GOP, on the other hand, farks everything up on purpose and then says "See? government doesn't work!".  That's the fundamental difference.

'Party of Bad Ideas' vs 'Party of No Ideas'

Pick your poison.


DERP!

The GOP is strictly the party of bad ideas, who don't even bother to implement them, Period.

Seriously.

At one point during the vote, a majority of Republicans were on record in favor of the RSC budget. Democrats then began casting votes as "present," rather than "no," as they would be expected to do. Without the Democratic "no" votes, the amendment would be adopted and would supersede Budget ranking member Paul Ryan's (R-Wis.) ballyhooed budget.

After time for the vote expired, Republicans held it open so that enough of them could switch their votes to prevent the RSC budget from passing.

Link

These GOP scum don't even believe in their own ideas.


For all of you that like to pretend you're a "both sides are bad, and I'm an honest non-partisan observer" type, find a corresponding example. Can't??? Duh!

Democrats are a disorganized party of good and bad ideas. That's where we're at. Republicans are an authoritarian cult with nothing but a desire to hold power and bad ideas, and the Democrats are people that are NOT Republicans - hippies, scientists, non-religious/non-evangilical christians, women, minorities, teachers, historians, non-austrian school economists...

Both sides are bad!
 
2013-05-10 12:37:49 AM  

Hobodeluxe: [m.static.newsvine.com image 563x412]


Republicans who call themselves fiscally conservatives are typically liars.
 
2013-05-10 12:38:43 AM  

PsiChick: Hobodeluxe: [m.static.newsvine.com image 563x412]

Republicans who call themselves fiscally conservatives are typically liars.


FTFY
 
2013-05-10 12:38:56 AM  
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) sad Republicans still had questions they wanted McCarthy to answer.

WHAT DID YOU KNOW ABOUT BENGHAZI AND WHEN DID YOU KNOW IT, MCCARTHY?
 
2013-05-10 12:43:33 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-10 12:49:47 AM  

fusillade762: whidbey: A Dark Evil Omen: Bush was the superior choice.

The historical revisionism surrounding Bush and his successful rise from the shiatpile is beyond Rovian. Somebody got a steak and a BJ for coming up with that one. 10/10

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x199]


Caption: Manly yes, but I like it too....
 
2013-05-10 12:52:46 AM  
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Holy farking god damn shiat.
 
2013-05-10 12:55:30 AM  

GhostFish: You know what? fark this site.

My god, can't a farking discussion take place without people trying to educate the same trolls on the same subjects again and again? They don't have farking amnesia, people. They just post the same shiat again and again because they know it will get attention.

They need attention like your mom needs dick.

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Please farking ban me for all time so that I am never again tempted to try to converse with another human being here.

I admit my mistake. I admit the mistake we all made. The internet will never be a place for real discussion. You win the argument. Congratulations on your victory. I hope it gives you the psychosexual satisfaction that you're dying for.

Holy farking god damn shiat.


Dude, we aren't arguing for the sake of the trolls. We're arguing for the idjits who  aren't trolls, who  are out there, and who  do need evidence to be convinced. They're there. They're lurkers, or even a few of the 'trolls'--I've seen them change myself.

Stick around a bit. There are real discussions here, and there's a lot of good that goes on. And if all else fails, hey, chatting about late-night drunken snacks in the TFD tab is always fun. :)
 
2013-05-10 12:58:25 AM  

GhostFish: You know what? fark this site.

My god, can't a farking discussion take place without people trying to educate the same trolls on the same subjects again and again? They don't have farking amnesia, people. They just post the same shiat again and again because they know it will get attention.

They need attention like your mom needs dick.

I'd put them on ignore, but that's just a farking bandaid. Just like banning them.

So fark it. I don't give a shiat anymore. fark this site, fark the dickless mods, and fark all you jackasses for continually engaging in this battle of retard wits.

Please farking ban me for all time so that I am never again tempted to try to converse with another human being here.

I admit my mistake. I admit the mistake we all made. The internet will never be a place for real discussion. You win the argument. Congratulations on your victory. I hope it gives you the psychosexual satisfaction that you're dying for.

Holy farking god damn shiat.


done in 209
 
2013-05-10 01:01:42 AM  

GhostFish: You know what? fark this site.

