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(Slate)   "Only a fool would use Google Glass to spy on people." Well, only idiots would wear them   (slate.com) divider line 78
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2013-05-09 11:28:09 AM  

pkellmey: So, how comfortable is the hole in that tree stump you're living in?


What the fark are you even trying to say?

* Housing has an overwhelming need, hence I have a house. If you were trying to draw a parallel between something for which there is a fundamental need, and a mobile ad-serving platform (note: Google said third-party devs can't serve ads; they never said they won't serve their own) then you failed.

* If you were trying to suggest I don't want it because I can't afford a house, let alone a mobile ad-serving platform, then you're wrong. I could very easily afford it.

/and before you suggest I'm just anti-Android, I happen to have four tablets (Nexus 10, two x Asus Transformer TF101 with docks, and Fuhu Nabi 2), plus three Android smartphones (HTC One X+, HTC One X, and Samsung Galaxy Ace). I have precisely one Apple product (iPhone, could care less which version) which is only in the house because my wife's company requires her to carry one
//if you were trying to suggest something else, maybe just come out and say it rather than posting cryptic nonsense
 
2013-05-09 11:30:19 AM  

waterrockets: gweilo8888: Nightsweat: If they come out at $200 Subby will have them by 2015.

If they came out at $20 I wouldn't take one, because it's a product without an overwhelming need. (And it looks utterly idiotic.)

/not subby

Any judgement on how idiotic they look should be reserved for when a product is released. I can't believe how dense people are on the subject of how Glass looks as an R&D platform.


To be fair, it effectively is the final product. It's almost entirely battery, which if anything they're going to have to increase in size given its reported 2-4 hour battery life.

I actually suspect Google will end up massively subsidizing Glass in the end. It was born as a way to increase the number of data points they can map, not as a device filling a need. The only way they'll get their data points is if they subsidize it and sell it as a toy, which is exactly what it is.
 
2013-05-09 11:30:24 AM  

gweilo8888: waterrockets: gweilo8888: Nightsweat: If they come out at $200 Subby will have them by 2015.

If they came out at $20 I wouldn't take one, because it's a product without an overwhelming need. (And it looks utterly idiotic.)

/not subby

Any judgement on how idiotic they look should be reserved for when a product is released. I can't believe how dense people are on the subject of how Glass looks as an R&D platform.

Whether it's still in R&D matters not one iota to how idiotic they look. Wearing prescription-free plain glasses or something that looks like glasses with the lenses missing is idiotic. Unless they change the form factor entirely -- in which case it will be a totally different product -- it is idiotic and you'll look like a vapid nerd wearing it.



but, I AM a vapid nerd.

/want
 
2013-05-09 11:37:12 AM  

digistil: To be fair, it effectively is the final product. It's almost entirely battery, which if anything they're going to have to increase in size given its reported 2-4 hour battery life.

I actually suspect Google will end up massively subsidizing Glass in the end. It was born as a way to increase the number of data points they can map, not as a device filling a need. The only way they'll get their data points is if they subsidize it and sell it as a toy, which is exactly what it is.


This. And it's still going to be a massive failure. They'll become popular with the nerd set, briefly. Then you'll stop seeing them anywhere, once the initial excitement wears off and people realize just how tedious and pointless the idea is.
 
2013-05-09 11:42:52 AM  

gweilo8888: digistil: To be fair, it effectively is the final product. It's almost entirely battery, which if anything they're going to have to increase in size given its reported 2-4 hour battery life.

I actually suspect Google will end up massively subsidizing Glass in the end. It was born as a way to increase the number of data points they can map, not as a device filling a need. The only way they'll get their data points is if they subsidize it and sell it as a toy, which is exactly what it is.

This. And it's still going to be a massive failure. They'll become popular with the nerd set, briefly. Then you'll stop seeing them anywhere, once the initial excitement wears off and people realize just how tedious and pointless the idea is.


Couldn't you watch movies at your desk all day and nobody'd be the wiser?
 
2013-05-09 11:51:42 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Couldn't you watch movies at your desk all day and nobody'd be the wiser?


No, because:

a) The resolution is pathetically low (believed to be 640 x 360 pixels), which would be much like watching a naff YouTube video.
b) That low-res display is also tiny, occupying only a very small portion of your field of view. So it's like watching a naff YouTube video on somebody else's monitor from halfway across the office.
c) That tiny, low-res display is also partially translucent, so you can see whatever's behind it, *through* it. Unless you have a convenient dark spot you can stare at, it'll be like looking at a reflection of somebody else's monitor in your office window. (Except the right way around).
d) You'd need to have headphones in
e) It would be blindingly obvious to everybody around that you had your idiotic looking "glasses" on and headphones in, and were staring fixedly and somewhat cross-eyed and above your typical field of vision, at a dark spot on your desk.

