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vpb [TotalFark]
2013-05-09 11:34:06 AM
I think people get "motive" and "excuse" confused.
 
2013-05-09 11:35:11 AM
These people aint robots

They do act on their own feelings.

Whomever invented the "ITS SOCIETIES FAULT THAT I..." needs to be beaten with a dildo.
 
2013-05-09 11:53:57 AM

cman: Whomever invented the "ITS SOCIETIES FAULT THAT I..." needs to be beaten with a dildo.


Now all of this stupid bullshiat that children have been so crippled by has grown out of something called the Self Esteem Movement. The Self Esteem Movement began in 1970, and I'm happy to say it has been a complete failure, because studies have repeatedly shown that having high self esteem does not improve grades, does not improve career achievement, it does not even lower the use of alcohol, and it most certainly does not reduce the incidence of violence, because as it turns out, extremely violent, aggressive people think very highly of themselves! Imagine that: sociopaths have high self esteem. Who woulda thunk? I love it when this happens, I love when these politically correct ideas crash and burn and end up in the shiat house. -- George Carlin
 
2013-05-09 12:13:21 PM
So what? Once damaged always damaged?!
 
2013-05-09 12:30:01 PM
Get ready to relive that childhood.
 
2013-05-09 12:30:02 PM
That crap should be immediate grounds for letting the endless nut-punching commence.

/it's not cruel punishment if the crime was crueller
 
2013-05-09 12:31:26 PM
He also said it was their own fault because they got in the car of a stranger.

I can't believe his brothers aren't being charged with anything. They all lived there didn't they? They never asked him "Hey bro, what's with all that screaming coming from the basement and who are these women who keep coming up out of the basement?". At the very least they are accomplices.
 
2013-05-09 12:31:29 PM
Oh well then you're free to go.  Sorry, we didn't know.
 
2013-05-09 12:32:16 PM

cman: These people aint robots

They do act on their own feelings.

Whomever invented the "ITS SOCIETIES FAULT THAT I..." needs to be beaten with a dildo.


24.media.tumblr.com

SOCIETY!
 
2013-05-09 12:32:29 PM
That's sad. We should set him free.
 
2013-05-09 12:32:44 PM
"Its"

/grammar nazi i know
//pet peeve
 
2013-05-09 12:33:17 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-09 12:33:28 PM
Wait a minute, it's all become clear what we must do.


Ariel Castro - Jodi Arias Cage Match!


Huh?!?
 
2013-05-09 12:33:39 PM

Walker: He also said it was their own fault because they got in the car of a stranger.

I can't believe his brothers aren't being charged with anything. They all lived there didn't they? They never asked him "Hey bro, what's with all that screaming coming from the basement and who are these women who keep coming up out of the basement?". At the very least they are accomplices.


That and the police reports of three men with naked women on leashes.  And the 3:3 man:woman ratio doesn't seem like a coincidence.  We'll find out soon enough when the victim's report comes out if they name the brothers as being present at any time.
 
2013-05-09 12:33:49 PM
I personally believe that these guys are hundreds of times worse than the Boston bombers.
 
2013-05-09 12:34:45 PM
rape rape more rape

His name gives me an idea.
 
2013-05-09 12:35:26 PM

AngryJailhouseFistfark: Wait a minute, it's all become clear what we must do.


Ariel Castro - Jodi Arias Cage Match!


Huh?!?


knives versus chains
 
2013-05-09 12:35:46 PM
Awwww. Poor guy.
 
2013-05-09 12:36:02 PM

NutWrench: cman: Whomever invented the "ITS SOCIETIES FAULT THAT I..." needs to be beaten with a dildo.

