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2013-05-09 03:56:18 PM

eraser8: Lots of states have been doing similar things for years:

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That's racist!

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2013-05-09 03:56:37 PM

lennavan: ZeroCorpse: There's no sense in speeding. You won't get there much faster, thanks to stop signs, signals, traffic, and other factors. You might beat me to the same destination by a minute. Ooooh. I bet that minute really helped you when you were wandering around finding a close parking space while I parked in the back and walked, STILL beating you to the actual destination.

It's 20 miles to work for me, one way.  I work 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year (well probably more than that actually).  That's 10,000 miles.  If I drive 1mph faster average (31mph v. 30mph), I save over 10 hours on the road per year.  I save 50 hours on the road per year if I drive 5mph faster.  I'm not racing you.  I don't care how much faster you got there compared to me.  I care how much faster I got there compared to what I could have gotten there in.

I also park in the back and walk.


You could save 172 hours (over a WEEK) if you moved 10 miles closer to your workplace.
You could also save 277 hours (11 days) if you worked from home one day a week.
 
2013-05-09 03:57:00 PM

PJ-: Well I use Mac/Linux...: The thing that drives me farking crazy, which I see EVERY DAMN MORNING on my way to work, is when you are in a line at a stoplight that has just turned green, and people leave like 6 to 8 car lengths in between themselves and the car in front of them. That's 6 people that you just made wait an extra 2-3 minutes while the lights cycle through again.  It makes my blood farking boil when I miss a light by 1 or 2 cars, and I see people leaving enough room in front of them for a bus to fit in.

These people are easy to correct, you just slip your car in the spot that they left open.  They learn very quickly that they shouldn't be leaving that gap.  Usually the cause of people feeling they need the gap is when they have been rear ended, which caused them to hit the person in front of them.


I had someone tell me once that they left a gap at a light so they would be able to turn out and haul ass away if someone tried to car jack them.

/seriously
 
2013-05-09 03:57:32 PM
BadJazz: ZeroCorpse:
Just stay away from me when you're driving. That's all I ask. I drive exactly the speed limit. I avoid huge clusters and packs of cars and prefer to drive between the packs... AWAY from the other drivers. The only way to be safe from other drivers is to avoid them completely.

Yup, completely agree.  Which brings to mind the bastards who want to use me as their own personal cruise control and stick to me like glue, no matter how much I try to shake them. (aka Highway Buddies)  Follow me at a distance all you want and all is well, but don't keep catching up to me and then obstructing most of my rear view mirror just because you're too lazy to keep your speed in check on your own.



Fender-huggers. Especially annoying if they get into your 7- or 5 o'clock position so they are just out of your direct line of sight. I've been known to toss the ice out of my empty drink cup onto their windshields. I've tried flicking boogers but that's not as effective.
 
2013-05-09 03:57:32 PM

The_Sponge: Ugh....that's too common in Washington State.


Not as bad as in northwest Oregon.  You never want be around somebody while they are DWO.

My biggest issue with drivers in western Washington and Oregon is that they are so passive aggressive.  One of the worst behaviors is when people drive slow until a passing lane or straight stretch that allows passing in the oncoming lane comes up, and they speed up by 10-15 MPH.  If you do manage to get around them, they'll ghost you at your speed until you manage to get a few cars in between you. If you don't manage to get around them, they slow back down when the ability to pass goes away. US-2, US-30  and US-101 are the worst for that.
 
2013-05-09 03:57:46 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: As a guy who thinks people who drive more than 5 or 10 over the speed limit are dangerous psychotics except in case of extreme emergency, This is an idea I can support.

The left lane is for people going the speed limit or slightly over.  Not for slow driving.


You are the one everyone in this thread is complaining about.
 
2013-05-09 03:57:54 PM
There isnt anything wrong with the "It's the speed limit, you SOB" type of people.

Its only when they are passive aggressive and unhappy with life so they feel it is their
civic duty to be a rolling traffic light and block as many speeders as possible.
 
2013-05-09 03:57:57 PM

busy chillin': moothemagiccow: busy chillin': moothemagiccow:

You do know what "limit" means, right?

it means "no slower than"

No Slower Than
65

; )

The point, edge, or line beyond which something cannot or may not proceed.

I understand why you might be confused, since #5 is "a prescribed maximum or minimum amount, quantity, or number" and maybe you think it's the minimum. It's actually the maximum.

um, what? Confused?