You'd be that guy who thought he was being so subtle, but everybody in the office knew what he was doing.
 
2013-05-09 11:52:19 AM  
Incidentally, look here to see what you'd be trying to watch your movie on:

http://www.dvice.com/2013-5-8/video-what-you-really-see-when-you-loo k- through-google-glass
 
2013-05-09 12:21:07 PM  
tng.trekcore.com
 
2013-05-09 12:30:10 PM  
static.giantbomb.com
 
2013-05-09 01:05:00 PM  

WTF Indeed: Google Glass will come out, fail to attract a wide audience, disappear, then in three years hipsters will wear it ironically.


I dunno, I kind of like the concept - having a HUD in video games has always been helpful, for example. I just don't particularly like their execution.
 
2013-05-09 01:37:50 PM  

WTF Indeed: Google Glass will come out, fail to attract a wide audience, disappear, then in three years hipsters will wear it ironically.


Close, but no banana. The truth:

"Google Glass will come out, fail to attract a wide audience, disappear, then in three years hipsters will wear it ironically be up in arms when Google disables the backend supporting Glass because it's not profitable, and leaves the hipsters with an even-more-useless pile of junk."
 
2013-05-09 01:54:02 PM  

gweilo8888: Oh, puh-lease. We actually own the exact same pen linked from the article. (Mrs. Gweilo likes mystery shopping, and was given it for a shop, then told to keep it.)

It could not be any more blindingly obvious that it was anything but a pen. For one, there's the gaping maw of the lens. For another, it's clearly not a normal pen from the look of the button on the top of it. And then there's the blue light that shines on the back of it when it's recording, which I had to camouflage because it just about lights the room up. Not to mention that the pen itself is about as thick as my thumb. (It has to be, to fit a full-sized USB jack plus circuit board and power source inside the confines of the pen body.

I'd be willing to bet the other two "spy" devices are equally obvious to all and sundry.

I'm not saying proper spy gear doesn't exist, I'm just saying that very little of it is available to the public. It's *all* just as obvious as the retarded-looking Google Glass.


This.

There are high quality spying devices available to the general public, but they suffer from terrible performance issues.  Power life, record time, transmit range, all AWFUL on anything small enough to conceal.  Now, you can do what the pros do, take a spy device, remove the casing, flashing, battery and everything else you don't have to have to make it work, and then install it in the bezel of a monitor, or keyboard, or car, or etc, and then use parasite power to make it work.

Of course, in this day and age, all I need is ten minutes alone with your smart phone and I'll know everything you do, every place you go and everything you say while there.  Copies of all your mail, text, phone calls, voice mails etc.  All that takes is some software, and I have flavors for YOUR phone.
 
2013-05-09 02:31:56 PM  

gweilo8888: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Couldn't you watch movies at your desk all day and nobody'd be the wiser?

No, because:

a) The resolution is pathetically low (believed to be 640 x 360 pixels), which would be much like watching a naff YouTube video.
b) That low-res display is also tiny, occupying only a very small portion of your field of view. So it's like watching a naff YouTube video on somebody else's monitor from halfway across the office.
c) That tiny, low-res display is also partially translucent, so you can see whatever's behind it, *through* it. Unless you have a convenient dark spot you can stare at, it'll be like looking at a reflection of somebody else's monitor in your office window. (Except the right way around).
d) You'd need to have headphones in
e) It would be blindingly obvious to everybody around that you had your idiotic looking "glasses" on and headphones in, and were staring fixedly and somewhat cross-eyed and above your typical field of vision, at a dark spot on your desk.

You'd be that guy who thought he was being so subtle, but everybody in the office knew what he was doing.


I worked with someone like that before. She would tilt her monitor to the right so nobody could see her not working. But everyone knew anyways. The best was when she put in a requisition for one of those screen blockers that can only be viewed from dead on. They fired her a little while after that.
 
2013-05-09 02:43:35 PM  

groppet: I worked with someone like that before. She would tilt her monitor to the right so nobody could see her not working. But everyone knew anyways. The best was when she put in a requisition for one of those screen blockers that can only be viewed from dead on. They fired her a little while after that.


I think every office has one.

/most Farkers probably *are* one
 
2013-05-09 04:19:48 PM  

ciberido: lack of warmth: Another Pretentious Nickname: I don't understand how this would be spy technology.  By definition you can already see the thing you're 'spying' on.  It's not x-ray vision.

Um... right?

That's what I am wondering.  They discussed privacy issues in the article and I am perplexed why would you think you have privacy in the first place with someone looking right at you to begin with.

