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2013-05-09 09:16:43 AM  
Fark, man - Houdini was exposing these guys as utter frauds back in the 1910s. Why are we still so stupid as to believe these charlatans?
 
2013-05-09 09:41:06 AM  

RexTalionis: Fark, man - Houdini was exposing these guys as utter frauds back in the 1910s. Why are we still so stupid as to believe these charlatans?


Because somebody, somewhere is always stupid enough to say "well, most of them are fakes and frauds, but that guy there, he's the real thing".

Or even more stupid, "just because every psychic or medium who has ever been tested under conditions that preclude cheating has been exposed as a liar or deluded doesn't mean that the ones who haven't been tested aren't the real deal."

My hobby is sending copies of Nightmare Alley to popular psychics.
 
2013-05-09 09:49:28 AM  

czetie: RexTalionis: Fark, man - Houdini was exposing these guys as utter frauds back in the 1910s. Why are we still so stupid as to believe these charlatans?

Because somebody, somewhere is always stupid enough to say "well, most of them are fakes and frauds, but that guy there, he's the real thing".

Or even more stupid, "just because every psychic or medium who has ever been tested under conditions that preclude cheating has been exposed as a liar or deluded doesn't mean that the ones who haven't been tested aren't the real deal."

My hobby is sending copies of Nightmare Alley to popular psychics.


Yeah, but now, we can make it sound scientific by saying "quantum" a bunch of times and claiming that psychics and religious people can make their brains light up in an MRI, so it's totally different now.
 
2013-05-09 09:50:42 AM  
But - but - but what about J.B. Rhine's studies, at Duke?

/and Bill Murray's riff on that in "Ghostbusters?"

//I know; Duke sucks
 
2013-05-09 09:52:56 AM  
"As I frequently attend spiritualistic seances, where materialized spirits are said to come out of a cabinet, I wonder if I would be breaking any law if I fired a pistol shot at one of these figures and a dead body was found on the floor."
 
2013-05-09 09:52:57 AM  
I guess she didn't see that this is a repeat either.
 
2013-05-09 09:54:03 AM  
this is important? what Diane Sawyer thinks of Miss Cleo?
 
2013-05-09 09:55:04 AM  
www.prairieghosts.com
i1179.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-09 09:57:26 AM  

czetie: Because somebody, somewhere is always stupid enough to say "well, most of them are fakes and frauds, but that guy there, he's the real thing".


That is basically the "logic" people go through when re-electing their Congressman.
 
GBB
2013-05-09 10:01:30 AM  
TFA: In July 1979, 24-year-old Penn State graduate Carol Jursik went missing in Monroeville, Pa., after going out for a jog.Freeman said he got a call from a woman who claimed to be psychic. She said Jursik was dead, and then gave a general description of where her body was dumped."She's in a wooded area. You can look up and see the houses above. I see a blue van and I see a blue leaping dolphin," the woman told him.The next day, police were alerted to a body of a woman in a park. She had been stabbed once in the chest."It was our jogger," Freeman said. "It was in a place where you could see houses higher up. What was shocking to me was that on the label of her shirt was a blue leaping dolphin."During a news conference, police asked the supposed psychic to call back. She never did.
To this day, Jursik's death remains unsolved.


That's because you got a call from the suspect, Gene.
 
2013-05-09 10:03:18 AM  
danielakawmd.files.wordpress.com
It's all a con.  Trust me on this.
 
2013-05-09 10:04:11 AM  
There. Is. No. Such. Thing. As. "Magic."
 
2013-05-09 10:06:39 AM  

Martian_Astronomer: Yeah, but now, we can make it sound scientific by saying "quantum" a bunch of times and claiming that psychics and religious people can make their brains light up in an MRI, so it's totally different now.


Turn of the century spirit mediums used the scientific buzzwords of the day too. They talked about waves and energy and ectoplasm as the residue of spirits. Nothing new here.
 
2013-05-09 10:07:14 AM  
Sylvia Browne told the mother of one of those Cleveland girls that her daughter was dead on national TV.

/the surest bet isnt always the right one.
 
2013-05-09 10:08:27 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Martian_Astronomer: Yeah, but now, we can make it sound scientific by saying "quantum" a bunch of times and claiming that psychics and religious people can make their brains light up in an MRI, so it's totally different now.

Turn of the century spirit mediums used the scientific buzzwords of the day too. They talked about waves and energy and ectoplasm as the residue of spirits. Nothing new here.


hootingyard.org

Back in the day, mediums would stuff a tiny ball of rolled up cheesecloth in their cheeks so that, during their performance, they can start pulling it out - the slimy cheesecloth being the "ectoplasm."
 
