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(NBC News)   The number of people applying to live on Mars is now up to 78,000. Strangely, every application came with a return address from Cleveland   (science.nbcnews.com ) divider line
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2013-05-09 11:57:49 AM  
3 votes:
Here's the deal: as long as humanity is earthbound, we are vulnerable. The Earth is a single point of failure. Asteroid strike, global warming, pandemic, whatever. We are the first species to have the technology to prevent our own extinction. We should begin the process of colonizing every colonizable planet and moon in the solar system. It may take a thousand years to complete, but if the asteroid comes in the year 3013, we'll be happy then that we started now.
2013-05-09 10:25:53 AM  
3 votes:

berylman: This whole Mars One project reeks of a giant scam... they will never leave the stratosphere at all and after raking in enough cash those responsible will disappear.  Their original intentions may have been good though.


I'm throwing my hat in the ring with this person.

There are no details, the timelines are bunk, there have been no successful, long term studies on the type of life they would be living...

I don't know...they've made some decent money on the application process alone and they have 10 years before you even go.  (From http://www.space.com/20165-mars-one-colony-images.html)

Step 1 2016 - Send supplies - Where?  How? You sent food and supplies for people not arriving until 2023?  Yum.
Step 2 2018 - Send rover to find best location - Really?  So randomly drop the supplies on the planet and THEN look for where you'll be?  Good luck dragging all those supplies around.
Step 3 2021 - Living units arrive.  Great.  How are they getting setup and ready, exactly? Everything should be pre-setup for them by then?  Have we experimented with construction on an alien planet before?  How is it getting setup, exactly?

And so on...no details.

Plus, this is a Dutch company and there aren't any slavery laws on Mars yet.  You remember what happened the last time the Dutch colonized a new country...
2013-05-09 01:33:50 PM  
2 votes:

ZeroCorpse: Things you'll have to deal with if you go live on Mars:

62% lower gravity than you enjoy on Earth, which means:


Your following points seem to indicate that 1/3 Earth gravity equals weightlessness.  No, it doesn't.  In 1/3 gravity objects will still fall to the floor, only at 1/3 their normal acceleration.

→ You poop by sticking a suction vacuum on your ass.

Suction is used in microgravity, such as on the ISS and as seen on the shuttle and Apollo flights.  Even in 1/3 gravity, poop and urine fall down.  You might need an extra jiggle to get your poop to finally let go.

→ You can't ever lie down to sleep without being strapped in.

Straps are something from microgravity flights, not in a significant gravity well.  Apollo astronauts were not strapped down when they would sleep on the moon's surface.  The first three landings had the crews sleeping uncomfortably in their gear.  The final three brought hammocks and slept well.

→ You can't even do something as simple as pouring a glass of water; You suck beverages and food from a bag.

Again, this is a detail in weightlessness, not on a body as significant as Mars or the moon.

→ You ladies will have to do some AWFUL things when your period comes. Think floating blood & menses.

This one I'll admit I probably have heard the least about, but if pads and tampons are being use properly they ought to be rather absorbant.

→ Sex becomes a chore in low gravity.

All of the manned space agencies deny having had crews actually engage in sex in space, however, I think it would be fun at least once.  However, while the kinky space sex might be fun, there is the possibility of birth defects or deformities from a host of issues in space.  Perhaps the hardest to overcome is the low gravity on other bodies.  Human fetuses develop at ~1G and go on to experience their lives in 1G.  Bone density depends greatly on how much resistance and stress the body is experiencing.  In zero gravity, bones do weaken.  Astronauts have to dedicate time on orbit to actually maintain their bodies else they weaken considerably.  There is much less understanding about low gravity situations, again such as Mars and the moon, to know exactly what effects there would be on developing humans.

→ Vomiting is horrifying and disgusting in ways you've never experienced on Earth, and you'll be doing a lot of it.

Vomit would fall in the gravity on Mars.

→ You'll be peeing in a suction device too. Either that, or wearing diapers.

See above about pooping.

→ Masturbation must be done into a bag, sock, or some collector unless you want semen floating around your room.

Wouldn't you rather just have space sex?  Again, your splooge will fall to the floor like on Earth, just slower because of the 1/3 gravity on Mars.

The radiation will make you sick. A lot.

Radiation is a very real danger, both during the flight to Mars and while living there.  Some of the proposals for colonization involve sealing off lava tubes and using their walls to block solar and cosmic radiation.  This is an issue that still needs work and you're right to bring it up.
2013-05-09 12:33:20 PM  
2 votes:
Things you'll have to deal with if you go live on Mars:

No natural atmosphere. You'll be breathing stale, recycled air until you can figure out how to make plants grow.

62% lower gravity than you enjoy on Earth, which means:
→ You poop by sticking a suction vacuum on your ass.
→ You can't ever lie down to sleep without being strapped in.
→ You can't even do something as simple as pouring a glass of water; You suck beverages and food from a bag.
→ You ladies will have to do some AWFUL things when your period comes. Think floating blood & menses.
→ Sex becomes a chore in low gravity.
→ Vomiting is horrifying and disgusting in ways you've never experienced on Earth, and you'll be doing a lot of it.
→ You'll be peeing in a suction device too. Either that, or wearing diapers.
→ Masturbation must be done into a bag, sock, or some collector unless you want semen floating around your room.

