the_sidewinder: Difficulty: There is no fast lane
I_Am_Weasel: I assume they once again failed to address the menace of uncanceled turn signals?
un4gvn666: f you're complaining about people tailgating you in the left lane, get the fark out of the left lane.
un4gvn666: If you have to turn left, get in the left lane with your signal on. However, if you are in the left lane and you're not passing someone on your right, get the fark out of the lane.
Koodz: #18 is how I know you don't know what a zip merge is. You're the problem, not the solution when you move over too early.
PsyLord: CorruptDB: imfallen_angel: How about just going with a pet peeve while driving bingo.1- slow drivers2- drivers that have no clue on how to use their signal lights3- drivers that believe that those lines on the ground are only for decoration and doesn't apply to them4- similar to #3, but these drivers believe that regardless of how many lanes they are, that they are driving on all of them, swerving from one side of the road to the other back and forth, over and over again, I'm guessing after learning to drive on a racing video game.5- getting stuck behind the asshat in the standard at a red light in a small hill, where the asshat cannot handle being able to prevent his vehicle from creeping backwards bit by bit as he has no ability with a clutch. (but will assure you of how great a driver they are)6- cellphones, either talking or texting, they should be pulled over and kicked and such like a faulty printer. I've see idiots holding their cells to their head while letting go of the steering wheel because they needed to make gestures while talking. Same with the ones applying make-up while driving.7- dogs, another scenario where the driver that has the dog on their lap (or jumping all over the place) should be pulled over and beaten until their spleen comes out.8- bumper riders... "look idiot, I'm either going at the limit or even higher (and that's the limit that I will go as I refuse to get a ticket over your dumbass), there is no way for me to let you pass right now because if I could I would as I enjoy having a buffer for the cops to go after, and if you seriously need to get to that red light 3 seconds faster so you can show your amazing braking abilities, you should go rent a racetrack and get it out of your system."9- Drivers who refuse to merge when their lane is ending until the lines force them over. Once they hit the end of the lane, they just start drifting into the through lane (no signal of course) and force their way in, usually slowin ...
eraser8: I_Am_Weasel: I assume they once again failed to address the menace of uncanceled turn signals?The people I want cannonized* are the people who brake and only use their turn signals once they've slowed down to 5 miles per hour. Please, for the love of all that is good, signal your turn BEFORE applying the brake.*cannonized: to be shot out of a cannon. Not to be confused with canonized: to be declared a saint.
x1v16: I am going to use this traffic thread to ask people the following question: If there are signs indicating that one of 2 lanes will be ending in 2-3 miles due to construction do you have a legal/moral obligation to merge as soon as possible if traffic is backed up in a traffic jam in the remaining lane? I personally see 2-3 miles of traffic backed up, one empty lane, and think it stupid to not use the perfectly good lane to pass everyone. In my mind one should only merge as soon as possible if traffic was moving fast enough to make last minute merging a danger. Course some people get pissed off that I'm passing them and I even had someone driving half in one lane half in the other to try to keep people like me from passing them in that lane. So, anyone know the legality of using a lane until the last minute when instant merging is not required for safety?.[2.bp.blogspot.com image 685x526]
Kibbler: Here's another law I'd like, for all of you look-at-me-I'm-a-super-driver-get-out-of-my-way douchebags.If I'm in the right lane, and I'm going 10 miles an hour over the speed limit, and the left two lanes are empty, and you come up and tailgate me, because you think you own every farking lane on the road, and you demand that I move left so that you can pass me on the right, then you're a jerk and you get a nice hefty ticket.Here's another one. If I move from the left lane to the middle lane to pass someone who is going at or below the speed limit, and you come up behind me 25+ miles over the limit, and again you tailgate me, because you're so farking important that the road belongs to you, again, jerk, ticket.People who imagine themselves to be super drivers do not own the road. They give me far more headaches than people driving below the speed limit in the left lane. In fact, I almost never see people driving below the speed limit in the left lane. But I have jerks tailgating me in the right lane, when I'm going over the limit, all the time.I think what you super drivers mean is "anybody driving slower than I do in the left lane."
