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(Guardian)   State Department rejects the Benghazi criticism from its own senior diplomat Gregory Hicks, says he's full of sh*t about his demotion and his views of the event   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 292
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2013-05-09 04:02:44 PM
Him and Bob Woodward can get together and share war stories about how Obama has threatened them.
 
2013-05-09 04:03:04 PM

Vodka Zombie: When petty shiat like this starts happening, and we start giving validity on a Congressional level to paranoid and lunatic fantasies, it's hard not to see this country as deserving of a saturation bombing at the hands of one of this planet's much better nations.

We don't deserve this country.



And here I thought I was having a rough day....
 
2013-05-09 04:03:34 PM

jjorsett: Skanque: The only thing I can think is that security was inadequate at the consulate on that day, a fact that we can blame on republicans who cut the state department budget for embassy security.

And even assuming that to be true, what about the folks who went ahead and put people in there anyway knowing that the security was inadequate? Do they bear any responsibility, or is that reserved for people with (R)  by their names?


Order of blame:
1) terrorists
2) Ambassador Stevens
3) State Department
4) Hillary Clinton
5) Obama
6) Republicans

Order of credit for diplomatic security everywhere else during Obama' first term:
1) Ambassadors
2) State Department
3) Hillary Clinton
4) Obama
5) Republicans
 
2013-05-09 04:03:50 PM

jjorsett: Skanque: The only thing I can think is that security was inadequate at the consulate on that day, a fact that we can blame on republicans who cut the state department budget for embassy security.

And even assuming that to be true, what about the folks who went ahead and put people in there anyway knowing that the security was inadequate? Do they bear any responsibility, or is that reserved for people with (R)  by their names?


This is the most rational argument made about anything scandal-worthy I've seen yet.  Problem with this is that embassy security was cut across the board, so  was there anything in particular about Benghazi that was especially dangerous?  What about all the embassies in Muslim parts of the world?  Did we need to abandon all our diplomatic missions because of these security issues?  And don't diplomats and their staff assume a significant risk being in these places in the first place?  For this to be scandalous there would have to be specific documents addressing a lack of security at the Benghazi installation in particular, and proof that said reports were ignored.
 
2013-05-09 04:04:52 PM

Pick: Wow, Hicks tells the truth and the libs all come unglued like Hillary at a Congressional hearing. Woot!!! I love it.

What a bunch of sore losers. God, I hate Democrats.


What have we lost lately, sunshine?
 
2013-05-09 04:05:05 PM

Skanque: jjorsett: Skanque: The only thing I can think is that security was inadequate at the consulate on that day, a fact that we can blame on republicans who cut the state department budget for embassy security.

And even assuming that to be true, what about the folks who went ahead and put people in there anyway knowing that the security was inadequate? Do they bear any responsibility, or is that reserved for people with (R)  by their names?

This is the most rational argument made about anything scandal-worthy I've seen yet.  Problem with this is that embassy security was cut across the board, so  was there anything in particular about Benghazi that was especially dangerous?  What about all the embassies in Muslim parts of the world?  Did we need to abandon all our diplomatic missions because of these security issues?  And don't diplomats and their staff assume a significant risk being in these places in the first place?  For this to be scandalous there would have to be specific documents addressing a lack of security at the Benghazi installation in particular, and proof that said reports were ignored.


You can deflect all you want, but Obama will still be black.
 
2013-05-09 04:05:49 PM

SamWaters: Look this is all BULLshiat.  Obama ordered a stand down in Benghazi then went to bed early.   That was his prerogative as Commander-in-Chief.  NO SCANDAL HERE?


It's funny.  All of the earlier talking points from months ago were that Obama was asleep when this was going on.  Now he was awake and giving all the orders?

Also...the "stand down" order, in Hicks' own words, did not come from the President.

I really need to do a better job at keeping track of all the fauxrage.
 
2013-05-09 04:05:59 PM

Soup4Bonnie: jjorsett: And even assuming that to be true, what about the folks who went ahead and put people in there anyway knowing that the security was inadequate? Do they bear any responsibility, or is that. reserved for people with (R)  by their names?

