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(US Magazine)   Police say the lead singer of the Grammy nominated metal band "As I Lay Dying" forgot the cardinal rule: Unless you are a Mob boss or the head of the CIA, anyone you try to hire as a hitman is really an undercover cop   (usmagazine.com) divider line 154
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2013-05-08 05:20:04 PM
Ah, another metal shiatting thread where all the cultured fark dipshiats tell us how uncivilized us metal fans are. 
 
That being said, As I lay Dying is pretty awful.
 
2013-05-08 05:21:30 PM

Kanemano: How to kill your wife and get away with it.


Take her Kayaking, and get attacked by a "shark"


Is there another article that talks about being charged for murder cuz all I see in that link is the initial shark attack report.
 
2013-05-08 05:22:39 PM

roflmaonow: Kanemano: How to kill your wife and get away with it.


Take her Kayaking, and get attacked by a "shark"

Is there another article that talks about being charged for murder cuz all I see in that link is the initial shark attack report.


Followup
 
2013-05-08 05:47:14 PM
This is why I've never condoned Christians playing heavy metal. People use all sorts of gymnastics to try to justify it; but heavy metal is just not appropriate for Christians. Even if the lyrics are not satanic, it's still all about negativity and self-indulgence and glorifying yourself with guitar solos. I'm sure this guy started out with a pure heart, but when you flirt with the devil long enough, he eventually gets a hold on you.
 
2013-05-08 06:09:19 PM

NorCalLos: This is why I've never condoned Christians playing heavy metal. People use all sorts of gymnastics to try to justify it; but heavy metal is just not appropriate for Christians. Even if the lyrics are not satanic, it's still all about negativity and self-indulgence and glorifying yourself with guitar solos. I'm sure this guy started out with a pure heart, but when you flirt with the devil long enough, he eventually gets a hold on you.


*notsureifserious.jpg*
 
2013-05-08 06:10:43 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-08 06:15:26 PM

darch: NorCalLos: This is why I've never condoned Christians playing heavy metal. People use all sorts of gymnastics to try to justify it; but heavy metal is just not appropriate for Christians. Even if the lyrics are not satanic, it's still all about negativity and self-indulgence and glorifying yourself with guitar solos. I'm sure this guy started out with a pure heart, but when you flirt with the devil long enough, he eventually gets a hold on you.

*notsureifserious.jpg*


Well, I don't know how well I expressed what I was trying to see, but God made music so we could glorify Him. You can't tell me doing your best impression of the devil over some ominous guitars is glorifying to God. I think you know what I mean. I see you share an email address with your significant other, so you must be one of the few other Christians on this website.
 
2013-05-08 06:50:34 PM

topcon: This is why I always outsource my murder-for-hire plots to Indian subcontractors.




They do the needful.
 
2013-05-08 07:01:46 PM
I dunno, The Revelation According to John and the Book of Lamentations are pretty metal to me.
 
2013-05-08 07:06:29 PM

NorCalLos: This is why I've never condoned Christians playing heavy metal. People use all sorts of gymnastics to try to justify it; but heavy metal is just not appropriate for Christians. Even if the lyrics are not satanic, it's still all about negativity and self-indulgence and glorifying yourself with guitar solos. I'm sure this guy started out with a pure heart, but when you flirt with the devil long enough, he eventually gets a hold on you.


Because non-christians are more resilient in the face of Satan and won't buckle under the strain of performing music in the full glare of Satan's love? Or just that christians make sucky rock music?
 
2013-05-08 07:10:13 PM

Carn: orange whip: My friend has a name for metal bands with screaming (read: not singing) front men: Cock Rock cuz only 14-25 year old men like that shiat

I've seen plenty of young chicks at shows like that in the pit moshing and screaming along.  A very small majority mind, but present nonetheless.


And most of them could charitably be described as spherical. Skinny and moshing just don't mix.
 
2013-05-08 07:11:55 PM

LovingTeacher: NorCalLos: This is why I've never condoned Christians playing heavy metal. People use all sorts of gymnastics to try to justify it; but heavy metal is just not appropriate for Christians. Even if the lyrics are not satanic, it's still all about negativity and self-indulgence and glorifying yourself with guitar solos. I'm sure this guy started out with a pure heart, but when you flirt with the devil long enough, he eventually gets a hold on you.

