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(Washington Post)   Washington Nationals' new rain out policy is only a problem if you have a job   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 21
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2013-05-09 08:52:37 AM
Apparently They are only screwing season ticket holders, they sent out two emails. The one for season ticket holders said they won't be able to exchange tickets, the one to ticket buyers says:

"STATEMENT FROM THE WASHINGTON NATIONALS

The Washington Nationals wish to announce that all fans who purchased tickets for Tuesday night's postponed game with the Detroit Tigers will be guaranteed their same seats for Thursday's scheduled 4:05 p.m. makeup game, or will retain the option to exchange their tickets - as they have in the past - for any remaining regular or value home game during the 2013 season, subject to availability."

So it looks like regular ticket holders are fine.
 
2013-05-09 08:57:32 AM
They changed the poilicy only after a couple sportwriters tweeted the rules out and people complained.  Until yesterday afternoon they could only use the tickets for that 405pm game, there was no alternative.  Apparently the ticket office got a ridiculous amount of calls complaining and forced them to reconsider.
 
2013-05-09 09:03:25 AM

nmrsnr: Apparently They are only screwing season ticket holders


For season ticket holders it is treated the same as any game they fail to attend. You get reward points to use for future games. That program has been restricted this year compared to the past but season ticket holders can still use them for future games.
 
2013-05-09 09:08:06 AM
If you work in DC and can't get out for a 4:05 ball game, your job sucks.
 
2013-05-09 09:10:24 AM
Or next time they could just play the game.  The Orioles managed to play a full 9 innings Tuesday night, with only one short rain delay.  And living in-between the two stadiums and watching the weather all night, they both had the same conditions (showers off and on but mostly off).
 
2013-05-09 09:13:48 AM

MagicBus: Or next time they could just play the game.  The Orioles managed to play a full 9 innings Tuesday night, with only one short rain delay.  And living in-between the two stadiums and watching the weather all night, they both had the same conditions (showers off and on but mostly off).


I'm not sure what it did in Baltimore, but it absolutely poured in DC from about 9:30 to the mid-afternoon.  It could have been that the outfield simply couldn't drain enough.
 
2013-05-09 09:28:07 AM
Playing interleague games causes rainout scheduling problems, as it's likely the only trip into town for the visiting team. The umps try to play through horrible weather to get the game in, but this game didn't even get started.

Thanks, Selig.
 
2013-05-09 09:30:45 AM

ChrisDe: Playing interleague games causes rainout scheduling problems, as it's likely the only trip into town for the visiting team. The umps try to play through horrible weather to get the game in, but this game didn't even get started.

Thanks, Selig.


The Nationals called this game off. Home team decides until the first pitch is thrown, then it's up to the umpire crew chief.
 
2013-05-09 09:50:01 AM

lunchinlewis: If you work in DC and can't get out for a 4:05 ball game, your job sucks.


I'm in training today :(
 
2013-05-09 09:58:43 AM

ElwoodCuse: ChrisDe: Playing interleague games causes rainout scheduling problems, as it's likely the only trip into town for the visiting team. The umps try to play through horrible weather to get the game in, but this game didn't even get started.

Thanks, Selig.

The Nationals called this game off. Home team decides until the first pitch is thrown, then it's up to the umpire crew chief.


They did, and pretty early too. But I've seen a couple of games this year that were being played in a downpour, basically because it was an interleague game.
 
2013-05-09 10:00:40 AM

ElwoodCuse: ChrisDe: Playing interleague games causes rainout scheduling problems, as it's likely the only trip into town for the visiting team. The umps try to play through horrible weather to get the game in, but this game didn't even get started.

Thanks, Selig.

The Nationals called this game off. Home team decides until the first pitch is thrown, then it's up to the umpire crew chief.


The point about inter-league play potentially wreaking havoc on the schedule is still valid. Two game visits are playing with rainout fire, not to mention it is too easy to completely miss, or only face, the other teams best pitchers. The more games you play against a given opponent, the more likely the outcome is to reflect the "true strength" of the teams.

In this age of Sports Center and MLB Network, what value does inter-league serve? When I was a kid it was possible to not see the other league. Nowadays, you need to go out of your way to avoid seeing them on TV, whether full games or highlights.
 
2013-05-09 10:06:53 AM

ChrisDe: Playing interleague games causes rainout scheduling problems, as it's likely the only trip into town for the visiting team. The umps try to play through horrible weather to get the game in, but this game didn't even get started.

Thanks, Selig.



Though in Washington's case, it seems less of a problem because AL teams will probably be in Baltimore sometime. I'm not sure how it'd work ( I don't know much about MLB's scheduling system/policy), but it seems like make-up games could be played before/after a series with the Os, should a slot not be available (in, say, a future rain-out.)

/Doesn't really apply to places like Phoenix or Denver, though...
 