As, Mrs. How already pointed out, Ambassador Stevens is the one who thought keeping the Benghazi consulate open despite the security risks.  But, hey, get up on that cross and complain how the R's are the persecuted while they hold endless witch-hunt hearings.  You guys are always crying about something.


Oh.... hmmmm.  So Stevens pretty much farked his own chicken?  Interesting.
 
2013-05-09 04:07:46 PM

Skanque: jjorsett: Skanque: The only thing I can think is that security was inadequate at the consulate on that day, a fact that we can blame on republicans who cut the state department budget for embassy security.

And even assuming that to be true, what about the folks who went ahead and put people in there anyway knowing that the security was inadequate? Do they bear any responsibility, or is that reserved for people with (R)  by their names?

This is the most rational argument made about anything scandal-worthy I've seen yet.  Problem with this is that embassy security was cut across the board, so  was there anything in particular about Benghazi that was especially dangerous?  What about all the embassies in Muslim parts of the world?  Did we need to abandon all our diplomatic missions because of these security issues?  And don't diplomats and their staff assume a significant risk being in these places in the first place?  For this to be scandalous there would have to be specific documents addressing a lack of security at the Benghazi installation in particular, and proof that said reports were ignored.


Some of the very points posed during the questioning earlier this week, the answers for which debunked the very conspiracies being touted by folks hoping to turn Benghazi into a "scandal" so they could forcibly oust Hillary.

The more the GOP tries to turn this into a "scandal", the worse they look for the effort. It's fun to watch.
 
2013-05-09 04:08:42 PM

MSFT: Diogenes: Is Benghazi a Fark tag yet?

The REAL scandal is that this is taking away from the birth certificate discussion. Why doesn't anyone want to look into that??????


How is the Benghazi scandal like Obama's birth certificate?  Neither exist.
 
Bf+
2013-05-09 04:09:27 PM

theknuckler_33: Oh, so that demotion story was pure unadulterated bullshiat, eh?


Or as I like to call it:
a4.mzstatic.com
 
2013-05-09 04:09:53 PM

Skanque: Oh.... hmmmm. So Stevens pretty much farked his own chicken? Interesting.


It's clear that Obama was provided with a mind-control device (or possibly a Staff of Domination) by either the Muslim Brotherhood or the Reverse Vampires which was then used to overcome the Ambassador's will and make him a suicidal puppet.
 
2013-05-09 04:12:58 PM
So when is this guy's book coming out?
 
2013-05-09 04:13:13 PM

FormlessOne: The more the GOP tries to turn this into a "scandal", the worse they look for the effort. It's fun to watch.


Which is a shame... they should've stuck with Fast and Furious.

Of course, I had my moment of revelation regarding Obama's JAP (Just Another Politician) status years ago during the Sestak/Specter PA Senate seat race.
 
2013-05-09 04:14:05 PM
If these farktards spend as much energy finding out why we are hated (Two illegal wars caused by a jackwad, who's dad set up the dictator saddam in the first place) they might figure out that the were had.
It was a hell of a con, but the bush's pulled it off. Cheney, too.
Made $40 BILLION off of it. Took a while, but a good con takes time.

You all got took.
 
2013-05-09 04:14:32 PM
a2.mzstatic.com

Is Fugazi a Minor Threat?
 
2013-05-09 04:15:48 PM

The_Gallant_Gallstone: FormlessOne: The more the GOP tries to turn this into a "scandal", the worse they look for the effort. It's fun to watch.

Which is a shame... they should've stuck with Fast and Furious.

Of course, I had my moment of revelation regarding Obama's JAP (Just Another Politician) status years ago during the Sestak/Specter PA Senate seat race.


See, f&f was actually a honest - to - God charlie foxtrot. This crap is just dumb
 
2013-05-09 04:16:22 PM
Who wouldn't want to work with this guy? You know that when the chips are down he'll have your back blame everyone else and whine about not getting a promotion.
 
2013-05-09 04:16:46 PM

Fart_Machine: So when is this guy's book coming out?


I can't wait to see it on my benghazi-obsessed parents' coffee table.
 
2013-05-09 04:20:36 PM

Skanque: Oh.... hmmmm.  So Stevens pretty much farked his own chicken?  Interesting.


