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2013-05-09 01:33:42 PM
11 votes:

the_sidewinder: Difficulty: There is no fast lane


See, this is truly the crux of the problem, and has always been so. The issue here is that generations of Americans have, as a sort of shorthand, referred to the left lane on a highway as "the fast lane." But the problem with that is that the word "fast" is quite subjective. I might, for example, believe that since the speed limit is 55, and I am going 57, I am going "fast" and therefore have every much a right to be in the lane as anyone else. Yes, I would have to be a slack-jawed simpleton to believe this, a halfwit bumpkin of no relative merit or worth, but the fact of the matter is that many American are exactly those things. I mean, have you been to Maryland?

So stop calling it a fast lane. Spend the extra syllable, refer to it as a passing lane. As in the following:

If I am not at this moment actively engaged in the process of passing a vehicle situated on my right-hand side, I should move immediately into the right lane myself and only re-enter the left lane when it becomes again necessary to pass another vehicle. The speed of my passing is irrelevant. How fast I believe I am going is irrelevant. All that matters is the action of passing, nothing else, and then, like a salmon who has just finished spawning and will now rest and die, the act of again moving right. This until it is time to spawn again.

Think of slack-jawed simpletons, the halfwit bumpkins everywhere. The Marylanders struggling to understand difficult concepts like "signs" and "signals." Make things easier, not more complicated. Passing lane. It is more difficult to say, but think of the payoffs.
2013-05-09 01:14:11 PM
10 votes:
Difficulty: There is no fast lane

/Use the left lane to pass, then get the fark out of it
2013-05-09 01:10:19 PM
9 votes:
Fark that, it should be anything slower than the posted speed limit (barring traffic/accidents). If you're in the left lane going 56 in a 65 you're still royally farking up traffic flow.

/Hate chicken-shiat douchebags that just ride in the left lane because they don't know how to actually drive
2013-05-09 03:10:34 PM
6 votes:
Driving rant thread!

1. Don't be left of any traffic you aren't passing

2. Don't drive under the speed limit on the interstate no matter what lane you're in (barring weather or other special conditions)

3. Use your farking turn signal

4. Don't change lanes just because the person in front of you isn't passing "fast enough" for your taste

5. Don't merge without looking

6. Don't stop at a farking yield sign unless you actually have to

7. Don't ride all the way to the end of the farking onramp before you stop if you can see you're not going to be able to merge

8. 4 way stops have three simple rules: FIFO, Yield to the right, Yield on a left turn

9. If your goddamn wheels never actually stop moving at the intersection, you didn't stop and it's my farking turn

10. Don't slow down to 3 mph to make a right turn

11. Don't fark around with your phone just because the light's red, pay attention

12. Don't "wave me through" something when it's not my turn

13. You have an accelerator, use it. Don't take 30 seconds to get up to speed for no reason

14. Don't pull onto the interstate early from the ramp if you're not up to speed yet

15. Don't gawk at accidents you drooling dipshiats, I'd like to get home, not stare at blinky fire truck lights

16. AWD doesn't mean you can go 60 mph in the snow safely on your summer tires

17. Don't stomp on your gas just because the line of stopped traffic moved another 10 feet

18. The fact that you used the wrong lane for 500 feet to try and fly past a line of traffic you didn't feel like waiting in isn't my problem and I won't slow down just to let you over where you need to be.

I have no idea why people go out of their way to make driving so hard. It really isn't that difficult.
2013-05-09 02:46:03 PM
4 votes:
Any RV driver who willfully moves into the left-most (or "passing" lane) for any reason other than avoiding an accident or at the express command of an on-duty law enforcement officer shall have the driver's license suspended and revoked and the physical license itself cut into triangular pieces no smaller than one-half inch and no larger than one inch on each said and have the aforementioned pieces hammered up the driver's urethra using a rusty ball-peen hammer at a public ceremony.
2013-05-09 02:06:34 PM
4 votes:

I_Am_Weasel: I assume they once again failed to address the menace of uncanceled turn signals?


The people I want cannonized* are the people who brake and only use their turn signals once they've slowed down to 5 miles per hour.  Please, for the love of all that is good, signal your turn BEFORE applying the brake.

*cannonized: to be shot out of a cannon.  Not to be confused with canonized: to be declared a saint.
2013-05-09 01:52:56 PM
4 votes:
Lots of states have been doing similar things for years:

www.mesalek.com
2013-05-09 03:08:22 PM
3 votes:
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2013-05-09 02:11:40 PM
3 votes:
Yeah, this will be enforced.

*rolls eyes*

"Feel good" legislation.

Now excuse me, I have a call from CARD SERVICES coming in.
2013-05-09 01:40:57 PM
3 votes:
It's a good start. Now on to bicycles.

Let's pass a law acknowledging that if you can't keep up with the flow of traffic on the road you are a hazard to yourself and others, running red lights to make up the time that you spent jacking up traffic previously is not a viable solution, and you should not be allowed to endanger lives on public roadways just to satisfy your need to feel morally superior.
Pud [TotalFark]
2013-05-09 01:12:18 PM
3 votes:
I think it should be legal to do the PIT maneuver on any car pacing the car in the lane to their right. If you're going to do the same speed as the car next to you, get in front of them, get behind them, just get the hell out of MY way
2013-05-09 06:05:50 PM
2 votes:

un4gvn666: f you're complaining about people tailgating you in the left lane, get the fark out of the left lane.


That's a bit unfair. There are some real dicks who will come up and tailgate you even as you're in the midst of passing other people (and hence can't move over) because you're not passing them fast enough. Or who will come up and tailgate you for a second even though a further left lane is clear.

un4gvn666: If you have to turn left, get in the left lane with your signal on. However, if you are in the left lane and you're not passing someone on your right, get the fark out of the lane.


Also not always a fair criticism. Suppose you're coming up on a left exit in half a mile, or maybe a mile (but you're not quite sure of how far ahead it is because the signage isn't wonderful). It's totally reasonable in that circumstance to move to the left lane at that point, but it's (IMO) way too early to really have your turn signal on. This is especially true if the traffic is heavy -- in that case it can be "difficult" to change lanes, and if you have to slow down to try to get a space because you waited until you're very close to the exit and you'll soon pass it, it becomes even harder.

My philosophy is that if you're around left exits, the "keep rule" right really breaks down pretty badly.
2013-05-09 05:45:27 PM
2 votes:

Koodz: #18 is how I know you don't know what a zip merge is. You're the problem, not the solution when you move over too early.


Except zip merges are for 2 lanes that are merging. On an exit, if you have 1 exit lane, you get in the lane behind everyone else, or you should be forced to wait.
2013-05-09 03:55:34 PM
2 votes:
When are we going to get speedometers on the outside of cars, particularly placed in the back window so you can see exactly how fast the person in front of you is going?  One of my biggest annoyances while driving on the road is people who are braking heavily (for seemingly no reason, but maybe there's something in front of them causing them to stop suddenly) and you can't tell how hard they are breaking until it's almost too late.  Even if a speedometer is considered too much, how about metered brake lights that visually tell other drivers how hard the person is braking.. Brake lights on the front of the car would also help judge whether or not people are running red lights when you're trying to turn left.
2013-05-09 03:47:55 PM
2 votes:

PsyLord: CorruptDB: imfallen_angel: How about just going with a pet peeve while driving bingo.

