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2013-05-09 03:20:41 AM
He's a great guy, but I hope he knows that America bores of its "citizen heroes" after about 2 days, and then the backlash begins.

If I were him, I'd do two days of interviews, and then disappear fast.
 
2013-05-09 03:20:57 AM

muck4doo: OgreMagi: Uchiha_Cycliste: hardinparamedic: Uchiha_Cycliste: Who doesn't love ribs? I mean seriously, they are awesome!

Seriously.

You Yankee Cretins don't know what you're missing with a good rack of ribs. Make sure they're wet and messy, like your mom last night.

I assure you, the bay area and the east bay in particular has some awesome ribs and BBQ joints

Bobby's Backdoor BBQ closed.  They were the best.

/Cajun style, it bites back

Bay Area BBQ you need to go to Old Oakland Road in San Jose, and try Jon Jon's. I live in Austin, and that's almost as good as the BBQ I've had here, or in Lockhart. Oakland BBQ isn't that good, but maybe i went to the wrong places. San Francisco BBQ will probably be zucchini.


I'll give it a try some Friday after work. Since I work in Santa Clara and always ride a bike Friday after wok would be the way to go. thanks~!
 
2013-05-09 03:21:26 AM

Epiphany: muck4doo: You can always add another hero.

Sure, and if Ramsay was really there and did what he said, then he helped out. The guy who was there first says Ramsay is full of shiat. Right now its just the two of their words so take whichever side you want. The fact that Ramsay admits he wasn't there first, and the guy who was there first says Ramsay is full of shiat, plus the evidence (I know you dont agree with) that Ramsay is a piece of shiat, leads me to believe he isn't a hero at all and played himself up to the media.

I mean just look at his different interviews, he contradicts himself a lot. My two cents, if for some reason Amanda Berry ever gives a flying fark at all to say if Ramsay was a hero or not, will be the only way we ever know for sure.


I'm sure more truth will come out out as time goes along, but for me the evidence all points out that Ramsey is a hero. I'm sure it will be same in the end. I hate that people are already trying to drag the guy through the mud.

wademh: muck4doo:

Bay Area BBQ you need to go to Old Oakland Road in San Jose, and try Jon Jon's. I live in Austin, and that's almost as good as the BBQ I've had here, or in Lockhart. Oakland BBQ isn't that good, but maybe i went to the wrong places. San Francisco BBQ will probably be zucchini.

Leon's was the place. But Leon has gone to the big BBQ in the sky.


Where is Leon's? Does he have someone he passed things down to? Seriously. The best BBQ I had in the Bay Area was Jon Jon's in San Jose, but would like to try others next time i am there. The Bay Area does so many foods well, but BBQ isn't one of them.
 
2013-05-09 03:24:10 AM

ArcadianRefugee: peasants_are_revolting: Hell, my grandma fried everything

You already said you're from the South. Frying nearly everything is mandatory. And what isn't fried has meat in it (bacon, fatback, ham, something from a pig).

http://stuffsouthernpeoplelike.com/2010/03/10/31-meat-flavored-veget ab les/


That looks really good, actually. Thanks for this.
 
2013-05-09 03:25:07 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: suicide: peasants_are_revolting:
Keep breaking those boundaries, guys. You're like the Rosa Parks of people.

I didn't break any boundaries, and I didn't claim to have, either. We were discussing similarities between poor blacks and poor whites in the South. You're welcome to go suck a bag of dicks.

Oh, I'm just being drunk and sarcastic. Didn't mean much by it. It's fark and it's 3AM, what can I say.

Kill yourself


Nah, I'd have to upset at least six or seven people on fark before I did that.
 
2013-05-09 03:28:19 AM
Good on Mr. Ramsey.
 
2013-05-09 03:28:49 AM

unlikely: J. Frank Parnell: This should do it.

Now all we need is some slack-jawed farktard in the thread to cite that sincerely, to honestly try to take him down a peg.

Kahabut: 3 Domestic violence convictions resulting in prison time. I don't see why we can't hold him up as a black role model, ML King was known to like to beat on women once in a while too.

Thank you for teaching me that once again, my darkest cynicism is not dark enough. You are truly a gem among mankind.


Oh kiddo, you don't have the foggiest idea.
The guy is uneducated, has a criminal background and talks like a drunken twitter feed.  He didn't do anything heroic, he didn't face down death, or even a threat of any kind.  He followed the screams of a woman in desperation.  That's "HUMAN".

The difference between you and him is, he knows who he is.  You still have aspirations that you might actually be intelligent.
 
2013-05-09 03:29:48 AM

duenor: Kahabut: RatMaster999: hubiestubert: Good on him. No jokes. No goofing. Good on the man, plain and simple.

Absolutely.  Can we hold this gentleman up as a black role model, instead of those gangsta rappers?  Actually, scratch that.  He should be a role model for everyone.

