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(Guardian)   Psychic faces backlash for telling mother of Amanda Berry that her daughter was dead back in 2004. She probably should have seen this coming   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 149
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2013-05-08 11:59:39 PM
LAUGHTER OL even David Blaine does the better cold readings than Sylvia Browne who charges the thousands of dollars for the fraud of this.  I do not have the problem with the best illusion of she and that is making the money of the individuals who are dumb enough to have the trust in the psychic disappear.  TA-DA OL!

She has also done the prediction of the flat tax many years in the row and yet people still have the trust in she. No one is the psychic individual.  Most children have the understanding of this.
 
2013-05-09 12:12:16 AM
images.cryhavok.org
 
2013-05-09 12:29:49 AM
She was in Ohio. Potato potahto, y'know?
 
2013-05-09 12:45:06 AM
Sylvia Brown is a fraud and a charlatan of extraordinary magnitude

/but if you're stupid enough to believe her bullsh*t, you deserve what you get
 
2013-05-09 12:51:07 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Sylvia Brown is a fraud and a charlatan of extraordinary magnitude

/but if you're stupid enough to believe her bullsh*t, you deserve what you get


Yep.
 
2013-05-09 01:18:56 AM
In Italy, they gave some geologists SIX YEARS IN JAIL for not accurately predicting the timing and severity of an earthquake.
 
2013-05-09 01:22:44 AM
If only there were a South Park episode(s) having addressed this sort of nonsense.
 
2013-05-09 01:56:34 AM
I think the greatest tragedy was that the mother sprint years searching, never giving up hope. But all that stress finally killed her. She  will never have the happy reunion she longed for.
 
2013-05-09 02:13:13 AM
Don't stop believing! Maybe there was psychic interference in the air that day! You don't know how those things work!

southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com
 
2013-05-09 02:23:53 AM
You know what's sad? People like Harry Houdini and other magicians and skeptics have been busting spiritualists frauds and psychic seance scams since the turn of the century, but people are still being suckered in by charlatans like Sylvia Browne.

At least back in the old days, spiritualists had to do a real performance to sell their scams complete with belt rigs that "levitate" tables, or table knockers or hiding cheesecloth in the mouth to pull out in the performance as "ectoplasm."

Nowadays, these so-called psychics just do a cold read - a simple dime store trick that any idiot can learn to do in an afternoon.
 
2013-05-09 02:24:11 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: a fraud and a charlatan


Should be the dictionary definition of "psychic".
 
2013-05-09 02:42:51 AM
I'd no idea that Madam Cleo had a protege until now....
 
2013-05-09 03:02:54 AM
This is shameful.


All psychic powers demonstrated cannot be duplicated by con artists, magicians and mentalists.

Psychic powers have been duplicated successfully under close scientific experiment many times. Their nature is not vague and insubstantial. Any con artist who has pretended to be a real psychic has been found out.


People claim that psychic powers are claimed to be had by con artists, and the scam runs in three stages which may be repeated if the victim is willing.

These stages may be combined or rearranged but all three stages will occur.


Stage One: The psychic proves their powers. This can include:-


Telling a client facts about their life through special powers.

Telling a client facts about their life through full trance medium powers.

Performing an impossible feat of physicality. Swamis often claim walking on broken glass, hammering a nail into one's face etc. are proof of special powers.

Have previous clients recommend the psychic. The previous clients are the many, many satisfied customers.


Stage Two: The psychic provides a psychic service. This can include:-


Removal of curses (e.g. slit the throat of a chicken and spray them with the blood - the most common)

Revealing information about the person's personality (e.g. palmistry)

Providing advice as to how the person could act in the future (e.g. tarot)

Tell the person their future. (e.g. crystal ball gazing)

Providing unknown information (e.g. position of a lost person)

Holding a conversation with a dead person or pet.

Stage Three: The psychic will solicit a donation. It's only fair that people are paid for such mastery of magic!


The person will be asked to donate to the psychic.

The person will may have to give up an 'offering' for removal of a curse.

The victim will purchase a lucky charm, which is lucky.