1- slow drivers

2- drivers that have no clue on how to use their signal lights

3- drivers that believe that those lines on the ground are only for decoration and doesn't apply to them

4- similar to #3, but these drivers believe that regardless of how many lanes they are, that they are driving on all of them, swerving from one side of the road to the other back and forth, over and over again, I'm guessing after learning to drive on a racing video game.

5- getting stuck behind the asshat in the standard at a red light in a small hill, where the asshat cannot handle being able to prevent his vehicle from creeping backwards bit by bit as he has no ability with a clutch. (but will assure you of how great a driver they are)

6- cellphones, either talking or texting, they should be pulled over and kicked and such like a faulty printer.  I've see idiots holding their cells to their head while letting go of the steering wheel because they needed to make gestures while talking. Same with the ones applying make-up while driving.

7- dogs, another scenario where the driver that has the dog on their lap (or jumping all over the place) should be pulled over and beaten until their spleen comes out.

8- bumper riders... "look idiot, I'm either going at the limit or even higher (and that's the limit that I will go as I refuse to get a ticket over your dumbass), there is no way for me to let you pass right now because if I could I would as I enjoy having a buffer for the cops to go after, and if you seriously need to get to that red light 3 seconds faster so you can show your amazing braking abilities, you should go rent a racetrack and get it out of your system."

9- Drivers who refuse to merge when their lane is ending until the lines force them over.  Once they hit the end of the lane, they just start drifting into the through lane (no signal of course) and force their way in, usually slowin ...


That is a pet peeve of many people, but it's only because we're all taught manners (for the most part) and we think of it as "budging" in line.  Sure if everyone is getting over a mile before the lane ends, and some people are flying ahead of 100 cars, it can seem like a dick move, but all those people getting over early are part of the problem (of the road being backed up).  It's proven that the zipper merge is the most efficient way for traffic to merge. That means using both lanes up until the point where one lane ends...not getting over a 1/4 mile before hand.

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2013-05-09 03:22:35 PM
2 votes:
The only thing worse than the ones who don't signal are the dipshiats who drive around for miles with their farking turn signals on.

Also, quit turning into the far lane you stupid assholes.
2013-05-09 02:55:25 PM
2 votes:

eraser8: I_Am_Weasel: I assume they once again failed to address the menace of uncanceled turn signals?

The people I want cannonized* are the people who brake and only use their turn signals once they've slowed down to 5 miles per hour.  Please, for the love of all that is good, signal your turn BEFORE applying the brake.

*cannonized: to be shot out of a cannon.  Not to be confused with canonized: to be declared a saint.


Also people who wait to put on their directional until the light turns green.
2013-05-09 09:18:12 PM
1 votes:

x1v16: I am going to use this traffic thread to ask people the following question: If there are signs indicating that one of 2 lanes will be ending in 2-3 miles due to construction do you have a legal/moral obligation to merge as soon as possible if traffic is backed up in a traffic jam in the remaining lane? I personally see 2-3 miles of traffic backed up, one empty lane, and think it stupid to not use the perfectly good lane to pass everyone. In my mind one should only merge as soon as possible if traffic was moving fast enough to make last minute merging a danger. Course some people get pissed off that I'm passing them and I even had someone driving half in one lane half in the other to try to keep people like me from passing them in that lane. So, anyone know the legality of using a lane until the last minute when instant merging is not required for safety?.

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Drive to the merge point and alternate.
2013-05-09 09:11:38 PM
1 votes:
Good farking luck.  Getting the cops to pull anyone over for anything other than speeding (through a speed trap) or suspicion of DUI/DWB is nearly impossible.
2013-05-09 08:30:08 PM
1 votes:

x1v16: I am going to use this traffic thread to ask people the following question: If there are signs indicating that one of 2 lanes will be ending in 2-3 miles due to construction do you have a legal/moral obligation to merge as soon as possible if traffic is backed up in a traffic jam in the remaining lane? I personally see 2-3 miles of traffic backed up, one empty lane, and think it stupid to not use the perfectly good lane to pass everyone. In my mind one should only merge as soon as possible if traffic was moving fast enough to make last minute merging a danger. Course some people get pissed off that I'm passing them and I even had someone driving half in one lane half in the other to try to keep people like me from passing them in that lane. So, anyone know the legality of using a lane until the last minute when instant merging is not required for safety?.

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It's not only legal, it's expected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_merge

Do NOT move over early.  Those people who are pissed off at you for passing them and congratulating themselves for being in the right lane are the source of the traffic jam.
2013-05-09 07:58:28 PM
1 votes:
anyone driving faster than me is a maniac.
anyone driving slower than me is an idiot.

that is all.
2013-05-09 06:47:41 PM
1 votes:
I don't get too bent out of shape about slowpokes in the left lane.  My two peeves...folks who stop past the stop line to my left so I have to nose out into traffic to see if it's clear to make a right on red, and folks who slow down for a turn before putting their blinker on. Other than that it's usually a pleasant ride.
2013-05-09 06:38:51 PM
1 votes:

Kibbler: Here's another law I'd like, for all of you look-at-me-I'm-a-super-driver-get-out-of-my-way douchebags.

If I'm in the right lane, and I'm going 10 miles an hour over the speed limit, and the left two lanes are empty, and you come up and tailgate me, because you think you own every farking lane on the road, and you demand that I move left so that you can pass me on the right, then you're a jerk and you get a nice hefty ticket.

Here's another one.  If I move from the left lane to the middle lane to pass someone who is going at or below the speed limit, and you come up behind me 25+ miles over the limit, and again you tailgate me, because you're so farking important that the road belongs to you, again, jerk, ticket.

People who imagine themselves to be super drivers do not own the road.  They give me far more headaches than people driving below the speed limit in the left lane.  In fact, I almost never see people driving below the speed limit in the left lane.  But I have jerks tailgating me in the right lane, when I'm going over the limit, all the time.

I think what you super drivers mean is "anybody driving slower than I do in the left lane."


None of those things have ever happened.
2013-05-09 06:28:22 PM
1 votes:

Huggermugger: The only time I drive less than the speed limit us when there's congestion on the road.


Let me repeat this since you don't seem to understand the concept.

If you are in the left lane on the freeway, and you are not passing someone, you are in the wrong farking lane.  Move over biatch!

I don't care if you are going the speed limit.  You are still in the wrong farking lane.  Move over biatch.
2013-05-09 06:04:06 PM
1 votes:

cloister the stupid: The All-Powerful Atheismo: As a guy who thinks people who drive more than 5 or 10 over the speed limit are dangerous psychotics except in case of extreme emergency, This is an idea I can support.