Despite that warning, Mr Stevens did not ask for more U.S. troops, and commented that Benghazi officials believed the city was becoming safer.
 
2013-05-09 04:21:20 PM

The_Gallant_Gallstone: FormlessOne: The more the GOP tries to turn this into a "scandal", the worse they look for the effort. It's fun to watch.

Which is a shame... they should've stuck with Fast and Furious.

Of course, I had my moment of revelation regarding Obama's JAP (Just Another Politician) status years ago during the Sestak/Specter PA Senate seat race.


Honestly between that and HSBC, you can pretty much claim Holder is either the dumbest AG ever or he's being paid off by the Mexican drug cartels.  Either way he needs to be disbarred at a minimum
 
2013-05-09 04:22:42 PM
I keep waiting for Ashton Kutcher to leap out and yell, "You've been Benghazzled! Wooooo!!!" at these things.
 
2013-05-09 04:23:03 PM

Pick: God, I hate Democrats.


Unpossible.  Only Democrats are capable of hate.  You guys say so all the time.
 
2013-05-09 04:23:54 PM

vernonFL: [a2.mzstatic.com image 170x170]

Is Fugazi a Minor Threat?


*golf clap*
 
2013-05-09 04:23:58 PM

Rapmaster2000: The plot thickens. Clearly, Obama's goons have infiltrated the government!


There was a left wing conspiracy theory on 08 that the Shrub was leaving moles on high places on the bureaucracy to muck things up at opportune times.
 
2013-05-09 04:25:31 PM
Politics doesn't stop with elected officials. Lots of federal government employees think their No. 1 job is to whine, position themselves, suck up, and fire back when things don't go their way. Then, they're punished for that by being "reassigned." But hardly ever cuts in pay with those "demotions." This guy could be one of those types but it's probably true he's being punished for shooting off his mouth.

Maybe there's an opening in the White House travel office where he could ride out his career.
 
2013-05-09 04:26:10 PM

Pick: Wow, Hicks tells the truth and the libs all come unglued like Hillary at a Congressional hearing. Woot!!! I love it.

What a bunch of sore losers. God, I hate Democrats.


So the truth is what you believe it to be and not what it actually is? That right there is Republican thinking at it's finest.
 
2013-05-09 04:27:50 PM
Welcome to "greenlight everything Benghazi" day here at Farks News.
 
2013-05-09 04:28:01 PM

Cletus C.: Politics doesn't stop with elected officials. Lots of federal government employees think their No. 1 job is to whine, position themselves, suck up, and fire back when things don't go their way. Then, they're punished for that by being "reassigned." But hardly ever cuts in pay with those "demotions." This guy could be one of those types but it's probably true he's being punished for shooting off his mouth.

Maybe there's an opening in the White House travel office where he could ride out his career.


It puts Republicans in a difficult position.  They have to side with a career public servant or the bureaucracy lead by Obama.  You can't win.
 
2013-05-09 04:29:54 PM

A Dark Evil Omen:

i.imgur.com


s7.postimg.org  Benghazi, not a repeat from Benghazi

s7.postimg.org  ZOMFG Benghazi

s7.postimg.org  Benghazi? C) Benghazi

s7.postimg.org  Your dog wants Benghazi

s7.postimg.org  LOL Benghazi

s7.postimg.org  Benghazi WTF

s7.postimg.org  Benghazi

s7.postimg.org  Benghazi
 
2013-05-09 04:30:12 PM
Fox News' first three words on their homepage right now are "PRESSURE GROWS: Boehner..."

pfffffffffftt
 
2013-05-09 04:31:29 PM

ShadowKamui: The_Gallant_Gallstone: FormlessOne: The more the GOP tries to turn this into a "scandal", the worse they look for the effort. It's fun to watch.

Which is a shame... they should've stuck with Fast and Furious.

Of course, I had my moment of revelation regarding Obama's JAP (Just Another Politician) status years ago during the Sestak/Specter PA Senate seat race.

Honestly between that and HSBC, you can pretty much claim Holder is either the dumbest AG ever or he's being paid off by the Mexican drug cartels.  Either way he needs to be disbarred at a minimum


So no more questions about Benghazi?  You seemed really concerned yesterday.  Just another coward partisan hack.
 
