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(Seattle Weekly)   Confessions of a pho hater in Seattle. "Disowning pho is like telling a vegan how much you love KFC"   (seattleweekly.com) divider line 503
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2013-05-08 06:15:47 PM  
When you get to the real Vietnam, you find out how supersized everything is in America. The Pho Tai in Vietnam costs typically just about a dollar give or take about 3000 dong. It's served in a bowl way smaller than would be seen in America. On the other hand, the restaurants typically give you unlimited availability of basil, greens, sprouts, limes, jalapenos, and sauce. And it's filling in the quantity given. Like Seattle, it's available any time of the day, but the place in Saigon near where I stay during summers only serves it for breakfast or dinner, no lunch.
 
2013-05-08 06:16:34 PM  

show me: Oh, and one of the best pho places I've been to was The Best Little Pho House in Texas, on Lamar(?) Street in Austin.


Austin sucks.
 
2013-05-08 06:17:12 PM  

Peki: noitsnot: hoisin

Speaking of pronounciation: Is this "hoy-zin"? The French in me is too strong, the first time pronounced it "hwa-ZAN", and everyone laughed.


The French is strong in this one...
 
2013-05-08 06:19:20 PM  
I understand the her hate for it. When the first iPhone came out those farkers would not STFU about it, to the point I wanted to punch them
 
2013-05-08 06:20:09 PM  
I just put Hoisin on the noodles as they are wrapped around the chopstick. I really don't add Sriracha except maybe on a noodle bite, because Sriracha really covers up the delicious broth that is deliciouser by the limesqueeze and greens addition.
 
2013-05-08 06:22:49 PM  
Try bun bo hue, if you haven't.

Yes, you there.  I'm talking to you.
 
2013-05-08 06:23:00 PM  
If I want asian noodle soup gimme some udon with beef.
 
2013-05-08 06:23:18 PM  

Kevin72: I just put Hoisin on the noodles as they are wrapped around the chopstick. I really don't add Sriracha except maybe on a noodle bite, because Sriracha really covers up the delicious broth that is deliciouser by the limesqueeze and greens addition.


www.wired.com
 
2013-05-08 06:24:01 PM  

noitsnot: fartacus: Gonz: I had pho for lunch today- yes, with added Sriracha- so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

//From Trader Joe's, too.

Adding Sriracha to pho is for philistines - it masks the flavor of the broth. You're supposed to dip the meat in the sriracha.

Do what you want, but please shut up about what I should do:

1) Get Pho Dac Biet so it has every possible cow part in it (maybe even add a meatball)
2) Shred up the Basil and dump it in
3) All all the Jalepeno slices they gave you - rip them up if they are really big
4) Add a reasonable amount of the Bean Sprouts, if they don't look E-Coli ridden
5) Squeeze a good honk of Lime juice in - taste - repeat but don't go too far
6) Get Sriracha bottle - wipe crust funk off nozzle - hose in a ton (about five circles around the bowl)
7) Taste - add some hoisin if it needs to be a little sweeter


I was with you until you put the sriracha and hoisin in it. You must go to pho restaurants with crappy broth if you want to destroy the flavor like that. And while pho dac biet is good, but pho tai nam gau gan sach is better... add a plate of raw eye round steak on the side for extra goodness.
 
2013-05-08 06:24:28 PM  

noitsnot: Peki: noitsnot: hoisin

Speaking of pronounciation: Is this "hoy-zin"? The French in me is too strong, the first time pronounced it "hwa-ZAN", and everyone laughed.

The French is strong in this one...


*hangs head*

Guilty as charged.
 
2013-05-08 06:24:32 PM  
What I made for dinner:

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I would never make it as a foodie. I like eating too much.
 
2013-05-08 06:25:59 PM  

VivianVivisect: GWSuperfan: fartacus: Actually, it's actually pronounced "fuh".

Yep- and for the folks in DC, Froggy Bottom Pub (2142 Pennsylvania, NW) has GREAT Pho. The owners are Vietnamese, and it's cheap, homemade deliciousness.

