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(USA Today)   Dear Cleveland police. 911 calls from neighbors about naked women being lead around on dog leashes MIGHT just be nothing more than a really swinging S&M party, but you still maybe oughta send a car by to check it out   (usatoday.com) divider line 160
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2013-05-08 10:45:17 AM  
hindsight
 
2013-05-08 10:47:07 AM  

colinspooky: hindsight


Exactly.  Leading a woman around on a leash, while it might not be your thing, is not illegal.
 
2013-05-08 10:48:23 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: colinspooky: hindsight

Exactly.  Leading a woman around on a leash, while it might not be your thing, is not illegal.


No, but it is worth looking into.  I recall an incident some years back where police busted what they thought was a rape in progress, but when all of the parties were questioned, it turned out to be a staged rape that the woman wanted, a fantasy of hers or something.  No one was charged, but some things are worth looking into.
 
2013-05-08 11:01:58 AM  

nekom: Benevolent Misanthrope: colinspooky: hindsight

Exactly.  Leading a woman around on a leash, while it might not be your thing, is not illegal.

No, but it is worth looking into.  I recall an incident some years back where police busted what they thought was a rape in progress, but when all of the parties were questioned, it turned out to be a staged rape that the woman wanted, a fantasy of hers or something.  No one was charged, but some things are worth looking into.


Trust me, man, if the cops were called to "look into" every sex practice someone doesn't like, that would be a Very Bad Thing.  For example - in Georgia, thanks to the Hardwick case, blow jobs were illegal until 2003 (Lawrence v Texas).  If your neighbor was a batshiat fundie who though blow jobs were a form of coercion, caught a glimpse through your drapes, and called the cops on you every goddamn time you got a blow job, how would that make you feel about things?  And they'd be reporting a crime.

Hindsight, 20/20, that sort of thing  We know today it was bad.  2 weeks ago, we would have been vilifying the cops for going after people doing something totally legal, especially if the victim had said it was consensual.
 
2013-05-08 11:05:39 AM  
Yep, too many people enjoy thing others find unusual. If the police were called every time, doughnut stores would go broke across your whole nation, with the resulting job losses across associated businesses
 
2013-05-08 11:07:39 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: colinspooky: hindsight

Exactly.  Leading a woman around on a leash, while it might not be your thing, is not illegal.


however leading a NAKED one around on a leash outside, at the very least violates public deceny laws which is enough to check it ou
 
2013-05-08 11:56:58 AM  
After everything that I have read on the case I am very angry

Thank god we have a federal law making it illegal to kill a fetus without the mothers permission.

farker can get the needle for that.
 
2013-05-08 11:56:59 AM  
Pete and repeat.
 
2013-05-08 11:57:25 AM  
It's a repeat and a waste of money...
 
2013-05-08 11:58:31 AM  
I think that people who engage in kinky practices such as pretend rape and D+S probably understand why perhaps a cop might stop by to make sure everything is okay. In fact, I'd be happy and feel much safer and have more faith in the system if that had indeed happened. Nothing wrong with being kinky, so long as all parties involved are okay with it. If someone calls and says they see a woman (or man) chained in a basement - yeah it COULD just be kinky sex but it also could be something much worse.

Benevolent Misanthrope: Hindsight, 20/20, that sort of thing  We know today it was bad.  2 weeks ago, we would have been vilifying the cops for going after people doing something totally legal, especially if the victim had said it was consensual.


"Going after" is not the same as checking up on a neighbod's complaint to make sure that no one was doing something against their will.
 
2013-05-08 11:58:34 AM  
Dear news media (and dumbmitter): just because someone says something doesn't mean it's true. In fairness to the media, though, the Boston Marathon was a long, long, long time ago, so the lessons learned in that media debacle have understandably faded.
 
2013-05-08 11:58:45 AM  
Pics or it didn't happen.
 
2013-05-08 11:59:43 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: If your neighbor was a batshiat fundie who though blow jobs were a form of coercion, caught a glimpse through your drapes, and called the cops on you every goddamn time you got a blow job, how would that make you feel about things?


I would feel like I might need new drapes.
 
2013-05-08 12:00:20 PM  

DeathCipris: Pete and repeat.


Charlie Chingas: It's a repeat and a waste of money...


Is it acceptable to call repeat on the Followup tag?