Because non-christians are more resilient in the face of Satan and won't buckle under the strain of performing music in the full glare of Satan's love? Or just that christians make sucky rock music?


I'm not following. Perhaps if you learned how to write in complete sentences (unlike this one).
 
2013-05-08 07:19:01 PM

foxyshadis: Carn: orange whip: My friend has a name for metal bands with screaming (read: not singing) front men: Cock Rock cuz only 14-25 year old men like that shiat

I've seen plenty of young chicks at shows like that in the pit moshing and screaming along.  A very small majority mind, but present nonetheless.

And most of them could charitably be described as spherical. Skinny and moshing just don't mix.


It's not just boys fun.
 
2013-05-08 07:19:59 PM

NorCalLos: LovingTeacher: NorCalLos: This is why I've never condoned Christians playing heavy metal. People use all sorts of gymnastics to try to justify it; but heavy metal is just not appropriate for Christians. Even if the lyrics are not satanic, it's still all about negativity and self-indulgence and glorifying yourself with guitar solos. I'm sure this guy started out with a pure heart, but when you flirt with the devil long enough, he eventually gets a hold on you.

Because non-christians are more resilient in the face of Satan and won't buckle under the strain of performing music in the full glare of Satan's love? Or just that christians make sucky rock music?

I'm not following. Perhaps if you learned how to write in complete sentences (unlike this one).


You said that you don't condone christians making heavy metal. I asked why, is it because if they play rock music they (christians) are  so much weaker than non-christians and they (christians) will become corrupted by Satan and kill people or is it because christians make sucky rock music?

/ I think that is a clear and understandable question
// I also think the reason they should stay out of any rock music is they make sucky rockers.
 
2013-05-08 07:29:54 PM

LovingTeacher: NorCalLos: LovingTeacher: NorCalLos: This is why I've never condoned Christians playing heavy metal. People use all sorts of gymnastics to try to justify it; but heavy metal is just not appropriate for Christians. Even if the lyrics are not satanic, it's still all about negativity and self-indulgence and glorifying yourself with guitar solos. I'm sure this guy started out with a pure heart, but when you flirt with the devil long enough, he eventually gets a hold on you.

Because non-christians are more resilient in the face of Satan and won't buckle under the strain of performing music in the full glare of Satan's love? Or just that christians make sucky rock music?

I'm not following. Perhaps if you learned how to write in complete sentences (unlike this one).

You said that you don't condone christians making heavy metal. I asked why, is it because if they play rock music they (christians) are  so much weaker than non-christians and they (christians) will become corrupted by Satan and kill people or is it because christians make sucky rock music?

/ I think that is a clear and understandable question
// I also think the reason they should stay out of any rock music is they make sucky rockers.


Oh, you were just being snarky. I think I was pretty clear that the reason I don't think Christians should play heavy metal is that it will corrupt them. I don't really have any concern over whether their music sucks or not because, as a tolerant human being I realize that if I don't like something I don't have to listen to it.
 
2013-05-08 07:37:44 PM

NorCalLos: LovingTeacher: NorCalLos: LovingTeacher: NorCalLos: This is why I've never condoned Christians playing heavy metal. People use all sorts of gymnastics to try to justify it; but heavy metal is just not appropriate for Christians. Even if the lyrics are not satanic, it's still all about negativity and self-indulgence and glorifying yourself with guitar solos. I'm sure this guy started out with a pure heart, but when you flirt with the devil long enough, he eventually gets a hold on you.

Because non-christians are more resilient in the face of Satan and won't buckle under the strain of performing music in the full glare of Satan's love? Or just that christians make sucky rock music?

I'm not following. Perhaps if you learned how to write in complete sentences (unlike this one).

You said that you don't condone christians making heavy metal. I asked why, is it because if they play rock music they (christians) are  so much weaker than non-christians and they (christians) will become corrupted by Satan and kill people or is it because christians make sucky rock music?

/ I think that is a clear and understandable question
// I also think the reason they should stay out of any rock music is they make sucky rockers.

Oh, you were just being snarky. I think I was pretty clear that the reason I don't think Christians should play heavy metal is that it will corrupt them. I don't really have any concern over whether their music sucks or not because, as a tolerant human being I realize that if I don't like something I don't have to listen to it.