In one of my meetings with the Orange County Register and the OCTA we had a social media luncheon in "Little Siagon" and our coordinator said it's "Fah", he corrected me many times.


There you go, that explains it. Your coordinator was wrong.
 
2013-05-08 06:30:01 PM  
Never had Pho, sounds like top ramen to me. Noodles with salty broth, lol. That being said, I's be willing to give it a try if it were available around here. Atlantic Canada doesn't have the great amount of various food cultures that other places do.
 
2013-05-08 06:31:00 PM  

maxheck: What I made for dinner:

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[i42.tinypic.com image 600x800]

I would never make it as a foodie. I like eating too much.


See, I'm not sure I see the diff between that and chicken noodle soup. Is this a hipster thing I'm not getting?

/will laugh her butt off if that actually is chicken noodle
 
2013-05-08 06:35:58 PM  
Peki:

maxheck: What I made for dinner:

[i41.tinypic.com image 600x800]
[i42.tinypic.com image 600x800]

I would never make it as a foodie. I like eating too much.

See, I'm not sure I see the diff between that and chicken noodle soup. Is this a hipster thing I'm not getting?

/will laugh her butt off if that actually is chicken noodle


Well, no... That is in fact plain old chicken-noodle soup and egg bread. Pretty much as basic and unhip a meal as one can make.
(berp) and quite tasty.
 
2013-05-08 06:35:58 PM  

Corvus: [upload.wikimedia.org image 800x600] I'll take Bahn-mi over Pho any day.


My mother in law makes these and she puts this pate in there that tastes like battery acid.  That is all.

/CSB
 
2013-05-08 06:36:45 PM  
Who? What?
 
2013-05-08 06:38:14 PM  

maxheck: I would never make it as a foodie. I like eating too much.


I don't describe myself as a "foodie", but from what I've read on Fark, most on here would.  You like eating too much? The last time I went to a really cool restaurant, four of us ordered the entire menu.  I like eating.
 
2013-05-08 06:50:09 PM  

Calmamity: This reminds me of the 5 or 6 times I tried coke in college. Friends kept insisting that I must not have liked it because I tried someone's shiatty coke and this time I was really going to like it.

Great, now the back of my throat is numb and it is making me want to barf and I'm talking to an asshole about nothing. Yay?

On the other hand, if any of you kids out there want to score free drugs, pretend not to like them. Your friends will go broke trying to impress you.


This. Had pretty much the same experiences, coke and meth both.
 
2013-05-08 06:55:13 PM  

maxheck: FrancoFile:

maxheck: FrancoFile:

dabbletech: From Wiki: The broth for beef phở is generally made by simmering beef bones, oxtails, flank steak, charred onion, charred ginger and spices. For a more intense flavor, the bones may still have beef on them. Chicken bones also work and produce a similar broth. Seasonings can include Saigon cinnamon or other kinds of cinnamon as alternatives (may use stick or powder), star anise, roasted ginger, roasted onion, black cardamom, coriander seed, fennel seed, and clove. The broth takes several hours to make.[13][14] For chicken phở, only the meat and bones of the chicken are used in place of beef and beef bone. The remaining spices remain the same, but the charred ginger can be omitted, since its function in beef phở is to get rid of the "cow's smell"

Lovely.

You know how I know you've never made stock?

Having a roast chicken carcass burbling away downstairs as I write... Kick, replies...

/ enjoying the rosemary-chickeney smell every time I go downstairs.

See your carcass, raise you the clam risotto I'm making tonight.

Yeah, but you probably didn't make a loaf of egg bread to go with it, and that trumps all. So :P 

/ mmmm... Eggy bread baking smell...


Nope.
But my Gruner Veltlinir Kir is tasting pretty damned good right now.
 
