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2013-05-09 01:10:19 PM
Fark that, it should be anything slower than the posted speed limit (barring traffic/accidents). If you're in the left lane going 56 in a 65 you're still royally farking up traffic flow.

/Hate chicken-shiat douchebags that just ride in the left lane because they don't know how to actually drive
 
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2013-05-09 01:12:18 PM
I think it should be legal to do the PIT maneuver on any car pacing the car in the lane to their right. If you're going to do the same speed as the car next to you, get in front of them, get behind them, just get the hell out of MY way
 
2013-05-09 01:14:11 PM
Difficulty: There is no fast lane

/Use the left lane to pass, then get the fark out of it
 
2013-05-09 01:14:55 PM
Before everyone starts calling them heroes and lauding this new law, just remember this.

They're going to have more patrol cars out to monitor the fast lane, which means they'll be catching more people for speeding too. You're gonna get busted just like the dbag going ten under.
 
2013-05-09 01:25:58 PM

scottydoesntknow: it should be anything slower than the posted speed limit


I think VA is like this for trucks.
 
2013-05-09 01:33:42 PM

the_sidewinder: Difficulty: There is no fast lane


See, this is truly the crux of the problem, and has always been so. The issue here is that generations of Americans have, as a sort of shorthand, referred to the left lane on a highway as "the fast lane." But the problem with that is that the word "fast" is quite subjective. I might, for example, believe that since the speed limit is 55, and I am going 57, I am going "fast" and therefore have every much a right to be in the lane as anyone else. Yes, I would have to be a slack-jawed simpleton to believe this, a halfwit bumpkin of no relative merit or worth, but the fact of the matter is that many American are exactly those things. I mean, have you been to Maryland?

So stop calling it a fast lane. Spend the extra syllable, refer to it as a passing lane. As in the following:

If I am not at this moment actively engaged in the process of passing a vehicle situated on my right-hand side, I should move immediately into the right lane myself and only re-enter the left lane when it becomes again necessary to pass another vehicle. The speed of my passing is irrelevant. How fast I believe I am going is irrelevant. All that matters is the action of passing, nothing else, and then, like a salmon who has just finished spawning and will now rest and die, the act of again moving right. This until it is time to spawn again.

Think of slack-jawed simpletons, the halfwit bumpkins everywhere. The Marylanders struggling to understand difficult concepts like "signs" and "signals." Make things easier, not more complicated. Passing lane. It is more difficult to say, but think of the payoffs.
 
2013-05-09 01:35:36 PM

TheHighlandHowler: scottydoesntknow: it should be anything slower than the posted speed limit

I think VA is like this for trucks.


I remember going to Houston from Dallas one summer between semesters. Two douchebag big-rigs were doing 68 (in a 70) and right next to each other, taking up both lanes. This went on for a few minutes (everyone behind honking, flashing lights, etc.) I'm right behind him and I notice he has one of those "How Am I Driving?" stickers.

I call it up, speak to the woman on the other line, tell her exactly what's happening and threaten to call Highway Patrol because they're obstructing traffic. About one minute later the douchebag in the left lane hits his brakes (slowing everyone down), and gets over into the right behind the other one.

He probably got about 40 middle fingers as everyone was passing him.
 
2013-05-09 01:40:57 PM
It's a good start. Now on to bicycles.

Let's pass a law acknowledging that if you can't keep up with the flow of traffic on the road you are a hazard to yourself and others, running red lights to make up the time that you spent jacking up traffic previously is not a viable solution, and you should not be allowed to endanger lives on public roadways just to satisfy your need to feel morally superior.
 
2013-05-09 01:45:53 PM

TheHighlandHowler: I think VA is like this for trucks.


In Missouri, I believe that if a highway is more than two lanes in your direction, trucks are never allowed in the left lane.
 
2013-05-09 01:46:12 PM
what about trikes

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2013-05-09 01:51:50 PM

scottydoesntknow: big-rigs were doing 68 (in a 70) and right next to each other, taking up both lanes.


IIRC, a few years back VA used to have a 55 limit for trucks and a 65 for cars.  This resulted in what I used to call "the sixty mile per hour truck races," and miles of back-up traffic.
 
2013-05-09 01:52:56 PM
Lots of states have been doing similar things for years:

www.mesalek.com
 
2013-05-09 01:55:57 PM
Only if an infraction merits the death penalty is this worthwhile.
 
