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(Think Progress)   The only whistle the GOP's star Benghazi witnesses had was the one that blew away all their conspiracy theories   ( thinkprogress.org) divider line
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2013-05-09 08:05:09 AM  
Unless the witnesses were only TOLD to say those things by one "super witness," a witness puppet master, a Grand Wizard behind the curtain who knows the real truth and is coordinating their stories. Possibly at the direction of the White House, who knows? But these witnesses are the breadcrumbs that might lead us to the Super Witness, and like all creatures of the shadows, he will cringe and cowver when the light of day is finally shed upon him and we shall have the truth. We only need follow the breadcrumbs.
 
2013-05-09 08:08:35 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Unless the witnesses were only TOLD to say those things by one "super witness," a witness puppet master, a Grand Wizard behind the curtain who knows the real truth and is coordinating their stories. Possibly at the direction of the White House, who knows? But these witnesses are the breadcrumbs that might lead us to the Super Witness, and like all creatures of the shadows, he will cringe and cowver when the light of day is finally shed upon him and we shall have the truth. We only need follow the breadcrumbs.


I think you're onto something.  Surely, the next guy will bring the truth to light!
 
2013-05-09 08:16:30 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Unless the witnesses were only TOLD to say those things by one "super witness," a witness puppet master, a Grand Wizard behind the curtain who knows the real truth and is coordinating their stories. Possibly at the direction of the White House, who knows? But these witnesses are the breadcrumbs that might lead us to the Super Witness, and like all creatures of the shadows, he will cringe and cowver when the light of day is finally shed upon him and we shall have the truth. We only need follow the breadcrumbs.


My money is on:

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2013-05-09 08:21:01 AM  
But we need to know the truth!
 
2013-05-09 08:56:26 AM  
I'm still waiting for an explanation as to the scandalous particulars.  I simply love scandals, but this has just been one big tease.  It's like taking a girl with big tits to the prom and finding out it's all tissue paper.
 
2013-05-09 09:09:49 AM  
Benghazi is the new Whitewater. They see Hillary as their top target in 2016 and they are doing their best to weaken her.
 
2013-05-09 09:12:17 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: I'm still waiting for an explanation as to the scandalous particulars.  I simply love scandals, but this has just been one big tease.  It's like taking a girl with big tits to the prom and finding out it's all tissue paper.


I've heard plenty of things that could be described as scandalous regarding the whole situation.


It's just that none of those things have been true...
 
2013-05-09 09:17:27 AM  
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sounds like they shot themselves in the foot
 
2013-05-09 09:19:31 AM  
Ranking Member Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) questioned that statement, asking Hicks whether he disagreed with Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff Gen Martin Dempsey's assessment that no air assets were in range the night of the attack. Hicks didn't disagree, saying he was "speaking from [his] perspective" and what "veteran Libyan revolutionaries" told him, rather than Pentagon assessments.

Heard that audio, Hicks knew he was trapped.

He went with the Michelle Bachmann "someone told me that vaccines make you retarded" defense, instead of derpling down knowing damn well they'd bury with with facts.
 
2013-05-09 09:20:37 AM  
I work for the State Department so I'm getting some sort of kick...

I know Greg Hicks and worked with him but I can't remember which post it was...USNATO in Brussels or Kabul.

I knew Sean Smith too, same skill code. I volunteered for the TDY he was on to go to Libya. So did one of my coworkers. My ahole boss denied all TDYs to everyeone. Even if we had no work or money for travel (I work in a regional office that supports over 50 missions).
 
2013-05-09 09:21:58 AM  

006deluxe: Marcus Aurelius: I'm still waiting for an explanation as to the scandalous particulars.  I simply love scandals, but this has just been one big tease.  It's like taking a girl with big tits to the prom and finding out it's all tissue paper.

I've heard plenty of things that could be described as scandalous regarding the whole situation.


It's just that none of those things have been true...


There are scandals that you know about, scandals that you don't know about, and scandals that you don't know that you don't know about.  In this Benghazi mess we know that there is a scandal that we don't know that we don't know about, but if we keep asking the same questions over and over again while getting the same answers we might someday bring that unknown-unknown scandal to light.

And the fact that the answers are always the same just proves that they're circling the wagons to protect that unknown-unknown scandal.  QED.
 