The left lane is for people going the speed limit or slightly over.  Not for slow driving.

Current posted speed limit in Ohio is 60, so by your logic that makes anyone in Ohio going 65+ a dangerous psychotic with no regards for safety or life. In July when the speed limits are raised to 70 could you please explain to me how someone goes from being a "dangerous psychotic" to someone driving under the speed limit?

I have never understood anyone who believes speed limits have anything to do with safety but if you are right and speed limits truely are for safety Ohio is sending everyone to their death.


The people that sincerely frighten me are the ones that think laws or religion keep them from doing dangerous and harmful things. These are the people that cannot decide for themselves what is responsible, safe, or smart, they need someone else to do that for them, like traffic laws or religion or w/e the fark.
2013-05-09 06:01:29 PM
1 votes:

fredklein: So, like I said, speeding causes MORE crashes, and WORSE crashes.


Let's be honest...

More crashes happen due to more people are on the road now than just a few years ago, and more of these people are bad drivers that simply do not follow the rules correctly.

I've yet to see a single accident that was due to speed, they were all due to bad driving, mechanical problems or road conditions.

Every driver believes that they are good drivers because they haven't crashed yet.... in my life, I'd say that less than ten people I've known would truly qualify as a truly good driver.

The problem isn't speed, it's that during courses, people only learn about the "rules" and nothing about their machines, about reacting, about the fact that you're piloting a death machine (your death or others') and that you need to put that phone down and pay attention to the road and your surroundings.

Too many feel too safe in their metal shell and many believe that after spending their teenage years playing Mario Kart or Need for speed that they're the shiats behind a wheel.  And none have a clue about truly pushing their attention to the road and their surroundings.
2013-05-09 06:01:21 PM
1 votes:
Thread is TL;DR, but on the chance that it hasn't been pointed out yet, California has had a minimum speed on the freeway (all lanes) since forever. (45 when I lived there, way back in the dark days of the national 55 limit) Pretty certain I've been in other states with similar laws.

/Hero tag was missing?
2013-05-09 06:00:32 PM
1 votes:

The All-Powerful Atheismo: As a guy who thinks people who drive more than 5 or 10 over the speed limit are dangerous psychotics except in case of extreme emergency, This is an idea I can support.

The left lane is for people going the speed limit or slightly over.  Not for slow driving.


Current posted speed limit in Ohio is 60, so by your logic that makes anyone in Ohio going 65+ a dangerous psychotic with no regards for safety or life. In July when the speed limits are raised to 70 could you please explain to me how someone goes from being a "dangerous psychotic" to someone driving under the speed limit?

I have never understood anyone who believes speed limits have anything to do with safety but if you are right and speed limits truely are for safety Ohio is sending everyone to their death.
2013-05-09 05:58:52 PM
1 votes:

fredklein: un4gvn666: I'm advocating that you don't be a damn zombie and follow any rule just because the morons in D.C. or your state capitol decide it should be a law.

So, anarchist much?


Wow, skozlaw isn't kidding, you're a seriously pathetic little authoritarian troll. Congrats on pulling me for a bit, but I'm done with you.

Getting back on topic, as a Floridian, I'm sure to bring a lot of smiles to a lot of family and friend's faces when I tell them about this bill. Assholes driving slow in the left lane is the number one complaint you hear from people in this state when it comes to driving on the highways, particularly in Miami, where you can basically wash up on shore and be handed a license without much of a fuss.
2013-05-09 05:54:55 PM
1 votes:

fredklein: I mean, this is basic Drivers Ed stuff here.


Said the troll.

I know you've reeled in some other suckers but I'm not going to treat your trolling crap like it's anything but trolling crap. Just a tip for the future, go a little lighter on the derp right out of the gate and build up to it instead. Makes it too obvious.
2013-05-09 05:53:12 PM
1 votes:

Huggermugger: What most of you bullies do is not to pass, but to tailgate and cut in front and honk and flip the bird.


STRAW...

*wait for it*

MAN!

Huggermugger: As an old lady who just wants to get from point A to point B, I shouldn't have to be the target of your psychological issues.


You would have nothing to worry about if you operated your vehicle effectively. If you're complaining about people tailgating you in the left lane, get the fark out of the left lane.

Huggermugger: And by the way, I found a place to live near work so that I can drive less than 100 miles a month, but sometimes I'm forced to drive someplace, and sometimes I need to turn left, which requires being in the left lane, but that doesn't mean you have the right to rage at me and threaten me.


If you have to turn left, get in the left lane with your signal on. However, if you are in the left lane and you're not passing someone on your right, get the fark out of the lane. People should not have to be delayed because of your lack of driving knowledge and misplaced sense of entitlement.
2013-05-09 05:48:13 PM
1 votes:

fredklein: un4gvn666: fredklein: And one of those 'risks' is getting your Drivers License taken away. Then you can't drive AT ALL

You're kidding right?

When you lose your license, do they chop off your hands or something where you live?

So, your advocating for driving without a license??


I'm advocating that you don't be a damn zombie and follow any rule just because the morons in D.C. or your state capitol decide it should be a law.

There are definitely situations where I can imagine having to drive without a license. Just like I regularly speed because I acknowledge that speed limits are largely arbitrary, and meant to keep dumber people from injuring themselves or others on the road.
2013-05-09 05:47:41 PM
1 votes:

fredklein: another cultural observer: Speed is a "factor", not a "cause"

So, you wanna play word games to justify breaking the law?


Every time I pass a state trooper and I'm going 6 mph over the limit, and that trooper sees me and continues eating his donut, my speeding is justified.
2013-05-09 05:46:27 PM
1 votes:

Koodz: #18 is how I know you don't know what a zip merge is. You're the problem, not the solution when you move over too early.


I'm not talking about spots where a lane ends, I'm talking about dickheads who use the passing lane of a two-lane roadway to fly past traffic in the right lane that's approaching a turn off and then cut them off at the last minute because they want to turn right off that roadway with them. People who effectively make a right turn onto a ramp from the left turn lane because they didn't feel like following the normal flow of traffic.

But you go be smug if it makes you feel better.
2013-05-09 05:45:55 PM
1 votes:

BolloxReader: serial_crusher: I've always thought they should do graduated speed limits in 5mph increments per lane.
i.e. if posted sign says 70mph,
right lane: no minimum, max 70mph
center lane: 70 min, 75 max
left lane: 75 min, 80 max
etc

You'd probably have to work on the "slower traffic keep right" laws to be compatible with that though.  i.e. it's currently illegal to drive the speed limit in the left lane, if you're not passing anybody, but with this there's good reason to be hanging out in the left lane, so need some way to resolve the situation where a guy going faster than you approaches.  I guess it's reasonable to say that you need to change lanes and slow down to that lane's sped limit until the other guy has passed you?

Uh yeah. Run that by the state police. I'm sure they will be 100% supportive of your contention that it is illegal to go the speed limit in the left hand lane.

