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2013-05-09 11:16:11 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-05-09 11:26:15 AM
Seems like this kid could benefit from learning some diction, grammar, and debate skills.

// but teach pedagogically, not "from a packet"
// kid sounds like every dumbass ever kicked out of class
// righteous indignation and $3.95 will buy you a latte, sport
 
2013-05-09 11:26:35 AM
This kid has seen too many inspirational teacher movies. Teacher probably earns minimum wage, has over-filled classrooms all day, has to deal with unruly students (video is case in point) and he expects her to 'touch students hearts,' to make them want to learn? Sorry guy from 80's band Nelson, the desire to learn needs to come from the student. Sit down and stfu.
 
2013-05-09 11:28:31 AM

Dr Dreidel: // kid sounds like every dumbass ever kicked out of class


Yup.
 
2013-05-09 11:43:05 AM
"Don't you condescend me, man".

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-09 12:07:58 PM
He's going to have a fun time in college.

And he should cut his hair.
 
2013-05-09 12:17:29 PM

minoridiot: He's going to have a fun time in college.

And he should cut his hair.


Why? what better time is there to have a shiatty haircut than in your teens?

My daughter's sophomore algebra this year was entirely online, the teacher in class didn't explain anything, her philosophy was 'Understand it or too damned bad.'
 
2013-05-09 12:20:39 PM

insano: earns minimum wage


No they don't. No full-time teacher makes $16K/yr.
 
2013-05-09 12:21:29 PM
www.movieposter.com

She was being "Ditto" and he wanted that insane guy from Soap.
 
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2013-05-09 12:29:10 PM
Good for this kid.
He stood up for something he believed in and thought to be important, in front of a laughing class, accepted his punishment, and did all this without raising his voice or swearing.  On the other hand, he should have brought this up with the teacher in private first (if he hadn't already).
 
2013-05-09 12:31:17 PM
This is interesting. On Reddit the kid was seen unilaterally as a hero and a smart young man who has had enough of the system. I come here and people are more mixed in their reactions. This tells me one thing: I need to stop going on reddit.
 
2013-05-09 12:35:29 PM

Mawson of the Antarctic: This is interesting. On Reddit the kid was seen unilaterally as a hero and a smart young man who has had enough of the system. I come here and people are more mixed in their reactions. This tells me one thing: I need to stop going on reddit.


That's because I think Fark is an older crowd who remembers being this young and full of fire but who also understands that the world rarely lives up to your youthful ideals.  He's not the first to rage against the machine and he won't be the last.
 
2013-05-09 12:35:36 PM
'yo'.
 
2013-05-09 12:45:56 PM
Guys talking like hes straight outta compton, but he lookin like hes straight outta whitesnake, yo.
 
2013-05-09 12:46:37 PM

Mentat: Mawson of the Antarctic: This is interesting. On Reddit the kid was seen unilaterally as a hero and a smart young man who has had enough of the system. I come here and people are more mixed in their reactions. This tells me one thing: I need to stop going on reddit.

That's because I think Fark is an older crowd who remembers being this young and full of fire but who also understands that the world rarely lives up to your youthful ideals.  He's not the first to rage against the machine and he won't be the last.


And some of us know teachers whose students are apathetic brats because their parents don't give a damn about education.
 
2013-05-09 12:51:15 PM

BEER_ME_in_CT: Guys talking like hes straight outta compton, but he lookin like hes straight outta whitesnake, yo.


Doesn't mean he doesn't have a valid point
 
2013-05-09 12:51:23 PM
I thought it was quite good actually that he said his piece. Because the system is a blanket one size fits all educational platform tht does need improving. We need teachers who care - not teachers who just want to idle by.
 
2013-05-09 01:00:19 PM

Lorelle: Mentat: Mawson of the Antarctic: This is interesting. On Reddit the kid was seen unilaterally as a hero and a smart young man who has had enough of the system. I come here and people are more mixed in their reactions. This tells me one thing: I need to stop going on reddit.

That's because I think Fark is an older crowd who remembers being this young and full of fire but who also understands that the world rarely lives up to your youthful ideals.  He's not the first to rage against the machine and he won't be the last.