YES I WAS BEING SNARKY!

Like "darch" I find it hilarious that you think that a particular style of music is "satanic" or "evil" no matter what the lyrics might be. Do you also find the Beatles and Elvis are corrupting our youth by imitating that horrible negro music?
 
2013-05-08 07:48:50 PM

LovingTeacher: YES I WAS BEING SNARKY!

Like "darch" I find it hilarious that you think that a particular style of music is "satanic" or "evil" no matter what the lyrics might be. Do you also find the Beatles and Elvis are corrupting our youth by imitating that horrible negro music?


I have no problem with Africa-Americans, but yes I do have a problem with music being used to tittilate and tempt adolescents. I find it disturbing that I can't turn on the radio or television without exposing my daughter to sexual content. I wasn't arount to observe it, but from what I've studied, Elvis seems to have brought that garbage into the mainstream.
 
2013-05-08 08:00:22 PM

NorCalLos: LovingTeacher: YES I WAS BEING SNARKY!

Like "darch" I find it hilarious that you think that a particular style of music is "satanic" or "evil" no matter what the lyrics might be. Do you also find the Beatles and Elvis are corrupting our youth by imitating that horrible negro music?

I have no problem with Africa-Americans, but yes I do have a problem with music being used to tittilate and tempt adolescents. I find it disturbing that I can't turn on the radio or television without exposing my daughter to sexual content. I wasn't arount to observe it, but from what I've studied, Elvis seems to have brought that garbage into the mainstream.


Man I usually don't fall for trolls but I guess I did this time.
 
2013-05-08 08:06:33 PM
NorCalLos, Lol.

Loving Teacher, come on man, really?
 
2013-05-08 08:55:15 PM

Lemmy Kilmister: Please.

that's not "singing" . not even close. Screaming with aggressive music is just that, screaming.

you can polish a turd until it shines, but it's still a turd.


But is it not still shiny?
 
2013-05-08 09:16:59 PM
I'm pretty sure I have one of their CD's in a box in my garage that I listened to once.
Might have to give it another spin.
 
2013-05-08 09:21:45 PM
Yeah- I'm pretty sure I got trolled by NorCalLos.
 
2013-05-08 09:30:52 PM

No Time To Explain: Lemmy Kilmister: No Time To Explain: Lemmy Kilmister: Please.

that's not "singing" . not even close. Screaming with aggressive music is just that, screaming.

you can polish a turd until it shines, but it's still a turd.

Don't like metal because you can't understand the lyrics?
Nicki Minaj must be a true poet

/I keed, partially
//lot of good metal bands that have understandable, thought provoking/meaningful lyrics, and many where it's instrumental
///love me my metal

Rob Halford sings
Dio sang
Doro Pesch sings

this asshole just screams

no talent, no merit.

Not arguing with you there, needs to be a proper 80'a revival

/like I stated, adm is the only thing I like from Tim, there's still guttural vocals I can enjoy, Opeth, LoG, (Dethklok gets honourable mention for being an awesome parody at the genre)
//Dio was the rare guy who could sing about rainbows and still be manly


No Time To Explain: //Dio was the rare guy who could sing about rainbows and still be manly




You sound like a poser.
i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2013-05-08 09:40:22 PM

darch: Yeah- I'm pretty sure I got trolled by NorCalLos.


I wouldn't even call it a troll because it was so obviously tongue in cheek. I really didn't expect anyone to take the Christian heavy metal stuff seriously. I do think certain sounds do evils certain emotions in people, though I think it's mostly a learned behavior. And I do believe music often has a significant effect on the emotions and behavior of those who perform and listen to it; but I don't necessarily believe in God and Satan per se. I think an instrumental heavy metal album could help inspire a young man who believes the music is compelling him to do something "evil" to do so.

Having said that, I do believe in what I said about Elvis and pop culture to a certain extent.
 
2013-05-08 10:01:20 PM
Dude- you need to get out more.
 
2013-05-08 10:11:33 PM

darch: Dude- you need to get out more.