2013-05-08 06:57:55 PM  
I like me some pho.  Green Leaf has food and pho that I like a lot.  One of the many restaurants I miss since leaving Seattle.  I don't miss Seattle, just the food.....Oh! and July and August.  Its very pretty in those months and it almost makes you forget the perpetual 9 to 10 months of March, 45 and rainy.
 
2013-05-08 06:59:17 PM  
Opinions are fine - until your workplace insists on going out for Pho or Sushi for every single event/new hire, etc.

I don't like these things. I don't care if you do - and when you say "We're all going to [pho/sushi]" and I say "Oh, okay, enjoy yourselves!" don't act all bewildered that I don't want to come pay $15 for all you can eat gristle (i.e. the non-sushi stuff the sushi place serves) and salt.

15 people paid $20 each after tip and drink etc. for all you can eat food that is completely unhealthy and the thing is - the company we work for provides grills on the patio! How about we pool HALF that money and take the $150 to the store, buy a bunch of fresh produce. and steak and cook it all up together "as a team", sharing recipes or spices or whatever, and buy a case of beer. Way more bang for your buck.

No, let's go to the awkward shiatty hole in the wall where you have to rub elbows and you can't really get up to go to the bathroom without inconveniencing every single person there and your food comes randomly and not at all timed together.

I suspect it's all just "ooh, like at me, I'm so cultured" nonsense. Virtually every person there has a smug kind of confidence but also constantly looks around to make sure you know they are using chopsticks.

So I like steak, potatoes and veggies. Let me be.
 
2013-05-08 07:01:39 PM  
What the hell is Pho and Banh Mi?
 
2013-05-08 07:09:39 PM  
This thread made me go to my fridge and grab a pickled okra.
 
2013-05-08 07:11:04 PM  

factoryconnection: Plus, since the Seattle Times no doubt has a large chunk of readership that falls into the food hipster category, this type of article is bound to generate a lot of clicks and comments.


had this been published in the Seattle Times you might have been on to something
 
2013-05-08 07:15:16 PM  

exick: The only drawback of pho for me is the exorbitant amount of cilantro I have to deal with. Basil, ginger, fish sauce, broth, meat, noodles are all great. And then I get to the farking forest of cilantro. Gorrammit!


First thing I do with pho is fish out the bits of cilantro that are inevitable going to be in it.  It's ok, as seasonings go, but in something lighter flavored like pho it quickly overwhelms any other taste.
 
2013-05-08 07:16:06 PM  
Pho Finnish?

Nope. Vietnamese.
 
2013-05-08 07:16:32 PM  
"I really love food. I've been known to get giggly or even teary-eyed when I eat something really good. I can name you plates I've had that have changed how I look at the world."

Author needs to learn to masturbate better


Additionally, even if I really hate something I've eaten, I will try it on at least two different occasions. After that, I give up and move on to better things.
Well that's better.  It's that kind of thinking that made me take another bite of a Limburger cheese sandwich but jesus, you know, get a life.
 
2013-05-08 07:17:22 PM  

OscarTamerz: Pho sucks, it's for the tards who were actually stupid enough to eat ramen and like it.

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Banh cuon is the food of the gods.  If you're ever in The OC go to little Saigon and get yourself some.  It's like a super good and flavorful Vietnamese enchilada.


I love ramen, but only the real kind, and my favorite is with kimchi, and I make it myself since I live in a real-japanese-food-lacking area.  Sometimes people just like a good noodle soup :P

The Banh cuon looks delicious, I'll have to find it or make it myself.
 
2013-05-08 07:24:25 PM  

itazurakko: bborchar: Yeah, I'm not sure how this is much different than making ANY kind of stock.  It takes my chicken stock about 4-5 hours (because I like a really flavorful broth and cook it down), but it's meat+vegetables+spices+time=any kind of stock you make.

It's why "some sort of noodles in a really amazing long-simmering stock" is such a popular street food - it's really only economical to do in huge batches, but if you have high throughput, you can make the stuff really fast and really cheap.  
 
I miss noodle stalls and cheap noodle houses something fierce.  Beats the heck out of standard US "fast food" any day.
 
