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(Seattle Weekly)   Confessions of a pho hater in Seattle. "Disowning pho is like telling a vegan how much you love KFC"   (seattleweekly.com) divider line 503
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2013-05-08 03:44:57 PM

Peki: Satan's Bunny Slippers: No one would care if you didn't bleat about it all the time like we're somehow supposed to care.No one cares.  Get a job. Fiancee doesn't go to school full time, gets a job.  Whatever.yes, yes, I'm sure you have all the reasons in the world why you can't manage that.just stop telling us how poor you are.  We don't care.

Then ignore me. Fark does give you that ability.

And I repeat it because I don't assume the same people are on the same threads all the time (unlike you I actually don't care who posts what, and take each post as if it were a completely new person unless there's a trail to follow--few exceptions to this are Tats, randomsja, SkinnyHead, Pocket Ninja, etc.), and the same stupid crap keeps getting repeated that proves people have no idea wtf is actually going on in the world around them.


I don't ignore anyone.  And if you don't care who posts what, then why are you replying to me?  Obviously, you do care. And you're looking for attention, so you got some. You also keep repeating the same stupid crap if even I have noticed.  I barely notice anyone, just the real irritants.

Have a nice day.
 
2013-05-08 03:45:22 PM
Also - Kimchi Jjigae:

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Love it!
 
2013-05-08 03:45:32 PM
fta
"I really love food. I've been known to get giggly or even teary-eyed when I eat something really good. I can name you plates I've had that have changed how I look at the world. "

Sounds Fat.
 
2013-05-08 03:46:15 PM

Rik01: Some of the best oriental soups I've had probably took the chef 30 minutes to make 10 gallons.


Gramps, is that you? You've forgotten to take your meds again, haven't you?
 
2013-05-08 03:46:20 PM

Mr. Cat Poop: Hell, I never even heard of the stuff. I was thinking it was that Asian kid who makes the dance videos, but then I wondered why Seattle would be upset if you didn't like him.


This.

I've had pho.  It's just vietnamese soup.  Didn't cross my mind that it would be a hated item.

/Thought there were lots in SC because of the dense Vietnamese population
//guess we're not special.
 
2013-05-08 03:46:20 PM

spentmiles: Licking your own asshole isn't normal.  But on pho it is.


So pho aids in increasing back flexibility? It's like some sort of wonderfood, isn't it?
 
2013-05-08 03:47:19 PM

Gonz: I had pho for lunch today- yes, with added Sriracha- so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

//From Trader Joe's, too.


Wow, if it wasn't for the likelihood of getting mugged in TJ's parking lot, I'd pick me up some.
 
2013-05-08 03:48:17 PM

i upped my meds-up yours: Cilantro is a test of the true foodie. You may have excellent taste, but if the C-receptor gene has passed you by, you can never be one of the elect.


I grow my own cilantro. And, since we don't use pesticides on our vegetable garden, you know what that means?


Homegrown organic cilantro, that's what.

 
2013-05-08 03:48:40 PM
I never found a Pho I liked.

Saimin... that I could eat for days.
 
2013-05-08 03:48:48 PM
Whole lotta assholes up in this thread.

/By assholes, I mean the people who decided to leap all over what someone said in a differentthread, drag it in here, and derail the conversation.
 
2013-05-08 03:48:55 PM
t0.gstatic.com
 
2013-05-08 03:49:08 PM

ckevinc: fta
"I really love food. I've been known to get giggly or even teary-eyed when I eat something really good. I can name you plates I've had that have changed how I look at the world. "

Sounds Fat.


or, she's eaten bone marrow before.  makes every terrestrial, ambulatory beast look like sweet love... must... eat... bones...  inside walls... meat butter...

what were we talking about, i zoned out for a little while
 
2013-05-08 03:49:13 PM

Levarien: Best part of Pho is getting mixing bowl worth of the stuff for $5.