2013-05-09 10:09:46 AM  
I'm always super cynical/skeptical about psychics or mediums, but after watching a few episodes of Long Island Medium (with Theresa Caputo) I was convinced she was the real deal.  I would have never went out of my way to watch any episodes, but my wife was really into it, and I was being super skeptical about it, and she said "just watch an episode or two and come back to me"
 
2013-05-09 10:13:15 AM  

CrazyCracka420: I'm always super cynical/skeptical about psychics or mediums, but after watching a few episodes of Long Island Medium (with Theresa Caputo) I was convinced she was the real deal.  I would have never went out of my way to watch any episodes, but my wife was really into it, and I was being super skeptical about it, and she said "just watch an episode or two and come back to me"


I just. Don't even. Wow.
 
2013-05-09 10:17:01 AM  
One thing I like to mention as evidence that psychics are fake is the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge which offers a prize of "one million U.S. dollars to anyone who can demonstrate a supernatural or paranormal ability under agreed-upon scientific testing criteria. Over a thousand people have applied to take the challenge, but none have yet been successful"
 
2013-05-09 10:20:34 AM  

Tigger: CrazyCracka420: I'm always super cynical/skeptical about psychics or mediums, but after watching a few episodes of Long Island Medium (with Theresa Caputo) I was convinced she was the real deal.  I would have never went out of my way to watch any episodes, but my wife was really into it, and I was being super skeptical about it, and she said "just watch an episode or two and come back to me"

I just. Don't even. Wow.


Just check his handle
 
2013-05-09 10:29:36 AM  
You notice that psychics and mediums never foresee the future and invent the next iPhone or computer chip. None of this "In the future I see that If I dope graphene with this specific mixture of sodium and neodymium, it makes a transistor twice as fast as the anything we have today!"

Oh no, it's "You are going to fall in love, and suffer a great tragedy, and find that thing you lost in the last place you look!"
 
2013-05-09 10:31:29 AM  

weirdneighbour: Tigger: CrazyCracka420: I'm always super cynical/skeptical about psychics or mediums, but after watching a few episodes of Long Island Medium (with Theresa Caputo) I was convinced she was the real deal.  I would have never went out of my way to watch any episodes, but my wife was really into it, and I was being super skeptical about it, and she said "just watch an episode or two and come back to me"

I just. Don't even. Wow.

Just check his handle


Like I said, I was extremely skeptical and went in watching the episodes looking for the "ahah" moment.  So unless you've seen it, your opinion is invalid.
 
2013-05-09 10:33:54 AM  

Madbassist1: Sylvia Browne told the mother of one of those Cleveland girls that her daughter was dead on national TV.

/the surest bet isnt always the right one.


Yes, but she did say that the killer most likely eats ribs with his neighbor.
 
2013-05-09 10:35:47 AM  
You never see a psychic win the lottery.  But your average weather guy can use a pile of data, supercomputers and science to tell you when it'll rain days in advance.
 
2013-05-09 10:37:50 AM  
Only the New York Daily News (or the Post) have a readership that is so dumb they wonder whether psychics have amazing paranormal powers or not.

Why there are so many legal ways to steal from poor morons?

If the original article was too long for you, I have a condensed version available below:

DERP!
 
2013-05-09 10:38:38 AM  
doctore.blog.is

But he looks so legit.
 
2013-05-09 10:39:33 AM  

Snarfangel: You notice that psychics and mediums never foresee the future and invent the next iPhone or computer chip. None of this "In the future I see that If I dope graphene with this specific mixture of sodium and neodymium, it makes a transistor twice as fast as the anything we have today!"

Oh no, it's "You are going to fall in love, and suffer a great tragedy, and find that thing you lost in the last place you look!"


Yep. Or telling someone that they're worried about their love life, health, or money.

And someone already mentioned Randi.
 
2013-05-09 10:39:46 AM  

HAMMERTOE: There. Is. No. Such. Thing. As. "Magic."


Also, no post on Sundays.
 
2013-05-09 10:41:04 AM  
People actually take these clowns seriously?

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2013-05-09 10:41:12 AM  

Tigger: CrazyCracka420: I'm always super cynical/skeptical about psychics or mediums, but after watching a few episodes of Long Island Medium (with Theresa Caputo) I was convinced she was the real deal.  I would have never went out of my way to watch any episodes, but my wife was really into it, and I was being super skeptical about it, and she said "just watch an episode or two and come back to me"

I just. Don't even. Wow.