And some of us know teachers whose students are apathetic brats because their parents don't give a damn about education.


Yup. You get what you put in, though I would say both sides of the desk are losing in the American Education system.

/teacher
//college, thank God
 
2013-05-09 01:00:29 PM
I just watched this and it is surprisingly relevant. teachers take note.
Neither the U.K. or the U.S.A. place enough focus on education. We need better teachers and better students. And yes, you can get better students by impressing upon them the importance and value of education, but this needs to be a social shift not just some long-hair metal head ranting at his, blatantly, jobs-worth teacher. (nttawwt!)
 
2013-05-09 01:01:29 PM
$5 says right before this moment the kid was doing something stupid, loud and annoying for the singular purpose of bringing attention to himself.
 
2013-05-09 01:05:47 PM

hippyneil: I just watched this and it is surprisingly relevant. teachers take note.
Neither the U.K. or the U.S.A. place enough focus on education. We need better teachers and better students. And yes, you can get better students by impressing upon them the importance and value of education, but this needs to be a social shift not just some long-hair metal head (nttawwt!) ranting at his, blatantly, jobs-worth teacher.

/fixed it for me
 
2013-05-09 01:13:45 PM

Mentat: That's because I think Fark is an older crowd who remembers being this young and full of fire but who also understands that the world rarely lives up to your youthful ideals.  He's not the first to rage against the machine and he won't be the last.


Well said, Mentat.

/fark reddit
 
2013-05-09 01:18:27 PM
"Some people don't learn like that!"

Then take the damn packet and turn it into something you can learn from. Ask for tutoring, read it out loud, make flashcards, do something. The teacher has too many students to possibly cater each lesson to each student. You're as much responsible for your education as she is.

It's easier to do nothing and act righteously indignant, though. Please proceed.

/just know you're going to fail at life if you don't make an effort to learn
//no college professor is going to change his or her lesson for you, champ
///hate that "I learn differently!" excuse.
 
2013-05-09 01:20:24 PM

Crewmannumber6: minoridiot: He's going to have a fun time in college.

And he should cut his hair.

Why? what better time is there to have a shiatty haircut than in your teens?

My daughter's sophomore algebra this year was entirely online, the teacher in class didn't explain anything, her philosophy was 'Understand it or too damned bad.'


Welcome to online classes.
Well, not exactly.  Usually the professor has some kind of office hours to ask questions.  With no classroom element online classes are incredibly dependent upon the student for motivation, self-learning, and self-awareness (you need to be able to figure out what you do and do NOT understand, to be able to ask the prof).

Of course, this being algebra so its highly likely you are referring to highschool.  In that case, its odd you have an online course there....
 
2013-05-09 01:28:10 PM

Gecko Gingrich: insano: earns minimum wage

No they don't. No full-time teacher makes $16K/yr.


Ok, it was hyperbole. Bottom line, she's probably not paid very much. Is that better?
 
2013-05-09 01:28:51 PM
White... power?

Seriously, hopefully in ten years, he'll sharpen that blade into something that can actually be used... and he'll get a haircut... and a new accent... and new duds.
 
2013-05-09 01:38:16 PM

Crewmannumber6: minoridiot: He's going to have a fun time in college.

And he should cut his hair.

Why? what better time is there to have a shiatty haircut than in your teens?

My daughter's sophomore algebra this year was entirely online, the teacher in class didn't explain anything, her philosophy was 'Understand it or too damned bad.'


And the kid in the video has the benefit of being able to ask his teacher questions if he doesn't understand things presented in his packet. So what is his problem?
 
2013-05-09 01:43:25 PM

Coolfusis: "Some people don't learn like that!"

Then take the damn packet and turn it into something you can learn from. Ask for tutoring, read it out loud, make flashcards, do something. The teacher has too many students to possibly cater each lesson to each student. You're as much responsible for your education as she is.

It's easier to do nothing and act righteously indignant, though. Please proceed.

/just know you're going to fail at life if you don't make an effort to learn
//no college professor is going to change his or her lesson for you, champ
///hate that "I learn differently!" excuse.


