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(Charleston Daily Mail)   Man dies after shooting down power lines for their copper. At a certain point isn't it just easier to get a real job?   (dailymail.com) divider line 73
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2013-05-09 02:50:37 AM
Not to trust the Wikipedia, but it says aluminum.

"[A]luminium is lighter, yields only marginally reduced performance, and costs much less [than copper]."
 
2013-05-09 03:10:24 AM
I could had sworn sometime back that I read/heard that aluminum wiring was a safety issue in houses but I don't recall why.
 
2013-05-09 03:25:04 AM

C18H27NO3: I could had sworn sometime back that I read/heard that aluminum wiring was a safety issue in houses but I don't recall why.


Oxidation. It isn't a problem in the wires themselves, but at the connections to other things (circuits breakers, fixtures/outlets, even splices). Also, apparently aluminum expands/contracts more from heating/cooling than does copper, which can result in connections coming loose over time.
 
2013-05-09 03:41:53 AM

Ivo Shandor: Kahabut: violentsalvation: Aren't those lines aluminum?

No.

Please don't take up electrical engineering.

Are you sure they weren't aluminum? It's a decent conductor and it's cheaper and lighter than copper. It was even used for residential AC wiring in some older buildings (like mine).


Conduction isn't really the point, it's the environmental behavior that would generally discourage aluminum use.  For one thing, it expands a rather lot more than copper when heated, and contracts more when cooled.  That alone would be enough reason to not use it in most places, but it also doesn't erode politely.  Electrolysis between aluminum parts and steel structures is a bad thing.  Not to mention containment.  Did you know you have to contain all that high voltage electricity or it will straight up jump off the wire and go running around the area?  I'm talking EMF of course.

I'm not a lineman, so I'm no expert, but we rarely use aluminum as a conductor in anything else, there are lots of reasons for that.  (electrical conductor, every one of us has aluminum heat conductors in our houses/phones/cars/computers)
 
2013-05-09 05:12:51 AM

cwolf20: It's going to be a leetle harder for some people here in my city in June.  The state of Tennessee decided that the unemployment office in Nashville can handle any unemployment requests in Johnson City.  If anyone wants to go and sit in it to use the computers there to look for a job, they have a long way to drive.

Then there's the website which apparently no longer will allow applications to be saved an entire year.  And people have to re-fill one for every job entry.

Ah, knowing a private business tech guy that works on the computers in the unemployment office, and on the servers for the website as needed.


How is this even legal?  That's like a 6 hour drive or some shiat, and they're both respectably big cities.  You might as well put an unemployment office on top of a high mountain with no roads and make people hike a couple of hours to get there!
 
2013-05-09 06:19:48 AM
That's about right.
 
2013-05-09 06:45:21 AM

ArcadianRefugee: C18H27NO3: I could had sworn sometime back that I read/heard that aluminum wiring was a safety issue in houses but I don't recall why.

Oxidation. It isn't a problem in the wires themselves, but at the connections to other things (circuits breakers, fixtures/outlets, even splices). Also, apparently aluminum expands/contracts more from heating/cooling than does copper, which can result in connections coming loose over time.



This.  The real issue there is when it's in contact with something made of another material, which doesn't expand the same.  Forming those loose connections isn't a rare thing - and it causes fires.  Aluminum wires are also a lot more dangerous if you've got a situation where people are going to handle the stuff, bending it and attaching it to stuff and bending it back and screwing it in to a panel when they're done, because it's more brittle.  It isn't so much an issue in these lines where you just string them up, connect them with more aluminum, and leave it.

Still doesn't react well with high velocity lead, though.
 
2013-05-09 06:53:57 AM

farkingismybusiness: You'll never take me alive, copper!


+1
 
2013-05-09 06:56:30 AM

cwolf20: It's going to be a leetle harder for some people here in my city in June.  The state of Tennessee decided that the unemployment office in Nashville can handle any unemployment requests in Johnson City.  If anyone wants to go and sit in it to use the computers there to look for a job, they have a long way to drive.

Then there's the website which apparently no longer will allow applications to be saved an entire year.  And people have to re-fill one for every job entry.

Ah, knowing a private business tech guy that works on the computers in the unemployment office, and on the servers for the website as needed.


Cracking down on people riding benefits is fine...but making it harder for people LOOKING for work seems...not helpful.
Maybe I misunderstood...
 
2013-05-09 07:40:48 AM
Norris was charged with attempt to commit a felony, conspiracy to commit a felony

That reminds me of the time I got a speeding ticket and a conspiracy to speed ticket.
 