2013-05-09 09:22:32 AM  
FTFA: Hicks confirmed that the team was ready to be deployed - not to join the fighting at the CIA annex - but "to secure the airport for the withdrawal of our personnel from Benghazi after the mortar attack." Hicks also confirmed that it was the second such team to be readied for deployment, with the first having proceeded to Benghazi earlier. Despite the second team not deploying, the staff was all evacuated first to Tripoli, then to Germany, within 18 hours of the attack taking place.

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2013-05-09 09:25:01 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Ranking Member Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) questioned that statement, asking Hicks whether he disagreed with Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff Gen Martin Dempsey's assessment that no air assets were in range the night of the attack. Hicks didn't disagree, saying he was "speaking from [his] perspective" and what "veteran Libyan revolutionaries" told him, rather than Pentagon assessments.

Heard that audio, Hicks knew he was trapped. He went with the Michelle Bachmann "someone told me that vaccines make you retarded" defense...


--

Its almost as if State Department officials aren't in a position to judge the DOD's military assets and deployment tactics in a given situation.
 
2013-05-09 09:25:30 AM  
I can see that Hannity and Rush, et al. have not yet hit the air today.  Our resident Benghazi scandal mongers are not yet sure what to say.
 
2013-05-09 09:25:31 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: I'm still waiting for an explanation as to the scandalous particulars.  I simply love scandals, but this has just been one big tease.  It's like taking a girl with big tits to the prom and finding out it's all tissue paper.


Feels your pain.
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-09 09:26:09 AM  
My question to all the tin foil hatters is supposing all the State officials in Libya, including the ambassador, were begging Clinton and the White House for more security, then why on earth would the seasoned and experienced ambassador walk into his certain death?

Do they picture him doing some sort of reverse Alamo kind of thing?

I still don't get the scandal other than the obvious political smear aimed at Clinton.   If one is a Republican and is letting themselves get whipped into a foam over this they should be embarrassed for being an easily manipulated dupe.
 
2013-05-09 09:28:56 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: I'm still waiting for an explanation as to the scandalous particulars.  I simply love scandals, but this has just been one big tease.  It's like taking a girl with big tits to the prom and finding out it's all tissue paper.


The GOP is still going to grope the shiat out of that tissue paper though.
 
2013-05-09 09:33:06 AM  

Somacandra: FTFA: Hicks confirmed that the team was ready to be deployed - not to join the fighting at the CIA annex - but "to secure the airport for the withdrawal of our personnel from Benghazi after the mortar attack." Hicks also confirmed that it was the second such team to be readied for deployment, with the first having proceeded to Benghazi earlier. Despite the second team not deploying, the staff was all evacuated first to Tripoli, then to Germany, within 18 hours of the attack taking place.


That's part of the silliness in all this: "they refused to send help!" No, they did send help. Half of the dead were from the second site who were sent to rescue the people at the consulate. The fact that the second site was attacked later doesn't mean that the consulate was left to the wolves.
 
2013-05-09 09:33:37 AM  
We're still laughing at the Beghazi Troofers?
 
2013-05-09 09:35:02 AM  

Tanukis_Parachute: My ahole boss denied all TDYs to everyeone. Even if we had no work or money for travel


I'd hope he denied TDY if there was no work or money for travel.
 
2013-05-09 09:35:09 AM  

Vodka Zombie: We're still laughing at the Beghazi Troofers?


Given the chance we'll still laugh at the 9/11 troofers. They are pure entertainment.
 
2013-05-09 09:37:34 AM  
That won't stop them from repeating them ad nauseum. There just won't be the so strongly desired impeachment. And when asked why there is no impeachment, the right will blame the librul media.
 
2013-05-09 09:38:12 AM  

Adam West for President: My question to all the tin foil hatters is supposing all the State officials in Libya, including the ambassador, were begging Clinton and the White House for more security, then why on earth would the seasoned and experienced ambassador walk into his certain death?

Do they picture him doing some sort of reverse Alamo kind of thing?

I still don't get the scandal other than the obvious political smear aimed at Clinton.   If one is a Republican and is letting themselves get whipped into a foam over this they should be embarrassed for being an easily manipulated dupe.


Rice said that they believed the attack was related to the riots.  RELATED TO RIOTS!  They were wrong about an ancillary detail of the attacks.  WRONG.  W-R-O-N-G!!!!   W--R--O--N--G!!!!!

If there had been a cover-up it would have been worse than Watergate.  Also, assuming a link to the President which didn't pan-out either.  But still...
 
2013-05-09 09:38:49 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: I'm still waiting for an explanation as to the scandalous particulars.  I simply love scandals, but this has just been one big tease.  It's like taking a girl

chicken with big tits breasts to the prom and finding out it's all tissue paper feathers.