The radiation will make you sick. A lot.
The planet is cold. Bring lots of blankets. An average of -67 degrees Fahrenheit.
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After a while in space, your brain suffers a bit, too. Your eyes become deformed after a while. They get squashed, your vision blurs, and your optic nerve swells. Enjoy the pounding headaches, too!

Then there's the whole "being trapped in a confined space" thing. If you're lucky it's only weeks. If you're not lucky, it's months. Have fun with your new-found insanity. You could read during that time, but your eyes are going to be a little messed up. You could listen to music, but you need to conserve electricity for critical systems and can't use it to charge your iPod. Really, all you can do is float there and wait to occasionally have a bowel movement or eat some sludge out of a tube.

That's just a LITTLE of how miserable it will be. Now run along, you 78,000 morons. Enjoy your stay on a cold, barren, lifeless planet with less than half of Earth's gravity and none of Earth's benefits. While you're attaching a hose to your ass to suck out your poop every day, we'll be down here watching the next Avengers movie, enjoying hot showers, and eating barbecue

But HEY! Have fun in space, though. Don't let Earth's door hit you on the ass on the way out.

It sounds  awesome.
2013-05-09 10:55:44 AM  
2 votes:
Cleveland is an awesome place to live. Mild weather, lots of fresh water, great restaurants, great arts and culture scene, fantastic metroparks and national park, low cost of living, manageable traffic. I have lived in other cities and I came back. Love it here.

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2013-05-09 10:07:25 AM  
2 votes:
Bye bye!  Don't forget your miniatures and Can-D supply.
2013-05-09 10:06:55 AM  
2 votes:
I think we should build three great spaceships.   The idea was that into the first ship, the 'A' ship, would go all the brilliant leaders, the scientists, the great artists, you know, all the achievers; and into the third, or 'C' ship, would go all the people who did the actual work, who made things and did things, and then into the `B' ship would go everyone else, the middlemen you see."
2013-05-09 04:13:16 PM  
1 vote:
For $38, 70,000 people get to be excited telling people "I signed up to go to Mars!" If that's how they get they're jollies, fine. But how many of them would actually ever step foot on the rocket if given the chance? 70?

I think this could be a scientology-type thing. You sign up for $38. Then to take the Level One astronaut training program, it costs $1,000. If you score high enough on those tests, you get to pay $5,000 to enter Level Two training. And so on.
2013-05-09 11:34:51 AM  
1 vote:
I have to agree with the people that are saying this is total crap.  After all, the first manned mission to Mars won't arrive on the Red Planet until July 4, 2057.  However, manned missions to Mars will temporarily cease to happen after we lose Ares 13 and its crew in 2072.  Manned missions will then resume in 2101, and the first permanent Mars Colony won't be built until 2155, which is one year before First Contact with the Centauri.
2013-05-09 11:32:21 AM  
1 vote:

abfalter: berylman: This whole Mars One project reeks of a giant scam... they will never leave the stratosphere at all and after raking in enough cash those responsible will disappear.  Their original intentions may have been good though.

It is amazing that there are 78,000 people out there who don't seem to understand this clear and obvious truth.  This endevor is a huge scam.


You're amazed about the 78,000? Heck, I'm amazed it's ONLY 78,000.
/If only I could find 78,000 people to each send me a dollar...or ten....
2013-05-09 11:11:41 AM  
1 vote:
I was talking to some coworkers not too long ago about this thing, what's to stop people from chickening out at the last minute and just not show up for the launch?
2013-05-09 11:08:15 AM  
1 vote:
Ah yes. When I'm planning humanity's first interplanetary mission, I want its members selected by audience voting.
2013-05-09 10:44:15 AM  
1 vote:
It seems people are always more willing to flee from the problems around them than to stay and try to make things right.
2013-05-09 10:39:13 AM  
1 vote:
I'm surprised more people from Canada haven't applied

/was expecting it to rival the states in numbers
2013-05-09 10:13:27 AM  
1 vote:
A manned mission to Mars by a private company in 10 years' time when they haven't even designed, much less launched, a communications satellite?  To say nothing of designing, building, launching and landing a fleet of hab modules?  This ain't happening.   But I'm sure they'll be happy to take your money
2013-05-09 10:12:14 AM  
1 vote:
This whole Mars One project reeks of a giant scam... they will never leave the stratosphere at all and after raking in enough cash those responsible will disappear.  Their original intentions may have been good though.
2013-05-09 10:08:55 AM  
1 vote:

BraveNewCheneyWorld: I'm sure there are much more pleasant ways to commit suicide than stranding yourself on a barren rock.


There is no appreciable iron core in Mars, thus no magnetic field, thus no van Allen belts to deflect solar wind/radiation. There's no ozone layer to filter UV either -- the atmosphere is actually shrinking due to the solar win stripping it away.

Meh.

Send terminal cancer patients because the young and healthy will be cut short.
2013-05-09 10:04:44 AM  
1 vote:
I'm sure there are much more pleasant ways to commit suicide than stranding yourself on a barren rock.
2013-05-09 09:50:29 AM  
1 vote:
B-but all the little chicks with the crimson lips tell me Cleveland rocks!
2013-05-09 08:38:47 AM  
1 vote:
It's a godawful small affair.
2013-05-09 08:08:50 AM  
1 vote:
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