When I was a high school senior, I took regular Senior English because the honors class I should have been enrolled in was scheduled at the same time as a required class. No books were used in this independent-study class; instead, there was something called an SRA box, which consisted of about a couple hundred large cards with stories or articles, followed by a few easy questions. It took me about two months to go through the entire box. With my teacher's approval, I spent the rest of the school year reading library books (my choice) and writing weekly book reports.
 
2013-05-09 01:49:17 PM

insano: Crewmannumber6: minoridiot: He's going to have a fun time in college.

And he should cut his hair.

Why? what better time is there to have a shiatty haircut than in your teens?

My daughter's sophomore algebra this year was entirely online, the teacher in class didn't explain anything, her philosophy was 'Understand it or too damned bad.'

And the kid in the video has the benefit of being able to ask his teacher questions if he doesn't understand things presented in his packet. So what is his problem?


My guess is he may have tried that a time or two and got a response something like 'It's in the handout'.
 
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2013-05-09 01:52:57 PM

Cluckity: $5 says right before this moment the kid was doing something stupid, loud and annoying for the singular purpose of bringing attention to himself.


Bet taken.
 
2013-05-09 01:55:39 PM

Coolfusis: Then take the damn packet and turn it into something you can learn from. Ask for tutoring, read it out loud, make flashcards, do something. The teacher has too many students to possibly cater each lesson to each student. You're as much responsible for your education as she is.


Yes, but the lseeon they put out should be more than a packet.
 
2013-05-09 01:58:05 PM
Nice Walken impression...  Repeating "packets" with such forcefulness, for some reason, made me think of that old song, Sex Packets by Digital Underground...

/It's cool, take a packet fool
Biochemically compacted sexual affection
Now here, take a look at my selection
Yeah, he's the packet man
 
2013-05-09 02:06:56 PM
Kid is naive and full of righteous fury.

But, he's not wrong.

He's smart enough to see that the system is failing him and the giggling morons that surround him, and he's raging about it, but he's not old enough to know that the system will punish him for being righteous in his fury, and at the end of the day, nothing will change.

He'll have to teach himself in spite of the system.

On a positive note, if he makes it to college, he'll be prepared for the whole 'teach yourself' thing.
 
2013-05-09 02:16:25 PM
When I was a high school senior, I took regular Senior English because the honors class I should have been enrolled in was scheduled at the same time as a required class. No books were used in this independent-study class; instead, there was something called an SRA box, which consisted of about a couple hundred large cards with stories or articles, followed by a few easy questions. It took me about two months to go through the entire box. With my teacher's approval, I spent the rest of the school year reading library books (my choice) and writing weekly book reports.

Wow.  We used SRA cards in school, too, but in elementary school (not kidding)! I can't imagine that they were intended to be used all through high school--I mean, they simply weren't. Seriously asking this: was the "regular-level English" class in your school dumbed down?
 
2013-05-09 02:37:28 PM

insano: Gecko Gingrich: insano: earns minimum wage

No they don't. No full-time teacher makes $16K/yr.

Ok, it was hyperbole. Bottom line, she's probably not paid very much. Is that better?


Teachers (in public schools) are municipal employees, and as such their salaries (or at least a range) are usually public information.  Average salary in my district - a small but far from rich town - is in the mid 70s.
 
2013-05-09 02:49:02 PM

GnomePaladin: Teachers (in public schools) are municipal employees, and as such their salaries (or at least a range) are usually public information. Average salary in my district - a small but far from rich town - is in the mid 70s.


I can't find a full pay scale for teachers in the Duncanville ISD, but "new hires" start at ~$45K/yr.
 
2013-05-09 03:00:04 PM

insano: Gecko Gingrich: insano: earns minimum wage

No they don't. No full-time teacher makes $16K/yr.

Ok, it was hyperbole. Bottom line, she's probably not paid very much. Is that better?


The average teacher salary in Texas is $48k.  That's not a bad income based on cost of living for Texas.

http://www.teacherportal.com/teacher-salaries-by-state/
 
2013-05-09 03:25:13 PM
As a former sub and soon to be teacher, I wouldn't mind a room full of kids that would consider learning like this kid.  He is right, packet teaching to HS kids is a lazy way out.  She wouldn't make it to tenure in my state (btw, we have the best HS in the nation in my state).
 