When it comes to Western food though a good fried chicken and fries is similar too, easy to make lots and cheap and fast if you're making it for hordes at a restaurant or booth and just keep that oil going, but at home, not so much.


Yeah, living in Japan I fell in love with all of the street stalls and small restaurants (even Yoshinoya made a decent late night meal if I wanted something cheap).  I will say that Japanese food (like many asian foods) took me a little while to get used to, though- but when I did, it was so much better than the greasy stuff you find in the US.  And now I have to make my own food, since good asian restaurants here are few and far between- I want to go to NYC again when I'm NOT pregnant and dying of nausea, lol.  You can't beat a good dashi stock for ramen.
 
2013-05-08 07:25:25 PM  
What the hell is pho, and why should I give a fark?
 
2013-05-08 07:29:20 PM  
Only eats Pho from food trucks:

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2013-05-08 07:30:12 PM  

brap: That's great, um, maybe you should order something else.  Like something you enjoy.   *ten minutes of awkward silence*

What do you want a gold star sticker?


Because, as apparently you missed, people act like she murdered a baby every time she says she doesn't like it.  And because people won't simply drop it, but insist on dragging her to restaurants so she can try pho AGAIN.

I have the same issue with eels.  I hate eels.  I've tried them cooked in just about every way you can imagine, in different restaurants in different countries, and they've been awful every time.  And still friends will tell me  how wrong I am and how I must try it at their place and add just the right amount of something and not doing this is why I didn't like it --- exactly like the author's experience with pho.  And, again, they won't let it fracking drop.

It's not like I go around with a t-shirt that has "I hate eels" printed on it.  But it does come up from time to time.
 
2013-05-08 07:30:17 PM  
Pho is one of the least exciting Asian food options around. I can't see why it is worth getting excited about either way.
 
2013-05-08 07:32:09 PM  

cannotsuggestaname: STOP LIKING THINGS I DON'T LIKE!



In this case, it's more like "Strop trying to force me to like things I don't."
 
2013-05-08 07:35:44 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I feel the same way about sushi. I'm considered a philistine because I farking HATE fish!


Not really aimed at you per se, but for people who have tried sushi but don't like it (but possibly excluding those who simply hate fish altogether), I recommend ceviche.  I very rarely eat fish because I hate that "fishy" taste but good ceviche does  not have that "fishy" tasteat all.
 
2013-05-08 07:41:29 PM  

ciberido: ecmoRandomNumbers: I feel the same way about sushi. I'm considered a philistine because I farking HATE fish!

   I hate that "fishy" taste but good ceviche does  not have that "fishy" tasteat all.



I can take your wife/girlfriend away I betcha.
 
2013-05-08 07:43:53 PM  

tortilla burger: Pho is not a hipster food. It's very much a working man type of food; it's made with relatively common ingredients, there's little in the way of fancy cooking methods or obscure preparations. And pho is exactly the type of thing you'd eat when you're hung over and need something to pick you up. It really doesn't fit the profile of a hipster/foodie favorite



Except for the fact that pho is Vietnamese, which makes it exotic to most people living in North America.  And being exotic or something "you've probably never heard of" is a significant part of being a hipster/foodie favorite.
 
2013-05-08 07:43:53 PM  

Kanemano: Pho from the best place in Hanoi, open since 1945, unmatched in the states, cost $2.50


The Kraft mac and cheese in the other bowl looks better...
 
2013-05-08 07:44:57 PM  
The absolute #1 soup I've ever had is my grandma's albondigas.  It will never be surpassed.

Pho is certainly in the close battle for second, though.
On any given day it could be pho or it could be caldo de res:
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or tom kha:
hungrynative.com

or good ole' chicken noodle:
www.davita.com

Soup is so flippin' wonderful.
 
2013-05-08 07:45:03 PM  
What noodle-making in Cambodia might look like:

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aaand... For some reason I got distracted and didn't document the rest of the process.
 
