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2013-05-09 03:08:50 PM  
As a guy who thinks people who drive more than 5 or 10 over the speed limit are dangerous psychotics except in case of extreme emergency, This is an idea I can support.

The left lane is for people going the speed limit or slightly over.  Not for slow driving.
 
2013-05-09 03:08:52 PM  
Stupid. How about a law that forbids going slower than the speed limit in the fast lane? Or better yet, a law that says if you're going slower than the traffic around you, stay out of the fast lane?
 
2013-05-09 03:09:11 PM  

okamsrazor: and suddenly his unwillingness to "move" for you is not unimaginable.


Oh. Then stay in the right lane(s, if there's more than one). If "A" is "appropriate number of lanes for trucks to use" and "n" is "number of lanes on the road", then:
A = n - 1

// and that 1 is the left-most lane
// equation not valid for n < 1
 
2013-05-09 03:10:16 PM  

Dr_Gene: I once knew an old bag senior citizen who intentionally drove slow in the fast/passing lane.
She said it was for safety reasons: "The families of those fast drivers will thank me for ensuring they got home safely after driving at a nice, safe speed"


Until the frustrated driver goes home and beats his or her spouse and children mercilessly.
 
2013-05-09 03:10:27 PM  
So a bunch of illiterate, red-neck, shiat-kickers think that passing even more legislation will change the way an even bigger bunch of illiterate, red-neck, shiat-kickers will drive.  That's Florida in one.
 
2013-05-09 03:10:34 PM  
Driving rant thread!

1. Don't be left of any traffic you aren't passing

2. Don't drive under the speed limit on the interstate no matter what lane you're in (barring weather or other special conditions)

3. Use your farking turn signal

4. Don't change lanes just because the person in front of you isn't passing "fast enough" for your taste

5. Don't merge without looking

6. Don't stop at a farking yield sign unless you actually have to

7. Don't ride all the way to the end of the farking onramp before you stop if you can see you're not going to be able to merge

8. 4 way stops have three simple rules: FIFO, Yield to the right, Yield on a left turn

9. If your goddamn wheels never actually stop moving at the intersection, you didn't stop and it's my farking turn

10. Don't slow down to 3 mph to make a right turn

11. Don't fark around with your phone just because the light's red, pay attention

12. Don't "wave me through" something when it's not my turn

13. You have an accelerator, use it. Don't take 30 seconds to get up to speed for no reason

14. Don't pull onto the interstate early from the ramp if you're not up to speed yet

15. Don't gawk at accidents you drooling dipshiats, I'd like to get home, not stare at blinky fire truck lights

16. AWD doesn't mean you can go 60 mph in the snow safely on your summer tires

17. Don't stomp on your gas just because the line of stopped traffic moved another 10 feet

18. The fact that you used the wrong lane for 500 feet to try and fly past a line of traffic you didn't feel like waiting in isn't my problem and I won't slow down just to let you over where you need to be.

I have no idea why people go out of their way to make driving so hard. It really isn't that difficult.
 
2013-05-09 03:10:50 PM  

ruetheday69: TheHighlandHowler: scottydoesntknow: big-rigs were doing 68 (in a 70) and right next to each other, taking up both lanes.

IIRC, a few years back VA used to have a 55 limit for trucks and a 65 for cars.  This resulted in what I used to call "the sixty mile per hour truck races," and miles of back-up traffic.

The I-5 in Southern Oregon is particularly evil for this. There is a 65/55 rule there and the place is very hilly, two lanes, and results in ridiculous truck road hogging where the truck drivers think they can pass a "slower" truck but end up losing a shiat ton of speed on the uphill slope. GAH.


I've always advocated roof-mounted rocket launchers for situations like that.
 
2013-05-09 03:12:42 PM  

skozlaw: 16. AWD doesn't mean you can go 60 mph in the snow safely on your summer tires


Lot of 20-somethings in WRXs in your area?
 