I was f*cking joking.


Seems like you're confused pretty often. Maybe the bus is a better choice?
 
2013-05-09 03:58:39 PM

wyltoknow: Good. Now if we implemented some heavier driving tests for people over age 60 then we might get this state's driving out of the pits.

Yeah yeah people of all ages suck at driving, but in my entire life of being here 9/10 times a terrible driver is a shriveled old fark who probably doesn't even realize that they're driving at that very moment. They merge in front of you when they must yield, they go 20 mph in a 45 zone, they go the wrong way down the road, they don't know what. the. fark. is going on. I'd rather deal with a bunch of young assholes on crotchrockets than one fogie who mistakenly believes that they're still mentally and physically capable of driving.


I was about 2 feet from wrapping myself around a tree because some old farker didn't look. Then, after I had my holy shiat moment, I had an old lady staring at me like it was my fault I almost died.
 
2013-05-09 03:59:02 PM

tricycleracer: Dr_Gene: I once knew an old bag senior citizen who intentionally drove slow in the fast/passing lane.
She said it was for safety reasons: "The families of those fast drivers will thank me for ensuring they got home safely after driving at a nice, safe speed"

Until the frustrated driver goes home and beats his or her spouse and children mercilessly.


Dad?
 
2013-05-09 03:59:59 PM

moothemagiccow:
Seems like you're confused pretty often. Maybe the bus is a better choice?


Good stuff.

quit your day job.
 
2013-05-09 04:01:26 PM

serial_crusher: meyerkev: Right lane is for traffic, left lane is to pass. It's also occasionally used to duck out of the way of drivers coming in off the on-ramp (which is long and straight enough that you can actually merge onto the freeway "at speed"*) at which point you get back into the right lane.

I love it when I'm passing a guy on the left and there's somebody coming up the on-ramp.  "omg, omg, what do I do?  I know, I'll just cut you off instead of letting the guy on the on-ramp adjust his speed a little."


Yeah.  What I usually do when someone (or more usually someones where finding a gap is harder)

Option #1: If and only if the left lane is clear, get over.  Use my 5-10 MPH advantage to zip on past and merge back right.   It's only polite and it makes their job a little easier.  No point in creating unnecessary potential collisions.
Option #2: Play the zipper game.  Slow down a tad, back off the guy in front of me, and create a gap into which the other driver can merge into in front of me and hope that the people on the onramp are smart enough to give me a counter-gap.
Option #3: (Usually after Option #2 has failed).  Ignore the guy coming in off the on-ramp.  Everyone for himself and I have right of way and am more likely to get killed if I slow down.

/Heck, those little stoplights on the onramp are designed to put holes in traffic so that Option #2 is semi-viable in high traffic since Option #1 does terrible things to road capacity.
 
2013-05-09 04:01:44 PM

moothemagiccow: You could save 172 hours (over a WEEK) if you moved 10 miles closer to your workplace.


Yeah, you should see the housing prices 10 miles closer to my work places.  I'm willing to sacrifice 172 hours a year so I can afford a house rather than still live in a shiatty apartment for the same price.

What do I get in return for those 50 hours I lose by driving 5 mph slower?  It sure as fark isn't increased safety.

moothemagiccow: You could also save 277 hours (11 days) if you worked from home one day a week.


I cannot legally work from home.  You need permits and shiat to use some of this science stuff.  The rest, well if you can convince my boss to buy me a $200,000 microscope to use at home, I'm all for it.

Hey, I'm open to more suggestions on how to save more time on the road.  But you're not telling me to do something instead of speeding.  You're giving me ideas to use in addition to speeding.  And by the way,  5mph over the limit is not so terrible.
 
2013-05-09 04:01:49 PM

Pick: I can see being in the left lane if you are making a left turn up ahead. BUT, you don't need to get into the left lane 8 miles before your turn.

As far as bicycles go, I ride one myself, but these pompous bustards that can't decide whether they are a pedestrian or a bicyclist.....................Or bicyclists that think it's OK to run red lights, not look both ways when crossing a road or intersection, ride into oncoming traffic, weave all over the place......Welcome to Gainesville.


I had a friend on a bike get ran off the road by a bus when it didn't see him and it pulled over at one of the stops. His bike hit the curb and he busted his ass. He was in the bike lane at the time. There is a lot of stupidity to go around when it comes to moving about the UF campus area.
 