My god, can't a farking discussion take place without people trying to educate the same trolls on the same subjects again and again? They don't have farking amnesia, people. They just post the same shiat again and again because they know it will get attention.

They need attention like your mom needs dick.

I'd put them on ignore, but that's just a farking bandaid. Just like banning them.

So fark it. I don't give a shiat anymore. fark this site, fark the dickless mods, and fark all you jackasses for continually engaging in this battle of retard wits.

Please farking ban me for all time so that I am never again tempted to try to converse with another human being here.

I admit my mistake. I admit the mistake we all made. The internet will never be a place for real discussion. You win the argument. Congratulations on your victory. I hope it gives you the psychosexual satisfaction that you're dying for.

Holy farking god damn shiat.


I hate to say welcome to fark, but welcome to fark.

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2013-05-10 01:02:18 AM  

GhostFish: Please farking ban me for all time so


you should smoke a fatty. And Google Poe's Law. Fark has been a very education experience for me when it comes to dealing with Real World Trolls who espouse the kind of shiat that's making you bust a nut. Just my couple of mostly petroleum-based cents.
 
2013-05-10 01:12:42 AM  

TalenLee: As stated, the #1 priority for individual politicians in America, is not making decisions that benefit the country. The #1 priority is ensuring re-election. Making the decisions that benefit the country is therefore at best #2, and must be sacrificed when it conflicts with #1.


I hate to say this, but isn't that the entire point of representative democracy? We can be trusted to do the right thing after all other avenues have been exhausted, etc.
 
2013-05-10 01:16:34 AM  

whidbey: GhostFish: Please farking ban me for all time so

you should smoke a fatty. And Google Poe's Law. Fark has been a very education experience for me when it comes to dealing with Real World Trolls who espouse the kind of shiat that's making you bust a nut. Just my couple of mostly petroleum-based cents.


It's not the trolls, it's the repetition. Every farking thread in the politics tab turns into a repeat of the same episode of Tom and Jerry again and again and again.

I want off. I just want a little entertainment and discussion, and instead we get the same farking circus with the cat and mouse again and again.

And people act like it's their god damn civic duty to play the part of Tom, or that they're getting some real farking insight into how to catch a mouse in real life when they practice here with a cleaver and a ridiculously oversized wheel of cheese.

What narcissism. What utter and absurd self indulgence.
 
2013-05-10 01:19:57 AM  

whidbey: fusillade762: whidbey: A Dark Evil Omen: Bush was the superior choice.

The historical revisionism surrounding Bush and his successful rise from the shiatpile is beyond Rovian. Somebody got a steak and a BJ for coming up with that one. 10/10

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x199]

Caption: Manly yes, but I like it too....


I was thinking more along the lines of Republicans as Joachim. Even as the ship is falling apart around them and they're dying they still praise their leader's superior intellect.
 
2013-05-10 01:19:59 AM  
Not confirming a qualified nominee is nothing but obstructionism. They don't want anybody running the EPA. They are pro-pollution and toxic waste.
 
2013-05-10 01:21:27 AM  

GhostFish: . I want off. I just want a little entertainment and discussion, and instead we get the same farking circus with the cat and mouse again and again.


Wow. Like rats in a maze, trying to find the mini-keg of Heineken at the center.

Yeah, it's not for everyone. I would try Reddit or that other cool political forum filled with stuffy mature people I an't think of. In fact, there are several.
 
2013-05-10 01:26:35 AM  
And now you see how the opposition reacts to a prez whose attitude toward bipartisanship is, "I won". Well so did they, so screw you too.

By the way, two of those five years the dems had a filibuster-proof majority, so revise your whining points.
 
2013-05-10 01:36:39 AM  

jjorsett: By the way, two of those five years the dems had a filibuster-proof majority, so revise your whining points.


Well that's just a complete lie.
 
2013-05-10 01:39:26 AM  

GhostFish: You know what? fark this site.

My god, can't a farking discussion take place without people trying to educate the same trolls on the same subjects again and again? They don't have farking amnesia, people. They just post the same shiat again and again because they know it will get attention.

They need attention like your mom needs dick.

I'd put them on ignore, but that's just a farking bandaid. Just like banning them.