Dude, it was on the TeeVee.  You can't lie on the TeeVee.

/'specially not these new flat screens
//too narrow
 
2013-05-09 10:41:26 AM  
Real psychics go to casinos and keep their damn mouths shut about it.
 
2013-05-09 10:43:32 AM  

FunkOut: Real psychics go to casinos and keep their damn mouths shut about it.


What happens in Vegas, should stay in Vegas
 
2013-05-09 10:46:26 AM  

Madbassist1: Sylvia Browne told the mother of one of those Cleveland girls that her daughter was dead on national TV.

/the surest bet isnt always the right one.


You got it all wrong. Technically, she was correct. She was receiving the aura from her hair and nails...or her spirit had died inside of her..or was receiving telepathic information from one of her failed births...or was lying just so she could profit from the misfortune of others.

Yeah. One of those.

\Some of them are no different than those Nigerian scammers.
 
2013-05-09 10:55:47 AM  
You mean she didn't see this coming?

/some psychic powers SHE has!
 
2013-05-09 10:55:48 AM  
On a lark, I had a reading done by a "psychic" with a fabulous reputation.  I put on my best poker face and offered very little information.  She was very, very good but it was still obvious that she was great at perceiving the slightest expression change and expouding on that, while throwing out and disregarding scads of information that did not get a reaction.  She was very accurate as long as you disregarded the four misses she had for every one hit of semi-true info, but I did truly admire her cold reading skills.  In conclusion, unless somebody you've never seen before grabs your hand and tells you something about your mother who survived the concentration camp and is alive unbeknownst to you, Johnny Smith-style, that Randi prize is going to continue to go unclaimed.
 
2013-05-09 10:56:17 AM  

CrazyCracka420: I'm always super cynical/skeptical about psychics or mediums, but after watching a few episodes of Long Island Medium (with Theresa Caputo) I was convinced she was the real deal.  I would have never went out of my way to watch any episodes, but my wife was really into it, and I was being super skeptical about it, and she said "just watch an episode or two and come back to me"


10/10. Beautiful subtlety.
 
2013-05-09 10:58:03 AM  
Apparently the Howard Stern show reached out to the Long Island Medium to come on and do cold reads and was told the only way she'd appear is if she got 45 off-camera minutes with each "cold read" before air.

One of my friends married a girl who totally bought all this shiat. She used to pay tons of money to get crystal aura readings and had -- and I am not making this up -- a "Professional Regressionist" to "help bring her past lives together" for $90/visit.

I did find it curious that all of her alleged past lives were things like "Warrior Knight" and "High Priestess" and "Nefarious Pirate Captain" (after the Depp movies came out, too) -- apparently nobody shoveled horse shiat or eked out an existence as an illiterate turnip farmer who died of syphilis back in the day.
 
2013-05-09 10:59:58 AM  

TV's Vinnie: [doctore.blog.is image 593x445]

But he looks so legit.


I've always admired his Bichon Frise haircut.

images.akc.org
 
2013-05-09 11:01:30 AM  

MsStatement: On a lark, I had a reading done by a "psychic" with a fabulous reputation.  I put on my best poker face and offered very little information.  She was very, very good but it was still obvious that she was great at perceiving the slightest expression change and expouding on that, while throwing out and disregarding scads of information that did not get a reaction.  She was very accurate as long as you disregarded the four misses she had for every one hit of semi-true info, but I did truly admire her cold reading skills.  In conclusion, unless somebody you've never seen before grabs your hand and tells you something about your mother who survived the concentration camp and is alive unbeknownst to you, Johnny Smith-style, that Randi prize is going to continue to go unclaimed.


Even in that case, I wouldn't trust it. It's amazing how easy it is to find some information about someone and give a hot read that looks like it's on the fly.
 
2013-05-09 11:08:43 AM  
I see you can still buy tickets for Sylvia Brown's May 30th appearance where she'll do some "live readings".... I'd have thought she might reschedule that show. But maybe she knows it will be okay for her.
 