3 Domestic violence convictions resulting in prison time.  I don't see why we can't hold him up as a black role model, ML King was known to like to beat on women once in a while too.

He already said he's no hero. He's a role model for what he did (and continues to do), not who he is.
and, 3 Domestic Violence Convictions from his ex wife Rochelle, 6'2 and 230lbs.


So it's ok to hit your wife if she is in your weight class?

You aren't really that dumb are you?
 
2013-05-09 03:31:39 AM

muck4doo: Uchiha_Cycliste: muck4doo: OgreMagi: Uchiha_Cycliste: hardinparamedic: Uchiha_Cycliste: Who doesn't love ribs? I mean seriously, they are awesome!

Seriously.

You Yankee Cretins don't know what you're missing with a good rack of ribs. Make sure they're wet and messy, like your mom last night.

I assure you, the bay area and the east bay in particular has some awesome ribs and BBQ joints

Bobby's Backdoor BBQ closed.  They were the best.

/Cajun style, it bites back

Bay Area BBQ you need to go to Old Oakland Road in San Jose, and try Jon Jon's. I live in Austin, and that's almost as good as the BBQ I've had here, or in Lockhart. Oakland BBQ isn't that good, but maybe i went to the wrong places. San Francisco BBQ will probably be zucchini.

Like I said to OgreMagi, EVERETT AND JONES is an amazing BBQ place, been around forever.

Where is it at?


The Berkeley one (the one I'm familair with ) is at:
1955 San Pablo Ave  Berkeley,  Which is on San Pablo Dam road between University and Hearst, It us like accross the street from the Well Fargo ATMs.
It's great!
 
2013-05-09 03:32:57 AM

Mad_Radhu: Oldiron_79: ManateeGag: Notabunny: This dude's alright. I'd have ribs with him.

racist.

Ribs being a black thing must be a northern thing, down south white people eat ribs too.

This. I grew up in the south, and every white person I knew also couldn't get enough fried chicken and watermelon come summertime. It's not a black thing, it's a SOUTHERN thing.


AND I know several white guys who talk just like this dude.
 
2013-05-09 03:33:23 AM
muck4doo:
Where is Leon's? Does he have someone he passed things down to? Seriously. The best BBQ I had in the Bay Area was Jon Jon's in San Jose, but would like to try others next time i am there. The Bay Area does so many foods well, but BBQ isn't one of them.

We'll see if you change your tune after Everett and jones;)
 
2013-05-09 03:36:16 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: muck4doo: OgreMagi: Uchiha_Cycliste: hardinparamedic: Uchiha_Cycliste: Who doesn't love ribs? I mean seriously, they are awesome!

Seriously.

You Yankee Cretins don't know what you're missing with a good rack of ribs. Make sure they're wet and messy, like your mom last night.

I assure you, the bay area and the east bay in particular has some awesome ribs and BBQ joints

Bobby's Backdoor BBQ closed.  They were the best.

/Cajun style, it bites back

Bay Area BBQ you need to go to Old Oakland Road in San Jose, and try Jon Jon's. I live in Austin, and that's almost as good as the BBQ I've had here, or in Lockhart. Oakland BBQ isn't that good, but maybe i went to the wrong places. San Francisco BBQ will probably be zucchini.

I'll give it a try some Friday after work. Since I work in Santa Clara and always ride a bike Friday after wok would be the way to go. thanks~!


You'll love Jon Jon's. They used to cook all their food on top of 55 gallon drums, and were originally ran by a church for donations. You would see cars lined up at noon waiting for that goodness, after seeing him cooking on those drums in the morning on the way to work. Later the cook just made it a business for himself, and the food quality stayed the same if not better. Don't know what happened to his relationship with his church. Maybe it's the same? Don't know. All I know is as an Austinite I'm exposed to excellent BBQ, and Jon Jon's in San Jose is pretty damn good. I haven't seen anything else even close in the rest of the Bay Area. If you are working in Santa Clara, you aren't terribly far, but they do sell out, and close when they do. Best pre-order.

/Either way, we should get back on to the subject of Ramsey.
//Just googled Dave's Coffee Shop in Oakland, and see it is now closed

>:(
 
2013-05-09 03:44:59 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: muck4doo: Uchiha_Cycliste: muck4doo: OgreMagi: Uchiha_Cycliste: hardinparamedic: Uchiha_Cycliste: Who doesn't love ribs? I mean seriously, they are awesome!

Seriously.

You Yankee Cretins don't know what you're missing with a good rack of ribs. Make sure they're wet and messy, like your mom last night.

I assure you, the bay area and the east bay in particular has some awesome ribs and BBQ joints

Bobby's Backdoor BBQ closed.  They were the best.

/Cajun style, it bites back

Bay Area BBQ you need to go to Old Oakland Road in San Jose, and try Jon Jon's. I live in Austin, and that's almost as good as the BBQ I've had here, or in Lockhart. Oakland BBQ isn't that good, but maybe i went to the wrong places. San Francisco BBQ will probably be zucchini.