Mmm, there is only one person looking at me, so I have the privacy to scratch myself an no one will be the wiser.  Oh no, he was recording and now my privacy rights were comprised.  Stupid is strong with this product.

They have this places called "locker rooms" where you undress in front of strangers, perhaps even get naked.  You accept that strangers will see you in your underwear or less, but that doesn't mean you'd be thrilled to learn a video of you in your granny panties has been uploaded to the internet.

But I can understand you might never have heard of such a place before.



And how do you react now when someone walks into a locker room with their cell phone held out in front of them?  Or how did you react 30 years ago when someone walked into a locker room with a Polaroid camera?  Or how did you react two thousand years ago when someone walked into a locker room with some papyrus and a quill and started sketching your penis?
 
2013-05-09 04:22:57 PM  

Cupajo: Or how did you react two thousand years ago when someone walked into a locker room with some papyrus and a quill and started sketching your penis?


Go on...
 
2013-05-09 04:23:08 PM  

gweilo8888: and before you suggest I'm just anti-Android, I happen to have four tablets (Nexus 10, two x Asus Transformer TF101 with docks, and Fuhu Nabi 2), plus three Android smartphones (HTC One X+, HTC One X, and Samsung Galaxy Ace). I have precisely one Apple product (iPhone, could care less which version)


Why do you have these things? There is no need for them.
 
2013-05-09 04:25:10 PM  

ladyfortuna: Cupajo: Or how did you react two thousand years ago when someone walked into a locker room with some papyrus and a quill and started sketching your penis?

Go on...


I have a portfolio of papyrus penis-sketches.  It's just a hobby.
 
2013-05-09 04:54:22 PM  

Cupajo: ladyfortuna: Cupajo: Or how did you react two thousand years ago when someone walked into a locker room with some papyrus and a quill and started sketching your penis?

Go on...

I have a portfolio of papyrus penis-sketches.  It's just a hobby.


But how does the initial encounter go?
 
2013-05-09 04:55:26 PM  
Cupajo:   Or how did you react two thousand years ago when someone walked into a locker room with some papyrus and a quill and started sketching your penis?

If you're going to draw a penis on me, please make it a nice big one.
 
2013-05-09 05:35:33 PM  

Cupajo: gweilo8888: and before you suggest I'm just anti-Android, I happen to have four tablets (Nexus 10, two x Asus Transformer TF101 with docks, and Fuhu Nabi 2), plus three Android smartphones (HTC One X+, HTC One X, and Samsung Galaxy Ace). I have precisely one Apple product (iPhone, could care less which version)

Why do you have these things? There is no need for them.


Funny, because I use them on a daily basis.

Not that it's really any of your business, but...

* The HTC phones (my wife's and my own).
* The Samsung phone (my wife's, haven't gotten around to selling, occasionally use it to test software on Gingerbread.)
* The Asus tablets (mine and my wife's, I seldom use mine because...)
* The Nexus tablet (mine, replacing the other one which I need to sell)
* and finally, the Fuhu tablet (my son's.)
 
2013-05-09 05:39:09 PM  

ladyfortuna: Cupajo: ladyfortuna: Cupajo: Or how did you react two thousand years ago when someone walked into a locker room with some papyrus and a quill and started sketching your penis?

Go on...

I have a portfolio of papyrus penis-sketches.  It's just a hobby.

But how does the initial encounter go?


Usually, I just walked into the locker room and said "OK, Papyrus.  Draw a penis."
 
2013-05-09 05:42:59 PM  
gweilo8888: Cupajo: gweilo8888: and before you suggest I'm just anti-Android, I happen to have four tablets (Nexus 10, two x Asus Transformer TF101 with docks, and Fuhu Nabi 2), plus three Android smartphones (HTC One X+, HTC One X, and Samsung Galaxy Ace). I have precisely one Apple product (iPhone, could care less which version)

Why do you have these things? There is no need for them.

Funny, because I use them on a daily basis.

Riiiight, but there's no need for them.  There's really nothing you do with any of those tablets that you couldn't do with a computer you already.  And since, as you pointed out, the fact that no one  needs Glass eliminates any reason to purchase it, the fact that you didn't really need all those tablets should have precluded their purchase? Right?
 
2013-05-09 05:43:43 PM  

Cupajo: gweilo8888: Cupajo: gweilo8888: and before you suggest I'm just anti-Android, I happen to have four tablets (Nexus 10, two x Asus Transformer TF101 with docks, and Fuhu Nabi 2), plus three Android smartphones (HTC One X+, HTC One X, and Samsung Galaxy Ace). I have precisely one Apple product (iPhone, could care less which version)

Why do you have these things? There is no need for them.