2013-05-09 04:32:16 PM

vernonFL: [a2.mzstatic.com image 170x170]

Is Fugazi a Minor Threat?


Nice.
 
2013-05-09 04:32:56 PM

Cletus C.: probably true


Based on what evidence?
 
2013-05-09 04:37:14 PM

Skanque: The only thing I can think is that security was inadequate at the consulate on that day, a fact that we can blame on republicans who cut the state department budget for embassy security.


Given that the Accountability Review Board came out and said that "the short term, transitory nature of Special Mission Benghazi's staffing, with talented and committed, but relatively inexperienced American personnel often on temporary assignments of 40 days or less, resulted in diminished institutional knowledge, continuity and mission capacity," coupled with "systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies at senior levels within two bureaus of the State Department resulted in a Special Mission security posture that was inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place...That said, Embassy Tripoli did not demonstrate strong and sustained advocacy with Washington for increased security for Special Mission Benghazi." It sounds there is a lot of blame to go around. Probably because motherfarking Iraq was sucking up all the civilian and military resources that were best placed to act in the theater. It probably didn't help that, as Darrell Issa put it, Special Mission Benghazi was more a CIA operational base than a diplomatic consulate.That gives far more motivation to attack the compound and the annex than as a simple diplomatic outpost.
 
2013-05-09 04:37:17 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: probably true

Based on what evidence?


a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com

"Probably true" is a kind of true.
 
2013-05-09 04:38:11 PM

Cletus C.: Politics doesn't stop with elected officials. Lots of federal government employees think their No. 1 job is to whine, position themselves, suck up, and fire back when things don't go their way. Then, they're punished for that by being "reassigned." But hardly ever cuts in pay with those "demotions." This guy could be one of those types but it's probably true he's being punished for shooting off his mouth.

Maybe there's an opening in the White House travel office where he could ride out his career.


Isn't it kind of tough to call being reassigned 'punishment' when it appears that Hicks himself requested his Libya assignment be shortened?
 
2013-05-09 04:39:38 PM

Somacandra: If the House Republicans have a problem with that they should be asking the Joint Chiefs and former Sec Def Leon Panetta to testify.


Soemhow, I doubt the GOP wants a bunch of 3 and 4 star generals testifying in open session that the GOP talking points are all wrong.
 
2013-05-09 04:42:22 PM

shifty lookin bleeder: A Dark Evil Omen:

[i.imgur.com image 665x68]
[s7.postimg.org image 54x11]  Benghazi, not a repeat from Benghazi

[s7.postimg.org image 54x11]  ZOMFG Benghazi

[s7.postimg.org image 54x11]  Benghazi? C) Benghazi

[s7.postimg.org image 54x11]  Your dog wants Benghazi

[s7.postimg.org image 54x11]  LOL Benghazi

[s7.postimg.org image 54x11]  Benghazi WTF

[s7.postimg.org image 54x11]  Benghazi

[s7.postimg.org image 54x11]  Benghazi




i.imgur.com

R.I.P.  ALL THINGS BENGHAZI AND PIZZA


 
2013-05-09 04:42:36 PM

Marcus Aurelius: This guy practically screams "TEABAGGER".


I kinda resent that. In this particular photo he looks pretty much just like me.
 
2013-05-09 04:43:43 PM
starsmedia.ign.com

"Should have nuked them from orbit"
 
2013-05-09 04:45:32 PM
Hey, guys. I heard someone wanted to talk about me. What's up?
 
2013-05-09 04:46:58 PM
Geeze, so this clown was the one who was supposed to "blow the lid" off of the Behangazi scandal  like Fox news has been promoting the past couple of days? Well all hes doing seems to be a Fox News Audition reel. ( Spoiler alert: he gets the job )

What started out as a last ditch effort to help Romney win has turned into sour grapes for losing, to now a preemptive strike on Hillairy before she runs.

Fox News: the only recycling they believe in is fake rage.
 
2013-05-09 04:47:52 PM

Ben Ghazi: Hey, guys. I heard someone wanted to talk about me. What's up?