Like I said to OgreMagi, EVERETT AND JONES is an amazing BBQ place, been around forever.

Where is it at?

The Berkeley one (the one I'm familair with ) is at:
1955 San Pablo Ave  Berkeley,  Which is on San Pablo Dam road between University and Hearst, It us like accross the street from the Well Fargo ATMs.
It's great!


Will have to check that out next time I'm there. It's been too long since I've been back home. Don't get me wrong though, I love Austin as my new home. Also lived in upstate NY(Catskill, Albany), and Arlington VA, but never considered those places home. California and Texas are the only two places I've loved.
 
2013-05-09 03:47:30 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: hardinparamedic: Uchiha_Cycliste: Who doesn't love ribs? I mean seriously, they are awesome!

Seriously.

You Yankee Cretins don't know what you're missing with a good rack of ribs. Make sure they're wet and messy, like your mom last night.

I assure you, the bay area and the east bay in particular has some awesome ribs and BBQ joints


If it ain't Memphis, St. Louis, or Austin BBQ, it ain't shiat.

/worked plenty of BBQ shacks nationwide
 
2013-05-09 03:48:49 AM

muck4doo: Uchiha_Cycliste: muck4doo: Uchiha_Cycliste: muck4doo: OgreMagi: Uchiha_Cycliste: hardinparamedic: Uchiha_Cycliste: Who doesn't love ribs? I mean seriously, they are awesome!

Seriously.

You Yankee Cretins don't know what you're missing with a good rack of ribs. Make sure they're wet and messy, like your mom last night.

I assure you, the bay area and the east bay in particular has some awesome ribs and BBQ joints

Bobby's Backdoor BBQ closed.  They were the best.

/Cajun style, it bites back

Bay Area BBQ you need to go to Old Oakland Road in San Jose, and try Jon Jon's. I live in Austin, and that's almost as good as the BBQ I've had here, or in Lockhart. Oakland BBQ isn't that good, but maybe i went to the wrong places. San Francisco BBQ will probably be zucchini.

Like I said to OgreMagi, EVERETT AND JONES is an amazing BBQ place, been around forever.

Where is it at?

The Berkeley one (the one I'm familair with ) is at:
1955 San Pablo Ave  Berkeley,  Which is on San Pablo Dam road between University and Hearst, It us like accross the street from the Well Fargo ATMs.
It's great!

Will have to check that out next time I'm there. It's been too long since I've been back home. Don't get me wrong though, I love Austin as my new home. Also lived in upstate NY(Catskill, Albany), and Arlington VA, but never considered those places home. California and Texas are the only two places I've loved.


Awesome! It's only like 6 mile from work, and right near a coworker/friend house. We will definitely try it!.
thanks
 
2013-05-09 03:53:16 AM

muck4doo: Uchiha_Cycliste: muck4doo: Uchiha_Cycliste: muck4doo: OgreMagi: Uchiha_Cycliste: hardinparamedic: Uchiha_Cycliste: Who doesn't love ribs? I mean seriously, they are awesome!

Seriously.

You Yankee Cretins don't know what you're missing with a good rack of ribs. Make sure they're wet and messy, like your mom last night.

I assure you, the bay area and the east bay in particular has some awesome ribs and BBQ joints

Bobby's Backdoor BBQ closed.  They were the best.

/Cajun style, it bites back

Bay Area BBQ you need to go to Old Oakland Road in San Jose, and try Jon Jon's. I live in Austin, and that's almost as good as the BBQ I've had here, or in Lockhart. Oakland BBQ isn't that good, but maybe i went to the wrong places. San Francisco BBQ will probably be zucchini.

Like I said to OgreMagi, EVERETT AND JONES is an amazing BBQ place, been around forever.

Where is it at?

The Berkeley one (the one I'm familair with ) is at:
1955 San Pablo Ave  Berkeley,  Which is on San Pablo Dam road between University and Hearst, It us like accross the street from the Well Fargo ATMs.
It's great!

Will have to check that out next time I'm there. It's been too long since I've been back home. Don't get me wrong though, I love Austin as my new home. Also lived in upstate NY(Catskill, Albany), and Arlington VA, but never considered those places home. California and Texas are the only two places I've loved.


I know what you mean. I've been out of school longer than I was school (Oh my god! I never realized) Anyways, I still miss Berkeley so much and I'm over there every chance that I get. I have two good friends who still live there. I just wish it was feasible to commute from there to Silicon Valley
 
2013-05-09 03:54:22 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: muck4doo: Uchiha_Cycliste: muck4doo: Uchiha_Cycliste: muck4doo: OgreMagi: Uchiha_Cycliste: hardinparamedic: Uchiha_Cycliste: Who doesn't love ribs? I mean seriously, they are awesome!

Seriously.