2013-05-08 07:48:23 PM  

Kanemano: [fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net image 850x637] Pho from the best place in Hanoi, open since 1945, unmatched in the states, cost $2.50


You post this without a name or address!?!? I was justin Ha Noi this past Christmas and had Pho at least once a day. But I'd have to say my favorite meal was cooking outdoor on the sidewalk sitting on little blue stools.
 
2013-05-08 07:55:53 PM  

TreehouseEngineer: Kanemano: [fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net image 850x637] Pho from the best place in Hanoi, open since 1945, unmatched in the states, cost $2.50

You post this without a name or address!?!? I was justin Ha Noi this past Christmas and had Pho at least once a day. But I'd have to say my favorite meal was cooking outdoor on the sidewalk sitting on little blue stools.


So you got distracted by the Asian chick in the yellow shirt too, I see.
 
2013-05-08 08:00:36 PM  

moothemagiccow: KFC makes terrible fried chicken


You SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!
 
2013-05-08 08:01:43 PM  

Gawdzila: The absolute #1 soup I've ever had is my grandma's albondigas.  It will never be surpassed.

Pho is certainly in the close battle for second, though.
On any given day it could be pho or it could be caldo de res:
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or tom kha:
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or good ole' chicken noodle:
[www.davita.com image 430x288]

Soup is so flippin' wonderful.


Thai Thom Kha soup has been one of my most persistent pregnancy cravings, I kid you not. I have dreams about that stuff.
 
2013-05-08 08:02:56 PM  
Good friend of mine taught English in Hanoi for 3 months and came back with an abiding love for Vietnamese food.
Not just pho, but for Vietnamese flavors in general and Northern Vietnamese in particular; it is her absolute favorite country for food, and she has hung out in quite a few far flung countries.  After hunting down some good Northern Vietnamese in L.A., I have to say that it is way, way up there.  It's a pretty unique flavor profile with heavy use of fish sauce, a lot of lightly-sweetened dishes (usually with palm sugar I think), and lots of herbaceous flavors like cilantro and mint in particular.  Not too spicy, unlike their neighbor Thailand.  Sounds weird maybe, but it is extremely good food.
 
2013-05-08 08:03:08 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: It's soup. Broth soup. It began as poor-people's street food. How exciting is it supposed to be?


but its from *authentic* poor people, so it is therefore exciting and the only true way of eating.

I mean, isnt it everyone's dream to move into a Vietnamese neighborhood where you can get some good authentic Pho, and drive up the rents so the Vietnamese all have to move out?
 
2013-05-08 08:16:41 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Thai Thom Kha soup has been one of my most persistent pregnancy cravings, I kid you not. I have dreams about that stuff.


I believe you.  I crave it often and I'm not even being manipulated by the bizarre nutritional cravings of a proto-human ;)
It's just great, one of the most unique soups I've ever eaten.  The bright lime and lemongrass flavors with the coconut-y sweet-and-salty broth, and a nice slow burn from the chiles is just so good.
 
2013-05-08 08:17:53 PM  

LemSkroob: I mean, isnt it everyone's dream to move into a Vietnamese neighborhood where you can get some good authentic Pho, and drive up the rents so the Vietnamese all have to move out?


I LOL'd.  Hard XD
 
2013-05-08 08:18:23 PM  

Peki: Sybarite: Mexicans pronounce burrito (buh-REE-to).

Huh. Can you clarify this one? I'm from Los Angeles, and I've been sitting for the last five minutes trying to figure out what other way I hear it pronounced.

/CSS: Had some trouble ordering a "Baja Chicken Chalupa" from a Toxic Smell in Arkansas once. I placed my order (Baha Chicken. . ), and he goes, "Huh?? Oh, you mean with Bayjuh sauce? Okay!"


I had a similar experience trying to order something in North Carolina.  I asked for crème de menthe and the guy had no idea what I was talking about until I tried saying "cream dee mint."

/And don't get me started on "chipotle" and "voilà."
 
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