2013-05-09 10:18:33 AM

ElwoodCuse: ChrisDe: Playing interleague games causes rainout scheduling problems, as it's likely the only trip into town for the visiting team. The umps try to play through horrible weather to get the game in, but this game didn't even get started.

Thanks, Selig.

The Nationals called this game off. Home team decides until the first pitch is thrown, then it's up to the umpire crew chief.


I swear there used to be an exception to this where the umps were in control when it was the last series of the season for the road team in a given city. That may have only applied to September games, though. But I can't find it, so either I made it up or I suck at teh googles.
 
2013-05-09 10:34:00 AM

Loomy: ChrisDe: Playing interleague games causes rainout scheduling problems, as it's likely the only trip into town for the visiting team. The umps try to play through horrible weather to get the game in, but this game didn't even get started.

Thanks, Selig.


Though in Washington's case, it seems less of a problem because AL teams will probably be in Baltimore sometime. I'm not sure how it'd work ( I don't know much about MLB's scheduling system/policy), but it seems like make-up games could be played before/after a series with the Os, should a slot not be available (in, say, a future rain-out.)

/Doesn't really apply to places like Phoenix or Denver, though...


Maybe one day we'll see a day-night doubleheader, with a team playing against the Orioles at noon and against the Nats at 7:00.
 
2013-05-09 10:43:04 AM

ChrisDe: Loomy: ChrisDe: Playing interleague games causes rainout scheduling problems, as it's likely the only trip into town for the visiting team. The umps try to play through horrible weather to get the game in, but this game didn't even get started.

Thanks, Selig.


Though in Washington's case, it seems less of a problem because AL teams will probably be in Baltimore sometime. I'm not sure how it'd work ( I don't know much about MLB's scheduling system/policy), but it seems like make-up games could be played before/after a series with the Os, should a slot not be available (in, say, a future rain-out.)

/Doesn't really apply to places like Phoenix or Denver, though...

Maybe one day we'll see a day-night doubleheader, with a team playing against the Orioles at noon and against the Nats at 7:00.


MLBPA will never let that happen.
 
2013-05-09 10:49:17 AM

Broktun: MLBPA  traffic will never let that happen.

 
2013-05-09 11:02:28 AM

Rex_Banner: ElwoodCuse: ChrisDe: Playing interleague games causes rainout scheduling problems, as it's likely the only trip into town for the visiting team. The umps try to play through horrible weather to get the game in, but this game didn't even get started.

Thanks, Selig.

The Nationals called this game off. Home team decides until the first pitch is thrown, then it's up to the umpire crew chief.

I swear there used to be an exception to this where the umps were in control when it was the last series of the season for the road team in a given city. That may have only applied to September games, though. But I can't find it, so either I made it up or I suck at teh googles.


In Triple A I know the decision is made before game time by the Umps and the team using a formula of how long it will take to dry the field and how long before the next storm.  Usually if it has been raining all day and there is a chance of rain during the game they will call the game if the outfield is saturated to the point that a few minutes of rain will turn it into a swamp.
 
2013-05-09 11:40:14 AM
What the fark are the Nationals supposed to do, go out there and let theri farkin' players get destroyed every day and be quiet about it? For the farkin' nickel-dime people who turn up? The motherfarkers don't even work. That's why they're out at the farkin' game. They oughta go out and get a farkin' job and find out what it's like to go out and earn a farkin' living. Eighty-five percent of the farkin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A farkin' playground for the cocksuckers. Rip them motherfarkers. Rip them farkin' cocksuckers like the farkin' players. we got guys bustin' their farkin' ass, and them farkin' people boo.
 
2013-05-09 12:03:01 PM
Isn't this is how most MLB teams who don't have tons of empty seats every game do it?  That's how the Tigers do it as well.

And Marlins fans...your insight is not needed.
 
2013-05-09 12:36:53 PM

jake_lex: What the fark are the Nationals supposed to do, go out there and let theri farkin' players get destroyed every day and be quiet about it? For the farkin' nickel-dime people who turn up? The motherfarkers don't even work. That's why they're out at the farkin' game. They oughta go out and get a farkin' job and find out what it's like to go out and earn a farkin' living. Eighty-five percent of the farkin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A farkin' playground for the cocksuckers. Rip them motherfarkers. Rip them farkin' cocksuckers like the farkin' players. we got guys bustin' their farkin' ass, and them farkin' people boo.


+1, Lee!

/30th anniversary of that was a few days ago
 
2013-05-10 02:35:48 AM

Coach_J: Isn't this is how most MLB teams who don't have tons of empty seats every game do it?  That's how the Tigers do it as well.

And Marlins fans...your insight is not needed.


There are Marlins fans?

/Bitter Marlins fan, doing my best to ignore this "season"
 
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