You Yankee Cretins don't know what you're missing with a good rack of ribs. Make sure they're wet and messy, like your mom last night.

I assure you, the bay area and the east bay in particular has some awesome ribs and BBQ joints

Bobby's Backdoor BBQ closed.  They were the best.

/Cajun style, it bites back

Bay Area BBQ you need to go to Old Oakland Road in San Jose, and try Jon Jon's. I live in Austin, and that's almost as good as the BBQ I've had here, or in Lockhart. Oakland BBQ isn't that good, but maybe i went to the wrong places. San Francisco BBQ will probably be zucchini.

Like I said to OgreMagi, EVERETT AND JONES is an amazing BBQ place, been around forever.

Where is it at?

The Berkeley one (the one I'm familair with ) is at:
1955 San Pablo Ave  Berkeley,  Which is on San Pablo Dam road between University and Hearst, It us like accross the street from the Well Fargo ATMs.
It's great!

Will have to check that out next time I'm there. It's been too long since I've been back home. Don't get me wrong though, I love Austin as my new home. Also lived in upstate NY(Catskill, Albany), and Arlington VA, but never considered those places home. California and Texas are the only two places I've loved.

Awesome! It's only like 6 mile from work, and right near a coworker/friend house. We will definitely try it!.
thanks


Just a heads up. Keep an eye on your bike or make sure it's locked up well. San Jose for the most part is a nice city. There are some places though that are nasty, and that place isn't far from some. There are also homeless camps near that neighborhood. Just saying.
 
2013-05-09 03:54:56 AM

khyberkitsune: Uchiha_Cycliste: hardinparamedic: Uchiha_Cycliste: Who doesn't love ribs? I mean seriously, they are awesome!

Seriously.

You Yankee Cretins don't know what you're missing with a good rack of ribs. Make sure they're wet and messy, like your mom last night.

I assure you, the bay area and the east bay in particular has some awesome ribs and BBQ joints

If it ain't Memphis, St. Louis, or Austin BBQ, it ain't shiat.

/worked plenty of BBQ shacks nationwide


You say that...
So, it's the cook and the recipes that matter right? Well. what if the cook is from one of those places?
 
2013-05-09 03:57:19 AM

muck4doo: Uchiha_Cycliste: muck4doo: Uchiha_Cycliste: muck4doo: Uchiha_Cycliste: muck4doo: OgreMagi: Uchiha_Cycliste: hardinparamedic: Uchiha_Cycliste: Who doesn't love ribs? I mean seriously, they are awesome!

Seriously.

You Yankee Cretins don't know what you're missing with a good rack of ribs. Make sure they're wet and messy, like your mom last night.

I assure you, the bay area and the east bay in particular has some awesome ribs and BBQ joints

Bobby's Backdoor BBQ closed.  They were the best.

/Cajun style, it bites back

Bay Area BBQ you need to go to Old Oakland Road in San Jose, and try Jon Jon's. I live in Austin, and that's almost as good as the BBQ I've had here, or in Lockhart. Oakland BBQ isn't that good, but maybe i went to the wrong places. San Francisco BBQ will probably be zucchini.

Like I said to OgreMagi, EVERETT AND JONES is an amazing BBQ place, been around forever.

Where is it at?

The Berkeley one (the one I'm familair with ) is at:
1955 San Pablo Ave  Berkeley,  Which is on San Pablo Dam road between University and Hearst, It us like accross the street from the Well Fargo ATMs.
It's great!

Will have to check that out next time I'm there. It's been too long since I've been back home. Don't get me wrong though, I love Austin as my new home. Also lived in upstate NY(Catskill, Albany), and Arlington VA, but never considered those places home. California and Texas are the only two places I've loved.

Awesome! It's only like 6 mile from work, and right near a coworker/friend house. We will definitely try it!.
thanks

Just a heads up. Keep an eye on your bike or make sure it's locked up well. San Jose for the most part is a nice city. There are some places though that are nasty, and that place isn't far from some. There are also homeless camps near that neighborhood. Just saying.


Thanks for the heads up. Fortunately my bike doesn't leave my side.
 
2013-05-09 04:04:09 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: So, it's the cook and the recipes that matter right? Well. what if the cook is from one of those places?


I knew plenty of 'cooks' from those places that couldn't BBQ to save their lives. They didn't even know how to run a 200+ rack pit (my primary job besides pull prep and catering.)

I've had plenty of recipes that failed for BBQ, despite excellent skills on the part of the cook.

What most of you consider BBQ isn't even close to true BBQ in the first place. If there ain't a big smoking pit on-site, you're not getting anything close to the real deal. That sauce? Sorry, real BBQ doesn't need sauce, it's naturally juicy due to how it's prepared. A dry rub is all you need, and if you got something really juicy, it becomes a muddy rub as you put it on. Wet rubs are not rubs at all, they're bastes, and anyone calling it a rub should be knocked upside the head. Rubs are dry spice rubs in the world of BBQ, period.

