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(Kickstarter)   Attention Nerd Parental Units: Farker's buddy's exceedingly cool tabletop game to get kids hooked and geeked early is Kickstarter's Project of the Day. Help a brother out   (kickstarter.com) divider line 11
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2013-05-09 11:31:09 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eden_Studios,_Inc.

The guy running this kickstarter already has a game publishing studio with several successful titles... this feels to me like someone going "hey, I have an idea, instead of having my successful studio invest all the up front money, I'll get the crowd to fund it and then I'll get 100% of the profit without that pesky 'cost' thing!"

I'm happy your buddy has a cool idea and all, but seriously, isn't this kind of exactly the opposite of what KickStarter was about?

Next up: George R. R. Martin's Kickstarter to help him write a novel?
2013-05-10 01:29:02 AM
1 votes:
Here's my idea and my plan for realizing it.

If you like it, help me pay for it.

If not enough of you want to help, maybe it's not such a good idea.

Don't fark up the beautiful Zen simplicity with your monkey-mind's pointless machinations.
2013-05-09 04:30:18 PM
1 votes:
Cagey B:

And another thing. The only reason we know that it's an established company doing this is because unlikely did a little research. I couldn't find a reference to Eden anywhere on the Kickstarter page. So they're faking the appearance of some guy doing a startup out of his garage or whatever. If people still find it worth it to put their money towards this after knowing all the facts, then whatever, but if the money they were going to donate is meant to give non-traditional ventures a chance, then they should go elsewhere.

Not subby, but Albany ex-pat who is a very vague acquaintance of George (met him about a decade ago through a mutual friend);

a) You couldn't be arsed to click "Full Bio" on the kickstarter page? Because it's right there in great detail. This isn't a conspiracy to hide shiat.

b) Eden Studios has ONLY done card games and pen and paper RPGs up until this point. They're book and mechanics designers. All you get is a hardcover book with some nice art and layouts, or a deck of cards. The manufacturing and delivery of a tabletop game with tokens and counters and boards and a box is just not the same thing - and the kickstarter is for $12k, which I wouldn't be shocked to find out just covers a minimum run of items.

c) Eden Studios is a garage shop. It's George and whoever he has helping out at the time. They have no online store. They distribute directly to literally 28 comic book stores, they dont run through Diamond. Their physical office is basically Zombie Planet in Albany (which is my favorite game store so far).
2013-05-09 04:01:05 PM
1 votes:

Mr. Fuzzypaws: medieval: The above parade of stupid comments about Kickstarter is what happens when people romanticize a web service, and think other people should refrain from using their pure, wholesome web service for purely ideological reasons, conformance to all site rules and policy be damned.

They do bring up a good question, though. Why does an established company need to Kickstart? Like DoubleFine and their Kickstarter, WTF, they should have publishers courting them, not the other way around. Seems odd to me.


Because if the crowd is willing to fund things, capitalism says that you utlilize that to reduce your own costs? No one forced anyone to donate to Double Fine, but people did.

That's like saying "I know you just sold a million copies of your CD, but your friend Ted is willing to finance the recording studio rental for your followup album!"

"Oh no thanks, I made some money so I'd rather pay out of pocket."

Kickstarter is just a platform, it isn't some morally pristine "only for those in need" system. If people will fund, why wouldn't you make use of that? Besides some flimsy emotional reason.
2013-05-09 02:43:28 PM
1 votes:
The above parade of stupid comments about Kickstarter is what happens when people romanticize a web service, and think other people should refrain from using their pure, wholesome web service for purely ideological reasons, conformance to all site rules and policy be damned.
2013-05-09 02:32:29 PM
1 votes:

Cagey B: unlikely: The guy running this kickstarter already has a game publishing studio with several successful titles... this feels to me like someone going "hey, I have an idea, instead of having my successful studio invest all the up front money, I'll get the crowd to fund it and then I'll get 100% of the profit without that pesky 'cost' thing!"

Yeah, this. I'm not forking over donations to an established operation with existing access to capital so that they can make even more money. And f*ck you for asking.


If you're getting a license or paid access for the end product in exchange for your Kickstarter contribution, is it really a "donation" or are you really "pre-ordering" your copy? If you get extra schwag for contributing more how is this different from buying a special boxed edition or DLC from a AAA publisher?

Kickstarter isn't necessarily for nonprofit start ups here. Public crowdsourcing necessarily is not farking charity.
2013-05-09 01:36:52 PM
1 votes:

unlikely: The guy running this kickstarter already has a game publishing studio with several successful titles... this feels to me like someone going "hey, I have an idea, instead of having my successful studio invest all the up front money, I'll get the crowd to fund it and then I'll get 100% of the profit without that pesky 'cost' thing!"


Yeah, this. I'm not forking over donations to an established operation with existing access to capital so that they can make even more money. And f*ck you for asking.
2013-05-09 01:28:51 PM
1 votes:
8 fully illustrated race cards

I DON'T WANT TO PLAY THE RACE CARD
2013-05-09 01:21:19 PM
1 votes:
Looks cool.  Thanks for posting.
2013-05-09 12:53:36 PM
1 votes:
Hey Subby, go shill elsewhere.

Oh, and fark YOU!!!!
2013-05-09 10:59:38 AM
1 votes:
That actually looks really cool.  Bookmarking till payday.
 
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