So fark it. I don't give a shiat anymore. fark this site, fark the dickless mods, and fark all you jackasses for continually engaging in this battle of retard wits.

Please farking ban me for all time so that I am never again tempted to try to converse with another human being here.

I admit my mistake. I admit the mistake we all made. The internet will never be a place for real discussion. You win the argument. Congratulations on your victory. I hope it gives you the psychosexual satisfaction that you're dying for.

Holy farking god damn shiat.


Word
 
2013-05-10 01:45:35 AM  

jjorsett: And now you see how the opposition reacts to a prez whose attitude toward bipartisanship is, "I won". Well so did they, so screw you too.

By the way, two of those five years the dems had a filibuster-proof majority, so revise your whining points.


They had a filibuster proof majority for all of 2 months.

When did you drop out of school, second grade?
 
2013-05-10 01:48:00 AM  

jjorsett: And now you see how the opposition reacts to a prez whose attitude toward bipartisanship is, "I won". Well so did they, so screw you too.

By the way, two of those five years the dems had a filibuster-proof majority, so revise your whining points.


Lying liar.
 
2013-05-10 01:49:04 AM  

GhostFish: whidbey: GhostFish: Please farking ban me for all time so

you should smoke a fatty. And Google Poe's Law. Fark has been a very education experience for me when it comes to dealing with Real World Trolls who espouse the kind of shiat that's making you bust a nut. Just my couple of mostly petroleum-based cents.

It's not the trolls, it's the repetition. Every farking thread in the politics tab turns into a repeat of the same episode of Tom and Jerry again and again and again.

I want off. I just want a little entertainment and discussion, and instead we get the same farking circus with the cat and mouse again and again.

And people act like it's their god damn civic duty to play the part of Tom, or that they're getting some real farking insight into how to catch a mouse in real life when they practice here with a cleaver and a ridiculously oversized wheel of cheese.

What narcissism. What utter and absurd self indulgence.


I agree with PsiChick . It needs to be said over and over for the benefit of people who haven't heard it. It is also mental masturbation.

like it or not there are REAL PEOPLE IRL that actually think like these idiots. This is a good place to survey all the angles to destroy their pathetic worldview when they want to one up you in the company break room or family picnic.
 
2013-05-10 01:51:07 AM  

fusillade762: I was thinking more along the lines of Republicans as Joachim. Even as the ship is falling apart around them and they're dying they still praise their leader's superior intellect.


It's been awhile since I've seen that one. I'm strangely reminded of this episode:

tos.trekcore.com
 
2013-05-10 01:59:38 AM  
From an article on LinkedIn, written by the CEO of Gallup: "Here's the problem: The very survival of America depends on job growth and GDP. But what are the White House, Congress, and all of the media and talking heads focusing on? Guns, immigration reform, and foreign affairs. Bluntly, none of these issues have much to do with the core drivers or root causes of America's potential decline."

There are many in the business community who share his sentiments, but will not speak up because the last thing they want to appear is "liberal".
This bullsh*t going on in washington is a prime example of what he's talking about, and the republicans are behind it all. Every last f*cking bit of it.
The minority party is supposed not only to oppose the majority party if their ideas are indeed in opposition, but to come up with better ideas of their own and use them to negotiate with the majority party to find the best solution.
Their job is not to act like petulant children in a farking Monty Python gainsaying sketch.
"NUH-UH!"
"Yuh-huh!"
"NUH-UH!"
"Yuh-huh!"
 "NUH-UH!"
"Yuh-huh!"
"NUH-UH!"
"Yuh-huh!"
 "NUH-UH!"
"Yuh-huh!"
"NUH-UH times infinity!"

Good editorial, good read.
 
2013-05-10 02:01:26 AM  

GhostFish: My god, can't a farking discussion take place without people trying to educate the same trolls on the same subjects again and again? They don't have farking amnesia, people. They just post the same shiat again and again because they know it will get attention.


Are you stupid. Do you think people respond to them to educate them?

The Republican MO is to repeat bullshat until the uninformed viewer thinks they have a point. After all, they keep hear it, there must be something to it!

Not correcting their bullshat let's that shat out in the open uncorrected. Not correcting their sorry ares plays right into their hands.

People don't correct Republicans to change the minds of Republicans, they do it so their misinformation doesn't infect innocent bystanders.
 