I've only lived in two states, but I'm pretty sure that the drivers ed I took through my high school was totally incorrect about the speed limit applying to all lanes of traffic. That state trooper who led the class was just yanking our chains.


The legality of failure to keep right has nothing to do with the speed limit.  The illegal part is that you're driving in the wrong lane.  "I can totally shoot my machine gun out the window, officer.  I was going the speed limit!"

It is illegal to be in the left lane at all if you're not passing somebody.  Specific laws vary by state, but I'm not aware of any that allow you to drive the speed limit in the left lane of an empty highway. (technically in the situation I mentioned earlier the guy in the left lane was violating the law before any speeders approached him.  It's just that when somebody's behind him wanting to pass, he's being a dick in addition to breaking the law)
2013-05-09 05:40:22 PM
1 votes:

Huggermugger: All of you speed demons who think that you should be allowed to drive at unlimited speed just like on the Autobahn ignore one major thing, which is that they have extremely restrictive laws on the behavior of drivers. In exchange for the right to drive fast, you lose the right to tailgate and intimidate and act like a bully. It appears that many of you enjoy the aggression so much that you'd rather drive like a bully than drive fast.


I bully slow drivers by passing them and then going more slowly than they are.  It's quite satisfying.  "what's wrong, old lady?  Someone going slow? Inconveniencing you? I can relate.  I guess you'll have to muster up your old lady courage and pass me."
2013-05-09 05:39:53 PM
1 votes:

skozlaw: Driving rant thread!

1. Don't be left of any traffic you aren't passing

2. Don't drive under the speed limit on the interstate no matter what lane you're in (barring weather or other special conditions)

3. Use your farking turn signal

4. Don't change lanes just because the person in front of you isn't passing "fast enough" for your taste

5. Don't merge without looking

6. Don't stop at a farking yield sign unless you actually have to

7. Don't ride all the way to the end of the farking onramp before you stop if you can see you're not going to be able to merge

8. 4 way stops have three simple rules: FIFO, Yield to the right, Yield on a left turn

9. If your goddamn wheels never actually stop moving at the intersection, you didn't stop and it's my farking turn

10. Don't slow down to 3 mph to make a right turn

11. Don't fark around with your phone just because the light's red, pay attention

12. Don't "wave me through" something when it's not my turn

13. You have an accelerator, use it. Don't take 30 seconds to get up to speed for no reason

14. Don't pull onto the interstate early from the ramp if you're not up to speed yet

15. Don't gawk at accidents you drooling dipshiats, I'd like to get home, not stare at blinky fire truck lights

16. AWD doesn't mean you can go 60 mph in the snow safely on your summer tires

17. Don't stomp on your gas just because the line of stopped traffic moved another 10 feet

18. The fact that you used the wrong lane for 500 feet to try and fly past a line of traffic you didn't feel like waiting in isn't my problem and I won't slow down just to let you over where you need to be.

I have no idea why people go out of their way to make driving so hard. It really isn't that difficult.


#18 is how I know you don't know what a zip merge is. You're the problem, not the solution when you move over too early.
2013-05-09 05:39:47 PM
1 votes:

Huggermugger: All of you speed demons who think that you should be allowed to drive at unlimited speed just like on the Autobahn ignore one major thing, which is that they have extremely restrictive laws on the behavior of drivers. In exchange for the right to drive fast, you lose the right to tailgate and intimidate and act like a bully. It appears that many of you enjoy the aggression so much that you'd rather drive like a bully than drive fast.


So are they speed demons or bullies? Nm, this is a strawman anyways, I don't really care.

If you're not good enough at driving to drive fast, leave the left lane to those who can.
2013-05-09 05:38:16 PM
1 votes:

fredklein: skozlaw: fredklein: You can't just up and say say "I think this law is wrong" and expect to be allowed to get away with breaking it.

Really? I've gotten away with it a lot more than not. One ticket in 20 years. I speed almost every day.

I think you might be full of crap.

Hope you don't live next door to someone who disagrees with the Laws against kidnapping/rape/murder...


Well...that escalated quickly!
2013-05-09 05:38:02 PM
1 votes:

fredklein: Hope you don't live next door to someone who disagrees with the Laws against kidnapping/rape/murder...


Said the troll.
2013-05-09 05:37:24 PM
1 votes:
All of you speed demons who think that you should be allowed to drive at unlimited speed just like on the Autobahn ignore one major thing, which is that they have extremely restrictive laws on the behavior of drivers. In exchange for the right to drive fast, you lose the right to tailgate and intimidate and act like a bully. It appears that many of you enjoy the aggression so much that you'd rather drive like a bully than drive fast.
2013-05-09 05:36:56 PM
1 votes:

fredklein: skozlaw: Speed is virtually never the cause of a crash.

Really?

http://www.swov.nl/rapport/Factsheets/UK/FS_Speed.pdf
The exact relation between speed and crashes depends on many factors.However, in a general
sense the relation is very clear: if on a road the driven speeds become higher, the crash rate will also
increase. The crash rate is also higher for an individual vehicle that drives at higher speed than the other traffic
on that road.
As speeds get higher, crashes also result in more serious injury, for the
driver who caused the crash as well as for the crash opponent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_collision
A number of factors contribute to the risk of collision, including vehicle design, speed of operation, road design, road environment, driver skill and/or impairment, and driver behaviour.
...
The U.S. Department of Transportation's Federal Highway Administration review research on traffic speed in 1998. The summary states:

That the evidence shows that the risk of having a crash is increased both for vehicles traveling slower than the average speed, and for those traveling above the average speed.
That the risk of being injured increases exponentially with speeds much faster than the median speed.
That the severity/lethality of a crash depends on the vehicle speed change at impact.
That there is limited evidence that suggests that lower speed limits result in lower speeds on a system wide basis.
That most crashes related to speed involve speed too fast for the conditions.

So, like I said, speeding causes MORE crashes, and WORSE crashes.


Speed is a "factor", not a "cause"
2013-05-09 04:59:29 PM
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Pud: I think it should be legal to do the PIT maneuver on any car pacing the car in the lane to their right. If you're going to do the same speed as the car next to you, get in front of them, get behind them, just get the hell out of MY way


My favorite thing when driving is when am coming up on someone and move over to pass, despite the fact that I'm on cruise control and haven't varied my speed at all, I suddenly find that the car to my right is going the same speed as me.

Or when I've just passed someone and the guy who's tailgating me cuts over to the right lane and passes me on the right because apparently they've never learned about safe following distances on either side of a car. That becomes even more awesome when other cars start doing the same thing, so now you've got several cars passing you on your right.
2013-05-09 04:49:02 PM
1 votes:

CrazyCracka420: That's another pet peeve I would see every day after work. The entrance turn lane would always be backed up very far. It was the same every single day. Not every car will get through the turn before the light turns red. The faster people are at the turn, the more cars get through. But you always have one or two assholes who take their sweet time and instead of 20 cars making it through, only 15 do. Not something to rage over, but certainly inconsiderate of them. I just think that a lot of the drivers on the road, just don't think all that much about their actions and how it affects the other drivers.