PJ-
2013-05-09 03:13:22 PM  
As it may surprise some of you here, there are actually a lot of people who don't understand the 'left is for passing' rule.  I remember I was on a road trip going to Maine with my ex-girlfriend who decided she wanted to do the driving as she has never done long distance driving before.  She was cruising along in the left lane when a guy behind us started honking and blinking his lights, and she had no idea why.  I told her to shift over to the right lane, and then explained that the left lane is for passing and the right lane is for cruising.  She looked and said 'I had no idea, why didn't you explain this to me before?'  to my response 'well I thought it was taught to everybody and also common sense.'

Yea, we argued a good chunk of the road trip and how I thought so little of her because she didn't know that un-written rule.
 
2013-05-09 03:13:28 PM  
The Dad of a HS buddy was teaching him to drive. Told him, among other things, not to put the turn signal on until he was INTO the turn.... didn't want to wear out the bulb prematurely,
 
2013-05-09 03:14:03 PM  

eraser8: Jon iz teh kewl: eraser8: Lots of states have been doing similar things for years:

[www.mesalek.com image 650x400]

they should make the speed limit 65 and make minimum 64.68 and monitor the road with lasers

Wait...are the lasers for measuring speed of for vaporizing offenders?


the lasers notify the planes

www.alienspouse.com
 
2013-05-09 03:14:08 PM  
THAT will be enforced. Totally. No foolies. For reals.
 
2013-05-09 03:14:20 PM  
Conditions permitting, it should be illegal to drive 10 below ANY speed limit. It's a hazard, both because it can cause accidents and can lead to road rage when I start RAMMING THAT F*&KING CAR WHO WON'T GET THE F*&K OUT OF MY WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY. *middle fingers raised*
 
2013-05-09 03:15:57 PM  
How does this affect the move over law, which requires an open lane near the safety issue and traffic slowed to 20 mph below posted speed limit?
 
2013-05-09 03:16:27 PM  

Scruffinator: Cyno01: eraser8: I_Am_Weasel: I assume they once again failed to address the menace of uncanceled turn signals?

The people I want cannonized* are the people who brake and only use their turn signals once they've slowed down to 5 miles per hour.  Please, for the love of all that is good, signal your turn BEFORE applying the brake.

*cannonized: to be shot out of a cannon.  Not to be confused with canonized: to be declared a saint.

Also people who wait to put on their directional until the light turns green.

But that clicking sound is the  worst sound in the world!


When I'm holding my coffee and my cell phone while driving with my knees, it's hard to use the turn signal.  Traffic laws are for other people, anyway.
 
2013-05-09 03:17:17 PM  

eraser8: Lots of states have been doing similar things for years:

[www.mesalek.com image 650x400]


Yeah, I think it's "impeding traffic slow" or something similar.
/I've never seen it enforced.  Especially on I81 in Virginia,
 
2013-05-09 03:17:49 PM  
Lotsa butthurt considering you ostensibly "won" here.
 
2013-05-09 03:18:25 PM  
Oh, also - cabbies who break driving laws should be fined double.

// I'd say triple, but I also want the fine to include loss of an appendage
 
2013-05-09 03:18:38 PM  
 
2013-05-09 03:19:00 PM  
How about just going with a pet peeve while driving bingo.

1- slow drivers

2- drivers that have no clue on how to use their signal lights

3- drivers that believe that those lines on the ground are only for decoration and doesn't apply to them

4- similar to #3, but these drivers believe that regardless of how many lanes they are, that they are driving on all of them, swerving from one side of the road to the other back and forth, over and over again, I'm guessing after learning to drive on a racing video game.

5- getting stuck behind the asshat in the standard at a red light in a small hill, where the asshat cannot handle being able to prevent his vehicle from creeping backwards bit by bit as he has no ability with a clutch. (but will assure you of how great a driver they are)

6- cellphones, either talking or texting, they should be pulled over and kicked and such like a faulty printer.  I've see idiots holding their cells to their head while letting go of the steering wheel because they needed to make gestures while talking. Same with the ones applying make-up while driving.