2013-05-09 04:02:05 PM

imfallen_angel: 5- getting stuck behind the asshat in the standard at a red light in a small hill, where the asshat cannot handle being able to prevent his vehicle from creeping backwards bit by bit as he has no ability with a clutch. (but will assure you of how great a driver they are)


Maybe you shouldn't tailgate people at red lights...
 
2013-05-09 04:02:25 PM

scottydoesntknow: Fark that, it should be anything slower than the posted speed limit (barring traffic/accidents). If you're in the left lane going 56 in a 65 you're still royally farking up traffic flow.

/Hate chicken-shiat douchebags that just ride in the left lane because they don't know how to actually drive


Couldn't agree more. Given the nature of the passing lane you should not be going slower than the limit.
 
2013-05-09 04:04:08 PM
It's not a fast lane it is a passing lane.
 
2013-05-09 04:04:09 PM
Here are my rules to the road.

1. Don't drive too fast when it will inconvenience ME.
2. Don't drive too fast when it will inconvenience ME.
3. No right turns when it will inconvenience ME.
4. No left turns when it will inconvenience ME.
5. No going straight when it will inconvenience ME.
6. No merging when it will inconvenience ME.
7. No staying in the same lane when it will inconvenience ME.
8. No passing when it will inconvenience ME.
9. No huge gas guzzling SUVs when it will inconvenience ME.
10. No fuel efficient small cars or hybrids when it will inconvenience ME.

In fact, if everyone would just remember to ask themselves if what they are about to do will inconvenience ME, before they do it, driving would be a lot better for everyone.
 
2013-05-09 04:04:20 PM
In defense of Marylanders (I now feel dirty), I-95 in Maryland has entirely too many left exits and entrances, so even the term "passing lane" is only incompletely correct.


Left exits on I-95 in Maryland - Maryland House, Chesapeake House, I-695 (south of city - north side interchange was changed several years ago), MD-32 (entrance only).  is that really "too many"?

as a former Marylander, get the fark out of the left lane if you aren't doing at least 80.
 
2013-05-09 04:04:21 PM

PsyLord: 9- Drivers who refuse to merge when their lane is ending until the lines force them over. Once they hit the end of the lane, they just start drifting into the through lane (no signal of course) and force their way in, usually slowing down (the ...

I see this all the time and it is a pet peeve. When they see people merging right in front of them, the step on the gas and floor it, zooming way to the front where now they try to barge into the only lane. Basically they just want to cut in front of all of the normal people that merge like they were suppose to.


yup, missed that one, and adding to it...

Where I drive to get home at night:

3 lanes, the left is the straight going one, the middle goes towards the off-ramp to go to a second highway, while the right is the off-ramp to get off the highway.

The middle lane is always the nasty one that gets congested, and where I get on, I need to flip to the left, and overall it's not too bad once you get in the middle one for a moment.

The "pet peeve" is that many move over to the left side (they are already in the middle lane heading where they are going anyways), and race to the end of the "line" where the off-ramp to the other highway is and then cut off everyone, and block the left lane.

Overall, these are the idiots that causes more slowdown that anything else does, and for both lanes.


CrazyCracka420: That is a pet peeve of many people, but it's only because we're all taught manners (for the most part) and we think of it as "budging" in line. Sure if everyone is getting over a mile before the lane ends, and some people are flying ahead of 100 cars, it can seem like a dick move, but all those people getting over early are part of the problem (of the road being backed up). It's proven that the zipper merge is the most efficient way for traffic to merge. That means using both lanes up until the point where one lane ends...not getting over a 1/4 mile before hand.

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Problem is, I'd agree but that's now how it's done...

if people would zipper in properly, it would be fine, but the general situation is those that aren't happy with the zipper, they MUST push forward as much as possible, merging properly goes to hell, they should get in from of anyone else.

So instead of the merging (zipper) in the last 50 feet of the end of the lane, they push to the last 2 feet and force themselves in... regardless if the person next to them is leaving space for them to merge, "they" have to get in front of that one car in front of them.
 
2013-05-09 04:04:32 PM

Burr: imfallen_angel: 5- getting stuck behind the asshat in the standard at a red light in a small hill, where the asshat cannot handle being able to prevent his vehicle from creeping backwards bit by bit as he has no ability with a clutch. (but will assure you of how great a driver they are)

Maybe you shouldn't tailgate people at red lights...