Nothing beats being stuck behind someone that sits there inching forward as slow as they can and just as they reach the intersection, they appear to wait for the light to go yellow and THEN they slam forward like a bat out of hell. And then the light is too far gone for anyone else to go through.

But then again, the number of red lights infraction I see on an ongoing bases is staggering.  The cops are asses about doing "safety week" and go for anyone going under a yellow, but in "real life" the number of red lights goers that get away (some within an inch of smashing into someone or have someone smash into them) is just amazing.
2013-05-09 04:42:26 PM
1 votes:
bschool.pepperdine.edu


We're gonna need more ticket books!
2013-05-09 04:40:32 PM
1 votes:

SevenT: OK... so confession time. I did not grow up in the US (although if I had l been born here I might not have grown up yet either, but that's another issue), but I have now lived in Florida for nearly 2 decades.

The one thing that stuck out like a sore thumb when I first arrived on US shores, and still does, is how often I can drive unobstructed in the right lane of the interstate because everyone else is either in the center or left lane. Its like they are zombies and cannot figure out that the fastest lane at that moment is the right hand one. Nope, stick in the left lane because I want to go somewhere.... fast. Or, worse yet... why the heck bother to move over no matter my speed? I like this lane and its suited me for years, so here I will stay and screw everyone else

And it seems like it doesn't matter who, but as soon as they enter the interstate, all these drivers head to the left as if it was magnetized.

There's nothing like the little old lady who says she never has problems on the Interstate. "I just drive in the left lane and there is a clear road ahead of me." Yeah lady, but did you look behind you at the line of 50 cars that you are holding up?

There has to be a cultural reason for this. Can anyone explain?


They're stupid.
2013-05-09 04:36:39 PM
1 votes:

moothemagiccow: justtray: ZeroCorpse: Wow. A lot of armchair NASCAR professionals here.

Don't let me get in the way of your posturing, fellas. We all know that every single one of you drives better than anyone else on the road, including each other.

Just stay away from me when you're driving. That's all I ask. I drive exactly the speed limit. I avoid huge clusters and packs of cars and prefer to drive between the packs... AWAY from the other drivers. The only way to be safe from other drivers is to avoid them completely.

And when you come cruising up at high speed on my left, be sure to wave, because I'll probably wave back when I catch up to you a moment later at the next light.

There's no sense in speeding. You won't get there much faster, thanks to stop signs, signals, traffic, and other factors. You might beat me to the same destination by a minute. Ooooh. I bet that minute really helped you when you were wandering around finding a close parking space while I parked in the back and walked, STILL beating you to the actual destination.

People who treat driving like its a competition are to be avoided.

That's great, and I'm happy for you and ignorance must surely be bliss to think that going faster doesn't allow you to make lights that you would otherwise hit a red at, but do be just this one solid, and don't use the left lane unless you're passing someone.

Thanks.

I don't understand why you're so pressed for time.

Leave earlier. Relax. You'll get where you need to in time. Being two or three minutes early just isn't worth it. You might even live longer.

It's like waiting for someone to leave the front row in a parking lot. Just park in the back and walk.


I guess I just have empathy for everyone on the road and think others should as well. Not everyone likes sitting in traffic for 20 minutes for what should be a 10 minute drive because people want to filter out to all lanes going the exact same speed.

It's nothing like waiting for someone to leave the front row spot. Again that is more akin to someone with your mentality. I understand saving time, whereas your mentality of "its just a few minutes" is more akin to waiting for the front parking spot. Both horrible, self-serving behaviors that you should be ashamed of.

Also;

Nutsac_Jim: ZeroCorpse: There's no sense in speeding. You won't get there much faster, thanks to stop signs, signals, traffic, and other factors. You might beat me to the same destination by a minute.

This is false.   'Speeding only gets you there a minute earlier' only applies if you are going site to site.  The extra factor is lights.  If you speed and get to a long light early enough and make it.. you make it through before the light turns red.  Chump McSpeedLimit has to wait a full cycle.  That can ad 3-4 minutes.  Do that to a couple of lights, and whammo, you are at work 10 minutes earlier.


Bingo.

stevetherobot: If you just barely make it through one light, chances are you will be caught be the next.


Wrong. I don't know where you got your education, but you should get a refund.
2013-05-09 04:27:31 PM
1 votes:

Kaenneth: There was an interesting study correlating road rage to being circumcised, apparently cut men get much more upset about people driving slow in the 'fast lane' than uncut men.

Probably due to their inability to have complete sexual satisfaction.


Nah, it's more likely that uncut men have had their brains eaten up from a chronic yeast infection and are too retarded to care by the time they are old enough to drive.
2013-05-09 04:23:01 PM
1 votes:

PJ-: Well I use Mac/Linux...: The thing that drives me farking crazy, which I see EVERY DAMN MORNING on my way to work, is when you are in a line at a stoplight that has just turned green, and people leave like 6 to 8 car lengths in between themselves and the car in front of them. That's 6 people that you just made wait an extra 2-3 minutes while the lights cycle through again.  It makes my blood farking boil when I miss a light by 1 or 2 cars, and I see people leaving enough room in front of them for a bus to fit in.

These people are easy to correct, you just slip your car in the spot that they left open.  They learn very quickly that they shouldn't be leaving that gap.  Usually the cause of people feeling they need the gap is when they have been rear ended, which caused them to hit the person in front of them.


I'm not talking about people not pulling up to the car in front of them when stopped at a red light.  I'm talking about once the light has turned green, and the car in front of them is now driving through the intersection, instead of immediately following they leave a space big enough for 6 other cars to fit into, thus farking over people at the back of the line who could have easily gotten through before the light changed again.
2013-05-09 04:19:24 PM
1 votes:

ZeroCorpse: There's no sense in speeding. You won't get there much faster, thanks to stop signs, signals, traffic, and other factors. You might beat me to the same destination by a minute.


This is false.   'Speeding only gets you there a minute earlier' only applies if you are going site to site.  The extra factor is lights.  If you speed and get to a long light early enough and make it.. you make it through before the light turns red.  Chump McSpeedLimit has to wait a full cycle.  That can ad 3-4 minutes.  Do that to a couple of lights, and whammo, you are at work 10 minutes earlier.
2013-05-09 04:15:19 PM
1 votes:

Pocket Ninja: the_sidewinder: Difficulty: There is no fast lane

See, this is truly the crux of the problem, and has always been so. The issue here is that generations of Americans have, as a sort of shorthand, referred to the left lane on a highway as "the fast lane." But the problem with that is that the word "fast" is quite subjective. I might, for example, believe that since the speed limit is 55, and I am going 57, I am going "fast" and therefore have every much a right to be in the lane as anyone else. Yes, I would have to be a slack-jawed simpleton to believe this, a halfwit bumpkin of no relative merit or worth, but the fact of the matter is that many American are exactly those things. I mean, have you been to Maryland?