Real BBQ = A real rotary rack inside a wood-fired pit, 48+ hours of nonstop smoking/cooking time at low temps, dry spices, no sauces, and if you dare baste your ribs with anything, it better be fruit-based from a fruit that bears seeds on the inside (in other words, if there's a hint of corn sugar or syrup GTFO.)

Anything else is just a smoker or grill job, and is not BBQ.

Speaking of smoker, I wonder if my salmon's done, yet? Been craving lox.
 
2013-05-09 04:09:44 AM

khyberkitsune: Uchiha_Cycliste: So, it's the cook and the recipes that matter right? Well. what if the cook is from one of those places?

I knew plenty of 'cooks' from those places that couldn't BBQ to save their lives. They didn't even know how to run a 200+ rack pit (my primary job besides pull prep and catering.)

I've had plenty of recipes that failed for BBQ, despite excellent skills on the part of the cook.

What most of you consider BBQ isn't even close to true BBQ in the first place. If there ain't a big smoking pit on-site, you're not getting anything close to the real deal. That sauce? Sorry, real BBQ doesn't need sauce, it's naturally juicy due to how it's prepared. A dry rub is all you need, and if you got something really juicy, it becomes a muddy rub as you put it on. Wet rubs are not rubs at all, they're bastes, and anyone calling it a rub should be knocked upside the head. Rubs are dry spice rubs in the world of BBQ, period.

Real BBQ = A real rotary rack inside a wood-fired pit, 48+ hours of nonstop smoking/cooking time at low temps, dry spices, no sauces, and if you dare baste your ribs with anything, it better be fruit-based from a fruit that bears seeds on the inside (in other words, if there's a hint of corn sugar or syrup GTFO.)

Anything else is just a smoker or grill job, and is not BBQ.

Speaking of smoker, I wonder if my salmon's done, yet? Been craving lox.


Well, I'm pronuncing that Everett and Jones is THE shiat! They have a masive inside fire pit/oven I guess a hearth. And they cook the food (deeoer in) and it stay in there, They open it up and cut you off a big chunk of whatever then serve it to you with a slice of the cheapest white bread they can find.
 
2013-05-09 04:11:50 AM

khyberkitsune: Uchiha_Cycliste: hardinparamedic: Uchiha_Cycliste: Who doesn't love ribs? I mean seriously, they are awesome!

Seriously.

You Yankee Cretins don't know what you're missing with a good rack of ribs. Make sure they're wet and messy, like your mom last night.

I assure you, the bay area and the east bay in particular has some awesome ribs and BBQ joints

If it ain't Memphis, St. Louis, or Austin BBQ, it ain't shiat.

/worked plenty of BBQ shacks nationwide


Love this statement. I'm spoiled with Austin BBQ, but KC and others get things done so right as well. Some of the best ribs i had were in Chicago, of all places. It doesn't feel real though now unless it wax paper.
 
2013-05-09 04:13:44 AM
This guy did a great thing.  However, from what I read in a different story, he never paid child support.  If that's the case and he had a judgement against him, his wife could lay claim to the reward money.  It might get interesting.  It still doesn't take away from what he did.  Good on him.
 
2013-05-09 04:16:04 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Well, I'm pronuncing that Everett and Jones is THE shiat! They have a masive inside fire pit/oven I guess a hearth. And they cook the food (deeoer in) and it stay in there, They open it up and cut you off a big chunk of whatever then serve it to you with a slice of the cheapest white bread they can find.


That's how we do it in Memphis. When a customer orders a pulled pork sandwich, one part of my job is to get into that 180 degree pit and hand-pick that meat right off the shoulder. You even get to watch me do it, as I probe shoulders, slide my gloved hand in and with zero effort slip out the entire shoulder bone, give you the thumbs up and grab a huge chunk of meat, and drop it into the hands of the waiting sandwich maker.
 
2013-05-09 04:18:10 AM

Bigdogdaddy: This guy did a great thing.  However, from what I read in a different story, he never paid child support.  If that's the case and he had a judgement against him, his wife could lay claim to the reward money.  It might get interesting.  It still doesn't take away from what he did.  Good on him.


Reward money and settlement money are essentially judgement-proof, because they don't count as taxable income.

I think there are two states where this has been tested and failed, at state level. Texas, and California.
 
2013-05-09 04:22:07 AM

khyberkitsune: I think there are two states where this has been tested and failed, at state level. Texas, and California.


What I meant to say is that this money being judgement-proof didn't hold in these two states. I know it's held in TN, I saw too many court battles go that way, where some deadbeat doesn't pay child support, but gets hit by a car and gets a HUGE settlement, but that's not taxable income so it can't be held for child support, especially since this money is to repair damages done to him, not to the poor baby mama.
 