The victim will pay a set fee or per minute via phone (most of the best psychics are on the phone lines, although it's hard to then, for example, remove curses via chicken throat slitting and similar methods.


Obviously, many psychics prefer to solicit the money before the second stage, as due to the nature of Man's dark mind, it's hard for them to see the fiduciary trustworthiness of the client.


In summary, it's obvious that people like Sylvia Brown are the real heroes of our world. Sure, they get it wrong sometimes, but that is either interference, fiduciary failure, or even dark forces working against them. In the same way that someone policing our suburbs for free and getting blamed for unforseen consequences, such as the Zimmermans of the world, psychics fight the long hard struggle to have their truly legitimate services recognised for the community boosting life-embracing acts that they are.

As Sylvia herself said, "Only God is right all the time. My heart goes out to Amanda Berry, her family, the other victims and their families. I wish you a peaceful recovery."


The fact that Amanda is back from the dead due to Sylvia's prayers should make those who criticise her hang their heads in shame. My heart truly went into abasement upon seeing that some people will always point the finger at America's true heroes.
 
2013-05-09 03:11:14 AM

paulseta: This is shameful.


Either you are the stupidest person on the planet, or this is some sort of a troll.
 
2013-05-09 03:22:23 AM
She's no different from religious leaders telling people to give $$ to their churches and pray to some imaginary god for help.
 
2013-05-09 03:22:48 AM

paulseta: This is shameful.


All psychic powers demonstrated cannot be duplicated by con artists, magicians and mentalists.

Psychic powers have been duplicated successfully under close scientific experiment many times. Their nature is not vague and insubstantial. Any con artist who has pretended to be a real psychic has been found out.


People claim that psychic powers are claimed to be had by con artists, and the scam runs in three stages which may be repeated if the victim is willing.

These stages may be combined or rearranged but all three stages will occur.


Stage One: The psychic proves their powers. This can include:-


Telling a client facts about their life through special powers.

Telling a client facts about their life through full trance medium powers.

Performing an impossible feat of physicality. Swamis often claim walking on broken glass, hammering a nail into one's face etc. are proof of special powers.

Have previous clients recommend the psychic. The previous clients are the many, many satisfied customers.


Stage Two: The psychic provides a psychic service. This can include:-


Removal of curses (e.g. slit the throat of a chicken and spray them with the blood - the most common)

Revealing information about the person's personality (e.g. palmistry)

Providing advice as to how the person could act in the future (e.g. tarot)

Tell the person their future. (e.g. crystal ball gazing)

Providing unknown information (e.g. position of a lost person)

Holding a conversation with a dead person or pet.

Stage Three: The psychic will solicit a donation. It's only fair that people are paid for such mastery of magic!


The person will be asked to donate to the psychic.

The person will may have to give up an 'offering' for removal of a curse.

The victim will purchase a lucky charm, which is lucky.

The victim will pay a set fee or per minute via phone (most of the best psychics are on the phone lines, although it's hard to then, for example, remove curses via chicke ...


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2013-05-09 03:42:04 AM
I'm getting an A....Amy?,......Ann?......Amanda........Yes Amanda

resources2.news.com.au
 
2013-05-09 03:49:49 AM
She's a psychic. Of COURSE she's a fraud. But if you don't sue all of them, it makes no sense to sue one of them. Especially when the advice she gave would be true in 99% of cases.
 
2013-05-09 03:52:46 AM
My heart goes out to Amanda Berry, her family, the other victims and their families. I wish you a peaceful recovery.

I'm sure Amanda's mom will get right on that.
 
2013-05-09 03:55:33 AM
In all likelihood, it's probably impossible to be a psychic. You would have to be aware of all possible probabilities that affect an event's outcome and that number is infinite. Then once you tell people what's going to happen, you affect those probabilities, which creates a whole new infinite set of contingencies based on the information you gave to them. The whole field would be impossible for the human brain to track with any useful degree of accuracy. In short, anyone who's a true psychic would probably go insane from the overabundance of information.
 
2013-05-09 03:55:42 AM
Please Please please please...I hope there is some way to sue the fark out of Sylvia Browne and her ilk for distribution of false information, unnecessary distress or whatever they can hang on the witch.