Huggermugger: The only time I drive less than the speed limit us when there's congestion on the road.
cloister the stupid: The All-Powerful Atheismo: As a guy who thinks people who drive more than 5 or 10 over the speed limit are dangerous psychotics except in case of extreme emergency, This is an idea I can support.The left lane is for people going the speed limit or slightly over. Not for slow driving.Current posted speed limit in Ohio is 60, so by your logic that makes anyone in Ohio going 65+ a dangerous psychotic with no regards for safety or life. In July when the speed limits are raised to 70 could you please explain to me how someone goes from being a "dangerous psychotic" to someone driving under the speed limit?I have never understood anyone who believes speed limits have anything to do with safety but if you are right and speed limits truely are for safety Ohio is sending everyone to their death.
fredklein: So, like I said, speeding causes MORE crashes, and WORSE crashes.
The All-Powerful Atheismo: As a guy who thinks people who drive more than 5 or 10 over the speed limit are dangerous psychotics except in case of extreme emergency, This is an idea I can support.The left lane is for people going the speed limit or slightly over. Not for slow driving.
fredklein: un4gvn666: I'm advocating that you don't be a damn zombie and follow any rule just because the morons in D.C. or your state capitol decide it should be a law.So, anarchist much?
fredklein: I mean, this is basic Drivers Ed stuff here.
Huggermugger: What most of you bullies do is not to pass, but to tailgate and cut in front and honk and flip the bird.
Huggermugger: As an old lady who just wants to get from point A to point B, I shouldn't have to be the target of your psychological issues.
Huggermugger: And by the way, I found a place to live near work so that I can drive less than 100 miles a month, but sometimes I'm forced to drive someplace, and sometimes I need to turn left, which requires being in the left lane, but that doesn't mean you have the right to rage at me and threaten me.
fredklein: un4gvn666: fredklein: And one of those 'risks' is getting your Drivers License taken away. Then you can't drive AT ALLYou're kidding right?When you lose your license, do they chop off your hands or something where you live?So, your advocating for driving without a license??
fredklein: another cultural observer: Speed is a "factor", not a "cause"So, you wanna play word games to justify breaking the law?
BolloxReader: serial_crusher: I've always thought they should do graduated speed limits in 5mph increments per lane.i.e. if posted sign says 70mph,right lane: no minimum, max 70mphcenter lane: 70 min, 75 maxleft lane: 75 min, 80 maxetcYou'd probably have to work on the "slower traffic keep right" laws to be compatible with that though. i.e. it's currently illegal to drive the speed limit in the left lane, if you're not passing anybody, but with this there's good reason to be hanging out in the left lane, so need some way to resolve the situation where a guy going faster than you approaches. I guess it's reasonable to say that you need to change lanes and slow down to that lane's sped limit until the other guy has passed you?Uh yeah. Run that by the state police. I'm sure they will be 100% supportive of your contention that it is illegal to go the speed limit in the left hand lane.I've only lived in two states, but I'm pretty sure that the drivers ed I took through my high school was totally incorrect about the speed limit applying to all lanes of traffic. That state trooper who led the class was just yanking our chains.
Huggermugger: All of you speed demons who think that you should be allowed to drive at unlimited speed just like on the Autobahn ignore one major thing, which is that they have extremely restrictive laws on the behavior of drivers. In exchange for the right to drive fast, you lose the right to tailgate and intimidate and act like a bully. It appears that many of you enjoy the aggression so much that you'd rather drive like a bully than drive fast.
skozlaw: Driving rant thread!1. Don't be left of any traffic you aren't passing2. Don't drive under the speed limit on the interstate no matter what lane you're in (barring weather or other special conditions)3. Use your farking turn signal4. Don't change lanes just because the person in front of you isn't passing "fast enough" for your taste5. Don't merge without looking6. Don't stop at a farking yield sign unless you actually have to7. Don't ride all the way to the end of the farking onramp before you stop if you can see you're not going to be able to merge8. 4 way stops have three simple rules: FIFO, Yield to the right, Yield on a left turn9. If your goddamn wheels never actually stop moving at the intersection, you didn't stop and it's my farking turn10. Don't slow down to 3 mph to make a right turn11. Don't fark around with your phone just because the light's red, pay attention12. Don't "wave me through" something when it's not my turn13. You have an accelerator, use it. Don't take 30 seconds to get up to speed for no reason14. Don't pull onto the interstate early from the ramp if you're not up to speed yet15. Don't gawk at accidents you drooling dipshiats, I'd like to get home, not stare at blinky fire truck lights16. AWD doesn't mean you can go 60 mph in the snow safely on your summer tires17. Don't stomp on your gas just because the line of stopped traffic moved another 10 feet18. The fact that you used the wrong lane for 500 feet to try and fly past a line of traffic you didn't feel like waiting in isn't my problem and I won't slow down just to let you over where you need to be.I have no idea why people go out of their way to make driving so hard. It really isn't that difficult.