No shiat. Rule of thumb is being able to see their back tires and the road. Closer than that, you're an asshole.
 
2013-05-09 04:05:18 PM
Still no way to force someone in the fast lane to go faster than the speed limit when passing an 18 wheeler that is stuck constantly downshifting due to a slower truck because the law abiding speed limit only driver as very slowly and painstakingly passing them.

I generally try to go a minimum 5 over when passing one, just to get out of their way quicker.
 
2013-05-09 04:05:32 PM

scalpod: The only thing worse than the ones who don't signal are the dipshiats who drive around for miles with their farking turn signals on.

Also, quit turning into the far lane you stupid assholes.


Abilene, TX has a law against that, and it's surprisingly strictly enforced. APD will pull your ass over and write you a ticket here if they catch you trying to pull that kind of bullshiat.

On the other hand, they don't investigate robberies (unless it's a business) and I've been a victim of a hit and run while on a bicycle and they made me walk to the police station to file a report, at which point they told me to my face that they weren't going to do anything about it unless the driver called them and confessed.

Really the only thing APD does is drive around and write traffic tickets. I've never heard of them lifting a finger about any other kind of crime unless someone gets killed. Even then they half-ass it.
 
2013-05-09 04:07:08 PM

moothemagiccow: scottydoesntknow: Fark that, it should be anything slower than the posted speed limit (barring traffic/accidents). If you're in the left lane going 56 in a 65 you're still royally farking up traffic flow.

/Hate chicken-shiat douchebags that just ride in the left lane because they don't know how to actually drive

You do know what "limit" means, right?


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2013-05-09 04:07:15 PM
OldManDownDRoad:

Fender-huggers. Especially annoying if they get into your 7- or 5 o'clock position so they are just out of your direct line of sight. I've been known to toss the ice out of my empty drink cup onto their windshields. I've tried flicking boogers but that's not as effective.

I've often wondered if there isn't some kind of slipstream effect that takes place at highway speeds when you get close enough to someone.  Like how bicyclists in a race sit right on each others tail and alternate who's in front, so everyone else behind can take advantage and not work as hard for a bit.  It happens to me WAY too often to just be other rude drivers trying to match me.  I'm almost always driving with cruise control on, and the number of times I'm passing someone (with cruise control on) and they speed up to match my speed, or someone's passing me and slows down to my speed, seems to be way more than coincidence.
 
2013-05-09 04:08:22 PM
What I love with the zipper merge is the group of assholes who think that because I'm letting the car at the head of the line in, the 3 behind him get to go to. Hence now I've started giving the first car just enough space to move in, and as soon as he starts moving I close the gap to prevent the car behind him from going too.
 
2013-05-09 04:09:30 PM

Burr: imfallen_angel: 5- getting stuck behind the asshat in the standard at a red light in a small hill, where the asshat cannot handle being able to prevent his vehicle from creeping backwards bit by bit as he has no ability with a clutch. (but will assure you of how great a driver they are)

Maybe you shouldn't tailgate people at red lights...


no tailgating needed... when you're a good 4-5 feet behind them and still they manage tp creep closer and closer until they're inches away... it's enough to get worried..

As I stated, I don't drive planning to damage someone else's car (nor do I consider it normal), and nobody should plan to do the same.

I'm guess you're a standard driver... and you're probably a great one too (like they all claim to be)
 
2013-05-09 04:10:59 PM

ayrlander: OldManDownDRoad:

Fender-huggers. Especially annoying if they get into your 7- or 5 o'clock position so they are just out of your direct line of sight. I've been known to toss the ice out of my empty drink cup onto their windshields. I've tried flicking boogers but that's not as effective.

I've often wondered if there isn't some kind of slipstream effect that takes place at highway speeds when you get close enough to someone.  Like how bicyclists in a race sit right on each others tail and alternate who's in front, so everyone else behind can take advantage and not work as hard for a bit.  It happens to me WAY too often to just be other rude drivers trying to match me.  I'm almost always driving with cruise control on, and the number of times I'm passing someone (with cruise control on) and they speed up to match my speed, or someone's passing me and slows down to my speed, seems to be way more than coincidence.