/probably
//shut up Pfom!!, you cock
 
2013-05-08 12:01:41 PM  
led
 
2013-05-08 12:02:21 PM  
I've seen naked women/men being lead around on dog leashes in San Francisco & Berkeley if I saw it in  Cleveland I wouldn't have given it a second thought.
 
2013-05-08 12:02:49 PM  

cman: After everything that I have read on the case I am very angry

Thank god we have a federal law making it illegal to kill a fetus without the mothers permission. Constitution that allows the news media to report anything it wants without any concern over whether it's true.

 
2013-05-08 12:05:34 PM  
The past tense of lead is led, dumbmitter.
 
2013-05-08 12:05:58 PM  
aaaaaaaand lawsuit from one of the families against the police department in 3, 2, 1...
 
2013-05-08 12:07:38 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: DeathCipris: Pete and repeat.

Charlie Chingas: It's a repeat and a waste of money...

Is it acceptable to call repeat on the Followup tag?

/probably
//shut up Pfom!!, you cock


??
 
2013-05-08 12:08:02 PM  
Why is it that I always find out about these slave dungeons AFTER they've been raided?
 
2013-05-08 12:08:14 PM  

ricewater_stool: The past tense of lead is led, dumbmitter.


Thank you.  I red the headline my left eye just started twitching...
 
2013-05-08 12:08:22 PM  

Magorn: however leading a NAKED one around on a leash outside, at the very least violates public deceny laws which is enough to check it ou


Am I the only one who read "hindsight" and thought "Dat Azz"?

Aisle seat, please.  Leg room.
 
2013-05-08 12:09:48 PM  
I don't even want to imagine the beating you'd catch for accidently coming on a cop.
 
2013-05-08 12:09:54 PM  
This was in the back yard of a residential neighborhood.  Yes the police can "check into it" without trampling your dog-collar-wearing fetish rights.

Then they can mark you down as _______ and won't come out to your house every night. Do people really have sex in the backyard so often that they need not ever be disturbed?
 
2013-05-08 12:10:27 PM  
Who cares.  It's old news now.  What these men did shouldn't be a crime.  They were merely acting out their fantasies in the privacy of their own home.  They should be praised for coming out as doms.  What they did was not morally corrupt.  They should be allowed to marry their subs.  Praise the Cleveland police for not prying in the lives of private citizens and letting them carry on their business.

Kids should fear guns, not innocent kidnappers who just want to get their jollies.  What is wrong with the close-minded tea-tards?
 
2013-05-08 12:10:41 PM  
Please, Cleveland PD ignored a serial killer for years. There were abuse reports made by "crackheads" and "hookers" so they were not followed-up, and a madman was able to kill several women and keep their bodies in his home. The caveat? The complaints about rancid meat were traced to the meat factory down the street, so the health department cited them and they paid to have all new drainage systems installed. When the smells didn't stop, they kept fining the meat plant... all the while the bodies of seven women were decomposing in a house... including a few in the back yard, and because the people who tried to report it were "nobodies" the CPD didn't even inspect the house when the guy claimed it was a lover's quarrel.

Cleveland Police sucks. So glad that I escaped.
 
2013-05-08 12:13:11 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: nekom: Benevolent Misanthrope: colinspooky: hindsight

Exactly.  Leading a woman around on a leash, while it might not be your thing, is not illegal.

No, but it is worth looking into.  I recall an incident some years back where police busted what they thought was a rape in progress, but when all of the parties were questioned, it turned out to be a staged rape that the woman wanted, a fantasy of hers or something.  No one was charged, but some things are worth looking into.

Trust me, man, if the cops were called to "look into" every sex practice someone doesn't like, that would be a Very Bad Thing.  For example - in Georgia, thanks to the Hardwick case, blow jobs were illegal until 2003 (Lawrence v Texas).  If your neighbor was a batshiat fundie who though blow jobs were a form of coercion, caught a glimpse through your drapes, and called the cops on you every goddamn time you got a blow job, how would that make you feel about things?  And they'd be reporting a crime.

Hindsight, 20/20, that sort of thing  We know today it was bad.  2 weeks ago, we would have been vilifying the cops for going after people doing something totally legal, especially if the victim had said it was consensual.


You have to show consent in S&M videos.

Enquiring about consent from law enforcement and the creation of a incident report, gathering of data is what helps cases get cracked.
 