2013-05-09 01:58:54 PM
I assume they once again failed to address the menace of uncanceled turn signals?
 
2013-05-09 01:59:29 PM

eraser8: Lots of states have been doing similar things for years:

[www.mesalek.com image 650x400]


they should make the speed limit 65 and make minimum 64.68 and monitor the road with lasers
 
2013-05-09 02:06:34 PM

I_Am_Weasel: I assume they once again failed to address the menace of uncanceled turn signals?


The people I want cannonized* are the people who brake and only use their turn signals once they've slowed down to 5 miles per hour.  Please, for the love of all that is good, signal your turn BEFORE applying the brake.

*cannonized: to be shot out of a cannon.  Not to be confused with canonized: to be declared a saint.
 
2013-05-09 02:10:36 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: eraser8: Lots of states have been doing similar things for years:

[www.mesalek.com image 650x400]

they should make the speed limit 65 and make minimum 64.68 and monitor the road with lasers


Wait...are the lasers for measuring speed of for vaporizing offenders?
 
2013-05-09 02:11:40 PM
Yeah, this will be enforced.

*rolls eyes*

"Feel good" legislation.

Now excuse me, I have a call from CARD SERVICES coming in.
 
2013-05-09 02:25:57 PM
I've always thought they should do graduated speed limits in 5mph increments per lane.
i.e. if posted sign says 70mph,
right lane: no minimum, max 70mph
center lane: 70 min, 75 max
left lane: 75 min, 80 max
etc

You'd probably have to work on the "slower traffic keep right" laws to be compatible with that though.  i.e. it's currently illegal to drive the speed limit in the left lane, if you're not passing anybody, but with this there's good reason to be hanging out in the left lane, so need some way to resolve the situation where a guy going faster than you approaches.  I guess it's reasonable to say that you need to change lanes and slow down to that lane's sped limit until the other guy has passed you?
 
2013-05-09 02:35:45 PM

scottydoesntknow: Fark that, it should be anything slower than the posted speed limit (barring traffic/accidents). If you're in the left lane going 56 in a 65 you're still royally farking up traffic flow.

/Hate chicken-shiat douchebags that just ride in the left lane because they don't know how to actually drive



Ugh....that's too common in Washington State.
 
2013-05-09 02:37:56 PM
Alot of anger and frustration being expressed in this thread.

When you embrace that fact that everyone else is more important than you, you won't be nearly as frustrated with driving.
 
2013-05-09 02:39:03 PM

serial_crusher: I've always thought they should do graduated speed limits in 5mph increments per lane.


Whoa there, cowboy. In theory I agree with you, but half the people driving on Interstates now can't handle it. Just because it's the law isn't going to stop grandpa from hugging the left shoulder.
 
2013-05-09 02:40:54 PM

Diogenes: Alot of anger and frustration being expressed in this thread.

When you embrace that fact that everyone else is more important than you, you won't be nearly as frustrated with driving.


Don't you have to go look for an honest man or something?
 
2013-05-09 02:46:03 PM
Any RV driver who willfully moves into the left-most (or "passing" lane) for any reason other than avoiding an accident or at the express command of an on-duty law enforcement officer shall have the driver's license suspended and revoked and the physical license itself cut into triangular pieces no smaller than one-half inch and no larger than one inch on each said and have the aforementioned pieces hammered up the driver's urethra using a rusty ball-peen hammer at a public ceremony.
 
2013-05-09 02:47:30 PM
Dammit. "side" not "said."

I'm smashing my keyboard into 1/3rd inch pieces and getting a hammer.
 
2013-05-09 02:50:15 PM

show me: Diogenes: Alot of anger and frustration being expressed in this thread.

When you embrace that fact that everyone else is more important than you, you won't be nearly as frustrated with driving.

Don't you have to go look for an honest man or something?


My barrel is in the shop.  I rear ended someone cruising in the left lane.
 
2013-05-09 02:51:45 PM

the_sidewinder: Difficulty: There is no fast lane

/Use the left lane to pass, then get the fark out of it


I dunno, Americans, I've found, are actually pretty good at this, until you add a third lane and everyone gets stupid.

/Canadian who finds most of your two-lane highways much saner than we have up here.
 