Funny, because I use them on a daily basis.

Riiiight, but there's no need for them.  There's really nothing you do with any of those tablets that you couldn't do with a computer you already.  And since, as you pointed out, the fact that no one  needs Glass eliminates any reason to purchase it, the fact that you didn't really need all those tablets should have precluded their purchase? Right?


A computer you already "had".
 
2013-05-09 09:31:36 PM  

Cupajo: gweilo8888: Cupajo: gweilo8888: and before you suggest I'm just anti-Android, I happen to have four tablets (Nexus 10, two x Asus Transformer TF101 with docks, and Fuhu Nabi 2), plus three Android smartphones (HTC One X+, HTC One X, and Samsung Galaxy Ace). I have precisely one Apple product (iPhone, could care less which version)

Why do you have these things? There is no need for them.

Funny, because I use them on a daily basis.

Riiiight, but there's no need for them.  There's really nothing you do with any of those tablets that you couldn't do with a computer you already.  And since, as you pointed out, the fact that no one  needs Glass eliminates any reason to purchase it, the fact that you didn't really need all those tablets should have precluded their purchase? Right?


Uh, yeah, no.

They can -- and do -- do things my computer can't do. Lots of them, on a daily basis. That is precisely *why* I use them. I'm not given to buying things that make no sense.

Google Glass makes no sense, because the form factor will quickly get annoying, it doesn't replace my smartphone, and pulling my smartphone out of my pocket to check something is *less* troublesome than wearing Glass all day for the rare occasions I need it, then struggling to get its voice recognition to correctly identify what I'm saying. (I know, because the voice recognition in Android Jelly Bean is often piss-poor, and this is merely a development of it.)
 
2013-05-09 09:36:53 PM  
gweilo8888: Cupajo: gweilo8888: Cupajo: gweilo8888: and before you suggest I'm just anti-Android, I happen to have four tablets (Nexus 10, two x Asus Transformer TF101 with docks, and Fuhu Nabi 2), plus three Android smartphones (HTC One X+, HTC One X, and Samsung Galaxy Ace). I have precisely one Apple product (iPhone, could care less which version)

Why do you have these things? There is no need for them.

Funny, because I use them on a daily basis.

Riiiight, but there's no need for them.  There's really nothing you do with any of those tablets that you couldn't do with a computer you already.  And since, as you pointed out, the fact that no one  needs Glass eliminates any reason to purchase it, the fact that you didn't really need all those tablets should have precluded their purchase? Right?

Uh, yeah, no.

They can -- and do -- do things my computer can't do. Lots of them, on a daily basis. That is precisely *why* I use them. I'm not given to buying things that make no sense.


If this is true, you aren't qualified to operate a computer.
 
2013-05-10 02:48:36 AM  

Kahabut: If this is true, you aren't qualified to operate a computer.


They do things my computer can't do in large part because of its form factor, you freaking moronic idiot.

My tablet weighs 603 grams. My phone weighs 130 grams. My laptop weighs approximately 2.3 kilograms. My desktop, I've never weighed and I can't Google it because it was scratch-built by me from the individual components, and I don't feel like Googling them all individually, but I'd guess it's somewhere in the region of 7 kilograms or more.

I can also use my tablet without a keyboard attached to it, unlike my laptop, and buying a laptop with a removable screen of similar resolution to my tablet would've been vastly more expensive than just buying the separate tablet.

Not to mention my tablet gets vastly, vastly better battery life than any laptop I've ever used.

So you know, fark off and troll somebody else, moron. You're on ignore because either you are trolling, or you're just too incredibly stupid to be worth holding a conversation with.
 
2013-05-10 10:05:03 PM  

gweilo8888: Kahabut: If this is true, you aren't qualified to operate a computer.

They do things my computer can't do in large part because of its form factor, you freaking moronic idiot.

My tablet weighs 603 grams. My phone weighs 130 grams. My laptop weighs approximately 2.3 kilograms. My desktop, I've never weighed and I can't Google it because it was scratch-built by me from the individual components, and I don't feel like Googling them all individually, but I'd guess it's somewhere in the region of 7 kilograms or more.

I can also use my tablet without a keyboard attached to it, unlike my laptop, and buying a laptop with a removable screen of similar resolution to my tablet would've been vastly more expensive than just buying the separate tablet.

Not to mention my tablet gets vastly, vastly better battery life than any laptop I've ever used.

So you know, fark off and troll somebody else, moron. You're on ignore because either you are trolling, or you're just too incredibly stupid to be worth holding a conversation with.


So it's a matter of weight?  That's what makes the tablets so much more useful than your computer?  Their lightness?  Well, guess what weighs even less than any of your tablets...
 
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