2013-05-09 07:56:59 AM
Well played ads.....well played....

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2013-05-09 08:18:40 AM

GreenSun: Of course it's easier to earn money IF you get hired for a job.


But you can't get hired for a job with a face tattoo.
 
2013-05-09 09:09:56 AM
Wow...a lot of people talking out of their asses.  Just to clear things up.

1. You don't use aluminum for residential wiring if there is any copper anywhere. It will burn down your house at the junction between copper and aluminum.

2. You pretty much never use copper for high voltage overhead lines. It is too heavy and expensive.  You use this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACSR

The different sizes are named after various birds.
 
2013-05-09 10:32:23 AM

moothemagiccow: One Fayette County man is dead after he and an accomplice tried to steal copper wire by shooting down high-tension power lines with a rifle, authorities said

And nothing of value was lost. Time for a West Virginia tag?


The wire itself was broken.
 
2013-05-09 10:59:50 AM
No, because a job demands you be on time and wear pants.
 
2013-05-09 11:09:48 AM

Hollie Maea: 1. You don't use aluminum for residential wiring if there is any copper anywhere. It will burn down your house at the junction between copper and aluminum.


It's not used in new construction but there's still some of it out there. My building has survived 40 years without burning down, maybe thanks to all of the asbestos in the walls.

You do have to use special hardware with it. There are "CO/ALR" rated outlets and switches, and wire nuts to join it to copper.
 
2013-05-09 11:45:18 AM

Hrist: cwolf20: It's going to be a leetle harder for some people here in my city in June.  The state of Tennessee decided that the unemployment office in Nashville can handle any unemployment requests in Johnson City.  If anyone wants to go and sit in it to use the computers there to look for a job, they have a long way to drive.

Then there's the website which apparently no longer will allow applications to be saved an entire year.  And people have to re-fill one for every job entry.

Ah, knowing a private business tech guy that works on the computers in the unemployment office, and on the servers for the website as needed.

How is this even legal?  That's like a 6 hour drive or some shiat, and they're both respectably big cities.  You might as well put an unemployment office on top of a high mountain with no roads and make people hike a couple of hours to get there!


Because the interwebs are faster, yet slower because they don't save the applications anymore.
 
2013-05-09 11:46:45 AM

PunGent: cwolf20: It's going to be a leetle harder for some people here in my city in June.  The state of Tennessee decided that the unemployment office in Nashville can handle any unemployment requests in Johnson City.  If anyone wants to go and sit in it to use the computers there to look for a job, they have a long way to drive.

Then there's the website which apparently no longer will allow applications to be saved an entire year.  And people have to re-fill one for every job entry.

Ah, knowing a private business tech guy that works on the computers in the unemployment office, and on the servers for the website as needed.

Cracking down on people riding benefits is fine...but making it harder for people LOOKING for work seems...not helpful.
Maybe I misunderstood...


I don't know if they're cracking down on the benefit ride thing or not. I just know that the computers are more up to date than the newspaper job opportunity sections.
 
2013-05-09 11:47:26 AM

Slaves2Darkness: No, because a job demands you be on time and wear pants.


Unless you're a stripper.  But you still have to be wearing them when you walk in.
 
2013-05-09 12:26:23 PM
So this guy successfully shot a wire with a high-powered rifle, presumably from at least 10 yards away if he was on the ground.

I would think that someone should be able to turn that sort of accuracy into a job somehow.

/ Perhaps he could ebay stuff he won at the local carnival games.
// I've heard Jamaican Dreadlocked Bananas go for upwards of $2600.
 
2013-05-09 01:21:21 PM
Protip:  Shoot both ends of the wire you are trying to steal in order to totally disconnect it from the grid.
 
2013-05-09 03:15:45 PM
What I don't get is, how do people not understand (as adults) that electricity can kill you?

FTFA: "Fayette deputies and rangers from the National Parks Service found the man's body tangled up in downed lines Wednesday morning in the Beury Mountain Wildlife Management Area near Thurmond. The apparent cause of death was electrocution."

LOL

I don't even feel bad about laughing. I bet the guys who came to fix the lines didn't, either.
 
2013-05-09 08:12:14 PM
Here's what someone sent to me along with a link to the story.


Ohm my goodness watt a revolting situation. A West Virginia man is no longer a current resident of Earth. He got all amped up in an attempt to steal some copper from the power company. He was punished by being grounded. My work here is done. Cu later. I'm surprised nobody else has come up with the mandatory electrical puns.
 
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