Also it allows for the delightful restaurant sign, "Pho King"


My first Vietnamese restuarant was in Vegas, with the family of my vietnamese partner. His mom pointed the sign out to me and laughed heartily.
Pho Kim Long.
 
2013-05-08 03:49:50 PM
Obligatory pho porn:  http://youtu.be/PsSiA-JHm0U

I've had outstanding pho and underwhelming pho, but never bad pho. I love when the broth has stronger cardamom, clove, and star anise flavors to it, and usually get tendon, tripe, and rare flank.
 
2013-05-08 03:50:33 PM
It's farking soup
Definitely top ten overrated food items.
 
2013-05-08 03:51:11 PM

icam: Obligatory pho porn:  http://youtu.be/PsSiA-JHm0U

I've had outstanding pho and underwhelming pho, but never bad pho. I love when the broth has stronger cardamom, clove, and star anise flavors to it, and usually get tendon, tripe, and rare flank.


my favorite was the ox tail.

if no ox tail, then it's rare meat for me.
 
2013-05-08 03:51:41 PM

ReverendJynxed: I never found a Pho I liked.

Saimin... that I could eat for days.


Oh man.  Love that stuff too.  It's definitely one of those "third country foods" that's pretty impossible for me to find, though.
 
2013-05-08 03:51:46 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Peki: Satan's Bunny Slippers: No one would care if you didn't bleat about it all the time like we're somehow supposed to care.No one cares.  Get a job. Fiancee doesn't go to school full time, gets a job.  Whatever.yes, yes, I'm sure you have all the reasons in the world why you can't manage that.just stop telling us how poor you are.  We don't care.

Then ignore me. Fark does give you that ability.

And I repeat it because I don't assume the same people are on the same threads all the time (unlike you I actually don't care who posts what, and take each post as if it were a completely new person unless there's a trail to follow--few exceptions to this are Tats, randomsja, SkinnyHead, Pocket Ninja, etc.), and the same stupid crap keeps getting repeated that proves people have no idea wtf is actually going on in the world around them.

I don't ignore anyone.  And if you don't care who posts what, then why are you replying to me?  Obviously, you do care. And you're looking for attention, so you got some. You also keep repeating the same stupid crap if even I have noticed.  I barely notice anyone, just the real irritants.

Have a nice day.


You obviously stopped reading after "who posts what" because I clarified at the end "unless there's a trail to follow." You were addressing me, I'm responding. And if you're worried about me being an AW, then why are you giving me attention? Shut up already.
 
2013-05-08 03:52:22 PM

Gonz: i upped my meds-up yours: Cilantro is a test of the true foodie. You may have excellent taste, but if the C-receptor gene has passed you by, you can never be one of the elect.

I grow my own cilantro. And, since we don't use pesticides on our vegetable garden, you know what that means?
Homegrown organic cilantro, that's what.


It means it still tastes like soap. Organic, pesticide free soap.
 
2013-05-08 03:52:24 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I feel the same way about sushi. I'm considered a philistine because I farking HATE fishia


this.  I even tried vegetarian sushi, and to me it still tastes like shiat.  I just order something cooked if i ever find myself in a Japanese restaurant, no big deal, until my Judgy McJudgerson companions give me the evil eye because I won't share their 30 piece plate of raw whatever on a pat of rice.  *gag*

Can't say I ever had pho, but I am not a huge cilantro fan.  I don't mind it in moderation, but too much cilantro smells like a squished stinkbug to me.
 
2013-05-08 03:52:40 PM

stevenboof: fsbilly: If someone ever says, "I really wanted to like it... I really did." to me, they are getting their goddamned throat ripped right farking out.

This is BS.  I really want to like onions and peppers since they are a big part of a lot of my favorite dishes, but I just don't like them.  I try them every couple of months, hoping that my tastes will change, but sadly they never do.  I just keep ordering my favorite dishes and picking them out of it.


Force-choking you as we speak.