Nah-I just have a daughter. Ironically, going out in public is not nearly as offensive as staying home and watching TV/movie/listening to most radio/podcasts. You don't find it odd that every primetime network tv show and top 40 radio station is filled with content that if said in the work place could get you fired/sued for sexual harassment? I understand that the workplace and entertainment are two totally separate worlds, but if you take a step back there is clearly a bit if a disconnect. I'm no prude as far as media I consume or even create. I like Usher as much as the next guy (joke); but I think there is an argument to be made for more strict  guidines on content.
 
2013-05-08 10:24:30 PM
I guess i'm the only 32 year old guy that still likes this band. Pure headbanging grooved out shiat to jam to at a show.  I love the production of their albums and had a blast seeing them multiple times over the years .

I'm still bummed out about jeff hanneman dying off, too.

Tim is a pretty big idiot apparently, deserves whatever he gets. Just ironic that the lead singer of cannibal corpse is totally clean living and spends all his time playing world of warcraft, and the lead singer of a christian-ish metal band tries to get his wife offed.
 
2013-05-08 11:42:55 PM
Phedex

I'm a few years older than you, but I like their sound, which actually got me to buy one of their albums. I just found that they didn't have the actual songs to allow me to really enjoy their music or take them seriously enough to listen to it repeatedly--and my standard isn't that high. I genuinely like quite a bit of music that others don't take seriously like Mindless Self Indulgence and 36 Crazyfists.
 
2013-05-08 11:45:35 PM
Way to fark over the rest of your band- they were slated to start touring shortly.

/headline sucks
 
2013-05-09 12:23:11 AM
Just for the record, Tim Lambesis is very talented - with the exception of the Ahnult lines and guest guitar solos, he played every instrument on the Austrian Death Machine albums.

He's just not a talented singer.
 
2013-05-09 01:36:40 AM

NorCalLos: darch: Dude- you need to get out more.

Nah-I just have a daughter. Ironically, going out in public is not nearly as offensive as staying home and watching TV/movie/listening to most radio/podcasts. You don't find it odd that every primetime network tv show and top 40 radio station is filled with content that if said in the work place could get you fired/sued for sexual harassment? I understand that the workplace and entertainment are two totally separate worlds, but if you take a step back there is clearly a bit if a disconnect. I'm no prude as far as media I consume or even create. I like Usher as much as the next guy (joke); but I think there is an argument to be made for more strict  guidines on content.


And I think there is an argument for fewer guidelines on content. It's YOUR kid- it's YOUR responsibility.

Enough with parading children to the forefront to cover for your own insecurities. Why do parents DO that?
 
2013-05-09 07:51:22 AM

ShadowKamui: manimal2878: 99.998er: I have never, ever, ever entertained the idea of murdering my wife/girlfriend. But if I did, I would dress like a lumberjack with fake beard & mustache, plaid hat and all, and of course workman's gloves. Go to the hardware store up in the next county and buy a gas powered wood chipper with cash. Then I would plant said wood chipper about 678 yards up in the woods off old county rd. 312 just off that dirt road on the right that is 1.23 miles past the abandoned post office. Next I would lure my wife/GF for a leisurely picnic in the woods, making sure she had no jewelry or personal belongings with her...like phone, purse, etc. Then, after plying her with roofie laced wine, I would disrobe her and send her body head first into wood chipper, making sure to collect any teeth that may have passed unharmed. I would bundle up her clothes and take them back home with me and simply put them in the wash.

But again, the idea of killing her has never crossed my mind.

Is the thought of using the wood chipper to punish her corpse to dispose of evidence?  It would seem to me that a wood chipper would actually be spraying evidence everywhere, and blood and bits of bone and hair would be impossible to completely clean from the chipper so now the chipper itself is a big hunk of evidence.

Seems the best way to get rid of a body is to dissolve it in acid like in Breaking Bad.

Pig farm


I think you would have an easier time bringing acid to your corpse, than getting your corpse into a pig farm unnoticed.
 
2013-05-09 07:56:53 AM

NorCalLos: darch: NorCalLos: This is why I've never condoned Christians playing heavy metal. People use all sorts of gymnastics to try to justify it; but heavy metal is just not appropriate for Christians. Even if the lyrics are not satanic, it's still all about negativity and self-indulgence and glorifying yourself with guitar solos. I'm sure this guy started out with a pure heart, but when you flirt with the devil long enough, he eventually gets a hold on you.