7- dogs, another scenario where the driver that has the dog on their lap (or jumping all over the place) should be pulled over and beaten until their spleen comes out.

8- bumper riders... "look idiot, I'm either going at the limit or even higher (and that's the limit that I will go as I refuse to get a ticket over your dumbass), there is no way for me to let you pass right now because if I could I would as I enjoy having a buffer for the cops to go after, and if you seriously need to get to that red light 3 seconds faster so you can show your amazing braking abilities, you should go rent a racetrack and get it out of your system."
 
2013-05-09 03:19:07 PM  

Albert911emt: Stupid. How about a law that forbids going slower than the speed limit in the fast lane? Or better yet, a law that says if you're going slower than the traffic around you, stay out of the fast lane?


While I love the sentiment here, the speed limit is a law.  It's the limit.  If you are going 66 in a 65 mph zone, you're breaking the law.  This is exceedingly stupid, what I see in this law is a tacit acknowledgement that yeah, everyone speeds in the left lane.  So how about we not only introduce a minimum but we raise the speed limit for the left lane then?  Because really, there's no problem if speeders kept it under the limit.

And yes, yes I speed all the time.  I always try to keep it either 9 or 14 over the limit.
 
2013-05-09 03:19:18 PM  
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2013-05-09 03:19:32 PM  

tricycleracer: Lot of 20-somethings in WRXs in your area?


40-something women in XC90s.... Volvo + blonde woman with children = unstable lunatic.
 
2013-05-09 03:21:16 PM  
FTA:If Gov. Scott signs the legislation into law, drivers would face a $60 fine for driving 10 mph or more under the posted speed limit in the left lane.
The law would apply to any road or highway with two or more lanes.

Two lanes?  I'm assuming they mean two lanes going in the same direction.
 
2013-05-09 03:22:35 PM  
The only thing worse than the ones who don't signal are the dipshiats who drive around for miles with their farking turn signals on.

Also, quit turning into the far lane you stupid assholes.
 
2013-05-09 03:22:53 PM  

skozlaw: 8. 4 way stops have three simple rules: FIFO, Yield to the right, Yield on a left turn


Farking this.  I'm always amazed by how complicated drivers' handbooks (and that goddamn online defensive driving class I have to take to get out of my annual speeding ticket) try to make it seem.  They'll give you paragraphs and paragraphs that really just boil down to that.
Really, 4-way stops are not a special case at all.  All stop signs have 4 simple rules:  guy without a stop sign gets to go, then the 3 you mentioned
 
2013-05-09 03:23:15 PM  
They didn't care they were just dying to get off.
 
2013-05-09 03:23:31 PM  

Calmamity: It's a good start. Now on to bicycles.

Let's pass a law acknowledging that if you can't keep up with the flow of traffic on the road you are a hazard to yourself and others, running red lights to make up the time that you spent jacking up traffic previously is not a viable solution, and you should not be allowed to endanger lives on public roadways just to satisfy your need to feel morally superior.


Or you could blow me. Either way.
 
2013-05-09 03:23:49 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: what about trikes

[img3.etsystatic.com image 800x786]


I didn't realize that Ernie was so hippy.
 
2013-05-09 03:23:52 PM  
Good.  Now maybe they'll start doing something about:

1.  People standing still on the left side of the escalator, and
2.  People in the "12 Items or Less" checkout lane with anything more than 12 items to pay for.
 
2013-05-09 03:24:21 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Fark that, it should be anything slower than the posted speed limit (barring traffic/accidents). If you're in the left lane going 56 in a 65 you're still royally farking up traffic flow.

/Hate chicken-shiat douchebags that just ride in the left lane because they don't know how to actually drive


Can't do that, at some point, if you reach someone going the same speed, you need to slow down to get behind them, since we can't give you carte blanche to speed in order to pass them.