I really hope there's a special hell for these conniving coonts.
 
2013-05-09 03:56:01 AM
Psychics that charge a few bucks and tell you a bunch of vague shiat that doesn't hurt anyone and gives someone cheap hope: Whatever.

Psychics that do this kind of shiat: fark right off. This kind of thing is pretty deplorable.
 
2013-05-09 03:58:31 AM
Good rule of thumb: don't pay your magic users until the spell works.
 
2013-05-09 03:58:49 AM

paulseta: This is shameful.


All psychic powers demonstrated cannot be duplicated by con artists, magicians and mentalists.

Psychic powers have been duplicated successfully under close scientific experiment many times. Their nature is not vague and insubstantial. Any con artist who has pretended to be a real psychic has been found out.


People claim that psychic powers are claimed to be had by con artists, and the scam runs in three stages which may be repeated if the victim is willing.

These stages may be combined or rearranged but all three stages will occur.


Stage One: The psychic proves their powers. This can include:-


Telling a client facts about their life through special powers.

Telling a client facts about their life through full trance medium powers.

Performing an impossible feat of physicality. Swamis often claim walking on broken glass, hammering a nail into one's face etc. are proof of special powers.

Have previous clients recommend the psychic. The previous clients are the many, many satisfied customers.


Stage Two: The psychic provides a psychic service. This can include:-


Removal of curses (e.g. slit the throat of a chicken and spray them with the blood - the most common)

Revealing information about the person's personality (e.g. palmistry)

Providing advice as to how the person could act in the future (e.g. tarot)

Tell the person their future. (e.g. crystal ball gazing)

Providing unknown information (e.g. position of a lost person)

Holding a conversation with a dead person or pet.

Stage Three: The psychic will solicit a donation. It's only fair that people are paid for such mastery of magic!


The person will be asked to donate to the psychic.

The person will may have to give up an 'offering' for removal of a curse.

The victim will purchase a lucky charm, which is lucky.

The victim will pay a set fee or per minute via phone (most of the best psychics are on the phone lines, although it's hard to then, for example, remove curses via chicken throat slitting and similar methods.


Obviously, many psychics prefer to solicit the money before the second stage, as due to the nature of Man's dark mind, it's hard for them to see the fiduciary trustworthiness of the client.


In summary, it's obvious that people like Sylvia Brown are the real heroes of our world. Sure, they get it wrong sometimes, but that is either interference, fiduciary failure, or even dark forces working against them. In the same way that someone policing our suburbs for free and getting blamed for unforseen consequences, such as the Zimmermans of the world, psychics fight the long hard struggle to have their truly legitimate services recognised for the community boosting life-embracing acts that they are.

As Sylvia herself said, "Only God is right all the time. My heart goes out to Amanda Berry, her family, the other victims and their families. I wish you a peaceful recovery."


The fact that Amanda is back from the dead due to Sylvia's prayers should make those who criticise her hang their heads in shame. My heart truly went into abasement upon seeing that some people will always point the finger at America's true heroes.


The sane community frowns on your shenanigans.
 
2013-05-09 03:59:18 AM

paulseta: Any con artist who has pretended to be a real psychic has been found out.


yup. you said it.
 
2013-05-09 04:07:58 AM
Anderson Cooper had me rolling with laughter when he read her statement.

Anderson Cooper: "Sylvia Browne released this statement, which said: (then he reads her statement). She could have just said "I have no shame at all".
 
2013-05-09 04:14:51 AM

paulseta: This is shameful.


All psychic powers demonstrated cannot be duplicated by con artists, magicians and mentalists.

Psychic powers have been duplicated successfully under close scientific experiment many times. Their nature is not vague and insubstantial. Any con artist who has pretended to be a real psychic has been found out.


People claim that psychic powers are claimed to be had by con artists, and the scam runs in three stages which may be repeated if the victim is willing.

These stages may be combined or rearranged but all three stages will occur.


Stage One: The psychic proves their powers. This can include:-


Telling a client facts about their life through special powers.

Telling a client facts about their life through full trance medium powers.

Performing an impossible feat of physicality. Swamis often claim walking on broken glass, hammering a nail into one's face etc. are proof of special powers.