Now all of this stupid bullshiat that children have been so crippled by has grown out of something called the Self Esteem Movement. The Self Esteem Movement began in 1970, and I'm happy to say it has been a complete failure, because studies have repeatedly shown that having high self esteem does not improve grades, does not improve career achievement, it does not even lower the use of alcohol, and it most certainly does not reduce the incidence of violence, because as it turns out, extremely violent, aggressive people think very highly of themselves! Imagine that: sociopaths have high self esteem. Who woulda thunk? I love it when this happens, I love when these politically correct ideas crash and burn and end up in the shiat house. -- George Carlin


Such a loss.
 
2013-05-09 12:36:26 PM
Well I  am glad that was cleared up, I knew there was a good reason for all of this...continue on with your life good sir
 
2013-05-09 12:36:28 PM
There's decent enough scientific evidence that no one actually has free will, and that time as we experience it has always existed and will always exist, and that we are just perceiving our way through it.
 
2013-05-09 12:36:43 PM
All you in prison raise your dicks up for him if you agree.
 
2013-05-09 12:36:51 PM

Walker: He also said it was their own fault because they got in the car of a stranger.

I can't believe his brothers aren't being charged with anything. They all lived there didn't they? They never asked him "Hey bro, what's with all that screaming coming from the basement and who are these women who keep coming up out of the basement?". At the very least they are accomplices.


I dont understand why they let the brothers go either. It makes no sense. The only information I've seen about it just states that they let them go
 
2013-05-09 12:36:58 PM
... and when I moved in here, there were all these chains and ropes in the basement. I asked the real estate lady "What are these for?" and she said "These are for your sex slaves. City codes say you are allowed to have four at a time. No more." So I figured I was violating the law by not having any.
 
2013-05-09 12:37:23 PM
Statistical evidence suggests that the incidence of past childhood abuse among felons rose sharply around the time courts began acknowledging it as a mitigating factor.
 
2013-05-09 12:37:24 PM
Oh, no doubt the man would suggest there were mitigating circumstances, that he had an unhappy childhood or was driven by Compulsive Well-Poisoning Disorder. But I have a compulsion to behead cowardly murderers. - Terry Pratchett, "Jingo"
 
2013-05-09 12:37:24 PM

A Leaf in Fall: There's decent enough scientific evidence that no one actually has free will, and that time as we experience it has always existed and will always exist, and that we are just perceiving our way through it.


Oh shut the fark up.
 
2013-05-09 12:37:28 PM

spiderpaz: Walker: He also said it was their own fault because they got in the car of a stranger.

I can't believe his brothers aren't being charged with anything. They all lived there didn't they? They never asked him "Hey bro, what's with all that screaming coming from the basement and who are these women who keep coming up out of the basement?". At the very least they are accomplices.

That and the police reports of three men with naked women on leashes.  And the 3:3 man:woman ratio doesn't seem like a coincidence.  We'll find out soon enough when the victim's report comes out if they name the brothers as being present at any time.


Except there are no reports of naked women outside the interviewee's fantasy.

The police released records and if you don't believe them, just go look yourself.  Public information although you may have to pay for the privilege of talking to a clerk.
 
2013-05-09 12:38:04 PM

PapaChester: I personally believe that these guys are hundreds of times worse than the Boston bombers.


It takes a certain kind of evil to hold people for that long.  It's probably a lot of work to keep three people locked up for so long without dying.
 
2013-05-09 12:38:33 PM

spiderpaz: Walker: He also said it was their own fault because they got in the car of a stranger.

I can't believe his brothers aren't being charged with anything. They all lived there didn't they? They never asked him "Hey bro, what's with all that screaming coming from the basement and who are these women who keep coming up out of the basement?". At the very least they are accomplices.

That and the police reports of three men with naked women on leashes.  And the 3:3 man:woman ratio doesn't seem like a coincidence.  We'll find out soon enough when the victim's report comes out if they name the brothers as being present at any time.


I had that same thought. I can't imagine why they would possible release them so quickly with so many circumstances strongly suggesting they were in on it. OTOH I probably don't want to know. The details are already starting to make me ill.
 