Mythbusters did a test on whether following behind an 18-wheeler would increase your MPG. Turns out it's true and the closer you get the better mileage you can get. Of course it also becomes more and more dangerous and by the end they said it wasn't worth it (even though it was a pretty large difference). I think they were like 3 feet behind a big-rig and were getting something like 50-70% better mileage.
 
2013-05-09 04:11:18 PM

ayrlander: OldManDownDRoad:

Fender-huggers. Especially annoying if they get into your 7- or 5 o'clock position so they are just out of your direct line of sight. I've been known to toss the ice out of my empty drink cup onto their windshields. I've tried flicking boogers but that's not as effective.

I've often wondered if there isn't some kind of slipstream effect that takes place at highway speeds when you get close enough to someone.  Like how bicyclists in a race sit right on each others tail and alternate who's in front, so everyone else behind can take advantage and not work as hard for a bit.  It happens to me WAY too often to just be other rude drivers trying to match me.  I'm almost always driving with cruise control on, and the number of times I'm passing someone (with cruise control on) and they speed up to match my speed, or someone's passing me and slows down to my speed, seems to be way more than coincidence.


There is a slip stream effect. It's called, in car racing parlance, drafting. You radically decrease your gas consumption when drafting behind a large semi, for instance. But you're a pacecar if you do that because you're asking to rear-end a semi while going 80 mph.
 
2013-05-09 04:11:51 PM
Oh, and as far as the gap in traffic goes, let me throw this out there for some of you cretins:

When I'm sitting in a long line of rush hour traffic or similar, I try and figure out about how fast the average speed of my lane is. (Good lord, that's tortured syntax.) It's usually in the ballpark of half as fast as people go if they jackrabbit until their next stop. In other words, if the guy in front of me guns it from a dead stop and can get up to 15 before he slams on the brakes, the average speed of my lane is about 7.5 MPH. I don't know whythis tends to work, but it does.

Anyway, once I've figured out the speed my lane's going, I try and cruise at that speed. This not only keeps me rolling, it also lets everyone behind me roll at that speed without constantly jamming on their brakes. Plus, it looks cool in my rear-view mirrow when there's a line of smooth-flowing traffic behind me. The downside of driving like this, though, is that there's a gap created between me and the guy in front of me when he jams on his gas. If I'm timing things right, I should be approaching his bumper the instant he's punching the gas for his next hop.

If you're the person who's been cruising behind me at a constant speed for over a half-mile, there's really no point in whipping around me and filling that gap. You gain a car-length, and you make me hit my brakes. This slows down everyone behind me, too, since they all have to now use their brakes.
 
2013-05-09 04:12:51 PM

Kaenneth: There was an interesting study correlating road rage to being circumcised, apparently cut men get much more upset about people driving slow in the 'fast lane' than uncut men.

Probably due to their inability to have complete sexual satisfaction.


They are also bad tippers and were breast fed.
 
2013-05-09 04:13:02 PM
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Tried to make an image out of it.  I hate on cloverleaf interchanges when I'm the guy in yellow (entering the freeway) and the guy in red (exiting the freeway) jumps over the solid white line of my exit ramp.  So you're basically running straight into the side of their car if you were to run into them.  Gives you absolutely no ability to merge one into the other, after seeing that the first time, I always make sure nobodies pulling that shiat when I encounter these.  (Probably just jinxed myself and will die in a fiery accident to one of these people).
 
2013-05-09 04:14:10 PM
you should signal your intention to move over into the turn lane.  once in the turn lane, you may turn off the signal, since being in the turn lane indicates that you intend to turn.
 
2013-05-09 04:14:15 PM

Diogenes: Alot of anger and frustration being expressed in this thread.

When you embrace that fact that everyone else is more important than you, you won't be nearly as frustrated with driving.


I sarcastically yell "I'M IMPORTANT" when d-bags go by on the cell phone after doing something tremendously stupid.
 
2013-05-09 04:15:19 PM

Pocket Ninja: the_sidewinder: Difficulty: There is no fast lane

See, this is truly the crux of the problem, and has always been so. The issue here is that generations of Americans have, as a sort of shorthand, referred to the left lane on a highway as "the fast lane." But the problem with that is that the word "fast" is quite subjective. I might, for example, believe that since the speed limit is 55, and I am going 57, I am going "fast" and therefore have every much a right to be in the lane as anyone else. Yes, I would have to be a slack-jawed simpleton to believe this, a halfwit bumpkin of no relative merit or worth, but the fact of the matter is that many American are exactly those things. I mean, have you been to Maryland?