Have previous clients recommend the psychic. The previous clients are the many, many satisfied customers.


Stage Two: The psychic provides a psychic service. This can include:-


Removal of curses (e.g. slit the throat of a chicken and spray them with the blood - the most common)

Revealing information about the person's personality (e.g. palmistry)

Providing advice as to how the person could act in the future (e.g. tarot)

Tell the person their future. (e.g. crystal ball gazing)

Providing unknown information (e.g. position of a lost person)

Holding a conversation with a dead person or pet.

Stage Three: The psychic will solicit a donation. It's only fair that people are paid for such mastery of magic!


The person will be asked to donate to the psychic.

The person will may have to give up an 'offering' for removal of a curse.

The victim will purchase a lucky charm, which is lucky.

The victim will pay a set fee or per minute via phone (most of the best psychics are on the phone lines, although it's hard to then, for example, remove curses via chicke ...


You're an idiot
 
2013-05-09 04:17:54 AM

RexTalionis: paulseta: This is shameful.

Either you are the stupidest person on the planet, or this is some sort of a troll.


It could even be sarcasm, theoretically. Some would say that's at least 3 options
 
2013-05-09 04:21:14 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Sylvia Brown is a fraud and a charlatan of extraordinary magnitude

/but if you're stupid enough to believe her bullsh*t, you deserve what you get


I would not call a grieving mother searching for a missing child "stupid." "Desperate," on the other hand...
 
2013-05-09 04:21:32 AM

RexTalionis: You know what's sad? People like Harry Houdini and other magicians and skeptics have been busting spiritualists frauds and psychic seance scams since the turn of the century, but people are still being suckered in by charlatans like Sylvia Browne.

At least back in the old days, spiritualists had to do a real performance to sell their scams complete with belt rigs that "levitate" tables, or table knockers or hiding cheesecloth in the mouth to pull out in the performance as "ectoplasm."

Nowadays, these so-called psychics just do a cold read - a simple dime store trick that any idiot can learn to do in an afternoon.


I knew you were going to say that.
 
2013-05-09 04:24:51 AM

RexTalionis: paulseta: This is shameful.

Either you are the stupidest person on the planet, or this is some sort of a troll.


I think they are joking more than trolling. At least that's my feeling. But then I'm kind of snarky.
 
2013-05-09 04:34:05 AM

doglover: Good rule of thumb: don't pay your magic users until the spell works.


It would be great if we could do that with doctors as well.
 
2013-05-09 04:34:52 AM
Can this please be the straw that breaks the camels back? We've seen this irresponsible, ghastly practice for a long time and sat from the sidelines saying "idiots... fools and their money are soon parted", but people in the pits of despair will turn to anything for hope. I don't blame them, some go for religion, some go for crazy shiat, they need something to hold on to. These people exploit the most deepest, and emotional pain and trauma, and suffering known to us, and profit from it. They lie, cheat and steal. It needs to stop.

Can we please all just pile on immense amounts of pressure so that this con artist doesn't get off lightly, and never gets work as a psychic again? Or how about finally tackling it through regulation? A simple rule, only those psychics who can demonstrate their abilities in front of a panel of judges are allowed to practice as a qualified psychic. I choose the judges.

Psychic bullshiat has to stop, this is one of the most egregious abuses of trust and power I've ever heard of in this field. To think that the mother was so distraught afterward that she never recovered and died a few years later, ostensibly from the stress of it all, is just heart breaking.
 
2013-05-09 04:41:58 AM

Epiphany: Anderson Cooper had me rolling with laughter when he read her statement.

Anderson Cooper: "Sylvia Browne released this statement, which said: (then he reads her statement). She could have just said "I have no shame at all".


With that closing line, I went from being very 'meh' about AC all these years to being a huge fan.
 
2013-05-09 04:42:53 AM
Anyone who knows about psychics should also know that none are ever more than 80% correct. Most good ones tend to be 60%.

99% of psychics will not do things like predict when you'll die nor pick lottery numbers for you.

Psychics run in my family. None do it for money. None do it for fame. Actually, unless you knew them real well, you'd never know they have the gift. None have ever been over 80% correct.