2013-05-09 12:41:09 PM

Jument: spiderpaz: Walker: He also said it was their own fault because they got in the car of a stranger.

I can't believe his brothers aren't being charged with anything. They all lived there didn't they? They never asked him "Hey bro, what's with all that screaming coming from the basement and who are these women who keep coming up out of the basement?". At the very least they are accomplices.

That and the police reports of three men with naked women on leashes.  And the 3:3 man:woman ratio doesn't seem like a coincidence.  We'll find out soon enough when the victim's report comes out if they name the brothers as being present at any time.

I had that same thought. I can't imagine why they would possible release them so quickly with so many circumstances strongly suggesting they were in on it. OTOH I probably don't want to know. The details are already starting to make me ill.


What I heard and read is that the women said the brothers weren't involved, and there is no evidence they did. They were with him when he got arrested at McDONALDS, and got arrested too.

/Having a Big Mac right now
 
2013-05-09 12:41:41 PM
It's a fair cop but I blame society.

Then we'll take in society.
 
2013-05-09 12:43:57 PM

WhoGAS: Except there are no reports of naked women outside the interviewee's fantasy.


Not sure is serious but from the USA Today article:

Elsie Cintron, who lives three houses away, said her daughter once saw a naked woman crawling on her hands and knees in the backyard several years ago and called police. "But they didn't take it seriously," she said.

Israel Lugo said he, his family and neighbors called police three times between 2011 and 2012 after seeing disturbing things at the home of Ariel Castro. Lugo lives two houses down from Castro and grew suspicious after neighbors reported seeing naked women on leashes crawling on all fours behind Castro's house.

A third call came from neighborhood women who lived in an apartment building. Those women told Lugo they called police because they saw three young girls crawling on all fours naked with dog leashes around their necks. Three men were controlling them in the backyard. The women told Lugo they waited two hours but police never responded to the calls.
 
2013-05-09 12:44:34 PM
that poor poor man, come on guys we should forgive him, he was abused so that makes it ok.  And he wanted to give all of his money to the victims.  He's not THAT bad.
 
2013-05-09 12:44:44 PM
those ladies had the free will to leave at any time
 
2013-05-09 12:47:08 PM
Walker

I can't believe his brothers aren't being charged with anything. They all lived there didn't they? They never asked him "Hey bro, what's with all that screaming coming from the basement and who are these women who keep coming up out of the basement?". At the very least they are accomplices.


I was surprised when I heard that on the news. I'm guessing they rolled on the brother in exchange for getting their charges dropped/reduced and/or they may know what happened the the fourth girl.
 
2013-05-09 12:48:38 PM

NutWrench: WhoGAS: Except there are no reports of naked women outside the interviewee's fantasy.

Not sure is serious but from the USA Today article:

Elsie Cintron, who lives three houses away, said her daughter once saw a naked woman crawling on her hands and knees in the backyard several years ago and called police. "But they didn't take it seriously," she said.

Israel Lugo said he, his family and neighbors called police three times between 2011 and 2012 after seeing disturbing things at the home of Ariel Castro. Lugo lives two houses down from Castro and grew suspicious after neighbors reported seeing naked women on leashes crawling on all fours behind Castro's house.

A third call came from neighborhood women who lived in an apartment building. Those women told Lugo they called police because they saw three young girls crawling on all fours naked with dog leashes around their necks. Three men were controlling them in the backyard. The women told Lugo they waited two hours but police never responded to the calls.


There is a serious problem with that.... the girls have said that his brothers were not involved.
Once again, the brothers are not involved.

And, the girls never said that such happened to them. I said that the girls never said such happened to them.

Please stop with the bullshiat reporting.
 
2013-05-09 12:49:26 PM
Can we trade the Castro brothers for  Kenneth Bae? That's 3 labor camp workers for one.
 
2013-05-09 12:49:35 PM

NutWrench: WhoGAS: Except there are no reports of naked women outside the interviewee's fantasy.