So stop calling it a fast lane. Spend the extra syllable, refer to it as a passing lane. As in the following:

If I am not at this moment actively engaged in the process of passing a vehicle situated on my right-hand side, I should move immediately into the right lane myself and only re-enter the left lane when it becomes again necessary to pass another vehicle. The speed of my passing is irrelevant. How fast I believe I am going is irrelevant. All that matters is the action of passing, nothing else, and then, like a salmon who has just finished spawning and will now rest and die, the act of again moving right. This until it is time to spawn again.

Think of slack-jawed simpletons, the halfwit bumpkins everywhere. The Marylanders struggling to understand difficult concepts like "signs" and "signals." Make things easier, not more complicated. Passing lane. It is more difficult to say, but think of the payoffs.



Or you could be one of the many jerks in California who believe the car pool lane is 24/7 and feel since they have more than 2 people than can do 55 in the left lane.  Never mind the fact it is a Saturday and car pool hours are only for commute times.  MOVE THE EFF OVER.
 
2013-05-09 04:18:59 PM

Gonz: Oh, and as far as the gap in traffic goes, let me throw this out there for some of you cretins:

When I'm sitting in a long line of rush hour traffic or similar, I try and figure out about how fast the average speed of my lane is. (Good lord, that's tortured syntax.) It's usually in the ballpark of half as fast as people go if they jackrabbit until their next stop. In other words, if the guy in front of me guns it from a dead stop and can get up to 15 before he slams on the brakes, the average speed of my lane is about 7.5 MPH. I don't know whythis tends to work, but it does.

Anyway, once I've figured out the speed my lane's going, I try and cruise at that speed. This not only keeps me rolling, it also lets everyone behind me roll at that speed without constantly jamming on their brakes. Plus, it looks cool in my rear-view mirrow when there's a line of smooth-flowing traffic behind me. The downside of driving like this, though, is that there's a gap created between me and the guy in front of me when he jams on his gas. If I'm timing things right, I should be approaching his bumper the instant he's punching the gas for his next hop.

If you're the person who's been cruising behind me at a constant speed for over a half-mile, there's really no point in whipping around me and filling that gap. You gain a car-length, and you make me hit my brakes. This slows down everyone behind me, too, since they all have to now use their brakes.


Yeah.  Problem is after one guy gets away with that, others will start it up, and you'll ultimately be the problem (because you'll be the one going slower than everybody else in the left lane at that point.
 
2013-05-09 04:19:24 PM

ZeroCorpse: There's no sense in speeding. You won't get there much faster, thanks to stop signs, signals, traffic, and other factors. You might beat me to the same destination by a minute.


This is false.   'Speeding only gets you there a minute earlier' only applies if you are going site to site.  The extra factor is lights.  If you speed and get to a long light early enough and make it.. you make it through before the light turns red.  Chump McSpeedLimit has to wait a full cycle.  That can ad 3-4 minutes.  Do that to a couple of lights, and whammo, you are at work 10 minutes earlier.
 
2013-05-09 04:22:37 PM

bruegel: Or you could be one of the many jerks in California who believe the car pool lane is 24/7 and feel since they have more than 2 people than can do 55 in the left lane.  Never mind the fact it is a Saturday and car pool hours are only for commute times.  MOVE THE EFF OVER.


Even funnier is the "Carpool aversion syndrome" a lot of people have whereby they will never, ever go into the carpool lane even when it's 3 AM on a Sunday and the carpool lane isn't active.  

What's really really funny is being from another state that doesn't have carpool, actually reading the sign, being the only person on the road who realizes that "Wait, it is Saturday, so this isn't carpool", and zipping along 10-15 MPH faster than the moderately congested weekend traffic.  (More valid in Seattle than CA)
 
2013-05-09 04:22:50 PM

Nutsac_Jim: ZeroCorpse: There's no sense in speeding. You won't get there much faster, thanks to stop signs, signals, traffic, and other factors. You might beat me to the same destination by a minute.

This is false.   'Speeding only gets you there a minute earlier' only applies if you are going site to site.  The extra factor is lights.  If you speed and get to a long light early enough and make it.. you make it through before the light turns red.  Chump McSpeedLimit has to wait a full cycle.  That can ad 3-4 minutes.  Do that to a couple of lights, and whammo, you are at work 10 minutes earlier.