FTFY.
 
2013-05-09 09:42:02 AM  
If only the right put this much focus on detail back in 2003, Iraq may have been very different. Hell, it would be different if they gave just 10% of their Benghazi attention to it.
 
2013-05-09 09:44:10 AM  
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2013-05-09 09:44:18 AM  

Tanukis_Parachute: I work for the State Department so I'm getting some sort of kick...

I know Greg Hicks and worked with him but I can't remember which post it was...USNATO in Brussels or Kabul.

I knew Sean Smith too, same skill code. I volunteered for the TDY he was on to go to Libya. So did one of my coworkers. My ahole boss denied all TDYs to everyeone. Even if we had no work or money for travel (I work in a regional office that supports over 50 missions).


Was there more you wanted to tell us, other than complain about your boss? Unless your boss was responsible for Benghazi or something.
 
2013-05-09 09:44:23 AM  
All excitable douchebags hand-picked by the GOP to lie, raise their hands...
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2013-05-09 09:46:25 AM  
i39.tinypic.com
 
2013-05-09 09:46:57 AM  

WTF Indeed: Benghazi is the new Whitewater. They see Hillary as their top target in 2016 and they are doing their best to weaken her.


Man, the GOP really hasn't learned a thing since 2002 about picking targets, have they?

She's said for the last...4 years? 5? that she doesn't want to be President, she'll be 68 when the 2016 primaries START (69 by the election - her birthday's a week after mine, apparently), many Democrats want someone else (including Party planners), and if The Established and Respected Hillary Clinton couldn't beat Upstart Obama, what makes us think she can handle a non-upstart in 2016?

Also, she really damaged her brand in that primary race.
 
2013-05-09 09:50:18 AM  

Adam West for President: If one is a Republican and is letting themselves get whipped into a foam over this they should be embarrassed for being an easily manipulated dupe.


If they could be embarrassed for being an easily manipulated dupe, they wouldn't be a Republican.
 
2013-05-09 09:52:46 AM  

WTF Indeed: Benghazi is the new Whitewater.


And we all remember how Whitewater captivated the nation.
 
2013-05-09 09:54:10 AM  

Dr Dreidel: WTF Indeed: Benghazi is the new Whitewater. They see Hillary as their top target in 2016 and they are doing their best to weaken her.

Man, the GOP really hasn't learned a thing since 2002 about picking targets, have they?

She's said for the last...4 years? 5? that she doesn't want to be President, she'll be 68 when the 2016 primaries START (69 by the election - her birthday's a week after mine, apparently), many Democrats want someone else (including Party planners), and if The Established and Respected Hillary Clinton couldn't beat Upstart Obama, what makes us think she can handle a non-upstart in 2016?

Also, she really damaged her brand in that primary race.


Not according to the polling.  She's riding pretty high.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/04/30/poll -d emocrats-want-hillary-republicans-mixed-about-2016/
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/hillary-clinton-2016-poll-9085 2. html
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/11/why-hillary-clin to n-would-be-strong-in-2016-its-not-her-favorability-ratings/

If she wants the job, she's got a better chance now than ever.
 
2013-05-09 09:54:26 AM  

FlashHarry: [i39.tinypic.com image 500x500]


Shaffetz pulled the most forced, un-believable attempt at crying over the dead during the testimony yesterday. It was sad, but not in the way he intended.
 
2013-05-09 09:55:16 AM  
Benghazi is doing so well for FNC that I just switched over from Bloomberg and they're talking about ... immigration reform.
 
2013-05-09 09:55:39 AM  

FlashHarry: [i39.tinypic.com image 500x500]


that douchebag  doesn't look waspy enough to be a Republican.
 
2013-05-09 09:59:56 AM  

DarnoKonrad: If she wants the job, she's got a better chance now than ever.


I don't know that there's a typeface big enough for that 'if'.

// Rudyard Kipling would need seventeen more verses
 
2013-05-09 10:00:24 AM  

LasersHurt: FlashHarry: [i39.tinypic.com image 500x500]

Shaffetz pulled the most forced, un-believable attempt at crying over the dead during the testimony yesterday. It was sad, but not in the way he intended.


I had it on the TV while I was doing something else and heard that. I was thinking to myself... is he trying to fake cry?  Pathetic.
 
2013-05-09 10:11:06 AM  

Dr Dreidel: DarnoKonrad: If she wants the job, she's got a better chance now than ever.