fredklein: skozlaw: fredklein: You can't just up and say say "I think this law is wrong" and expect to be allowed to get away with breaking it.Really? I've gotten away with it a lot more than not. One ticket in 20 years. I speed almost every day.I think you might be full of crap.Hope you don't live next door to someone who disagrees with the Laws against kidnapping/rape/murder...
fredklein: Hope you don't live next door to someone who disagrees with the Laws against kidnapping/rape/murder...
fredklein: skozlaw: Speed is virtually never the cause of a crash.Really?http://www.swov.nl/rapport/Factsheets/UK/FS_Speed.pdfThe exact relation between speed and crashes depends on many factors.However, in a generalsense the relation is very clear: if on a road the driven speeds become higher, the crash rate will alsoincrease. The crash rate is also higher for an individual vehicle that drives at higher speed than the other trafficon that road.As speeds get higher, crashes also result in more serious injury, for thedriver who caused the crash as well as for the crash opponent.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_collisionA number of factors contribute to the risk of collision, including vehicle design, speed of operation, road design, road environment, driver skill and/or impairment, and driver behaviour....The U.S. Department of Transportation's Federal Highway Administration review research on traffic speed in 1998. The summary states:That the evidence shows that the risk of having a crash is increased both for vehicles traveling slower than the average speed, and for those traveling above the average speed.That the risk of being injured increases exponentially with speeds much faster than the median speed.That the severity/lethality of a crash depends on the vehicle speed change at impact.That there is limited evidence that suggests that lower speed limits result in lower speeds on a system wide basis.That most crashes related to speed involve speed too fast for the conditions.So, like I said, speeding causes MORE crashes, and WORSE crashes.
Pud: I think it should be legal to do the PIT maneuver on any car pacing the car in the lane to their right. If you're going to do the same speed as the car next to you, get in front of them, get behind them, just get the hell out of MY way
CrazyCracka420: That's another pet peeve I would see every day after work. The entrance turn lane would always be backed up very far. It was the same every single day. Not every car will get through the turn before the light turns red. The faster people are at the turn, the more cars get through. But you always have one or two assholes who take their sweet time and instead of 20 cars making it through, only 15 do. Not something to rage over, but certainly inconsiderate of them. I just think that a lot of the drivers on the road, just don't think all that much about their actions and how it affects the other drivers.
SevenT: OK... so confession time. I did not grow up in the US (although if I had l been born here I might not have grown up yet either, but that's another issue), but I have now lived in Florida for nearly 2 decades.The one thing that stuck out like a sore thumb when I first arrived on US shores, and still does, is how often I can drive unobstructed in the right lane of the interstate because everyone else is either in the center or left lane. Its like they are zombies and cannot figure out that the fastest lane at that moment is the right hand one. Nope, stick in the left lane because I want to go somewhere.... fast. Or, worse yet... why the heck bother to move over no matter my speed? I like this lane and its suited me for years, so here I will stay and screw everyone elseAnd it seems like it doesn't matter who, but as soon as they enter the interstate, all these drivers head to the left as if it was magnetized.There's nothing like the little old lady who says she never has problems on the Interstate. "I just drive in the left lane and there is a clear road ahead of me." Yeah lady, but did you look behind you at the line of 50 cars that you are holding up?There has to be a cultural reason for this. Can anyone explain?
moothemagiccow: justtray: ZeroCorpse: Wow. A lot of armchair NASCAR professionals here.Don't let me get in the way of your posturing, fellas. We all know that every single one of you drives better than anyone else on the road, including each other.Just stay away from me when you're driving. That's all I ask. I drive exactly the speed limit. I avoid huge clusters and packs of cars and prefer to drive between the packs... AWAY from the other drivers. The only way to be safe from other drivers is to avoid them completely.And when you come cruising up at high speed on my left, be sure to wave, because I'll probably wave back when I catch up to you a moment later at the next light.There's no sense in speeding. You won't get there much faster, thanks to stop signs, signals, traffic, and other factors. You might beat me to the same destination by a minute. Ooooh. I bet that minute really helped you when you were wandering around finding a close parking space while I parked in the back and walked, STILL beating you to the actual destination.People who treat driving like its a competition are to be avoided.That's great, and I'm happy for you and ignorance must surely be bliss to think that going faster doesn't allow you to make lights that you would otherwise hit a red at, but do be just this one solid, and don't use the left lane unless you're passing someone.Thanks.I don't understand why you're so pressed for time.Leave earlier. Relax. You'll get where you need to in time. Being two or three minutes early just isn't worth it. You might even live longer.It's like waiting for someone to leave the front row in a parking lot. Just park in the back and walk.