2013-05-09 04:30:02 AM

khyberkitsune: Uchiha_Cycliste: Well, I'm pronuncing that Everett and Jones is THE shiat! They have a masive inside fire pit/oven I guess a hearth. And they cook the food (deeoer in) and it stay in there, They open it up and cut you off a big chunk of whatever then serve it to you with a slice of the cheapest white bread they can find.

That's how we do it in Memphis. When a customer orders a pulled pork sandwich, one part of my job is to get into that 180 degree pit and hand-pick that meat right off the shoulder. You even get to watch me do it, as I probe shoulders, slide my gloved hand in and with zero effort slip out the entire shoulder bone, give you the thumbs up and grab a huge chunk of meat, and drop it into the hands of the waiting sandwich maker.


So if you know what's up, and it sounds like my place does too. Can't you admit the possibility it doesn't suck?
 
2013-05-09 04:41:05 AM

Harry_Seldon: AverageAmericanGuy: Is that his back yard? It's pretty big for a guy scratching to get by.

Its Cleveland.


Yeah of course its his backyard. The sort of people who build mcmansions build them right next door to guys like him all the time. Thats how they roll.
 
2013-05-09 04:41:10 AM
Funny how diluted the word hero has become. This is cool and all, but I wouldn't go so far as to call him a "hero."  I reserve that honorable label for guys who made millions playing a kids game and who are also into the penis.
 
2013-05-09 04:48:29 AM
Kahabut:
The guy is uneducated, has a criminal background and talks like a drunken twitter feed.  He didn't do anything heroic, he didn't face down death, or even a threat of any kind.  He followed the screams of a woman in desperation.  That's "HUMAN".

Most people would ignore the screams. Cops would ignore the screams, just like they did with the numerous reports of abuse. You would also ignore the screams because you're so willing to assume that someone else would do the 'human' thing if you just went by your business.

And this guy? He didn't ignore the screams, even though he previously believed the house's owner to be a reputable man; instead, he risked his own reputation to investigate the occurence and then helped an unfamiliar person leave his neighbor's house. Maybe he didn't face down death, but he fought the bystander effect and won - something that is completely impossible for most members of our rotten society. If that is not heroic, I don't know what is.
 
2013-05-09 04:48:45 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: khyberkitsune: Uchiha_Cycliste: So, it's the cook and the recipes that matter right? Well. what if the cook is from one of those places?

I knew plenty of 'cooks' from those places that couldn't BBQ to save their lives. They didn't even know how to run a 200+ rack pit (my primary job besides pull prep and catering.)

I've had plenty of recipes that failed for BBQ, despite excellent skills on the part of the cook.

What most of you consider BBQ isn't even close to true BBQ in the first place. If there ain't a big smoking pit on-site, you're not getting anything close to the real deal. That sauce? Sorry, real BBQ doesn't need sauce, it's naturally juicy due to how it's prepared. A dry rub is all you need, and if you got something really juicy, it becomes a muddy rub as you put it on. Wet rubs are not rubs at all, they're bastes, and anyone calling it a rub should be knocked upside the head. Rubs are dry spice rubs in the world of BBQ, period.

Real BBQ = A real rotary rack inside a wood-fired pit, 48+ hours of nonstop smoking/cooking time at low temps, dry spices, no sauces, and if you dare baste your ribs with anything, it better be fruit-based from a fruit that bears seeds on the inside (in other words, if there's a hint of corn sugar or syrup GTFO.)

Anything else is just a smoker or grill job, and is not BBQ.

Speaking of smoker, I wonder if my salmon's done, yet? Been craving lox.

Well, I'm pronuncing that Everett and Jones is THE shiat! They have a masive inside fire pit/oven I guess a hearth. And they cook the food (deeoer in) and it stay in there, They open it up and cut you off a big chunk of whatever then serve it to you with a slice of the cheapest white bread they can find.


Sounds like it should be. Every good BBQ is served with white bread. In Texas in good BBQ places, you don't get plates. You get served on wax paper. You can grab plastic utensils, but they aren't given to you. You grab them yourselves. Now this is the part of the reason that i don't know is true or not. People say, if you give silver ware or real plates, a whole new tax code comes in place for the restaurant. So most avoid it. Wax paper and plastic sporks go by those rules. White bread is used like tortillas eating Mexican food. Texans love BBQ and Mexican food. Main difference i've noticed between Texas and California with Mexican food is they like flour tortillas in TX, and corn tortillas in CA. I prefer corn tortillas myself.  Just how I was raised. As far as I know, California doesn't tax different whether on plates or not.
 
2013-05-09 04:52:06 AM

unlikely: No.

No no no.

This is the 2000s. We can NOT allow a hero to remain a hero.

SOMEONE will have to find some dirt on this farker. Take him apart. Make him pay.


Didn't take long-
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/cleveland-hero-charles-ramsey -8 702415
 
2013-05-09 04:57:34 AM

Notabunny: ManateeGag: Notabunny: This dude's alright. I'd have ribs with him.

racist.