If you just barely make it through one light, chances are you will be caught be the next.
 
2013-05-09 04:22:58 PM
What we need is a series of switches - great wall structures on a pivot, that when a vehicle is detected going slower than the average of speed used in that lane during the past two hours - the wall will pivot to obstruct the offending vehicle, and soundly flip that sonofabiatch into the next lane on the right.

I figure you'd only go slow in the far left lane once in your life.
 
2013-05-09 04:23:01 PM

PJ-: Well I use Mac/Linux...: The thing that drives me farking crazy, which I see EVERY DAMN MORNING on my way to work, is when you are in a line at a stoplight that has just turned green, and people leave like 6 to 8 car lengths in between themselves and the car in front of them. That's 6 people that you just made wait an extra 2-3 minutes while the lights cycle through again.  It makes my blood farking boil when I miss a light by 1 or 2 cars, and I see people leaving enough room in front of them for a bus to fit in.

These people are easy to correct, you just slip your car in the spot that they left open.  They learn very quickly that they shouldn't be leaving that gap.  Usually the cause of people feeling they need the gap is when they have been rear ended, which caused them to hit the person in front of them.


I'm not talking about people not pulling up to the car in front of them when stopped at a red light.  I'm talking about once the light has turned green, and the car in front of them is now driving through the intersection, instead of immediately following they leave a space big enough for 6 other cars to fit into, thus farking over people at the back of the line who could have easily gotten through before the light changed again.
 
2013-05-09 04:23:57 PM

Calmamity: It's a good start. Now on to bicycles.

Let's pass a law acknowledging that if you can't keep up with the flow of traffic on the road you are a hazard to yourself and others, running red lights to make up the time that you spent jacking up traffic previously is not a viable solution, and you should not be allowed to endanger lives on public roadways just to satisfy your need to feel morally superior.


The only time a cyclist can be anywhere but on the right is turning left, staying out of the right turn lane and avoiding crap in the far right lane.  Otherwise it is considered obstruction of traffic.

Not going to disagree that the current road designs aren't very good when combining both.
 
2013-05-09 04:24:01 PM

OldManDownDRoad: BadJazz: ZeroCorpse:
Just stay away from me when you're driving. That's all I ask. I drive exactly the speed limit. I avoid huge clusters and packs of cars and prefer to drive between the packs... AWAY from the other drivers. The only way to be safe from other drivers is to avoid them completely.

Yup, completely agree.  Which brings to mind the bastards who want to use me as their own personal cruise control and stick to me like glue, no matter how much I try to shake them. (aka Highway Buddies)  Follow me at a distance all you want and all is well, but don't keep catching up to me and then obstructing most of my rear view mirror just because you're too lazy to keep your speed in check on your own.


Fender-huggers. Especially annoying if they get into your 7- or 5 o'clock position so they are just out of your direct line of sight. I've been known to toss the ice out of my empty drink cup onto their windshields. I've tried flicking boogers but that's not as effective.


I just might re-aim my windshield sprayers.
 
2013-05-09 04:24:59 PM
All you people who think the left lane is just for passing must live in rural areas where there is little to no chance of seeing another car as your drive the 70 miles to a populated area and therefore your job.

Those of us who live in or near cities know there is no such thing as a passing lane. There are 3 or 4 lanes in each direction and they're all packed all the time, day or night.
 
2013-05-09 04:27:31 PM

Kaenneth: There was an interesting study correlating road rage to being circumcised, apparently cut men get much more upset about people driving slow in the 'fast lane' than uncut men.

Probably due to their inability to have complete sexual satisfaction.


Nah, it's more likely that uncut men have had their brains eaten up from a chronic yeast infection and are too retarded to care by the time they are old enough to drive.
 
2013-05-09 04:27:32 PM

Gonz: Anyway, once I've figured out the speed my lane's going, I try and cruise at that speed. This not only keeps me rolling, it also lets everyone behind me roll at that speed without constantly jamming on their brakes. Plus, it looks cool in my rear-view mirrow when there's a line of smooth-flowing traffic behind me. The downside of driving like this, though, is that there's a gap created between me and the guy in front of me when he jams on his gas. If I'm timing things right, I should be approaching his bumper the instant he's punching the gas for his next hop.