2013-05-08 12:14:51 PM  
They were just taking the dogs out to release the bowels, they didnt want to have to clean up after them in the basement.
Housebroken, what good girls...
 
2013-05-08 12:17:11 PM  

SithLord: Who cares.  It's old news now.  What these men did shouldn't be a crime.  They were merely acting out their fantasies in the privacy of their own home.  They should be praised for coming out as doms.  What they did was not morally corrupt.  They should be allowed to marry their subs.  Praise the Cleveland police for not prying in the lives of private citizens and letting them carry on their business.

Kids should fear guns, not innocent kidnappers who just want to get their jollies.  What is wrong with the close-minded tea-tards?


0/10, terrible
 
2013-05-08 12:18:22 PM  

CliChe Guevara: aaaaaaaand lawsuit from one of the families against the police department in 3, 2, 1...


Grumpycatgood.jpg
 
2013-05-08 12:18:38 PM  

The_Gallant_Gallstone: I would feel like I might need new drapes.


I wiped my dick on the old ones, so...yeah.
 
2013-05-08 12:19:07 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: nekom: Benevolent Misanthrope: colinspooky: hindsight

Exactly.  Leading a woman around on a leash, while it might not be your thing, is not illegal.

No, but it is worth looking into.  I recall an incident some years back where police busted what they thought was a rape in progress, but when all of the parties were questioned, it turned out to be a staged rape that the woman wanted, a fantasy of hers or something.  No one was charged, but some things are worth looking into.

Trust me, man, if the cops were called to "look into" every sex practice someone doesn't like, that would be a Very Bad Thing.  For example - in Georgia, thanks to the Hardwick case, blow jobs were illegal until 2003 (Lawrence v Texas).  If your neighbor was a batshiat fundie who though blow jobs were a form of coercion, caught a glimpse through your drapes, and called the cops on you every goddamn time you got a blow job, how would that make you feel about things?  And they'd be reporting a crime.

Hindsight, 20/20, that sort of thing  We know today it was bad.  2 weeks ago, we would have been vilifying the cops for going after people doing something totally legal, especially if the victim had said it was consensual.


We aren't talking about people having sex inside their home. We are talking about naked women on leashes IN THE YARD. Even if it's consentual isn't it illegal to run around naked in your yard where neighbors can see you? I would think so.
 
2013-05-08 12:21:02 PM  

SithLord: Who cares.  It's old news now.  What these men did shouldn't be a crime.  They were merely acting out their fantasies in the privacy of their own home.  They should be praised for coming out as doms.  What they did was not morally corrupt.  They should be allowed to marry their subs.  Praise the Cleveland police for not prying in the lives of private citizens and letting them carry on their business.

Kids should fear guns, not innocent kidnappers who just want to get their jollies.  What is wrong with the close-minded tea-tards?


hey look another "Conservative" who fails to understand the phrase "between CONSENTING adults"   HMM, maybe THAT's why Republicans are always going on about rape, because they just can;t wrap thier head around the concept?
 
2013-05-08 12:21:28 PM  
At least the police are doing the next best thing, denying they were called.
 
2013-05-08 12:22:21 PM  

colinspooky: Yep, too many people enjoy thing others find unusual. If the police were called every time, doughnut stores would go broke across your whole nation, with the resulting job losses across associated businesses


Exactly. Like another poster said, a very small minority women enjoy simulated rape, so the police should stop responding to reported rapes because it is probably just one of them. A small number of other people enjoy playing "fight club" so they should also stop responding to reported assaults as well. Contacting the parties involved to ensure that they are all consenting would take waaaay too much work, so it is best to assume that they are in the minority who do consent to such things.
 
2013-05-08 12:22:37 PM  
How do you walk that line between "we're just having a good time" and "I'm a really bad person. No, really."
When someone horrible does something perverse and non-consensual, you would hope that the police would be able to know and stop it.
Or is it like the Internets, where the presence of so many trolls and weirdos make it unpossible to really know when someone's really messed up?...

Remember Dugard's kidnapping? Police missed that one too. Very very sad.
 
2013-05-08 12:22:39 PM  

Magorn: Benevolent Misanthrope: colinspooky: hindsight

Exactly.  Leading a woman around on a leash, while it might not be your thing, is not illegal.

however leading a NAKED one around on a leash outside, at the very least violates public deceny laws which is enough to check it ou


Depends where they are being lead around naked.  If someone is busy looking out of their window in to your back garden... that's quite different to walking down the street like that.
 