Nutsac_Jim: ZeroCorpse: There's no sense in speeding. You won't get there much faster, thanks to stop signs, signals, traffic, and other factors. You might beat me to the same destination by a minute.This is false. 'Speeding only gets you there a minute earlier' only applies if you are going site to site. The extra factor is lights. If you speed and get to a long light early enough and make it.. you make it through before the light turns red. Chump McSpeedLimit has to wait a full cycle. That can ad 3-4 minutes. Do that to a couple of lights, and whammo, you are at work 10 minutes earlier.
Kaenneth: There was an interesting study correlating road rage to being circumcised, apparently cut men get much more upset about people driving slow in the 'fast lane' than uncut men.Probably due to their inability to have complete sexual satisfaction.
PJ-: Well I use Mac/Linux...: The thing that drives me farking crazy, which I see EVERY DAMN MORNING on my way to work, is when you are in a line at a stoplight that has just turned green, and people leave like 6 to 8 car lengths in between themselves and the car in front of them. That's 6 people that you just made wait an extra 2-3 minutes while the lights cycle through again. It makes my blood farking boil when I miss a light by 1 or 2 cars, and I see people leaving enough room in front of them for a bus to fit in.These people are easy to correct, you just slip your car in the spot that they left open. They learn very quickly that they shouldn't be leaving that gap. Usually the cause of people feeling they need the gap is when they have been rear ended, which caused them to hit the person in front of them.
ZeroCorpse: There's no sense in speeding. You won't get there much faster, thanks to stop signs, signals, traffic, and other factors. You might beat me to the same destination by a minute.
Pocket Ninja: the_sidewinder: Difficulty: There is no fast laneSee, this is truly the crux of the problem, and has always been so. The issue here is that generations of Americans have, as a sort of shorthand, referred to the left lane on a highway as "the fast lane." But the problem with that is that the word "fast" is quite subjective. I might, for example, believe that since the speed limit is 55, and I am going 57, I am going "fast" and therefore have every much a right to be in the lane as anyone else. Yes, I would have to be a slack-jawed simpleton to believe this, a halfwit bumpkin of no relative merit or worth, but the fact of the matter is that many American are exactly those things. I mean, have you been to Maryland?So stop calling it a fast lane. Spend the extra syllable, refer to it as a passing lane. As in the following:If I am not at this moment actively engaged in the process of passing a vehicle situated on my right-hand side, I should move immediately into the right lane myself and only re-enter the left lane when it becomes again necessary to pass another vehicle. The speed of my passing is irrelevant. How fast I believe I am going is irrelevant. All that matters is the action of passing, nothing else, and then, like a salmon who has just finished spawning and will now rest and die, the act of again moving right. This until it is time to spawn again.Think of slack-jawed simpletons, the halfwit bumpkins everywhere. The Marylanders struggling to understand difficult concepts like "signs" and "signals." Make things easier, not more complicated. Passing lane. It is more difficult to say, but think of the payoffs.
PsyLord: 9- Drivers who refuse to merge when their lane is ending until the lines force them over. Once they hit the end of the lane, they just start drifting into the through lane (no signal of course) and force their way in, usually slowing down (the ...I see this all the time and it is a pet peeve. When they see people merging right in front of them, the step on the gas and floor it, zooming way to the front where now they try to barge into the only lane. Basically they just want to cut in front of all of the normal people that merge like they were suppose to.