I don't know that there's a typeface big enough for that 'if'.

// Rudyard Kipling would need seventeen more verses



I doubt any politician could resist those numbers, but then Hillary isn't really a politician in the career sense like most are.  So I don't know what she's going to do; I doubt she does either.
 
2013-05-09 10:16:10 AM  
Bbbbbut YouTube. Hurrrrrrr.
 
2013-05-09 10:19:03 AM  

LasersHurt: FlashHarry: [i39.tinypic.com image 500x500]

Shaffetz pulled the most forced, un-believable attempt at crying over the dead during the testimony yesterday. It was sad, but not in the way he intended.


here he is getting pwned by soledad o'brien on the subject

i love her reaction when he says, "absolutely."
 
2013-05-09 10:31:00 AM  
This place was lousy with Benghazi trolling yesterday. Are they waiting for the official Republican spin on this or just recovering from some serious drinking last night?
 
2013-05-09 10:32:17 AM  

Wooly Bully: This place was lousy with Benghazi trolling yesterday. Are they waiting for the official Republican spin on this or just recovering from some serious drinking last night?


I suspect they're waiting for the editors to cut together everything for a primetime blitz.
 
2013-05-09 10:32:26 AM  

FlashHarry: LasersHurt: FlashHarry: [i39.tinypic.com image 500x500]

Shaffetz pulled the most forced, un-believable attempt at crying over the dead during the testimony yesterday. It was sad, but not in the way he intended.

here he is getting pwned by soledad o'brien on the subject

i love her reaction when he says, "absolutely."


"Yes, we cut funding for embassy/consulate/diplomatic mission security, but they have to prioritize!"
"Um, are you aware that you're talking out of both sides of your mouth? On-air, on-camera? Like, in that one sentence, you agree that you gave them less to work with, yet you think they should have been able to do more."
"Well, yeah, but this is Libya! They just had a war!"
"So then why did you cut security funding?"

// I also liked him calling the Benghazi attack "nine eleven"
// a subtle bit of Luntzian wordplay
// is this a thing in the GOP now? calling it "nine eleven"?
 
2013-05-09 10:34:38 AM  

Wooly Bully: This place was lousy with Benghazi trolling yesterday. Are they waiting for the official Republican spin on this or just recovering from some serious drinking last night?


They have to be told what to say,  and I suspect the GOP leadership is still applying Preparation H to their nether regions right now.

They'll be here soon though.
 
2013-05-09 10:36:30 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Wooly Bully: This place was lousy with Benghazi trolling yesterday. Are they waiting for the official Republican spin on this or just recovering from some serious drinking last night?

They have to be told what to say,  and I suspect the GOP leadership is still applying Preparation H to their nether regions right now.

They'll be here soon though.


I suspect they will be going with a version of "The lack of evidence is evidence that there is a massive conspiracy".
 
2013-05-09 10:40:27 AM  
This is like watching a fight between rodeo clowns and mimes.
 
2013-05-09 10:42:28 AM  
There's a surprise. I think I'm going to die from that surprise.
 
2013-05-09 10:42:37 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Marcus Aurelius: Wooly Bully: This place was lousy with Benghazi trolling yesterday. Are they waiting for the official Republican spin on this or just recovering from some serious drinking last night?

They have to be told what to say,  and I suspect the GOP leadership is still applying Preparation H to their nether regions right now.

They'll be here soon though.

I suspect they will be going with a version of "The lack of evidence is evidence that there is a massive conspiracy".


Haha, if I heard someone say that in earnest I think I'd simply reply "President Hillary Clinton" just for the fun of it.
 
2013-05-09 10:47:08 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Marcus Aurelius: Wooly Bully: This place was lousy with Benghazi trolling yesterday. Are they waiting for the official Republican spin on this or just recovering from some serious drinking last night?

They have to be told what to say,  and I suspect the GOP leadership is still applying Preparation H to their nether regions right now.

They'll be here soon though.

I suspect they will be going with a version of "The lack of evidence is evidence that there is a massive conspiracy".


...well that, and trying to figure out still how to assuage the simple fact of more attacks during the Bush Administration, with a far higher death toll, and their own "side" voting to undercut Embassy security. This is the sad and pernicious truth that still soils this particular vitriolic witch hunt that still has yet to provide a single sorcerer or debbil worshiper.

Manufactured outrage is easy to keep stoked though, because it's acting, and nothing more than that.
 
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