I'm not talking about a dish. I mean when a Yelper opens a review with that. There are two clichés that just make me want to kick puppies... the I really wanted.... and  I love food shiat... there are others, but these are the biggest navel-gazing horse shiat openers...

As for onions and peppers... that's a bummer... all i can say is keep eating them as often as you can. I used to detest both of them. I think stuffed peppers might help your "problem"
 
2013-05-08 03:53:05 PM

doubled99: It's farking soup
Definitely top ten overrated food items.


definitely top ten meals for about $5, though...

/ along side red beans and rice, gumbo, and...can't think of much else at that price in america that's both excellent and a full meal.
// except breakfast, i should take that back.
 
2013-05-08 03:53:30 PM

MBooda: Gonz: I had pho for lunch today- yes, with added Sriracha- so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

//From Trader Joe's, too.

Wow, if it wasn't for the likelihood of getting mugged in TJ's parking lot, I'd pick me up some.



Where is this? In these parts, you mostly run the risk of being sideswiped by somone's handlebar moustache in a TJ parking lot.
 
2013-05-08 03:54:47 PM

Via Infinito: hubiestubert: So get something you do like. It's food, it's not rocket science.

I grew up in the South, and I despise okra. It's like eating a slimy eyebrow, but if folks like it, more power to them. If you are so worried about what people think about your food likes and dislikes, maybe you shouldn't eat in public. Or maybe get over your damn selves.

OMG I laughed SO HARD. You're right. I'm from AL and have always hated boiled okra too.


Boiled okra, tomatoes, and rice is to die for! Seriously! You should try it again some time.

/snark
//but I do love me some okra, tomatoes, and rice.
 
2013-05-08 03:54:53 PM

itazurakko: ReverendJynxed: I never found a Pho I liked.

Saimin... that I could eat for days.

Oh man.  Love that stuff too.  It's definitely one of those "third country foods" that's pretty impossible for me to find, though.


I'm glad we got things like Uwajimaya but we actually have a Saimin place in Kent... Saimin Says. Great people, lots of good food, good pricing. They also stock Hawaiian Sun drinks.
 
2013-05-08 03:55:21 PM
It's funny that so many people get stuck on the author's dislike of pho and ignore the point where the reason for the dislike is more related to the crazy-ass pho cult that insists she's just ignorant when stating she doesn't like pho.

I get that, for some reason, pho is to hipster foodies as the iphone is to apple fanboys.  Both may be decent, but the cult surrounding them makes them much less appealing.
 
2013-05-08 03:55:54 PM

mithras_angel: hubiestubert: I grew up in the South, and I despise okra. It's like eating a slimy eyebrow, but if folks like it, more power to them.

Preach on!

That crap is awful.  And I spent enough time near Irmo, SC to have their yearly okra festival forced on me.

No, I didn't go; I wasn't within 10 miles of it, but they boiled so much of the crap that, even that far away, you could smell it.


This. It's fit only to be included in gumbo, and then it gets so boiled down it might as well be celery.
 
2013-05-08 03:56:07 PM

doubled99: It's farking soup
Definitely top ten overrated food items.


When people are discussing chili, do you say "it's just farking stew"?
 
2013-05-08 03:56:25 PM

ELKAY: I always thought NOLA had tons of pho because of the large Vietnamese population, especially on the west bank and in the east.

Now I'm finding out it's all over the country. Is this a new fad?

By the way I love pho but not as much as a Vietnamese po boy (banh mi)


New Orleans has Ya Ka Mein.
 
2013-05-08 03:56:40 PM

fsbilly: Force-choking you as we speak.

I'm not talking about a dish. I mean when a Yelper opens a review with that. There are two clichés that just make me want to kick puppies... the I really wanted.... and I love food shiat... there are others, but these are the biggest navel-gazing horse shiat openers...

As for onions and peppers... that's a bummer... all i can say is keep eating them as often as you can. I used to detest both of them. I think stuffed peppers might help your "problem"


My bad, I really don't read yelp, so I don't know how their reviews are.  I have found that if I sweat onions, I can eat them in a dish pretty easily.  I'm hoping that soon, I'll be able to do the same with green peppers.
 