CrazyCracka420: That is a pet peeve of many people, but it's only because we're all taught manners (for the most part) and we think of it as "budging" in line. Sure if everyone is getting over a mile before the lane ends, and some people are flying ahead of 100 cars, it can seem like a dick move, but all those people getting over early are part of the problem (of the road being backed up). It's proven that the zipper merge is the most efficient way for traffic to merge. That means using both lanes up until the point where one lane ends...not getting over a 1/4 mile before hand./themoreyouknow.jpg
serial_crusher: CrazyCracka420: It's proven that the zipper merge is the most efficient way for traffic to mergeI disagree with that "proof". It holds up when you're in bumper to bumper rush hour traffic, but if both lanes are going a reasonable speed, it's more important to merge where there's a safe gap to fit in, instead of going all the way to the end where one or more likely both of you will have to slow down.
CrazyCracka420: It's proven that the zipper merge is the most efficient way for traffic to merge
ZeroCorpse: There's no sense in speeding. You won't get there much faster, thanks to stop signs, signals, traffic, and other factors. You might beat me to the same destination by a minute. Ooooh. I bet that minute really helped you when you were wandering around finding a close parking space while I parked in the back and walked, STILL beating you to the actual destination.
moothemagiccow: You do know what "limit" means, right?
skozlaw: Driving rant thread!
ZeroCorpse: Wow. A lot of armchair NASCAR professionals here.Don't let me get in the way of your posturing, fellas. We all know that every single one of you drives better than anyone else on the road, including each other.Just stay away from me when you're driving. That's all I ask. I drive exactly the speed limit. I avoid huge clusters and packs of cars and prefer to drive between the packs... AWAY from the other drivers. The only way to be safe from other drivers is to avoid them completely.And when you come cruising up at high speed on my left, be sure to wave, because I'll probably wave back when I catch up to you a moment later at the next light.There's no sense in speeding. You won't get there much faster, thanks to stop signs, signals, traffic, and other factors. You might beat me to the same destination by a minute. Ooooh. I bet that minute really helped you when you were wandering around finding a close parking space while I parked in the back and walked, STILL beating you to the actual destination.People who treat driving like its a competition are to be avoided.
CorruptDB: 9- Drivers who refuse to merge when their lane is ending until the lines force them over. Once they hit the end of the lane, they just start drifting into the through lane (no signal of course) and force their way in, usually slowing down (they think the proper way to merge into 75 MPH traffic is to slow down to 45). It seems like they are thinking "Well, there's no way I could have forseen this! Well, the lines are forcing me over, nothing I can do, it's out of my hands!". These morons drive the same route every day but don't seem to remember that the lane ends, maybe they think the DOT came in overnight and extended the lane.
Well I use Mac/Linux...: is when you are in a line at a stoplight that has just turned green, and people leave like 6 to 8 car lengths in between themselves and the car in front of them
Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Yes, but your speeding, tailgating, illegal lane changes, and other aggressive driving behaviors cause wrecks too.
scottydoesntknow: Fark that, it should be anything slower than the posted speed limit (barring traffic/accidents). If you're in the left lane going 56 in a 65 you're still royally farking up traffic flow./Hate chicken-shiat douchebags that just ride in the left lane because they don't know how to actually drive
Albert911emt: Stupid. How about a law that forbids going slower than the speed limit in the fast lane? Or better yet, a law that says if you're going slower than the traffic around you, stay out of the fast lane?
Dr_Gene: I once knew an old bag senior citizen who intentionally drove slow in the fast/passing lane.She said it was for safety reasons: "The families of those fast drivers will thank me for ensuring they got home safely after driving at a nice, safe speed"
This text is now purple: Pocket Ninja: Yes, I would have to be a slack-jawed simpleton to believe this, a halfwit bumpkin of no relative merit or worth, but the fact of the matter is that many American are exactly those things. I mean, have you been to Maryland?So stop calling it a fast lane. Spend the extra syllable, refer to it as a passing lane. As in the following:
scottydoesntknow: TheHighlandHowler: scottydoesntknow: it should be anything slower than the posted speed limitI think VA is like this for trucks.I remember going to Houston from Dallas one summer between semesters. Two douchebag big-rigs were doing 68 (in a 70) and right next to each other, taking up both lanes.
the_sidewinder: Difficulty: There is no fast lane/Use the left lane to pass, then get the fark out of it
Jon iz teh kewl: eraser8: Lots of states have been doing similar things for years:[www.mesalek.com image 650x400]they should make the speed limit 65 and make minimum 64.68 and monitor the road with lasers
TheHighlandHowler: scottydoesntknow: it should be anything slower than the posted speed limitI think VA is like this for trucks.
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