2013-05-09 02:52:09 PM

Pocket Ninja: the_sidewinder: Difficulty: There is no fast lane

See, this is truly the crux of the problem, and has always been so. The issue here is that generations of Americans have, as a sort of shorthand, referred to the left lane on a highway as "the fast lane." But the problem with that is that the word "fast" is quite subjective. I might, for example, believe that since the speed limit is 55, and I am going 57, I am going "fast" and therefore have every much a right to be in the lane as anyone else. Yes, I would have to be a slack-jawed simpleton to believe this, a halfwit bumpkin of no relative merit or worth, but the fact of the matter is that many American are exactly those things. I mean, have you been to Maryland?

So stop calling it a fast lane. Spend the extra syllable, refer to it as a passing lane. As in the following:

If I am not at this moment actively engaged in the process of passing a vehicle situated on my right-hand side, I should move immediately into the right lane myself and only re-enter the left lane when it becomes again necessary to pass another vehicle. The speed of my passing is irrelevant. How fast I believe I am going is irrelevant. All that matters is the action of passing, nothing else, and then, like a salmon who has just finished spawning and will now rest and die, the act of again moving right. This until it is time to spawn again.

Think of slack-jawed simpletons, the halfwit bumpkins everywhere. The Marylanders struggling to understand difficult concepts like "signs" and "signals." Make things easier, not more complicated. Passing lane. It is more difficult to say, but think of the payoffs.


sings on our highways say the left lane if for passing only. or something to that effect
 
2013-05-09 02:53:51 PM

Aarontology: Before everyone starts calling them heroes and lauding this new law, just remember this.

They're going to have more patrol cars out to monitor the fast lane, which means they'll be catching more people for speeding too. You're gonna get busted just like the dbag going ten under.


I highly doubt they're going to have more patrol cars out specifically for this. All this really does is allow a patrol car to pull over and cite a driver for driving too slow.
 
2013-05-09 02:55:05 PM
If you go rushin' down that freeway you'll get messed around and get lost .
 
2013-05-09 02:55:25 PM

eraser8: I_Am_Weasel: I assume they once again failed to address the menace of uncanceled turn signals?

The people I want cannonized* are the people who brake and only use their turn signals once they've slowed down to 5 miles per hour.  Please, for the love of all that is good, signal your turn BEFORE applying the brake.

*cannonized: to be shot out of a cannon.  Not to be confused with canonized: to be declared a saint.


Also people who wait to put on their directional until the light turns green.
 
2013-05-09 02:56:53 PM
Minimum speed limits are already common, and even where they're not, cops can and will pull you over if you're going dangerously slow and there's no extenuating circumstance.

People who zone out and trudge along in the left lane won't stop doing it because of this law any more than people who drive 85 because they can handle it because [reasons]* are stopped by speed limits.

* not to be construed as wanting to hear your reasons
 
2013-05-09 02:58:32 PM

The_Sponge: scottydoesntknow: Fark that, it should be anything slower than the posted speed limit (barring traffic/accidents). If you're in the left lane going 56 in a 65 you're still royally farking up traffic flow.

/Hate chicken-shiat douchebags that just ride in the left lane because they don't know how to actually drive


Ugh....that's too common in Washington State.

In the US

Didnt see this happen a lot in Europe.
 
2013-05-09 03:00:03 PM

eraser8: I_Am_Weasel: I assume they once again failed to address the menace of uncanceled turn signals?

The people I want cannonized* are the people who brake and only use their turn signals once they've slowed down to 5 miles per hour.  Please, for the love of all that is good, signal your turn BEFORE applying the brake.

*cannonized: to be shot out of a cannon.  Not to be confused with canonized: to be declared a saint.


Also the guy who is already halfway into your lane before he turns the signal on for 2 blinks.  Why even bother at that point?

/ Sidetrack: I think cars should have a "straight" signal as well as the turn signals.  That way when you're at an intersection you know whether the guy is actually going straight or whether he's some idiot who's just not signaling.
 
2013-05-09 03:00:05 PM

Cyno01: eraser8: I_Am_Weasel: I assume they once again failed to address the menace of uncanceled turn signals?

The people I want cannonized* are the people who brake and only use their turn signals once they've slowed down to 5 miles per hour.  Please, for the love of all that is good, signal your turn BEFORE applying the brake.