Not sure is serious but from the USA Today article:

Elsie Cintron, who lives three houses away, said her daughter once saw a naked woman crawling on her hands and knees in the backyard several years ago and called police. "But they didn't take it seriously," she said.

Israel Lugo said he, his family and neighbors called police three times between 2011 and 2012 after seeing disturbing things at the home of Ariel Castro. Lugo lives two houses down from Castro and grew suspicious after neighbors reported seeing naked women on leashes crawling on all fours behind Castro's house.

A third call came from neighborhood women who lived in an apartment building. Those women told Lugo they called police because they saw three young girls crawling on all fours naked with dog leashes around their necks. Three men were controlling them in the backyard. The women told Lugo they waited two hours but police never responded to the calls.


Completely serious.

Look at the police records:

1 call for violence and 1 call for a kid being left on a school bus.

Without any evidence, those are just stories...not fact.  I'm not disputing they weren't seen, I'm disputing there were ever any police reports.

I'm not defending the police at all because if there was a profit motive for investigating harder, they would have.  As it is, unless profit is involved in some way or political clout, then the police couldn't care less.

But let's stick to facts and not emotions and rumor.
 
2013-05-09 12:49:41 PM

devilEther: those ladies had the free will to leave at any time


Deleted, forgotten. Please return the oxygen you just wasted with your shiat.
 
2013-05-09 12:49:45 PM

cman: NutWrench: WhoGAS: Except there are no reports of naked women outside the interviewee's fantasy.

Not sure is serious but from the USA Today article:

Elsie Cintron, who lives three houses away, said her daughter once saw a naked woman crawling on her hands and knees in the backyard several years ago and called police. "But they didn't take it seriously," she said.

Israel Lugo said he, his family and neighbors called police three times between 2011 and 2012 after seeing disturbing things at the home of Ariel Castro. Lugo lives two houses down from Castro and grew suspicious after neighbors reported seeing naked women on leashes crawling on all fours behind Castro's house.

A third call came from neighborhood women who lived in an apartment building. Those women told Lugo they called police because they saw three young girls crawling on all fours naked with dog leashes around their necks. Three men were controlling them in the backyard. The women told Lugo they waited two hours but police never responded to the calls.

There is a serious problem with that.... the girls have said that his brothers were not involved.
Once again, the brothers are not involved.

And, the girls never said that such happened to them. I said that the girls never said such happened to them.

Please stop with the bullshiat reporting.


The girls are filthy liars
 
2013-05-09 12:50:26 PM

Jument: spiderpaz: Walker: He also said it was their own fault because they got in the car of a stranger.

I can't believe his brothers aren't being charged with anything. They all lived there didn't they? They never asked him "Hey bro, what's with all that screaming coming from the basement and who are these women who keep coming up out of the basement?". At the very least they are accomplices.

That and the police reports of three men with naked women on leashes.  And the 3:3 man:woman ratio doesn't seem like a coincidence.  We'll find out soon enough when the victim's report comes out if they name the brothers as being present at any time.

I had that same thought. I can't imagine why they would possible release them so quickly with so many circumstances strongly suggesting they were in on it. OTOH I probably don't want to know. The details are already starting to make me ill.


No. Turns out the brothers both say they've never been inside the house, and their stories are corroborated by the victims, who are reported to have told police they never heard or saw anyone else during their time in the house. The brothers "look" like scum bags, and so when the police went to the mother's house to arrest Ariel they rounded up the two brothers, too, since they happened to be there. Guilt by association, as it were, but there is apparently NO evidence they were in on it. Time will tell, of course.
 
2013-05-09 12:51:02 PM

Walker: He also said it was their own fault because they got in the car of a stranger.

I can't believe his brothers aren't being charged with anything. They all lived there didn't they? They never asked him "Hey bro, what's with all that screaming coming from the basement and who are these women who keep coming up out of the basement?". At the very least they are accomplices.