2013-05-10 02:06:23 AM  

jjorsett: And now you see how the opposition reacts to a prez whose attitude toward bipartisanship is, "I won". Well so did they, so screw you too.

By the way, two of those five years the dems had a filibuster-proof majority, so revise your whining points.


More lies.

Franken's nomination was held off for months during a long recount. When he was finally in, Kennedy died 2 months later.

You "2 years" are literally "2 months." Literally, Objective mathematical fact.

Lie more.
 
2013-05-10 02:15:52 AM  
Are you stinky libs still crying about this?

Elections have consequences.  GET OVER IT!
 
2013-05-10 02:23:48 AM  

TV's Vinnie: To borrow the line from Game of Thrones, the gop would burn down this country just so that they could be kings of the ashes.


Yup.
 
2013-05-10 02:28:23 AM  
I'm glad I won't be alive 100 years from now because I'd hate to read how historians of the day rake us over the coals. (And by "us," I really mean "them" but I have to write "us" because, of course, both sides are equally bad ...)
 
2013-05-10 02:39:19 AM  
I read the headline as "histrionic level of obstructionism" and it worked just as well.

/smh
 
2013-05-10 02:50:31 AM  

Bonanza Jellybean: I read the headline as "histrionic level of obstructionism" and it worked just as well.

/smh


Glad I'm not the only one.
 
2013-05-10 03:07:17 AM  
 ♫ Obstruction Junction, what's your function?  ♫
 
2013-05-10 03:48:00 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!

 
2013-05-10 03:51:11 AM  
Not a repeat from 1994-2006?
 
2013-05-10 05:35:23 AM  

rewind2846: The minority party is supposed not only to oppose the majority party if their ideas are indeed in opposition, but to come up with better ideas of their own and use them to negotiate with the majority party to find the best solution.


Seems like that was kind of how it worked until about 25 years ago. Now we're caught in a downward spiral of self-destruction. On the bright side, the American system of representative government lasted almost 250 years, which is a pretty good run.
 
2013-05-10 05:54:11 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Party before country every single time

/it's not even news anymore


Indeed.

For those other folks in the thread saying basically "What is the Minority party supposed to do?", it's simple. Put forth your own ideas, and work with the Majority party to seek a compromise. You know, Bi-Partisanship? This worked just fine for the last 200+ years, and while there have been bumps in the road here or there, the GOP during the Obama Administration has taken partisanship to an all-new level.

There's a reason you see "We get it, he's Black" all the time in the Politics threads. I'm not saying the GOP is entirely racist, but they are all playing along with a central leadership that are opposing Obama on every single thing, and offering zero compromise. The GOP does not wish to compromise at all, it is either "their way or the highway", despite being the Minority party.

They were not this way with Clinton, so what is so different about this President, to raise such ire? That's right, he's Black. And for many, many Conservatives, racism is still the norm.
 
2013-05-10 06:17:34 AM  

fisker: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!


Well, we're at the point where no one is reading anyone else's posts and we're in reruns. Someone get the lights.
 
2013-05-10 06:38:20 AM  

MmmmBacon: They were not this way with Clinton, so what is so different about this President, to raise such ire? That's right, he's Black. And for many, many Conservatives, racism is still the norm.


They weren't?

img.timeinc.net

Not to mention Rush Limbaugh having his own late-night rant show on broadcast television.

I'm not saying you're wrong about the underlying racism... but don't think they wouldn't be just as petulant about a white male Democrat. These are very different times.
 
2013-05-10 06:43:55 AM  

clkeagle: MmmmBacon: They were not this way with Clinton, so what is so different about this President, to raise such ire? That's right, he's Black. And for many, many Conservatives, racism is still the norm.

They weren't?

Not to mention Rush Limbaugh having his own late-night rant show on broadcast television.


What doesn't any of that have to do with congressional obstructionism?
 
2013-05-10 06:59:58 AM  
Mass beatings on the house and senate floors would be an option. Would that be legal?
 
2013-05-10 07:07:15 AM  

clkeagle: MmmmBacon: They were not this way with Clinton, so what is so different about this President, to raise such ire? That's right, he's Black. And for many, many Conservatives, racism is still the norm.

