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(Kotaku)   China's CCTV airs Jon Stewart clip trying to insult the USA, has it backfire spectacularly: "At least they are free [in the US] to criticize their president openly on television,"   (kotaku.com) divider line 60
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2013-05-08 11:59:10 AM
How soon until that same clip is censored in China?
 
2013-05-08 11:59:42 AM
/make career out of it
/profit
 
2013-05-08 12:00:17 PM
China has a closed caption television propaganda outlet?
 
2013-05-08 12:03:06 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: China has a closed caption television propaganda outlet?


Big Brother is Watching You.

//not really
//well, sorta
 
2013-05-08 12:05:27 PM
Don't you remember the old joke for the cold war days?

An American and a Russian are stuck together on an airplane and start comparing their respective countries.

The American says "We have freedom in America.  I can go to Washington, walk into the White House, and go right up to the President's desk - hell, I can pound my fist on the desk and say 'Mr. President, I don't like the way you're running the United States!'"

The Russian says, "But I can do the same thing.  I can go to Moscow, walk into the Kremlin, and go right up to the Party Chairman's desk - and I can pound my fist on the desk and say 'Mr. Chairman, I don't like the way the President is running the United States!"
 
2013-05-08 12:07:27 PM
Is this like how showing Dallas in eastern Europe impressed the proles rather than horrifying them about western decadency?
 
2013-05-08 12:16:45 PM
As one Chinese micro-blogger asked earlier this spring, "When will China have its own Jon Stewart?" Probably when state-run TV realizes it should serve the viewers' interests instead of the Communist Party's.

This is actually a pretty brave stance to take, in China
 
2013-05-08 12:22:20 PM
Having lived there for several years, I found dry wit and irony did not communicate well in the broadcast media.
 
2013-05-08 12:26:27 PM

Fano: Is this like how showing Dallas in eastern Europe impressed the proles rather than horrifying them about western decadency?


Yeah. Same thing.

Also see: Blue jeans, The Beatles, McDonald's, Hollywood in general.

Sometimes what one group finds repellent is actually attractive to the masses. Go figure.
 
2013-05-08 12:28:02 PM
The Chinese should stick with the things they're good with like fast food, and leave the TV to Hollywood.
 
2013-05-08 12:31:54 PM

Crewmannumber6: As one Chinese micro-blogger asked earlier this spring, "When will China have its own Jon Stewart?" Probably when state-run TV realizes it should serve the viewers' interests instead of the Communist Party's.

This is actually a pretty brave stance to take, in China


The answer to that question was given by a blogger, which is a pretty candy-ass remark when the person isn't living in China. It isn't just a matter of the state run TV "deciding" whose interests will be served. It's a matter of the Communist Party enforcing their will with troops carrying rifles. If the state run TV turns on the Party you will see the People's Liberation Army going in to set things back to where the Party wants them. The people arrested, if even taken alive, will be executed.

Some people (and apparently the author of TFA) has forgotten how things work in totalitarian countries.
 
2013-05-08 12:34:52 PM

SpdrJay: The Chinese should stick with the things they're good with like fast food, and leave the TV to Hollywood.


They're not really good at fast food either. Chinese food in America isn't really Chinese and fast food in China is all American.
 
2013-05-08 12:36:21 PM
China's CCTV airs John Stewart clip ...

Jon. Just like it's spelled in the article.
 
2013-05-08 12:38:36 PM
Jon Stewart is turning out to be one of the most powerful media figures in the world.

How horrifying is that?
 
2013-05-08 12:40:15 PM

Ambivalence: Jon Stewart is turning out to be one of the most powerful media figures in the world.

How horrifying is that?


i686.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-08 12:40:18 PM

FrancoFile: Don't you remember the old joke for the cold war days?


A Soviet, a Chinese national and an Israeli are walking down the street, when they are approached by a beggar. He asks each of them in turn "Excuse me, can I have some money to buy bread?"