2013-05-08 03:57:17 PM
I wouldn't have thought there'd be so much about pho to discuss. Maybe an expert, call him Pho Ken, could do a Q&A column about it. You'd send in your Pho Qs, and you'd get back a Pho Ken A.
 
2013-05-08 03:57:18 PM

FrancoFile: It's not real pho unless it's made by someone who had to escape from South Vietnam after the fall of Saigon.

One of the great things about living in Northern VA in the 90s was great pho in every neighborhood.


Something to this.  My wife is from Laos (close enough! sshh....I didn't say that) and makes awesome Pho.  There are local Pho places that are packed...with "Americans"...that she says aren't any good, the pho places, not the Amereicans.  I have been to busy Thai places that were packed....with "Americans"....that weren't particularly good, yet the place is packed.  Maybe someone who thinks Pho is no good needs to find a place that is packed with southeast Asians just to be sure they are getting the good stuff.  But if you don't like the ingredients, it isn't going to matter.  Another suggestion is to try combination seafood Pho if all you previously had was beef, or visa versa.  Then again, sometimes people just want a hamburger....
 
2013-05-08 03:58:40 PM

Rik01: Don't forget now, the 'new yuppies' consider it a wonderful ritual to cook up the placenta of their new born child and dine on it with fine wines and close friends. After all, it's natural since animals do it.


Wait, they serve it to others?  I thought women consumed it themselves to regain the lost nutrients from the large organ they developed and then expelled.  That's already on my list of "I understand but... uhhh." Serving it to others, though?  NO.

Maud Dib: "She", and she looks like she enjoys Big Macs.


Damn, I told myself I should have checked but didn't.

Deucednuisance: Third bite was worse, a bigger, damper hunk of fat that oozed gelid pus-like fluid. I gagged. I pulled it out of my mouth, tore the sandwich open, and every slice of pork in it was the same: post-it note-sized slabs of thick fat with a strand or two of meat only about as wide as a #2 pencil, the red jambon was only marginally better. I tossed it in the trash.


Yeah: f*ck that noise.  Quality control is everyone's business!
 
2013-05-08 04:00:06 PM

EViLTeW: Both may be decent, but the cult surrounding them makes them much less appealing.


I feel the same way about the UofM Wolverines and Detroit Red Wings.  Now that the Tigers are taking over, the Wings fans are switching over to them and leaving the Wings, which is cool.
 
2013-05-08 04:00:06 PM
He could have just saved a lot of time and trouble by simply writing, "I don't like Pho."  I didn't like Pho the first time I tried it.  That was from a supposedly great place in San Francisco.  However, in more recent years, I found a fantastic place nearer my home and absolutely love the stuff.
 
2013-05-08 04:00:15 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I feel the same way about sushi. I'm considered a philistine because I farking HATE fish!


I can barely tolerate fish in general but like sushi.

Go figure.
 
2013-05-08 04:00:36 PM
Business idea: Mr. T themed restaurant called "I Pity The Pho"
 
2013-05-08 04:00:55 PM
Eh, pho is okay. I did hate it for the longest time though. I was trying Vietnamese food the first time, and I was having a craving for red meat. So I'm looking over the menu and I see something that was translated to 'supreme beef pho'. My thought was 'oh, that must mean it has a lot of beef in it!' and ordered it to go.

I knew I'd done something wrong when I got home and opened my soup, and it was looking back at me.

supreme beef meant 'the WHOLE COW' apparently...
 
2013-05-08 04:00:58 PM
I'm in Hawaii. It's 2 hours until lunch. We have a really good pho place right around the corner. I know what I'm having for lunch today. (the bun, pronounced 'boon', is really good too)
 
2013-05-08 04:01:20 PM

factoryconnection: Wait, they serve it to others?  I thought women consumed it themselves to regain the lost nutrients from the large organ they developed and then expelled.  That's already on my list of "I understand but... uhhh." Serving it to others, though?  NO.