This was a popular problem to tackle with computer simulations while I was in school.  Traffic jams are largely caused by the standing wave effect.  Basically, if the capacity of the roadway is sufficient (where sufficient is kind of complicated to define), it really only takes one person per traffic jam to "reset" the wave and allow traffic to proceed.  However, it only takes a slight tap of the brakes for the wave to start up again.
 
2013-05-09 04:29:03 PM

serial_crusher: eraser8: I_Am_Weasel: I assume they once again failed to address the menace of uncanceled turn signals?

The people I want cannonized* are the people who brake and only use their turn signals once they've slowed down to 5 miles per hour.  Please, for the love of all that is good, signal your turn BEFORE applying the brake.

*cannonized: to be shot out of a cannon.  Not to be confused with canonized: to be declared a saint.

Also the guy who is already halfway into your lane before he turns the signal on for 2 blinks.  Why even bother at that point?

/ Sidetrack: I think cars should have a "straight" signal as well as the turn signals.  That way when you're at an intersection you know whether the guy is actually going straight or whether he's some idiot who's just not signaling.


I dunno, sometimes the two-blink has a purpose. I moved from Missouri (chill, inattentive drivers) to New Jersey (enraged, aware drivers). In Missouri, the signal was a request... you flip it on and the person lets you in after they notice it. In New Jersey it was a warning... back the fark up cuz I'm moving over into that fleeting open space. If you didn't move immediately following the signal, they seemed to sense your weakness and close the gap.

\I was amazed at the cultural driving differences in MO and NJ
\\I think this is why driving in DC sucks so hard... the highest transplant rate city, so everybody drives belligerently according to their own culture and hates everyone else.
 
2013-05-09 04:29:12 PM
I get really irritated at people who use cruise control and expect me to maintain a constant speed.  I try to go about 7 over, but generally I range between 3 under and 10 over.  These cruise control folks always try to pass me, and that pisses me off because I want to go 7 over and the cruiser is probably wanting to go 6 over, so I'll speed up to prevent their passing me.  They get really mad but I don't care.
 
2013-05-09 04:30:39 PM
Driving pet peeve threads, probably the only time you'll see me agreeing with lennavan,,,So many pet peeves listed here that I agree with...my wife thinks a lot like some of the people here who think we're "racing" or like it's a competition.

I have a speed that I'm trying to go, it has nothing to do with how early or late I am, it has nothing to do with how fast or slow the other people are going.  If I'm trying to go 70 and I can go around someone who is not going as fast as me, I will.  If I have my cruise on and the person in front of me is fluxuating in speed by 10 mph, I will fly around them.  If there's a semi (or row of semi's) in the right lane, I will speed up considerably to go around them.  It has nothing to do with being aggressive, or racing, or being a bad driver, I'm taking control of my actions and there's reasons for it.  it's okay if you want to drive slower than me, but once you've passed the car next to you, move back over into the right lane. 

Too many people in this thread (and all these driving threads) think they are the speed limit enforcers.
 
2013-05-09 04:34:57 PM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: PJ-: Well I use Mac/Linux...: The thing that drives me farking crazy, which I see EVERY DAMN MORNING on my way to work, is when you are in a line at a stoplight that has just turned green, and people leave like 6 to 8 car lengths in between themselves and the car in front of them. That's 6 people that you just made wait an extra 2-3 minutes while the lights cycle through again.  It makes my blood farking boil when I miss a light by 1 or 2 cars, and I see people leaving enough room in front of them for a bus to fit in.

These people are easy to correct, you just slip your car in the spot that they left open.  They learn very quickly that they shouldn't be leaving that gap.  Usually the cause of people feeling they need the gap is when they have been rear ended, which caused them to hit the person in front of them.

I'm not talking about people not pulling up to the car in front of them when stopped at a red light.  I'm talking about once the light has turned green, and the car in front of them is now driving through the intersection, instead of immediately following they leave a space big enough for 6 other cars to fit into, thus farking over people at the back of the line who could have easily gotten through before the light changed again.


That's another pet peeve I would see every day after work.  The entrance turn lane would always be backed up very far.  It was the same every single day.  Not every car will get through the turn before the light turns red. The faster people are at the turn, the more cars get through.  But you always have one or two assholes who take their sweet time and instead of 20 cars making it through, only 15 do.  Not something to rage over, but certainly inconsiderate of them.  I just think that a lot of the drivers on the road, just don't think all that much about their actions and how it affects the other drivers.
 
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