The Soviet says: "What is 'money'?"
The Chinese national says: "What is 'bread'?"
The Israeli says: "What is 'Excuse me'?"
 
2013-05-08 12:49:57 PM
This is, I swear, the new HQ building of the Chinese State -run media:
www.straitstimes.com

and any time anyone in China notes its uncanny resemblance to a cetain male anatomical feature on thier equivalent of Twitter or Facebook, the state media censor immediately delete the post.  So yeah, If they can;t even handle dick jokes about thier buildings.  I'm thinking they still have a long way to go
 
2013-05-08 12:52:35 PM
I learned two things from that article:
1) apparently everybody in China is a micro-blogger
2) Kotaku is still around

/huh
 
2013-05-08 12:54:24 PM

Magorn: This is, I swear, the new HQ building of the Chinese State -run media:
[www.straitstimes.com image 589x387]

and any time anyone in China notes its uncanny resemblance to a cetain male anatomical feature on thier equivalent of Twitter or Facebook, the state media censor immediately delete the post.  So yeah, If they can;t even handle dick jokes about thier buildings.  I'm thinking they still have a long way to go


Enoki kidding?
 
2013-05-08 12:57:03 PM
 I have a feeling that somewhere in the approval process for that bit, they used a poorly translated
transcript..
 
2013-05-08 01:11:06 PM

Crewmannumber6: As one Chinese micro-blogger asked earlier this spring, "When will China have its own Jon Stewart?" Probably when state-run TV realizes it should serve the viewers' interests instead of the Communist Party's.

This is actually a pretty brave stance to take, in China


And so it begins. The walls will be coming down.   The party never should have allowed capitalism and the Internet.

I figured that everyone who was in Tienmien Square - and lived - knew the real truth and it would eventually come out.
 
2013-05-08 01:11:28 PM

Magorn: This is, I swear, the new HQ building of the Chinese State -run media:
[www.straitstimes.com image 589x387]


If that picture had been take like one microsecond later the two bicycle wheels would've lined up *just* right....
 
2013-05-08 01:13:39 PM

netringer


I figured that everyone who was in Tienmien Square


*facepalm*

That's Tiananmen Square.
 
2013-05-08 01:16:07 PM

netringer: I figured that everyone who was in Tienmien Square - and lived - knew the real truth and it would eventually come out.


Fun fact: when setting up the 2008 Olympics, China tried to have the beach volleyball competition at Tienanmen Square.

Then the IOC informed them of just how much that was never going to happen.

Beach volleyball took place at Chaoyang Park.
 
2013-05-08 01:19:44 PM
Well, considering the media over there keep picking up The Onion News as real news, this is no surprise that they didn't realize the irony.
 
2013-05-08 01:20:57 PM

Fano: Is this like how showing Dallas in eastern Europe impressed the proles rather than horrifying them about western decadency?


That, and Michael Jackson.

Except Michael Jackson ended up horrifying them later on anyway, but they were free by then.
 
2013-05-08 01:23:16 PM
Hey....why does this Coke taste funny?
 
2013-05-08 01:24:39 PM
Oddly enough, I actually get the English language version of this on my cable package (it's located in an odd place, after all the pay movie channels-channle 562).  I've always thought there should be a "state propganda" section, with CCTV, BBC, PBS, RTV (Russia), Al Jazeera (Qatar), etc., all grouped in one area with the channels all next to each other.

Oh, and CCTV is amazingly boring.  Imagine a 1987 PBS station, then remove anything contraversal or interesting.
 
2013-05-08 01:28:49 PM
isnt that site about video games?
 
2013-05-08 01:33:47 PM
FTA:  "This is our country's mainstream media... They just want to divert our attention to problems [of other countries] away from poisonous ginger, taint  ed milk, gutter oil and undrinkable tap water," quipped another.
 
2013-05-08 01:35:16 PM
I'm going to pitch a show to CCTV called 半小时喜剧小时 .
 