One story claims the two brothers lived elsewhere and that he lived alone (well, except for his captives). Of course when a story like this breaks, there are always conflicting reports so we don't really know the truth yet.

Also, there was also an indication that there had been a fourth woman in the house at one point. My guess is it won't be long before they start digging up the back yard, and even though the brothers have been released for now, additional evidence may change that.
 
2013-05-09 12:51:49 PM
THEN IT'S HIS OWN DAMN FAULT THAT HE'S NOW IN JAIL AND SOON TO HAVE HIS ASS POUNDED RAW BY TWENTY BLACK CONVICTS.
 
2013-05-09 12:52:14 PM
Honestly to me that makes it way worse. The fact that he know what it's like and still goes around doing that shiat is worse than if he was just plain crazy.
 
2013-05-09 12:53:00 PM

louiedog: Can we trade the Castro brothers for  Kenneth Bae? That's 3 labor camp workers for one.


Okay, just saw the comment below mine with updated info that I hadn't heard. Just Ariel then.
 
2013-05-09 12:53:11 PM

Keeve: Walker: He also said it was their own fault because they got in the car of a stranger.

I can't believe his brothers aren't being charged with anything. They all lived there didn't they? They never asked him "Hey bro, what's with all that screaming coming from the basement and who are these women who keep coming up out of the basement?". At the very least they are accomplices.

One story claims the two brothers lived elsewhere and that he lived alone (well, except for his captives). Of course when a story like this breaks, there are always conflicting reports so we don't really know the truth yet.

Also, there was also an indication that there had been a fourth woman in the house at one point. My guess is it won't be long before they start digging up the back yard, and even though the brothers have been released for now, additional evidence may change that.


There has not been such an accusation made.

If it was credible, that kind of information (a fourth woman) would have been released at the press conference. Instead, we have a version spoken by a fathers-brothers-cousins-roommate
 
2013-05-09 12:53:14 PM
And notice the one girl never got pregnant. She was the smart one. She willed those sperm to neverland, or jumped up and down afterwards, so the one who got pregnant was clearly at fault. She wanted it to happen. She should bear this gentleman's punishment. The other girl is a hero, not that Chappelle like character eating all that McDiabetes.
 
2013-05-09 12:53:37 PM
The stupid, lamestream, MSM, drive-by media hasn't even asked what the girls were wearing when they were abducted. I mean, were they asking for it?

/getting my ducks in a row for my 2014 GOP Congressional campaign
 
2013-05-09 12:54:32 PM

NutWrench: WhoGAS: Except there are no reports of naked women outside the interviewee's fantasy.

Not sure is serious but from the USA Today article:

Elsie Cintron, who lives three houses away, said her daughter once saw a naked woman crawling on her hands and knees in the backyard several years ago and called police. "But they didn't take it seriously," she said.

Israel Lugo said he, his family and neighbors called police three times between 2011 and 2012 after seeing disturbing things at the home of Ariel Castro. Lugo lives two houses down from Castro and grew suspicious after neighbors reported seeing naked women on leashes crawling on all fours behind Castro's house.

A third call came from neighborhood women who lived in an apartment building. Those women told Lugo they called police because they saw three young girls crawling on all fours naked with dog leashes around their necks. Three men were controlling them in the backyard. The women told Lugo they waited two hours but police never responded to the calls.


Oh, and here's the back track on what you've been reading.  I know it's coming really fast, the information, so it's difficult to know the timeline.

"Upon researching our call intake system extensively, only two calls for service from police are shown at that address. One call was from the resident, Ariel Castro, reporting a fight in the street. The second call was in relation to an incident regarding Ariel Castro and his duties as a bus driver. "

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/05/police-apparently-mi ss ed-multiple-calls-about-women-dog-leashes-castros-yard/64987/

Just to help you not have to google.
 
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