2013-05-09 03:33:30 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-09 03:33:33 PM
Looked to me like they both needed to man up and deal with it in a better manner.  She was clearly not interested in what he had to say, (mm hmm, you dont say, uh huh, get out, mmhmm). His frustration grew with that stance, which he doesn't know how to handle yet.

Good intentions, but poorly executed. But who's been in a room where this didn't happen at least once during a hormonal growth spurt?
 
2013-05-09 03:46:44 PM
Wicked Chinchilla:
Of course, this being algebra so its highly likely you are referring to highschool.  In that case, its odd you have an online course there....

The local school here offers online classes to freshman (high school) and up students.  Granted you need to have better than average grades to qualify for them.
--
In some ways i understand where the kid is coming from. The last 5 years of school for me was "Here is a book, read chapters X,  tomorrow a quiz"   As with someone that has reading comprehension issues this was a huge issue.  Teachers never cared and never helped other than doing that class again.  It was fun taking 4 English classes my senior year.
 
2013-05-09 03:51:35 PM
At least he wants to learn (I assume)
 
2013-05-09 03:56:29 PM
minoridiot: And he should cut his hair.

No. No, he should not. He should be whatever and whoever he chooses - whether or not you care for his appearance. If that means he's not a suitable candidate for a soul-sucking job as a teller or a customer service rep at farking Verizon, that is his choice.

That shiat isn't exactly all it's cracked up to be.
 
2013-05-09 04:02:31 PM
Good for this kid.  I'm fine with defending good teachers when it comes to hours being put in, salary etc, but any teacher who is just handing out packets certainly shouldn't be grouped in with any good teachers.
 
2013-05-09 04:10:57 PM
I feel as though he has some valid points.  There are many who will disagree with what he has to say simply based on his age, appearance, use of colloquial language, etc. and that is their loss.  After all, which is more important, the medium or the message?
 
2013-05-09 04:11:39 PM

MelGoesOnTour: Wow.  We used SRA cards in school, too, but in elementary school (not kidding)! I can't imagine that they were intended to be used all through high school--I mean, they simply weren't. Seriously asking this: was the "regular-level English" class in your school dumbed down?


Definitely. I also used SRA cards in elementary school. During my first two years of high school, I took what were called Team classes: two-hours-long English/History honors classes. Regular English turned out to be rather enjoyable, though; I was already in the habit of reading books in my spare time, and it was nice to receive academic credit for it. I recall reading Brave New World and Animal Farm because my friends in Senior Team were studying them (I hated feeling left out), but I also read plenty of Kurt Vonnegut novels.
 
2013-05-09 04:48:17 PM

Lorelle: MelGoesOnTour: Wow.  We used SRA cards in school, too, but in elementary school (not kidding)! I can't imagine that they were intended to be used all through high school--I mean, they simply weren't. Seriously asking this: was the "regular-level English" class in your school dumbed down?

Definitely. I also used SRA cards in elementary school. During my first two years of high school, I took what were called Team classes: two-hours-long English/History honors classes. Regular English turned out to be rather enjoyable, though; I was already in the habit of reading books in my spare time, and it was nice to receive academic credit for it. I recall reading Brave New World and Animal Farm because my friends in Senior Team were studying them (I hated feeling left out), but I also read plenty of Kurt Vonnegut novels.


Judging from your reading list (I bet you're familiar with 'Bullfinch's Mythology', too, eh?) I'm assuming we're peers---and I also had "team" classes (which I'm guessing must have been the preferred style of teaching at the time). In any case, the SRA method seemed to work for me as I became a voracious reader in elementary school. I also recall how the cards were color coded (for some reason I've always associated 'aqua' with SRA).

/old
 
2013-05-09 04:55:48 PM
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2013-05-09 05:15:30 PM

BEER_ME_in_CT: Guys talking like hes straight outta compton, but he lookin like hes straight outta whitesnake, yo.


Duncanville, TX...definitely a wigger.
 
2013-05-09 05:34:46 PM

Gecko Gingrich: insano: earns minimum wage

No they don't. No full-time teacher makes $16K/yr.


Ha! I make above minimum and make less a year working full time.
 
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