2013-05-08 01:36:33 PM

DeltaPunch: I learned two things from that article:
1) apparently everybody in China is a micro-blogger


Obviously: the average height in China is a good 3.5" shorter than in the US.
 
2013-05-08 01:41:06 PM

tbriggs: Having lived there for several years, I found dry wit and irony did not communicate well in the broadcast media.


I read something a while back (from here maybe?) about a Chinese born comic who grew up in the United States.  The article was about a bunch of Chinese trying to figure out why we thought the guy was funny after he did a stand up show in China.   One of the jokes they didn't get was him opening with something along the lines of "hello everyone, I'm Irish" which of course is funny because he obviously isn't.  The irony seemed completely lost on all the Chinese talking about the guy.
 
2013-05-08 01:44:53 PM

Jake Havechek: Hey....why does this Coke taste funny?


This guy been around?

content8.flixster.com
 
2013-05-08 01:48:15 PM

phlegmmo: China's CCTV airs John Stewart clip ...

Jon. Just like it's spelled in the article.


It's persistence made me wonder if it was a farkism, like vodak or moran, that I'd missed up till now.
 
2013-05-08 01:50:55 PM

Crewmannumber6: As one Chinese micro-blogger asked earlier this spring, "When will China have its own Jon Stewart?" Probably when state-run TV realizes it should serve the viewers' interests instead of the Communist Party's.

This is actually a pretty brave stance to take, in China


That guy is now touring the United States. He's the flayed corpse holding the tennis racket in the "show" at your local Science Museum.

/seriously, the origin and provenance of some of those "donated" corpses can't be verified. some people believe they're the remains of eviscerated (read organ donor) Chinese political prisoners
 
2013-05-08 02:04:35 PM

Arkanaut: How soon until that same clip is censored in China?


"You can't stop the signal, Mal."
 
2013-05-08 02:23:59 PM

Geotpf: Oddly enough, I actually get the English language version of this on my cable package (it's located in an odd place, after all the pay movie channels-channle 562).  I've always thought there should be a "state propganda" section, with CCTV, BBC, PBS, RTV (Russia), Al Jazeera (Qatar), etc., all grouped in one area with the channels all next to each other.

Oh, and CCTV is amazingly boring.  Imagine a 1987 PBS station, then remove anything contraversal or interesting.


Never-ending reruns of "Anne of green gables"?
 
2013-05-08 02:24:26 PM
Is it some sort of meta joke that China's state TV shares an acronym with closed circuit television?
 
2013-05-08 02:33:21 PM
i40.tinypic.com

/stolen from a fark thread long ago
 
2013-05-08 03:05:08 PM

Fano: Is this like how showing Dallas in eastern Europe impressed the proles rather than horrifying them about western decadency?


Supposedly, one of the people who escape from North Korea to South Korea did it because he learned that almost everyone could afford a car, so they must be very prosperous.  How did he learn this?  The government news attempted to show how bad it was for South Koreans by reporting on the severe traffic jams they had to endure every day.
 
2013-05-08 03:09:59 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: That guy is now touring the United States. He's the flayed corpse holding the tennis racket in the "show" at your local Science Museum.

/seriously, the origin and provenance of some of those "donated" corpses can't be verified. some people believe they're the remains of eviscerated (read organ donor) Chinese political prisoners


I keep waiting for them to do some sort of kangaroo pose for the irony..
 
2013-05-08 03:49:13 PM

OgreMagi: Fano: Is this like how showing Dallas in eastern Europe impressed the proles rather than horrifying them about western decadency?

Supposedly, one of the people who escape from North Korea to South Korea did it because he learned that almost everyone could afford a car, so they must be very prosperous.  How did he learn this?  The government news attempted to show how bad it was for South Koreans by reporting on the severe traffic jams they had to endure every day.


Supposedly, there was a similar reaction to the film of "The Grapes of Wrath" when it was shown in the Soviet Union. The Communist Party intended to use it as an illustration of the corruption of the capitalist system. The masses who saw it said, "America is so amazing - even the poor people have their own cars!"
 