4.bp.blogspot.com

RIP Ben Ghazi
 
2013-05-09 04:48:31 PM

CynicalLA: ShadowKamui: The_Gallant_Gallstone: FormlessOne: The more the GOP tries to turn this into a "scandal", the worse they look for the effort. It's fun to watch.

Which is a shame... they should've stuck with Fast and Furious.

Of course, I had my moment of revelation regarding Obama's JAP (Just Another Politician) status years ago during the Sestak/Specter PA Senate seat race.

Honestly between that and HSBC, you can pretty much claim Holder is either the dumbest AG ever or he's being paid off by the Mexican drug cartels.  Either way he needs to be disbarred at a minimum

So no more questions about Benghazi?  You seemed really concerned yesterday.  Just another coward partisan hack.


I'm not the idiot ignoring the actual investigation report that pretty much blamed a bunch of idiot middle managers in Washington and that even Hillary tried to fire cause they screwed up so badly.  They need to be fired and the state department needs to be fixed so something like that can't happen again.  Seriously quit defending utter stupidity/incompetence just cause Obama is their boss.
 
2013-05-09 04:51:54 PM

ShadowKamui: CynicalLA: ShadowKamui: The_Gallant_Gallstone: FormlessOne: The more the GOP tries to turn this into a "scandal", the worse they look for the effort. It's fun to watch.

Which is a shame... they should've stuck with Fast and Furious.

Of course, I had my moment of revelation regarding Obama's JAP (Just Another Politician) status years ago during the Sestak/Specter PA Senate seat race.

Honestly between that and HSBC, you can pretty much claim Holder is either the dumbest AG ever or he's being paid off by the Mexican drug cartels.  Either way he needs to be disbarred at a minimum

So no more questions about Benghazi?  You seemed really concerned yesterday.  Just another coward partisan hack.

I'm not the idiot ignoring the actual investigation report that pretty much blamed a bunch of idiot middle managers in Washington and that even Hillary tried to fire cause they screwed up so badly.  They need to be fired and the state department needs to be fixed so something like that can't happen again.  Seriously quit defending utter stupidity/incompetence just cause Obama is their boss.


Yep, worthless partisan hack.  Thanks for confirming.
 
2013-05-09 04:53:08 PM
/sigh
Of course he turns out to be another clown in the circus.

Can we start putting Bengazi threads where they belong from now on - the Entertainment tab? Because this fake scandal BS is clearly all just a show for GOP true believers, not a scandal of any actual substance to an open, objective mind.
 
2013-05-09 04:54:33 PM

Bane of Broone: Pick: Wow, Hicks tells the truth and the libs all come unglued like Hillary at a Congressional hearing. Woot!!! I love it.

What a bunch of sore losers. God, I hate Democrats.

So the truth is what you believe it to be and not what it actually is? That right there is Republican thinking at it's finest.


It is the one reason why they are trying to destroy the country. They cannot stand to see a Democrat in charge, and will do anything to be back in the White House.
 
2013-05-09 04:57:09 PM

Skanque: I keep seeing a lot of right-wing outrage in the comments on various websites about this whole Benghazi thing, but what the hell is the scandal?  All their theories don't make any sense.  Given the opportunity, we all know Dronebama would rain hellfire down on any brown people anywhere in that part of the world.  No sitting president would tell a strike team or the like to stand down if there was something they could have done.

The only thing I can think is that security was inadequate at the consulate on that day, a fact that we can blame on republicans who cut the state department budget for embassy security.

This whole thing is unnecessarily retarded, and the more this drags on the angrier I get at these idiots who keep trying to make it a scandal.

/Not related, but if Issa ever asked me any questions, I would simply ignore him and say "I don't respond to someone with the morals of a car-thief".


Because Obama is so incompetent that he could have totally prevented the whole thing but instead he sat watching it all on a crystal clear, multi-angle video feed with his feet up on the desk, eating popcorn. And he didn't send a few nearby Navy seals on a suicide mission to the consulate or scramble fighter jets that would have taken hours to get there because he hates America and is a sekrit mooslum. What's so hard to understand? Obama bad!
 
2013-05-09 04:58:56 PM

Ben Ghazi: Hey, guys. I heard someone wanted to talk about me. What's up?


www.bennybenassi.com

RIP BENNY BENASSI
 
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