*cannonized: to be shot out of a cannon.  Not to be confused with canonized: to be declared a saint.

Also people who wait to put on their directional until the light turns green.


But that clicking sound is the  worst sound in the world!
 
2013-05-09 03:00:32 PM

TheHighlandHowler: scottydoesntknow: big-rigs were doing 68 (in a 70) and right next to each other, taking up both lanes.

IIRC, a few years back VA used to have a 55 limit for trucks and a 65 for cars.  This resulted in what I used to call "the sixty mile per hour truck races," and miles of back-up traffic.


The I-5 in Southern Oregon is particularly evil for this. There is a 65/55 rule there and the place is very hilly, two lanes, and results in ridiculous truck road hogging where the truck drivers think they can pass a "slower" truck but end up losing a shiat ton of speed on the uphill slope. GAH.
 
2013-05-09 03:01:35 PM

Aarontology: Before everyone starts calling them heroes and lauding this new law, just remember this.

They're going to have more patrol cars out to monitor the fast lane, which means they'll be catching more people for speeding too. You're gonna get busted just like the dbag going ten under.


Unless you're driving a Volvo station wagon. They seem to be invisible to cops.
 
2013-05-09 03:01:38 PM

serial_crusher: I've always thought they should do graduated speed limits in 5mph increments per lane.
i.e. if posted sign says 70mph,
right lane: no minimum, max 70mph
center lane: 70 min, 75 max
left lane: 75 min, 80 max
etc

You'd probably have to work on the "slower traffic keep right" laws to be compatible with that though.  i.e. it's currently illegal to drive the speed limit in the left lane, if you're not passing anybody, but with this there's good reason to be hanging out in the left lane, so need some way to resolve the situation where a guy going faster than you approaches.  I guess it's reasonable to say that you need to change lanes and slow down to that lane's sped limit until the other guy has passed you?


I like this idea a lot. On wider freeways, I'd go with unlimited in the left lane, but if someone puts a petition for this in front of me, I'll sign it. If it gets on the ballot, I'll vote for it.
 
2013-05-09 03:02:11 PM

Pocket Ninja: the_sidewinder: Difficulty: There is no fast lane

See, this is truly the crux of the problem, and has always been so. The issue here is that generations of Americans have, as a sort of shorthand, referred to the left lane on a highway as "the fast lane." But the problem with that is that the word "fast" is quite subjective. I might, for example, believe that since the speed limit is 55, and I am going 57, I am going "fast" and therefore have every much a right to be in the lane as anyone else. Yes, I would have to be a slack-jawed simpleton to believe this, a halfwit bumpkin of no relative merit or worth, but the fact of the matter is that many American are exactly those things. I mean, have you been to Maryland?

So stop calling it a fast lane. Spend the extra syllable, refer to it as a passing lane. As in the following:

If I am not at this moment actively engaged in the process of passing a vehicle situated on my right-hand side, I should move immediately into the right lane myself and only re-enter the left lane when it becomes again necessary to pass another vehicle. The speed of my passing is irrelevant. How fast I believe I am going is irrelevant. All that matters is the action of passing, nothing else, and then, like a salmon who has just finished spawning and will now rest and die, the act of again moving right. This until it is time to spawn again.

Think of slack-jawed simpletons, the halfwit bumpkins everywhere. The Marylanders struggling to understand difficult concepts like "signs" and "signals." Make things easier, not more complicated. Passing lane. It is more difficult to say, but think of the payoffs.


If you think Marylanders drive bad... Drive around Oklahoma... Still couldn't believe it.
 
2013-05-09 03:02:38 PM

scottydoesntknow: TheHighlandHowler: scottydoesntknow: it should be anything slower than the posted speed limit

I think VA is like this for trucks.

I remember going to Houston from Dallas one summer between semesters. Two douchebag big-rigs were doing 68 (in a 70) and right next to each other, taking up both lanes.


Right...the reason for this is that driving a tractor and trailer that are close to 80,000 lb (or more depending on the state and cargo) is not like driving your Prius. If one truck in the right lane is going 68 and the one is the "passing lane" is going 69, this can go on for miles. However, the trucks are generally tracked for speed by GPS, so going 70MPH or more to pass may not be an option. Slowing down or speeding up is a trick in itself in those things and both of those take up a considerable amount of fuel. Consider they are getting maybe 4-5 MPG as it is and have hundreds more miles to go, and suddenly his unwillingness to "move" for you is not unimaginable.
 