So stop calling it a fast lane. Spend the extra syllable, refer to it as a passing lane. As in the following:

If I am not at this moment actively engaged in the process of passing a vehicle situated on my right-hand side, I should move immediately into the right lane myself and only re-enter the left lane when it becomes again necessary to pass another vehicle. The speed of my passing is irrelevant. How fast I believe I am going is irrelevant. All that matters is the action of passing, nothing else, and then, like a salmon who has just finished spawning and will now rest and die, the act of again moving right. This until it is time to spawn again.

Think of slack-jawed simpletons, the halfwit bumpkins everywhere. The Marylanders struggling to understand difficult concepts like "signs" and "signals." Make things easier, not more complicated. Passing lane. It is more difficult to say, but think of the payoffs.



Or you could be one of the many jerks in California who believe the car pool lane is 24/7 and feel since they have more than 2 people than can do 55 in the left lane.  Never mind the fact it is a Saturday and car pool hours are only for commute times.  MOVE THE EFF OVER.
2013-05-09 04:14:10 PM
1 votes:
you should signal your intention to move over into the turn lane.  once in the turn lane, you may turn off the signal, since being in the turn lane indicates that you intend to turn.
2013-05-09 04:11:51 PM
1 votes:
Oh, and as far as the gap in traffic goes, let me throw this out there for some of you cretins:

When I'm sitting in a long line of rush hour traffic or similar, I try and figure out about how fast the average speed of my lane is. (Good lord, that's tortured syntax.) It's usually in the ballpark of half as fast as people go if they jackrabbit until their next stop. In other words, if the guy in front of me guns it from a dead stop and can get up to 15 before he slams on the brakes, the average speed of my lane is about 7.5 MPH. I don't know whythis tends to work, but it does.

Anyway, once I've figured out the speed my lane's going, I try and cruise at that speed. This not only keeps me rolling, it also lets everyone behind me roll at that speed without constantly jamming on their brakes. Plus, it looks cool in my rear-view mirrow when there's a line of smooth-flowing traffic behind me. The downside of driving like this, though, is that there's a gap created between me and the guy in front of me when he jams on his gas. If I'm timing things right, I should be approaching his bumper the instant he's punching the gas for his next hop.

If you're the person who's been cruising behind me at a constant speed for over a half-mile, there's really no point in whipping around me and filling that gap. You gain a car-length, and you make me hit my brakes. This slows down everyone behind me, too, since they all have to now use their brakes.
2013-05-09 04:08:22 PM
1 votes:
What I love with the zipper merge is the group of assholes who think that because I'm letting the car at the head of the line in, the 3 behind him get to go to. Hence now I've started giving the first car just enough space to move in, and as soon as he starts moving I close the gap to prevent the car behind him from going too.
2013-05-09 04:07:15 PM
1 votes:
OldManDownDRoad:

Fender-huggers. Especially annoying if they get into your 7- or 5 o'clock position so they are just out of your direct line of sight. I've been known to toss the ice out of my empty drink cup onto their windshields. I've tried flicking boogers but that's not as effective.

I've often wondered if there isn't some kind of slipstream effect that takes place at highway speeds when you get close enough to someone.  Like how bicyclists in a race sit right on each others tail and alternate who's in front, so everyone else behind can take advantage and not work as hard for a bit.  It happens to me WAY too often to just be other rude drivers trying to match me.  I'm almost always driving with cruise control on, and the number of times I'm passing someone (with cruise control on) and they speed up to match my speed, or someone's passing me and slows down to my speed, seems to be way more than coincidence.
2013-05-09 04:04:21 PM
1 votes:

PsyLord: 9- Drivers who refuse to merge when their lane is ending until the lines force them over. Once they hit the end of the lane, they just start drifting into the through lane (no signal of course) and force their way in, usually slowing down (the ...

I see this all the time and it is a pet peeve. When they see people merging right in front of them, the step on the gas and floor it, zooming way to the front where now they try to barge into the only lane. Basically they just want to cut in front of all of the normal people that merge like they were suppose to.


yup, missed that one, and adding to it...

Where I drive to get home at night:

3 lanes, the left is the straight going one, the middle goes towards the off-ramp to go to a second highway, while the right is the off-ramp to get off the highway.

The middle lane is always the nasty one that gets congested, and where I get on, I need to flip to the left, and overall it's not too bad once you get in the middle one for a moment.

The "pet peeve" is that many move over to the left side (they are already in the middle lane heading where they are going anyways), and race to the end of the "line" where the off-ramp to the other highway is and then cut off everyone, and block the left lane.

Overall, these are the idiots that causes more slowdown that anything else does, and for both lanes.


CrazyCracka420: That is a pet peeve of many people, but it's only because we're all taught manners (for the most part) and we think of it as "budging" in line. Sure if everyone is getting over a mile before the lane ends, and some people are flying ahead of 100 cars, it can seem like a dick move, but all those people getting over early are part of the problem (of the road being backed up). It's proven that the zipper merge is the most efficient way for traffic to merge. That means using both lanes up until the point where one lane ends...not getting over a 1/4 mile before hand.

/themoreyouknow.jpg


Problem is, I'd agree but that's now how it's done...

if people would zipper in properly, it would be fine, but the general situation is those that aren't happy with the zipper, they MUST push forward as much as possible, merging properly goes to hell, they should get in from of anyone else.

So instead of the merging (zipper) in the last 50 feet of the end of the lane, they push to the last 2 feet and force themselves in... regardless if the person next to them is leaving space for them to merge, "they" have to get in front of that one car in front of them.
2013-05-09 04:04:09 PM
1 votes:
Here are my rules to the road.

1. Don't drive too fast when it will inconvenience ME.
2. Don't drive too fast when it will inconvenience ME.
3. No right turns when it will inconvenience ME.
4. No left turns when it will inconvenience ME.
5. No going straight when it will inconvenience ME.
6. No merging when it will inconvenience ME.
7. No staying in the same lane when it will inconvenience ME.
8. No passing when it will inconvenience ME.
9. No huge gas guzzling SUVs when it will inconvenience ME.
10. No fuel efficient small cars or hybrids when it will inconvenience ME.

In fact, if everyone would just remember to ask themselves if what they are about to do will inconvenience ME, before they do it, driving would be a lot better for everyone.
2013-05-09 03:55:20 PM
1 votes:
I usually find some speeder and then I shadow them in the lane to the right about 25-50 yards back.

That way, they are finding all the cops for me.   They intercept the ticket.  At worst, their brake lights let me know it is time to slow down.
2013-05-09 03:54:37 PM
1 votes:

serial_crusher: CrazyCracka420: It's proven that the zipper merge is the most efficient way for traffic to merge

I disagree with that "proof".  It holds up when you're in bumper to bumper rush hour traffic, but if both lanes are going a reasonable speed, it's more important to merge where there's a safe gap to fit in, instead of going all the way to the end where one or more likely both of you will have to slow down.