Did you hear that, assholes?  If someone is traveling roughly the same speed as you in the right hand land, you need to slow down and get the hell over.
 
PJ-
2013-05-09 03:24:40 PM  

imfallen_angel: How about just going with a pet peeve while driving bingo.

1- slow drivers

2- drivers that have no clue on how to use their signal lights

3- drivers that believe that those lines on the ground are only for decoration and doesn't apply to them

4- similar to #3, but these drivers believe that regardless of how many lanes they are, that they are driving on all of them, swerving from one side of the road to the other back and forth, over and over again, I'm guessing after learning to drive on a racing video game.

5- getting stuck behind the asshat in the standard at a red light in a small hill, where the asshat cannot handle being able to prevent his vehicle from creeping backwards bit by bit as he has no ability with a clutch. (but will assure you of how great a driver they are)

6- cellphones, either talking or texting, they should be pulled over and kicked and such like a faulty printer.  I've see idiots holding their cells to their head while letting go of the steering wheel because they needed to make gestures while talking. Same with the ones applying make-up while driving.

7- dogs, another scenario where the driver that has the dog on their lap (or jumping all over the place) should be pulled over and beaten until their spleen comes out.

8- bumper riders... "look idiot, I'm either going at the limit or even higher (and that's the limit that I will go as I refuse to get a ticket over your dumbass), there is no way for me to let you pass right now because if I could I would as I enjoy having a buffer for the cops to go after, and if you seriously need to get to that red light 3 seconds faster so you can show your amazing braking abilities, you should go rent a racetrack and get it out of your system."


You do realize that right now your post makes you look like one of those people who scream at their windshield because someone isn't driving the way they want them to.  #5 by the way, OH NOES!!! A little bump to your car that probably didn't even cause a dent in your bumper.

You need to relax a bit there, not everybody in the world works by your schedule.  I'm one of those people that drives under the speed limit if i'm not in a rush to get anywhere.  If I am in fact in a rush, then I might push it to 5-10 over the speed limit.  I don't do it because i'm a scared driver, I do it because you don't farking know who is going to do what on the road, and if you are going too fast, your reflex speed won't be fast enough to prevent you from t-boning some douchebag who didn't stop for a red light.
 
2013-05-09 03:25:02 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Fark that, it should be anything slower than the posted speed limit (barring traffic/accidents). If you're in the left lane going 56 in a 65 you're still royally farking up traffic flow.

/Hate chicken-shiat douchebags that just ride in the left lane because they don't know how to actually drive


Yes, but your speeding, tailgating, illegal lane changes, and other aggressive driving behaviors cause wrecks too.
 
2013-05-09 03:27:31 PM  
Hero tag was made for this. In Jersey, PA, and a few other states "Keep Right, Pass Left" is the LAW, too bad it's never enforced or else you'd have no need for laws like this (that also won't be enforced.)
 
2013-05-09 03:27:57 PM  
The thing that drives me farking crazy, which I see EVERY DAMN MORNING on my way to work, is when you are in a line at a stoplight that has just turned green, and people leave like 6 to 8 car lengths in between themselves and the car in front of them. That's 6 people that you just made wait an extra 2-3 minutes while the lights cycle through again.  It makes my blood farking boil when I miss a light by 1 or 2 cars, and I see people leaving enough room in front of them for a bus to fit in.
 
2013-05-09 03:28:09 PM  
Also, I'm going to through this out there. With the exclusion, for some reason, of African American Males between 40 and 60ish, everyone who has ever driven a Lexus needs to lose their license.

I swear, those things must drive like a Sherman tank, because every single person who buys one immediately sets their level of giving a fark about other drivers to zero.
 
2013-05-09 03:29:52 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Yes, but your speeding, tailgating, illegal lane changes, and other aggressive driving behaviors cause wrecks too.