They weren't?

[img.timeinc.net image 200x267]

Not to mention Rush Limbaugh having his own late-night rant show on broadcast television.

I'm not saying you're wrong about the underlying racism... but don't think they wouldn't be just as petulant about a white male Democrat. These are very different times.


There was still some bi-partisanship in the Clinton era, although yes, it wasn't an ideal working relationship by any means. A white Democratic President would have issues from the GOP today, this is true, but I highly doubt they would have the GOP leadership vowing never to give that President a single victory, and oppose him or her at any cost. That is what they are doing to Obama, and McConnell and his cronies are clearly being this way due to our President's skin color.
 
2013-05-10 07:08:51 AM  

Mugato: jjorsett: By the way, two of those five years the dems had a filibuster-proof majority, so revise your whining points.

Well that's just a complete lie.


If you took away everything he's said over the years on fark that WASN'T a complete lie, it would be as if he never existed.
 
2013-05-10 07:11:55 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Mass beatings on the house and senate floors would be an option. Would that be legal?


Alas, no. But when the Revolution comes, we all know who will be first against the wall.
 
2013-05-10 07:17:18 AM  

Mugato: What doesn't any of that have to do with congressional obstructionism?


Rush doesn't - he was just playing the early role of Fox News. But the Starr Report was as much Newt's as the credit rating downgrade is Boehner's. Also, forgot to include this one:

upload.wikimedia.org

Even Boehner and McConnell haven't taken it that far. Yet.
 
2013-05-10 07:32:49 AM  

KeatingFive: Mugato: jjorsett: By the way, two of those five years the dems had a filibuster-proof majority, so revise your whining points.

Well that's just a complete lie.

If you took away everything he's said over the years on fark that WASN'T a complete lie, it would be as if he never existed.


what about this post?
 
2013-05-10 08:37:06 AM  
They obstruct everything. Then they campaign on things like, "my opponent is a career Washington politician. If you want nothing accomplished, if you want more of the same, vote for him."
 
2013-05-10 08:54:58 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Blues_X: Subvert democracy, obviously.

This doesn't even make sense! They were elected too. Should they just roll over and let things they know are a bad idea go though?!

Car_Ramrod: We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!

If you think they haven't put forwards some ideas then you not paying attention. Try reading something other than the Huff Post and Mother Jones.

No the opposition should vote against....that seems reasonable, do you think the minority should be allowed to stop the elected government from voting for things they disagree with?

 
2013-05-10 09:24:16 AM  

cabbyman: Are you stinky libs still crying about this?

Elections have consequences.  GET OVER IT!


lol. you mean the election we just had? the one where the GOP lost its ass? the one where the only reason they kept the house is due to republican gerrymandering? that election?

/yes, i know you're trolling
//some people actually believe this, though.
 
2013-05-10 11:21:09 AM  

impaler: It's like they get off on looking like foolish douchebags.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-10 01:09:17 PM  

jjorsett: By the way, two of those five years the dems had a filibuster-proof majority, so revise your whining points.


Complete bullshiat.
 
2013-05-10 04:07:12 PM  

Evil High Priest: jjorsett: By the way, two of those five years the dems had a filibuster-proof majority, so revise your whining points.

Complete bullshiat.


So much this. I think Fark should hook up a device that emits an electric shock every time someone posts this often-debunked talking point.
 
2013-05-10 04:31:22 PM  

Harry_Seldon: ♫ Obstruction Junction, what's your function?  ♫


Now I want to go watch Schoolhouse Rock for the rest of the day.
 
2013-05-10 08:25:10 PM  

remus: FlashHarry: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well what else is the minority part suppose to do?!

be the loyal opposition and put country ahead of party?

NAH.

Want to take odds what course the Dems take next time the pendulum swings and they are the minority?  (hint:  last time they obstructed too).  It's the game.  Both sides do it when they are in the minority.  Give up the holier than thou attitude.


I kinda wish the Dems had done a better job of obstructing the Iraq War and the Bush tax cuts.
 
2013-05-10 11:07:21 PM  

impaler: [www.thefiscaltimes.com image 587x549]

Is this enough labeling?


Wow. You don't say?

/we need to keep Republicans
//they're the best way to guarantee Hillary in '16
 
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