2013-05-09 11:10:13 AM  
its buzzo from the melvins
 
2013-05-09 11:16:16 AM  

GBB: TFA: In July 1979, 24-year-old Penn State graduate Carol Jursik went missing in Monroeville, Pa., after going out for a jog.Freeman said he got a call from a woman who claimed to be psychic. She said Jursik was dead, and then gave a general description of where her body was dumped."She's in a wooded area. You can look up and see the houses above. I see a blue van and I see a blue leaping dolphin," the woman told him.The next day, police were alerted to a body of a woman in a park. She had been stabbed once in the chest."It was our jogger," Freeman said. "It was in a place where you could see houses higher up. What was shocking to me was that on the label of her shirt was a blue leaping dolphin."During a news conference, police asked the supposed psychic to call back. She never did.
To this day, Jursik's death remains unsolved.

That's because you got a call from the suspect, Gene.


It was either the murderer, a witness or someone who stumbled across the body is my take.
 
2013-05-09 11:21:35 AM  
Psychics are nothing more than charlatans and frauds that prey upon people's gullibility and ignorance.  Period.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to be late to my church's bible study.
 
2013-05-09 11:22:07 AM  

CrazyCracka420: weirdneighbour: Tigger: CrazyCracka420: I'm always super cynical/skeptical about psychics or mediums, but after watching a few episodes of Long Island Medium (with Theresa Caputo) I was convinced she was the real deal.  I would have never went out of my way to watch any episodes, but my wife was really into it, and I was being super skeptical about it, and she said "just watch an episode or two and come back to me"

I just. Don't even. Wow.

Just check his handle

Like I said, I was extremely skeptical and went in watching the episodes looking for the "ahah" moment.  So unless you've seen it, your opinion is invalid.


It's a TV SHOW YOU MORON.

Look, nuns don't fly, horses don't talk, there are no such things as furry aliens from the planet melmac that eat cats. It's television. You are literally seeing what the television producers want you to see.

How much of a simp are you, really?
 
2013-05-09 11:23:17 AM  
I dunno, that show Long Island Medium is interesting
 
2013-05-09 11:25:09 AM  

HAMMERTOE: There. Is. No. Such. Thing. As. "Magic."


Oh.  There's magic.  David Copperfield does it, for example.  They're called tricks, and they always have an explanation.

There's just no such thing as supernatural magic.
 
2013-05-09 11:25:21 AM  
Each Jan 1, lots of psychics make predictions for the upcoming year. I wonder how many of them predicted this event. Probably the same number who predicted that meteor hitting Russia, the Boston marathon bombing, or any of the year's other major surprises.
 
2013-05-09 11:26:05 AM  

CrazyCracka420: weirdneighbour: Tigger: CrazyCracka420: I'm always super cynical/skeptical about psychics or mediums, but after watching a few episodes of Long Island Medium (with Theresa Caputo) I was convinced she was the real deal.  I would have never went out of my way to watch any episodes, but my wife was really into it, and I was being super skeptical about it, and she said "just watch an episode or two and come back to me"

I just. Don't even. Wow.

Just check his handle

Like I said, I was extremely skeptical and went in watching the episodes looking for the "ahah" moment.  So unless you've seen it, your opinion is invalid.


I don't need to visit every county in the United States to know that none of them have a unicorn living there.

I don't need to watch every psychic to know that none of them have supernatural powers
 
2013-05-09 11:27:08 AM  

Ivo Shandor: Each Jan 1, lots of psychics make predictions for the upcoming year. I wonder how many of them predicted this event. Probably the same number who predicted that meteor hitting Russia, the Boston marathon bombing, or any of the year's other major surprises.


If you're vague enough about it, you can predict anything.
 
2013-05-09 11:29:45 AM  

Vodka Zombie: They're called tricks


Illusions, Vodka Zombie. Tricks are what whores do for money.

/Actually, the technical term is "effect," if I recall correctly.
 
2013-05-09 11:31:00 AM  

TwistedFark: CrazyCracka420: weirdneighbour: Tigger: CrazyCracka420: I'm always super cynical/skeptical about psychics or mediums, but after watching a few episodes of Long Island Medium (with Theresa Caputo) I was convinced she was the real deal.  I would have never went out of my way to watch any episodes, but my wife was really into it, and I was being super skeptical about it, and she said "just watch an episode or two and come back to me"

I just. Don't even. Wow.

Just check his handle

Like I said, I was extremely skeptical and went in watching the episodes looking for the "ahah" moment.  So unless you've seen it, your opinion is invalid.

It's a TV SHOW YOU MORON.

Look, nuns don't fly, horses don't talk, there are no such things as furry aliens from the planet melmac that eat cats. It's television. You are literally seeing what the television producers want you to see.

How much of a simp are you, really?


But ... it's REALITY tv, so it HAS to be real, right?

/lol
 
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