I was speaking more from my experience over the last couple days on 94 in Wisconsin.  Lots of construction going down to 1 lane.  Say the right lane is ending in a mile, people were stacking up in the left lane and the left lane would be completely stopped for about a half mile or so until the lane dropped, right lane is a ghost town.
2013-05-09 03:52:08 PM
1 votes:

CrazyCracka420: It's proven that the zipper merge is the most efficient way for traffic to merge


I disagree with that "proof".  It holds up when you're in bumper to bumper rush hour traffic, but if both lanes are going a reasonable speed, it's more important to merge where there's a safe gap to fit in, instead of going all the way to the end where one or more likely both of you will have to slow down.
2013-05-09 03:46:38 PM
1 votes:

ZeroCorpse: There's no sense in speeding. You won't get there much faster, thanks to stop signs, signals, traffic, and other factors. You might beat me to the same destination by a minute. Ooooh. I bet that minute really helped you when you were wandering around finding a close parking space while I parked in the back and walked, STILL beating you to the actual destination.


It's 20 miles to work for me, one way.  I work 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year (well probably more than that actually).  That's 10,000 miles.  If I drive 1mph faster average (31mph v. 30mph), I save over 10 hours on the road per year.  I save 50 hours on the road per year if I drive 5mph faster.  I'm not racing you.  I don't care how much faster you got there compared to me.  I care how much faster I got there compared to what I could have gotten there in.

I also park in the back and walk.
2013-05-09 03:45:20 PM
1 votes:
I see this is a driving pet peeve thread...then I'll add on, Wisconsin drivers are farking terrible about using their turn signals (whether lane changing or actually turning).  They're there for a reason assholes.
2013-05-09 03:45:00 PM
1 votes:

moothemagiccow:

You do know what "limit" means, right?


it means "no slower than"

No Slower Than
65

; )
2013-05-09 03:44:09 PM
1 votes:
When I'm driving I always try to find someone just sitting in the fast lane. The faster the better of course. Then I make them my wingman. I'll stay in the lane just to their right and just ahead of them. Some people try to pass me but I don't let them. You do 95, I'll do 95. Then when I see a cop (I'm in front and see them first) I throw it from 5th to 4th (I have a stck), no brake lights and they zoom passed me. Only seen three people pulled over in 25 years of doing that but that's three tickets I didn't get. If they're dumb enough to just sit in the fast lane, I'm gonna use them.

/internet tough guy driving story
2013-05-09 03:42:38 PM
1 votes:

skozlaw: Driving rant thread!


Ex-Boston cabbie gets a kick out of your list of peeves. I agree with most of them in principal but violate about half of them regularly in practice.

The safest way to drive here is to assume that everyone else is a menace to society on the road and to stay in a narrow zone between hyper-aggression and hyper-defensiveness. There is no normal. Hey,if everyone does it, you can't be surprised.
2013-05-09 03:42:12 PM
1 votes:
Legislator probably got inconvenienced.
2013-05-09 03:39:39 PM
1 votes:

ZeroCorpse: Wow. A lot of armchair NASCAR professionals here.

Don't let me get in the way of your posturing, fellas. We all know that every single one of you drives better than anyone else on the road, including each other.

Just stay away from me when you're driving. That's all I ask. I drive exactly the speed limit. I avoid huge clusters and packs of cars and prefer to drive between the packs... AWAY from the other drivers. The only way to be safe from other drivers is to avoid them completely.

And when you come cruising up at high speed on my left, be sure to wave, because I'll probably wave back when I catch up to you a moment later at the next light.

There's no sense in speeding. You won't get there much faster, thanks to stop signs, signals, traffic, and other factors. You might beat me to the same destination by a minute. Ooooh. I bet that minute really helped you when you were wandering around finding a close parking space while I parked in the back and walked, STILL beating you to the actual destination.

People who treat driving like its a competition are to be avoided.


That's great, and I'm happy for you and ignorance must surely be bliss to think that going faster doesn't allow you to make lights that you would otherwise hit a red at, but do be just this one solid, and don't use the left lane unless you're passing someone.

Thanks.
2013-05-09 03:37:10 PM
1 votes:
Only one rule needs to be implemented. If you're in the far left lane and you're not catching up to the car in front of you, GET OVER A-HOLE.

The self entitlement in this country is absurd.
PJ-
2013-05-09 03:35:24 PM
1 votes:

CorruptDB: 9- Drivers who refuse to merge when their lane is ending until the lines force them over. Once they hit the end of the lane, they just start drifting into the through lane (no signal of course) and force their way in, usually slowing down (they think the proper way to merge into 75 MPH traffic is to slow down to 45). It seems like they are thinking "Well, there's no way I could have forseen this! Well, the lines are forcing me over, nothing I can do, it's out of my hands!". These morons drive the same route every day but don't seem to remember that the lane ends, maybe they think the DOT came in overnight and extended the lane.


But on the other hand, there is nothing better than watching a lineup of 30 cars working together blocking that person from merging in.
2013-05-09 03:32:38 PM
1 votes:

Well I use Mac/Linux...: is when you are in a line at a stoplight that has just turned green, and people leave like 6 to 8 car lengths in between themselves and the car in front of them


Oh, yea, forgot about that one:

19. The car in front of you isn't going to let out a huge burrito fart. CLOSE THE DAMN GAP, ASSHOLE, YOU'RE WASTING USABLE SPACE.

And also:

20. Don't block turns to your right when traffic comes to a stop at a light, dipshiats.
2013-05-09 03:29:52 PM
1 votes:

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Yes, but your speeding, tailgating, illegal lane changes, and other aggressive driving behaviors cause wrecks too.


You know what would cut down on d-bags doing that?

Fewer idiots confusing careful driving with just driving like a slow-ass little biatch.

I don't like the maniacs either, but when you've got some asshole camped in the left lane blocking it up it's going to force those maniacs to weave into the other lanes. I'd rather first solve the problem of the idiots that block traffic up so the maniacs can just zip straight along before worrying about slowing the maniacs down.

The people blocking up lanes and causing more lane changes and speed differences are far more dangerous than the people who are just speeding. Speed alone aggravates a crash, but it rarely causes one.
2013-05-09 03:27:31 PM
1 votes:
Hero tag was made for this. In Jersey, PA, and a few other states "Keep Right, Pass Left" is the LAW, too bad it's never enforced or else you'd have no need for laws like this (that also won't be enforced.)
2013-05-09 03:24:21 PM
1 votes:

scottydoesntknow: Fark that, it should be anything slower than the posted speed limit (barring traffic/accidents). If you're in the left lane going 56 in a 65 you're still royally farking up traffic flow.

/Hate chicken-shiat douchebags that just ride in the left lane because they don't know how to actually drive


Can't do that, at some point, if you reach someone going the same speed, you need to slow down to get behind them, since we can't give you carte blanche to speed in order to pass them.