When I was younger, sure. But now I drive pretty slow.


Funny.  Smart.  (Where are the boxes?)
 
2013-05-09 05:01:01 AM

msbav8r: unlikely: No.

No no no.

This is the 2000s. We can NOT allow a hero to remain a hero.

SOMEONE will have to find some dirt on this farker. Take him apart. Make him pay.

Didn't take long-
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/cleveland-hero-charles-ramsey -8 702415


I can't hear you, this handbasket to Hell we're all in is going too fast.
 
2013-05-09 05:08:31 AM

muck4doo: Uchiha_Cycliste: khyberkitsune: Uchiha_Cycliste: So, it's the cook and the recipes that matter right? Well. what if the cook is from one of those places?

I knew plenty of 'cooks' from those places that couldn't BBQ to save their lives. They didn't even know how to run a 200+ rack pit (my primary job besides pull prep and catering.)

I've had plenty of recipes that failed for BBQ, despite excellent skills on the part of the cook.

What most of you consider BBQ isn't even close to true BBQ in the first place. If there ain't a big smoking pit on-site, you're not getting anything close to the real deal. That sauce? Sorry, real BBQ doesn't need sauce, it's naturally juicy due to how it's prepared. A dry rub is all you need, and if you got something really juicy, it becomes a muddy rub as you put it on. Wet rubs are not rubs at all, they're bastes, and anyone calling it a rub should be knocked upside the head. Rubs are dry spice rubs in the world of BBQ, period.

Real BBQ = A real rotary rack inside a wood-fired pit, 48+ hours of nonstop smoking/cooking time at low temps, dry spices, no sauces, and if you dare baste your ribs with anything, it better be fruit-based from a fruit that bears seeds on the inside (in other words, if there's a hint of corn sugar or syrup GTFO.)

Anything else is just a smoker or grill job, and is not BBQ.

Speaking of smoker, I wonder if my salmon's done, yet? Been craving lox.

Well, I'm pronuncing that Everett and Jones is THE shiat! They have a masive inside fire pit/oven I guess a hearth. And they cook the food (deeoer in) and it stay in there, They open it up and cut you off a big chunk of whatever then serve it to you with a slice of the cheapest white bread they can find.

Sounds like it should be. Every good BBQ is served with white bread. In Texas in good BBQ places, you don't get plates. You get served on wax paper. You can grab plastic utensils, but they aren't given to you. You grab them yourselves. Now this is the part of the reas ...


I had no idea this was a thing. I thought it was just something Everett and Jones did. Neat, I learned something today. =D
 
2013-05-09 06:02:06 AM
Is there any requirement that people like Ramsey be good people?  He helped these girls get free. That is his role here. He's not required to have a clean past or be able to give an intelligent interview. His story, and his utility in this situation is over. Let him alone and move on.
 
2013-05-09 06:04:30 AM
I too would like to invite him to my home for BBQ.
Note to self: Tell neighborhood watch Zimmerman type not to shoot him.
 
2013-05-09 06:37:30 AM
Poor bastard. Nothing like being an internet celebrity. No money, no nothing except having every facet of your life scrutinized. I wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemy.
 
2013-05-09 06:47:02 AM
Sam Malone: Poor bastard. Nothing like being an internet celebrity. No money, no nothing except having every facet of your life scrutinized. I wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemy.

I'd say he could have a speaking career ahead of him.  Seriously.
 
2013-05-09 07:54:39 AM
Ramsey should graciously accept the reward, and maybe make a small donation to the "Missing Children on Milk Cartons" fund.  Those girls, even the alleged runaway, are going go on Oprah, etc. and make bank.  They'll get the whole 15 minutes, he'll get maybe 5.

Anyone seen hide or hair of Kai, the "smash smash suh-MASH!" guy lately?
 
2013-05-09 08:00:25 AM

Epiphany: muck4doo: What I know is who I heard calling the police. It wasn't anyone else than Ramsey and Berry I heard on the phone calls

The guy doesn't speak english (the first one who was there), and Amanda Berry used the phone that was at the house that 1st guy was visiting. From what was reported, it sounded like he was poor and ate a lot of his meals at the house across the street from the crime scene, so he probably didnt have a cell phone.


Cordedo also stated he helped Ramsey break down the door.  So we should trust new guy just because he is new?  Seriously, let's let the news media get their facts straight, this story is developing and has a lot of public interest.  There will be more info coming out.
 
2013-05-09 08:07:44 AM
I hope he gets the reward money, and I hope it doesn't come at the expense of the victims in any way.  He did a good thing.  Fark his past, nobody's perfect.  The man deserves a healthy dose of karma.
 
2013-05-09 08:11:16 AM

chuggernaught: Epiphany: muck4doo: What I know is who I heard calling the police. It wasn't anyone else than Ramsey and Berry I heard on the phone calls

The guy doesn't speak english (the first one who was there), and Amanda Berry used the phone that was at the house that 1st guy was visiting. From what was reported, it sounded like he was poor and ate a lot of his meals at the house across the street from the crime scene, so he probably didnt have a cell phone.

