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(Kickstarter)   Attention Nerd Parental Units: Farker's buddy's exceedingly cool tabletop game to get kids hooked and geeked early is Kickstarter's Project of the Day. Help a brother out   (kickstarter.com) divider line 65
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2013-05-09 05:02:00 PM

Cagey B: I'm not sure where exaclty you're going with that ad hominem. So "indy" publishers never have the ability to raise funds without resorting to crowdsourcing? No tools are ever available to them? That's news to anyone alive before Kickstarter I suppose. And anyone who disagrees is a big dumb-head. Okay then.


That was not meant to be an ad hominem, I actually retyped that sentence to use the hypothetical "one" instead of the hypothetical "you" as I was afraid it would be interpretted that I wanted to flame you. I was not sure what your experience regarding start ups etc. was. Sorry I was not clearer etc.

If I'm flaming anyone, it's the people behind this game. And they deserve it. I'll admit to being mystified as to why someone would pick this particular project to donate to, but I'm not going to be all "stop liking what I don't like" to them.

Still getting that "stop liking what I don't like" vibe, not really seeing where they deserve scorn here. You make an excellent case for why you're not contributing yourself though.

Yes. I'm aware that established companies don't have unlimited access to credit. I certainly appreciate your condescending assumption that only you have done research, though. Here's the thing, though. If your aim in starting something like this is to highlight projects that would not ordin ...

I think others more aware of Epic etc. are better able to address this.
 
2013-05-09 05:48:58 PM
I am going to start a Kickstarter project. My project is to teach other kickstarter hopefuls how to attach a farking microphone to their bodies and connect it to the audio input of their cameras.

For each dollar pledged,, I promise to harass each indiviual Kickstarter proposal-maker into re-doing their proposal video with proper farking sound.
 
2013-05-09 06:32:32 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: Cagey B: unlikely: The guy running this kickstarter already has a game publishing studio with several successful titles... this feels to me like someone going "hey, I have an idea, instead of having my successful studio invest all the up front money, I'll get the crowd to fund it and then I'll get 100% of the profit without that pesky 'cost' thing!"

Yeah, this. I'm not forking over donations to an established operation with existing access to capital so that they can make even more money. And f*ck you for asking.

If you're getting a license or paid access for the end product in exchange for your Kickstarter contribution, is it really a "donation" or are you really "pre-ordering" your copy? If you get extra schwag for contributing more how is this different from buying a special boxed edition or DLC from a AAA publisher?

Kickstarter isn't necessarily for nonprofit start ups here. Public crowdsourcing necessarily is not farking charity.


Some use it as a preorder engine. These are usually the ones from larger companies, and the stretch goals tend to be fairly generous. Some smaller companies really need the funding to get things going. It allows a project to get started without being saddled with a bunch of debt from day one.

On the consumer end there are 2 ways to look at it:

Do I really love the project and am I willing to allocate funds to something thats still in the design phase, sometimes at or near full retail price?

I like the project, and they are offering a better than retail price, with the free or cheap stretch goals adding frosting to the cake.

Sometimes its a bit of both. Ive backed a few projects, and so far its been good. One thing to remember, there are almost always delays, so take the estimated time of delivery with a grain of salt.
 
2013-05-09 07:12:57 PM
Considering that many design houses are trapped by the Big Publisher catch-22 feedback circle, I don't see a problem with them using Kickstarter.

Either they get the funds up front to do the work (and they're assured there's a market), or they don't and they don't bother making what would end up failing commercially.

Why do you guys hate taking out the middleman publisher?
 
2013-05-09 08:44:59 PM

TheFark5000: On topic of role-playing - anyone have a recommendation for simple (and quick starting) game for two people?  I liked most of the parts of D&D, just not the need for groups, a DM or pretending.  Most of the game websites are blocked at work.


Fiasco might be up your alley:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXJxQ0NbFtk
 
2013-05-09 09:34:29 PM

Any Pie Left: I am going to start a Kickstarter project. My project is to teach other kickstarter hopefuls how to attach a farking microphone to their bodies and connect it to the audio input of their cameras.

For each dollar pledged,, I promise to harass each indiviual Kickstarter proposal-maker into re-doing their proposal video with proper farking sound.


What is your top pledge tier? Put me down for double that amount.
 
2013-05-09 10:27:08 PM

Summercat: Considering that many design houses are trapped by the Big Publisher catch-22 feedback circle, I don't see a problem with them using Kickstarter.

Either they get the funds up front to do the work (and they're assured there's a market), or they don't and they don't bother making what would end up failing commercially.

Why do you guys hate taking out the middleman publisher?


Because it's not the really real grassroots guerrilla anarchist funding project that I imagine it to be. Since Kickstarter doesn't conform to my own personal ideals it constantly infuriates me.
 
2013-05-09 11:01:20 PM

odinsposse: Summercat: Considering that many design houses are trapped by the Big Publisher catch-22 feedback circle, I don't see a problem with them using Kickstarter.

Either they get the funds up front to do the work (and they're assured there's a market), or they don't and they don't bother making what would end up failing commercially.

Why do you guys hate taking out the middleman publisher?

Because it's not the really real grassroots guerrilla anarchist funding project that I imagine it to be. Since Kickstarter doesn't conform to my own personal ideals it constantly infuriates me.


I *love* Kickstarter, and wouldn't mind if big developer companies used it or similar concepts more often to cut out the publisher.

We're already heading in that direction anyhow. How many indie games can you preorder and get alpha/beta access? I've done that for quite a few games myself.

I even have a failed Kickstarter. Was going good, but then I got caught and shut down because I missed the "No energy drink" rule. :(

/The product is good
//I just don't have a good *venue*
 
2013-05-09 11:11:34 PM
It looks pretty cool. However, I still believe kids should all start roleplaying with Dungeon! or TOON.

www.use.com


www.sjgames.com
 
2013-05-09 11:15:35 PM

TheFark5000: On topic of role-playing - anyone have a recommendation for simple (and quick starting) game for two people?  I liked most of the parts of D&D, just not the need for groups, a DM or pretending.  Most of the game websites are blocked at work.


If you can get it (It's out of print) the  Dungeon! game I mentioned above would be perfect. It has all the D&D staples, is based on First Edition rules, but it's simplified into a board game format.

I'd also recommend HeroQuest. It's pretty cool... If you can find it.

25.media.tumblr.com

f5games.com
 
2013-05-10 01:29:02 AM
Here's my idea and my plan for realizing it.

If you like it, help me pay for it.

If not enough of you want to help, maybe it's not such a good idea.

Don't fark up the beautiful Zen simplicity with your monkey-mind's pointless machinations.
 
2013-05-10 03:07:29 AM
well...looks like it got funded. congrats, i guess
 
2013-05-10 07:55:24 AM

ZeroCorpse: If you can get it (It's out of print) the Dungeon! game I mentioned above would be perfect. It has all the D&D staples, is based on First Edition rules, but it's simplified into a board game format.


It's back in print.  I just picked it up a few weeks ago.  It plays pretty well with younger kids too.

http://www.amazon.com/Wizards-of-the-Coast-A12900000WOC/dp/078696298 4
 
2013-05-10 10:56:09 AM
Attention Nerd Parental Units

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2013-05-10 01:41:50 PM
uggg. hopefully subby aint that suspender wearing farktard in the middle of the boring ass video
 
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