2013-05-09 03:04:14 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Any RV driver who willfully moves into the left-most (or "passing" lane) for any reason other than avoiding an accident or at the express command of an on-duty law enforcement officer shall have the driver's license suspended and revoked and the physical license itself cut into triangular pieces no smaller than one-half inch and no larger than one inch on each said and have the aforementioned pieces hammered up the driver's urethra using a rusty ball-peen hammer at a public ceremony.


Well, I've seen RVs stuck behind a dumbass that couldn't move faster than 20 under the limit, the RV passed them, returned to their lanes and the dumbass was left behind...

So it's not an RV thing.

I couldn't care less if it's an RV or a Ferrari, if you're in the passing lane, pass, and return to the right side once cleared the slower traffic.
 
2013-05-09 03:06:40 PM
I'm OK with this, and I"m usually the one saying you shouldn't be going over the speed limit.  You shouldn't be going slower then the posted speed anyway.

/everybody should be going the speed limit.
 
2013-05-09 03:06:45 PM

Pocket Ninja: Yes, I would have to be a slack-jawed simpleton to believe this, a halfwit bumpkin of no relative merit or worth, but the fact of the matter is that many American are exactly those things. I mean, have you been to Maryland?

So stop calling it a fast lane. Spend the extra syllable, refer to it as a passing lane. As in the following:


In defense of Marylanders (I now feel dirty), I-95 in Maryland has entirely too many left exists and entrances, so even the term "passing lane" is only incompletely correct.
 
2013-05-09 03:07:46 PM
I once knew an old bag senior citizen who intentionally drove slow in the fast/passing lane.
She said it was for safety reasons: "The families of those fast drivers will thank me for ensuring they got home safely after driving at a nice, safe speed"
 
2013-05-09 03:07:53 PM

bigbadideasinaction: the_sidewinder: Difficulty: There is no fast lane

/Use the left lane to pass, then get the fark out of it

I dunno, Americans, I've found, are actually pretty good at this, until you add a third lane and everyone gets stupid.

/Canadian who finds most of your two-lane highways much saner than we have up here.


In many states, the "left lane is only for passing" rule only applies when the highway is two lanes each way. If you add a third lane, then slow traffic can use any lane. Trucks may have to stay out of the left lane since they have HUGE blind spots.
 
2013-05-09 03:07:53 PM

Calmamity: It's a good start. Now on to bicycles.

Let's pass a law acknowledging that if you can't keep up with the flow of traffic on the road you are a hazard to yourself and others, running red lights to make up the time that you spent jacking up traffic previously is not a viable solution, and you should not be allowed to endanger lives on public roadways just to satisfy your need to feel morally superior.


OH god bicyles are the worst.  If I were traveling in my car the speed that people on bicycles go I would be ticked for obstructing the flow of traffic,  Sure you can share the road but you also get the same responsibilities and that includes keeping up with the flow of traffic.
 
2013-05-09 03:08:02 PM

eraser8: I_Am_Weasel: I assume they once again failed to address the menace of uncanceled turn signals?

The people I want cannonized*


cache.jalopnik.com

The only way to be sure.
 
2013-05-09 03:08:22 PM
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2013-05-09 03:08:28 PM
If we wanted sane Left Lane Laws, it would be completely legal to drag left lane squatters from their vehicles and beat them with sticks.

/something both Democrats and Republicans can get behind.  Republicans because Hey, Violence! and Democrats because they can draft minutae regulating the size, heft and composition of the sticks and the duration of the beating.
 
2013-05-09 03:08:49 PM

This text is now purple: Pocket Ninja: Yes, I would have to be a slack-jawed simpleton to believe this, a halfwit bumpkin of no relative merit or worth, but the fact of the matter is that many American are exactly those things. I mean, have you been to Maryland?

So stop calling it a fast lane. Spend the extra syllable, refer to it as a passing lane. As in the following:


In defense of Marylanders (I now feel dirty), I-95 in Maryland has entirely too many left exits and entrances, so even the term "passing lane" is only incompletely correct.

\Fixed
 
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