Cordedo also stated he helped Ramsey break down the door.  So we should trust new guy just because he is new?  Seriously, let's let the news media get their facts straight, this story is developing and has a lot of public interest.  There will be more info coming out.


Sorry, got his name wrong, it's Mr. Cordero.  Seriously though, these two sentences from the article.  Did he just lie, was it poor writing, or poor translation from Spanish?  This don't make no sense.

"But the truth who arrived there, who crossed the street, who came and broke the door, it was me."

Cordero said he and other neighbors helped Ramsey break down the door of the Seymore Ave. home.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cleveland-neighbor-charles- ra msey-freed-captive-women-article-1.1338192
 
2013-05-09 08:13:00 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: unlikely: No.

No no no.

This is the 2000s. We can NOT allow a hero to remain a hero.

SOMEONE will have to find some dirt on this farker. Take him apart. Make him pay.

He said he is a Christian

So he better brace himself.


Get off your cross Tpoc, Christ called, he wants it back.
 
2013-05-09 08:13:12 AM

chuggernaught: chuggernaught: Epiphany: muck4doo: What I know is who I heard calling the police. It wasn't anyone else than Ramsey and Berry I heard on the phone calls

The guy doesn't speak english (the first one who was there), and Amanda Berry used the phone that was at the house that 1st guy was visiting. From what was reported, it sounded like he was poor and ate a lot of his meals at the house across the street from the crime scene, so he probably didnt have a cell phone.

Cordedo also stated he helped Ramsey break down the door.  So we should trust new guy just because he is new?  Seriously, let's let the news media get their facts straight, this story is developing and has a lot of public interest.  There will be more info coming out.

Sorry, got his name wrong, it's Mr. Cordero.  Seriously though, these two sentences from the article.  Did he just lie, was it poor writing, or poor translation from Spanish?  This don't make no sense.

"But the truth who arrived there, who crossed the street, who came and broke the door, it was me."

Cordero said he and other neighbors helped Ramsey break down the door of the Seymore Ave. home.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cleveland-neighbor-charles- ra msey-freed-captive-women-article-1.1338192


Ramsey's interview with Anderson Cooper reveals that Cordero was on his way to the house first and gestured for Ramset to come over. Chuck isn't taking all the credit for the rescue.
 
2013-05-09 08:29:58 AM
wademh: muck4doo:

Bay Area BBQ you need to go to Old Oakland Road in San Jose, and try Jon Jon's. I live in Austin, and that's almost as good as the BBQ I've had here, or in Lockhart. Oakland BBQ isn't that good, but maybe i went to the wrong places. San Francisco BBQ will probably be zucchini.

Leon's was the place. But Leon has gone to the big BBQ in the sky.

Where is Leon's? Does he have someone he passed things down to? Seriously. The best BBQ I had in the Bay Area was Jon Jon's in San Jose, but would like to try others next time i am there. The Bay Area does so many foods well, but BBQ isn't one of them.


www.leonsbarbq.com
http://www.leonsbarbq.com/catering.htm

Don't know the latest. I've moved far away but I used to live close by and enjoyed me some ribs.
 
2013-05-09 08:38:02 AM

unlikely: No.

No no no.

This is the 2000s. We can NOT allow a hero to remain a hero.

SOMEONE will have to find some dirt on this farker. Take him apart. Make him pay.


Didn't take long.
 
2013-05-09 08:40:01 AM

TV's Vinnie: borg: TV's Vinnie: Of course, the bigots at Drudge are talking about this guy being a "serial domestic abuser". Obama's not the only blah guy the right wing hates.

The "bigots" at Drudge?  Drudge is FARK without the user comments. It's just links to the same news sites and stories linked here.  If Drudge is bigoted then so is Fark.

The why doesn't Drudge have the balls to allow users to make comments? They afraid of what will happen?


Dog whistles don't work if you have people in the comments not being subtle about it.
 
2013-05-09 08:41:45 AM
He is the only internet celebrity that I would like to see monetarily compensated for hoa actions.
 
2013-05-09 09:16:29 AM

Bigdogdaddy: This guy did a great thing.  However, from what I read in a different story, he never paid child support.  If that's the case and he had a judgement against him, his wife could lay claim to the reward money.  It might get interesting.  It still doesn't take away from what he did.  Good on him.


If he turned it down to spite his ex's and children, then not good on him.  If he is given a chance to repair the damage he has caused his own family and refuses it out of spite, how could that be good?  Now if the money would just be for himself, then fine good on him for giving it over to those girls.  I am sure many other people will be taking care of these girls for the next couple years.  Life will get tough for them again in a few years when no one remembers their story and they have to join the rest of us in normal life, which right now they are not prepared for.
 
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