2013-05-08 04:26:13 PM

moothemagiccow: isnt that site about video games?


*this
 
2013-05-08 04:26:28 PM

puckrock2000: OgreMagi: Fano: Is this like how showing Dallas in eastern Europe impressed the proles rather than horrifying them about western decadency?

Supposedly, one of the people who escape from North Korea to South Korea did it because he learned that almost everyone could afford a car, so they must be very prosperous.  How did he learn this?  The government news attempted to show how bad it was for South Koreans by reporting on the severe traffic jams they had to endure every day.

Supposedly, there was a similar reaction to the film of "The Grapes of Wrath" when it was shown in the Soviet Union. The Communist Party intended to use it as an illustration of the corruption of the capitalist system. The masses who saw it said, "America is so amazing - even the poor people have their own cars!"


I've heard something similar about old Soviet propaganda saying that the elderly in the US were reduced to eating dog food.  People heard that and thought, "Wait, they have food . . . just for dogs?  How decadent!"

Wish I could remember where I heard that.

/So many CSBs
 
2013-05-08 04:30:34 PM
I heard a story (apocryphal) about the Soviet defector Viktor Belenko who flew a MIG to Japan, that the Party publicized US media reports critical of the US government about one of the Vietnam atrocities, and the guy cottoned on to the reality that the US media is free to criticize the government.

Grain of salt, etc.
 
2013-05-08 05:25:04 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: netringer

I figured that everyone who was in Tienmien Square

 
*facepalm*

That's Tiananmen Square.


*facetweak*
1) I didn't feel like looking it up. I should have added the (sp?)
2) I'm pretty sure the real name is in Chinese characters, so spelling the homonym properly in English prolly ain't so important
 
2013-05-08 05:45:41 PM

Geotpf: Oddly enough, I actually get the English language version of this on my cable package (it's located in an odd place, after all the pay movie channels-channle 562).  I've always thought there should be a "state propganda" section, with CCTV, BBC, PBS, RTV (Russia), Al Jazeera (Qatar), etc., all grouped in one area with the channels all next to each other.

Oh, and CCTV is amazingly boring.  Imagine a 1987 PBS station, then remove anything contraversal or interesting.


you forgot to add CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, et all, to that list.
 
2013-05-08 05:53:18 PM

Cerebral Knievel: Geotpf: Oddly enough, I actually get the English language version of this on my cable package (it's located in an odd place, after all the pay movie channels-channle 562).  I've always thought there should be a "state propganda" section, with CCTV, BBC, PBS, RTV (Russia), Al Jazeera (Qatar), etc., all grouped in one area with the channels all next to each other.

Oh, and CCTV is amazingly boring.  Imagine a 1987 PBS station, then remove anything contraversal or interesting.

you forgot to add CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, et all, to that list.


None of those are directly owned by a government, unlike the other channels I listed.
 
2013-05-08 06:32:41 PM

Geotpf: Cerebral Knievel: Geotpf: Oddly enough, I actually get the English language version of this on my cable package (it's located in an odd place, after all the pay movie channels-channle 562).  I've always thought there should be a "state propganda" section, with CCTV, BBC, PBS, RTV (Russia), Al Jazeera (Qatar), etc., all grouped in one area with the channels all next to each other.

Oh, and CCTV is amazingly boring.  Imagine a 1987 PBS station, then remove anything contraversal or interesting.

you forgot to add CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, et all, to that list.

None of those are directly owned by a government, unlike the other channels I listed.


I wouldn't call PBS or the BBC state propaganda.  They're public broadcasters that operate at an arms length from their governments.  There's an interesting debate going on Canada where the Conservative government is trying to insert themselves into CBC affairs, and people there are calling this an attempt to transform the CBC from a public broadcaster to a state broadcaster.  

As for CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, I definitely don't think they are "state propaganda".   They seem much more beholden to the idea of political party than to the state.
 
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