Me, personally, I'm not actually sure about psychic abilities, being able to explain many as 'cold reading' but then there are those incidents where they're just too dead on. A relative of mine is usually 90% correct when asked to locate something lost, like a watch, a coin, a special book. He's around 60% to 70% correct when asked personal questions.

Often I'll consider psychic abilities as simply great perception, like the majority of the magicians do. Other times, I'm not so sure.
Aside from telephone psychics. The majority of them are fake, trained in cold reading.

True psychics don't need a bunch of mumbo jumbo and stage dressing -- like crystals and crystal balls and such. You ask, they answer be it in a diner or sitting on a bus.
 
2013-05-09 04:51:21 AM

Abacus9: doglover: Good rule of thumb: don't pay your magic users until the spell works.

It would be great if we could do that with doctors as well.


We can. If you die, you don't have to pay. In fact, you can sue 'em.
 
2013-05-09 04:52:10 AM

Rik01: True psychics don't need a bunch of mumbo jumbo and stage dressing -- like crystals and crystal balls and such. You ask, they answer be it in a diner or sitting on a bus.


Why would a psychic ever admit to being psychic?

Last I checked, Warren Buffet and Daniel Negreanu are doing just fine....
 
2013-05-09 04:57:43 AM

Rik01: Anyone who knows about psychics knows that none are ever correct. Most good ones tend to be good actors.


FTFY
 
2013-05-09 04:59:19 AM
Sylvia Browne is a despicable money grubbing fraudulent hag who profits from the distress and misfortune of others. If this episode serves any purpose at all, it should be to bring that fact to the attention of a wider audience.
 
2013-05-09 05:00:48 AM

paulseta: This is shameful.


All psychic powers demonstrated cannot be duplicated by con artists, magicians and mentalists.

Psychic powers have been duplicated successfully under close scientific experiment many times. Their nature is not vague and insubstantial. Any con artist who has pretended to be a real psychic has been found out.


People claim that psychic powers are claimed to be had by con artists, and the scam runs in three stages which may be repeated if the victim is willing.

These stages may be combined or rearranged but all three stages will occur.


Stage One: The psychic proves their powers. This can include:-


Telling a client facts about their life through special powers.

Telling a client facts about their life through full trance medium powers.

Performing an impossible feat of physicality. Swamis often claim walking on broken glass, hammering a nail into one's face etc. are proof of special powers.

Have previous clients recommend the psychic. The previous clients are the many, many satisfied customers.


Stage Two: The psychic provides a psychic service. This can include:-


Removal of curses (e.g. slit the throat of a chicken and spray them with the blood - the most common)

Revealing information about the person's personality (e.g. palmistry)

Providing advice as to how the person could act in the future (e.g. tarot)

Tell the person their future. (e.g. crystal ball gazing)

Providing unknown information (e.g. position of a lost person)

Holding a conversation with a dead person or pet.

Stage Three: The psychic will solicit a donation. It's only fair that people are paid for such mastery of magic!


The person will be asked to donate to the psychic.

The person will may have to give up an 'offering' for removal of a curse.

The victim will purchase a lucky charm, which is lucky.

The victim will pay a set fee or per minute via phone (most of the best psychics are on the phone lines, although it's hard to then, for example, remove curses via chicke ...


On a scale of one to ten, you're a dumbass.
 
2013-05-09 05:05:02 AM

doglover: Abacus9: doglover: Good rule of thumb: don't pay your magic users until the spell works.

It would be great if we could do that with doctors as well.

We can. If you die, you don't have to pay. In fact, you can sue 'em.


I'd be so pissed if I die.
 
2013-05-09 05:06:19 AM

Rik01: Anyone who knows about psychics should also know that none are ever more than 80% correct. Most good ones tend to be 60%.

99% of psychics will not do things like predict when you'll die nor pick lottery numbers for you.

Psychics run in my family. None do it for money. None do it for fame. Actually, unless you knew them real well, you'd never know they have the gift. None have ever been over 80% correct.