You know what would cut down on d-bags doing that?

Fewer idiots confusing careful driving with just driving like a slow-ass little biatch.

I don't like the maniacs either, but when you've got some asshole camped in the left lane blocking it up it's going to force those maniacs to weave into the other lanes. I'd rather first solve the problem of the idiots that block traffic up so the maniacs can just zip straight along before worrying about slowing the maniacs down.

The people blocking up lanes and causing more lane changes and speed differences are far more dangerous than the people who are just speeding. Speed alone aggravates a crash, but it rarely causes one.
 
2013-05-09 03:29:53 PM  

lokis_mentor: How does this affect the move over law, which requires an open lane near the safety issue and traffic slowed to 20 mph below posted speed limit?


It doesn't. Slow down for the safety issue, bypass it at appropriate speeds, don't farking gawk at it all god damned day, resume normal driving speeds and be on your merry. This law would apply during normal driving conditions. Construction, accidents, large hail, big dogs landing on my face, etc. are not normal driving conditions.
 
2013-05-09 03:30:13 PM  
I can see being in the left lane if you are making a left turn up ahead. BUT, you don't need to get into the left lane 8 miles before your turn.

As far as bicycles go, I ride one myself, but these pompous bustards that can't decide whether they are a pedestrian or a bicyclist.....................Or bicyclists that think it's OK to run red lights, not look both ways when crossing a road or intersection, ride into oncoming traffic, weave all over the place......Welcome to Gainesville.
 
PJ-
2013-05-09 03:32:20 PM  

Well I use Mac/Linux...: The thing that drives me farking crazy, which I see EVERY DAMN MORNING on my way to work, is when you are in a line at a stoplight that has just turned green, and people leave like 6 to 8 car lengths in between themselves and the car in front of them. That's 6 people that you just made wait an extra 2-3 minutes while the lights cycle through again.  It makes my blood farking boil when I miss a light by 1 or 2 cars, and I see people leaving enough room in front of them for a bus to fit in.


These people are easy to correct, you just slip your car in the spot that they left open.  They learn very quickly that they shouldn't be leaving that gap.  Usually the cause of people feeling they need the gap is when they have been rear ended, which caused them to hit the person in front of them.
 
2013-05-09 03:32:21 PM  

imfallen_angel: How about just going with a pet peeve while driving bingo.

1- slow drivers

2- drivers that have no clue on how to use their signal lights

3- drivers that believe that those lines on the ground are only for decoration and doesn't apply to them

4- similar to #3, but these drivers believe that regardless of how many lanes they are, that they are driving on all of them, swerving from one side of the road to the other back and forth, over and over again, I'm guessing after learning to drive on a racing video game.

5- getting stuck behind the asshat in the standard at a red light in a small hill, where the asshat cannot handle being able to prevent his vehicle from creeping backwards bit by bit as he has no ability with a clutch. (but will assure you of how great a driver they are)

6- cellphones, either talking or texting, they should be pulled over and kicked and such like a faulty printer.  I've see idiots holding their cells to their head while letting go of the steering wheel because they needed to make gestures while talking. Same with the ones applying make-up while driving.

7- dogs, another scenario where the driver that has the dog on their lap (or jumping all over the place) should be pulled over and beaten until their spleen comes out.

8- bumper riders... "look idiot, I'm either going at the limit or even higher (and that's the limit that I will go as I refuse to get a ticket over your dumbass), there is no way for me to let you pass right now because if I could I would as I enjoy having a buffer for the cops to go after, and if you seriously need to get to that red light 3 seconds faster so you can show your amazing braking abilities, you should go rent a racetrack and get it out of your system."