Did you hear that, assholes?  If someone is traveling roughly the same speed as you in the right hand land, you need to slow down and get the hell over.
2013-05-09 03:19:18 PM
1 votes:
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2013-05-09 03:19:07 PM
1 votes:

Albert911emt: Stupid. How about a law that forbids going slower than the speed limit in the fast lane? Or better yet, a law that says if you're going slower than the traffic around you, stay out of the fast lane?


While I love the sentiment here, the speed limit is a law.  It's the limit.  If you are going 66 in a 65 mph zone, you're breaking the law.  This is exceedingly stupid, what I see in this law is a tacit acknowledgement that yeah, everyone speeds in the left lane.  So how about we not only introduce a minimum but we raise the speed limit for the left lane then?  Because really, there's no problem if speeders kept it under the limit.

And yes, yes I speed all the time.  I always try to keep it either 9 or 14 over the limit.
PJ-
2013-05-09 03:13:22 PM
1 votes:
As it may surprise some of you here, there are actually a lot of people who don't understand the 'left is for passing' rule.  I remember I was on a road trip going to Maine with my ex-girlfriend who decided she wanted to do the driving as she has never done long distance driving before.  She was cruising along in the left lane when a guy behind us started honking and blinking his lights, and she had no idea why.  I told her to shift over to the right lane, and then explained that the left lane is for passing and the right lane is for cruising.  She looked and said 'I had no idea, why didn't you explain this to me before?'  to my response 'well I thought it was taught to everybody and also common sense.'

Yea, we argued a good chunk of the road trip and how I thought so little of her because she didn't know that un-written rule.
2013-05-09 03:10:27 PM
1 votes:
So a bunch of illiterate, red-neck, shiat-kickers think that passing even more legislation will change the way an even bigger bunch of illiterate, red-neck, shiat-kickers will drive.  That's Florida in one.
2013-05-09 03:10:16 PM
1 votes:

Dr_Gene: I once knew an old bag senior citizen who intentionally drove slow in the fast/passing lane.
She said it was for safety reasons: "The families of those fast drivers will thank me for ensuring they got home safely after driving at a nice, safe speed"


Until the frustrated driver goes home and beats his or her spouse and children mercilessly.
2013-05-09 03:08:52 PM
1 votes:
Stupid. How about a law that forbids going slower than the speed limit in the fast lane? Or better yet, a law that says if you're going slower than the traffic around you, stay out of the fast lane?
2013-05-09 03:08:50 PM
1 votes:
As a guy who thinks people who drive more than 5 or 10 over the speed limit are dangerous psychotics except in case of extreme emergency, This is an idea I can support.

The left lane is for people going the speed limit or slightly over.  Not for slow driving.
2013-05-09 03:08:49 PM
1 votes:

This text is now purple: Pocket Ninja: Yes, I would have to be a slack-jawed simpleton to believe this, a halfwit bumpkin of no relative merit or worth, but the fact of the matter is that many American are exactly those things. I mean, have you been to Maryland?

So stop calling it a fast lane. Spend the extra syllable, refer to it as a passing lane. As in the following:


In defense of Marylanders (I now feel dirty), I-95 in Maryland has entirely too many left exits and entrances, so even the term "passing lane" is only incompletely correct.

\Fixed
2013-05-09 03:08:28 PM
1 votes:
If we wanted sane Left Lane Laws, it would be completely legal to drag left lane squatters from their vehicles and beat them with sticks.

/something both Democrats and Republicans can get behind.  Republicans because Hey, Violence! and Democrats because they can draft minutae regulating the size, heft and composition of the sticks and the duration of the beating.
2013-05-09 03:02:38 PM
1 votes:

scottydoesntknow: TheHighlandHowler: scottydoesntknow: it should be anything slower than the posted speed limit

I think VA is like this for trucks.

I remember going to Houston from Dallas one summer between semesters. Two douchebag big-rigs were doing 68 (in a 70) and right next to each other, taking up both lanes.


Right...the reason for this is that driving a tractor and trailer that are close to 80,000 lb (or more depending on the state and cargo) is not like driving your Prius. If one truck in the right lane is going 68 and the one is the "passing lane" is going 69, this can go on for miles. However, the trucks are generally tracked for speed by GPS, so going 70MPH or more to pass may not be an option. Slowing down or speeding up is a trick in itself in those things and both of those take up a considerable amount of fuel. Consider they are getting maybe 4-5 MPG as it is and have hundreds more miles to go, and suddenly his unwillingness to "move" for you is not unimaginable.
2013-05-09 03:00:03 PM
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eraser8: I_Am_Weasel: I assume they once again failed to address the menace of uncanceled turn signals?

The people I want cannonized* are the people who brake and only use their turn signals once they've slowed down to 5 miles per hour.  Please, for the love of all that is good, signal your turn BEFORE applying the brake.

*cannonized: to be shot out of a cannon.  Not to be confused with canonized: to be declared a saint.


Also the guy who is already halfway into your lane before he turns the signal on for 2 blinks.  Why even bother at that point?

/ Sidetrack: I think cars should have a "straight" signal as well as the turn signals.  That way when you're at an intersection you know whether the guy is actually going straight or whether he's some idiot who's just not signaling.
2013-05-09 02:51:45 PM
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the_sidewinder: Difficulty: There is no fast lane

/Use the left lane to pass, then get the fark out of it


I dunno, Americans, I've found, are actually pretty good at this, until you add a third lane and everyone gets stupid.

/Canadian who finds most of your two-lane highways much saner than we have up here.
2013-05-09 02:37:56 PM
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Alot of anger and frustration being expressed in this thread.

When you embrace that fact that everyone else is more important than you, you won't be nearly as frustrated with driving.
2013-05-09 02:10:36 PM
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Jon iz teh kewl: eraser8: Lots of states have been doing similar things for years:

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they should make the speed limit 65 and make minimum 64.68 and monitor the road with lasers


Wait...are the lasers for measuring speed of for vaporizing offenders?
2013-05-09 01:35:36 PM
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TheHighlandHowler: scottydoesntknow: it should be anything slower than the posted speed limit

I think VA is like this for trucks.


I remember going to Houston from Dallas one summer between semesters. Two douchebag big-rigs were doing 68 (in a 70) and right next to each other, taking up both lanes. This went on for a few minutes (everyone behind honking, flashing lights, etc.) I'm right behind him and I notice he has one of those "How Am I Driving?" stickers.

I call it up, speak to the woman on the other line, tell her exactly what's happening and threaten to call Highway Patrol because they're obstructing traffic. About one minute later the douchebag in the left lane hits his brakes (slowing everyone down), and gets over into the right behind the other one.

He probably got about 40 middle fingers as everyone was passing him.
2013-05-09 01:14:55 PM
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Before everyone starts calling them heroes and lauding this new law, just remember this.

They're going to have more patrol cars out to monitor the fast lane, which means they'll be catching more people for speeding too. You're gonna get busted just like the dbag going ten under.
 
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