Ooh yeah, I'd draw a line there too. Family has a history of PPD/PPP, so we're considering the placenta route. But I'd never offer it to someone else unless they were curious.

factoryconnection: Deucednuisance: Third bite was worse, a bigger, damper hunk of fat that oozed gelid pus-like fluid. I gagged. I pulled it out of my mouth, tore the sandwich open, and every slice of pork in it was the same: post-it note-sized slabs of thick fat with a strand or two of meat only about as wide as a #2 pencil, the red jambon was only marginally better. I tossed it in the trash.Yeah: f*ck that noise.  Quality control is everyone's business!


This!
 
2013-05-08 04:01:53 PM
Pho is my 2nd favorite soup behind Tom Kha.  I like both with tofu rather than meat since the meat never ends up tasting all that good.
 
2013-05-08 04:02:58 PM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: Love pho.

Only recently found out from a Vietnamese friend that I've been mispronouncing it for 20 years.

The cedilla over the "o" and the little tail on the "o" makes it a very soft sound.  I still don't think I'm getting it properly, but as close as my Caucasian mouth can get it's not "fo" (rhyming with "go") but rather more like "fhaa"


cut the ck off of the f-word and you've got it nailed.
 
2013-05-08 04:03:12 PM

Calmamity: I can see being ambivalent about pho, but getting yourself so worked up that you have to write an opinion column about how much you hate pho? That kind of just makes you a contrarian twat.


You missed the point; The article is not about how much he hates Pho, its about how much he hates the people who have built a religion around it and simply won't shut up about it.
 
2013-05-08 04:03:24 PM
There was  a Vietnamese place near where I worked that made a delicious pho.

It is the broth, with all the spices, that makes it heavenly.   I would spend a lot of time admiring the aroma.   Since they closed, I have had to try some other places.   None of them have the aroma of the old one.  They just don't taste as good.

I did find one place in downtown Boise that came close though.   But as a rule, I am not going to travel 70 miles to eat soup.
 
2013-05-08 04:05:06 PM

PawisBetlog: Bill_Wick's_Friend: Love pho.

Only recently found out from a Vietnamese friend that I've been mispronouncing it for 20 years.

The cedilla over the "o" and the little tail on the "o" makes it a very soft sound.  I still don't think I'm getting it properly, but as close as my Caucasian mouth can get it's not "fo" (rhyming with "go") but rather more like "fhaa"

cut the ck off of the f-word and you've got it nailed.


t1.gstatic.com
 
2013-05-08 04:05:39 PM
Had Bún thịt nướng from my friend's family restaurant for lunch today.  It's better than Pho, unless I am sick or hung over.  Then Pho > Bún thịt nướng.
 
2013-05-08 04:06:33 PM
Weird. 200 replies and no recipes or links.

WTF is wrong with you people?
 
2013-05-08 04:06:43 PM
Lucky  best pho place in Atlanta!  They really do have the best Goi Cuon around, for realz.

o2.aolcdn.com
 
2013-05-08 04:07:24 PM
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2013-05-08 04:08:05 PM

GleeUnit: I actually have had a different experience.  Yeah, pho is really popular and ubiquitous in Seattle, so you're going to have it eventually whether you want to try it or not.  My first couple times I didn't exactly dislike it, but I didn't see what all of the fuss is about.  Once you get the hang of how much of the sauces and whatnot you add though... It's actually really good.  Maybe it's an acquired taste thing.

Maybe I'm just desperately trying to fit in with a foodie culture I don't fully understand by forcing myself to like what everyone else seems to like, without realizing that nobody actually likes pho and everybody in this city is just trying to impress each other with their foodie-ness.

/Nah, pho is actually really good.  Might get it for lunch actually.



Hipsters pretending to be Vietnamese?  It's more likely than you think.
 
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