9- Drivers who refuse to merge when their lane is ending until the lines force them over.  Once they hit the end of the lane, they just start drifting into the through lane (no signal of course) and force their way in, usually slowing down (they think the proper way to merge into 75 MPH traffic is to slow down to 45).  It seems like they are thinking "Well, there's no way I could have forseen this!  Well, the lines are forcing me over, nothing I can do, it's out of my hands!".  These morons drive the same route every day but don't seem to remember that the lane ends, maybe they think the DOT came in overnight and extended the lane.
 
2013-05-09 03:32:38 PM  

Well I use Mac/Linux...: is when you are in a line at a stoplight that has just turned green, and people leave like 6 to 8 car lengths in between themselves and the car in front of them


Oh, yea, forgot about that one:

19. The car in front of you isn't going to let out a huge burrito fart. CLOSE THE DAMN GAP, ASSHOLE, YOU'RE WASTING USABLE SPACE.

And also:

20. Don't block turns to your right when traffic comes to a stop at a light, dipshiats.
 
2013-05-09 03:33:27 PM  

Calmamity: It's a good start. Now on to bicycles.

Let's pass a law acknowledging that if you can't keep up with the flow of traffic on the road you are a hazard to yourself and others, running red lights to make up the time that you spent jacking up traffic previously is not a viable solution, and you should not be allowed to endanger lives on public roadways just to satisfy your need to feel morally superior.


2/10
 
2013-05-09 03:34:05 PM  
Good. I would have expected anyone else but FL to come up with it but whatever.
 
2013-05-09 03:34:46 PM  
Wow. A lot of armchair NASCAR professionals here.

Don't let me get in the way of your posturing, fellas. We all know that every single one of you drives better than anyone else on the road, including each other.

Just stay away from me when you're driving. That's all I ask. I drive exactly the speed limit. I avoid huge clusters and packs of cars and prefer to drive between the packs... AWAY from the other drivers. The only way to be safe from other drivers is to avoid them completely.

And when you come cruising up at high speed on my left, be sure to wave, because I'll probably wave back when I catch up to you a moment later at the next light.

There's no sense in speeding. You won't get there much faster, thanks to stop signs, signals, traffic, and other factors. You might beat me to the same destination by a minute. Ooooh. I bet that minute really helped you when you were wandering around finding a close parking space while I parked in the back and walked, STILL beating you to the actual destination.

People who treat driving like its a competition are to be avoided.
 
PJ-
2013-05-09 03:35:24 PM  

CorruptDB: 9- Drivers who refuse to merge when their lane is ending until the lines force them over. Once they hit the end of the lane, they just start drifting into the through lane (no signal of course) and force their way in, usually slowing down (they think the proper way to merge into 75 MPH traffic is to slow down to 45). It seems like they are thinking "Well, there's no way I could have forseen this! Well, the lines are forcing me over, nothing I can do, it's out of my hands!". These morons drive the same route every day but don't seem to remember that the lane ends, maybe they think the DOT came in overnight and extended the lane.


But on the other hand, there is nothing better than watching a lineup of 30 cars working together blocking that person from merging in.
 
2013-05-09 03:35:57 PM  
I guess it shouldn't be surprising that they need that law in the state EVERYONE retires in...
 
2013-05-09 03:36:06 PM  

vabeard: eraser8: Lots of states have been doing similar things for years:

[www.mesalek.com image 650x400]

Yeah, I think it's "impeding traffic slow" or something similar.
/I've never seen it enforced.  Especially on I81 in Virginia,



We already have similar signs in Florida. Apparently they were never enforced either...
 
2013-05-09 03:36:56 PM  

skozlaw: 20. Don't block turns to your right when traffic comes to a stop at a light, dipshiats.


If my light is green, but I'm stopped to avoid clogging the intersection, you do not get to turn right on red once traffic across from me starts puttering along again.  You'll have your chance to turn when the light turns green.
 
2013-05-09 03:37:10 PM  
Only one rule needs to be implemented. If you're in the far left lane and you're not catching up to the car in front of you, GET OVER A-HOLE.

The self entitlement in this country is absurd.
 
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