Me, personally, I'm not actually sure about psychic abilities, being able to explain many as 'cold reading' but then there are those incidents where they're just too dead on. A relative of mine is usually 90% correct when asked to locate something lost, like a watch, a coin, a special book. He's around 60% to 70% correct when asked personal questions.

Often I'll consider psychic abilities as simply great perception, like the majority of the magicians do. Other times, I'm not so sure.
Aside from telephone psychics. The majority of them are fake, trained in cold reading.

True psychics don't need a bunch of mumbo jumbo and stage dressing -- like crystals and crystal balls and such. You ask, they answer be it in a diner or sitting on a bus.


You'd think that even with "only" a 60 percent success rate, at least one psychic in history would have done something really amazing for humanity with his powers that would be celebrated in every history textbook in the world.
 
2013-05-09 05:12:00 AM
I am a psychic.

I see...

I see...

I see a lawsuit in Sylvia Browne's future.

Gimme $5000 for the reading.
 
2013-05-09 05:12:22 AM
The FAIL part isn't with the Brown - she's making her money.

The FAIL part is that there's tons of people out there who continue to believe in this crap and give money.
 
2013-05-09 05:12:51 AM
The military should announce that it will start to register and weaponize psychics. "Why are we not capitalizing on these psychics?" Everyone who's a self-professed psychic will be required to take a mandatory 8-week physically rigorous military course, then sent out to be telepaths, empaths or clairvoyants at active warzones. Let them know in advance that if they fail, they should be tried and sent to a military prison. If they fail and people die, the psychics will be shot.

I guarantee you, the business will naturally die out in a month and none of them will be sent out to war.
 
2013-05-09 05:24:37 AM

paulseta: This is shameful.


All psychic powers demonstrated cannot be duplicated by con artists, magicians and mentalists.

Psychic powers have been duplicated successfully under close scientific experiment many times. Their nature is not vague and insubstantial. Any con artist who has pretended to be a real psychic has been found out.


People claim that psychic powers are claimed to be had by con artists, and the scam runs in three stages which may be repeated if the victim is willing.

These stages may be combined or rearranged but all three stages will occur.


Stage One: The psychic proves their powers. This can include:-


Telling a client facts about their life through special powers.

Telling a client facts about their life through full trance medium powers.

Performing an impossible feat of physicality. Swamis often claim walking on broken glass, hammering a nail into one's face etc. are proof of special powers.

Have previous clients recommend the psychic. The previous clients are the many, many satisfied customers.


Stage Two: The psychic provides a psychic service. This can include:-


Removal of curses (e.g. slit the throat of a chicken and spray them with the blood - the most common)

Revealing information about the person's personality (e.g. palmistry)

Providing advice as to how the person could act in the future (e.g. tarot)

Tell the person their future. (e.g. crystal ball gazing)

Providing unknown information (e.g. position of a lost person)

Holding a conversation with a dead person or pet.

Stage Three: The psychic will solicit a donation. It's only fair that people are paid for such mastery of magic!


The person will be asked to donate to the psychic.

The person will may have to give up an 'offering' for removal of a curse.

The victim will purchase a lucky charm, which is lucky.

The victim will pay a set fee or per minute via phone (most of the best psychics are on the phone lines, although it's hard to then, for example, remove curses via chicke ...


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-09 05:27:45 AM

Aboleth: I guarantee you, the business will naturally die out in a month and none of them will be sent out to war.


How much was the bet, because you owe me as you've lost before it's started.
 
2013-05-09 05:27:52 AM

paulseta: The fact that Amanda is back from the dead due to Sylvia's prayers should make those who criticise her hang their heads in shame. My heart truly went into abasement upon seeing that some people will always point the finger at America's true heroes.


9.5/10. I believed you until this line.
 
2013-05-09 05:29:33 AM
I ran an occult bookstore for five years. I met hundreds of psychics. I wouldn't trust one if he said the sky was blue and the sun came up in the morning.

/Can't believe there's a movie about the Warrens coming out.
 
2013-05-09 05:31:45 AM

Rik01: A relative of mine is usually 90% correct when asked to locate something lost


And parents are generally 100% correct when asked to locate their child's belongings.
It's not psychic, it's logic.
 
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