2013-05-08 12:23:49 PM  

Magorn: SithLord: Who cares.  It's old news now.  What these men did shouldn't be a crime.  They were merely acting out their fantasies in the privacy of their own home.  They should be praised for coming out as doms.  What they did was not morally corrupt.  They should be allowed to marry their subs.  Praise the Cleveland police for not prying in the lives of private citizens and letting them carry on their business.

Kids should fear guns, not innocent kidnappers who just want to get their jollies.  What is wrong with the close-minded tea-tards?

hey look another "Conservative" who fails to understand the phrase "between CONSENTING adults"   HMM, maybe THAT's why Republicans are always going on about rape, because they just can;t wrap thier head around the concept?


Another liberal who doesn't understand I used your side's talking points when stating how morally corrupt this country has become.
 
2013-05-08 12:25:18 PM  
Yeah, sometimes you just have to roll the dice and hope the cops are as kinky as you are.

/always been lucky there.. but I know some folks who haven't.
//consent forms, while not always legally binding, go a long way in defusing potentially awkward police visits.
 
2013-05-08 12:25:24 PM  
To be fair to the Cleveland Police, they claim not to have records of those calls.  We should wait until the women have a chance to be interviewed and see if those events ever happened.

Not that I doubt the Cleveland Police might have screwed up, but their records only show two calls for that house, one of which was before any of the girls disappeared.  There is plenty to investigate here.  The people making the accusations may have an axe to grind.

/I know, I know.  Welcome to Fark.
//Lives in Cleveland.
///About a mile from that house.
 
2013-05-08 12:27:22 PM  

EponymousCowHerd: To be fair to the Cleveland Police, they claim not to have records of those calls.


I am shocked that they no longer have the records they have destroyed in order to save face.
 
2013-05-08 12:28:23 PM  
What the fark is wrong with some of you people. You know which ones you are, and I hope you get a whole heap of karma just for thinking such vile things. Ugh!
 
2013-05-08 12:28:42 PM  
And in other cop-hate threads, we are told in no uncertain terms the folly of allowing cops to enter our homes without a warrant.  I am wondering what type of warrant a single siting of a naked woman outside would justify and why cops would go see a judge over that.

I imagine all the puritans are going to grab their new found abilities to harass anyone who throws a "really swinging S&M party" for the foreseeable future.
 
2013-05-08 12:29:41 PM  

Charlie Chingas: ??


Nevermind, just talkin' to myself.
 
2013-05-08 12:31:07 PM  
SithLord:
Magorn:


What's wrong with both of you farknuts?

Take it to the politics tab.
 
2013-05-08 12:31:46 PM  
I hope the pukes who took these girls get 23.5 hours of solitary a day for the remainder of their miserable lives.

Restraining them to a chair with the same ropes and chains in the same house they held these girls in and letting the fathers of said girls go at them with immunity is far more fitting.

yea I know, rule of law and such.
 
2013-05-08 12:35:27 PM  

colinspooky: hindsight


yea, boarded up windows, reports of pensive and scared women and child at the windows is nothing to be checked into.

They probably have some college kids with weed to bust anyway, and they are easier and more cooperative anyway.  Kidnappers and rapists sometimes fight back and shiat, and really, who needs that?
 
2013-05-08 12:36:14 PM  

EponymousCowHerd: To be fair to the Cleveland Police, they claim not to have records of those calls.  We should wait until the women have a chance to be interviewed and see if those events ever happened.

Not that I doubt the Cleveland Police might have screwed up, but their records only show two calls for that house, one of which was before any of the girls disappeared.  There is plenty to investigate here.  The people making the accusations may have an axe to grind.

/I know, I know.  Welcome to Fark.
//Lives in Cleveland.
///About a mile from that house.


This.  I want to see how that issue plays out.  If I were one of their neighbors, I would feel awful about it going on quite near me, but I don't think I'd make up a story about how I had called the cops about something weird.

/My best wishes to the three women, the little girl, and their families.  I hope they find peace somehow.
 
2013-05-08 12:37:25 PM  
Diverting resources from traffic enforcement to actually fight crime?
 
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