*notsureifserious.jpg*

Well, I don't know how well I expressed what I was trying to see, but God made music so we could glorify Him. You can't tell me doing your best impression of the devil over some ominous guitars is glorifying to God. I think you know what I mean. I see you share an email address with your significant other, so you must be one of the few other Christians on this website.


I think metal had a silly reputation for that sort of thing in the 80s and probably still does in certain genres, but most of the metal bands that I ever listened to sing more about science fiction stuff or politics or just a lot of emo stuff with bands like Thursday and SensesFail.  Heck, my favorite band, the Deftones, I can only think of songs that seem to indicate they are believers.
 
2013-05-09 10:52:36 AM

NorCalLos: LovingTeacher: YES I WAS BEING SNARKY!

Like "darch" I find it hilarious that you think that a particular style of music is "satanic" or "evil" no matter what the lyrics might be. Do you also find the Beatles and Elvis are corrupting our youth by imitating that horrible negro music?

I have no problem with Africa-Americans, but yes I do have a problem with music being used to tittilate and tempt adolescents. I find it disturbing that I can't turn on the radio or television without exposing my daughter to sexual content. I wasn't arount to observe it, but from what I've studied, Elvis seems to have brought that garbage into the mainstream.


Gramps?? When did you learn how to internet?
 
2013-05-09 11:49:10 AM
I'm listening through the album and it's kinda meh. Very standard, not too varied. Lyrics are a little emo, and even though it's that scream vocal stuff you should still be able to make out more of the words. I know, it's so unhip to actually be able to make out the words.
 
2013-05-09 11:53:38 AM

phedex: I guess i'm the only 32 year old guy that still likes this band. Pure headbanging grooved out shiat to jam to at a show.  I love the production of their albums and had a blast seeing them multiple times over the years .

I'm still bummed out about jeff hanneman dying off, too.

Tim is a pretty big idiot apparently, deserves whatever he gets. Just ironic that the lead singer of cannibal corpse is totally clean living and spends all his time playing world of warcraft, and the lead singer of a christian-ish metal band tries to get his wife offed.


I'm 47.  You're not alone.
 
2013-05-09 01:03:14 PM

darch: And I think there is an argument for fewer guidelines on content. It's YOUR kid- it's YOUR responsibility.

Enough with parading children to the forefront to cover for your own insecurities. Why do parents DO that?


The personal attack makes it clear you're thinking emotionally, not rationally; so I'm not going to discuss this with you anymore. This has nothing to do with any doubts I may have about myself. I'm not parading anyone anywhere. I have no problem protecting my child from people like you who seem to think they can say and do whatever they want regardless of who's watching. I just find it odd that in the workplace where there are zero children, everyone is so up tight about anything remotely sexual, but on television, radio, and internet which is streamed into our living rooms it's virtually impossible to find content that is stimulating to adults that isn't saturated with sex.
 
2013-05-09 01:05:18 PM
manimal2878:


I think metal had a silly reputation for that sort of thing in the 80s and probably still does in certain genres, but most of the metal bands that I ever listened to sing more about science fiction stuff or politics or just a lot of emo stuff with bands like Thursday and SensesFail.  Heck, my favorite band, the Deftones, I can only think of songs that seem to indicate they are believers.

That's great, but what you're listening to isn't metal.
 
2013-05-09 01:09:26 PM

NorCalLos: manimal2878:


I think metal had a silly reputation for that sort of thing in the 80s and probably still does in certain genres, but most of the metal bands that I ever listened to sing more about science fiction stuff or politics or just a lot of emo stuff with bands like Thursday and SensesFail.  Heck, my favorite band, the Deftones, I can only think of songs that seem to indicate they are believers.

That's great, but what you're listening to isn't metal.


Well now that you won't engage in conversation regarding children and "protecting" them, what, pray tell, do YOU consider "metal"? I can't WAIT to hear this one.
 
2013-05-09 01:51:50 PM

darch: NorCalLos: manimal2878:


I think metal had a silly reputation for that sort of thing in the 80s and probably still does in certain genres, but most of the metal bands that I ever listened to sing more about science fiction stuff or politics or just a lot of emo stuff with bands like Thursday and SensesFail.  Heck, my favorite band, the Deftones, I can only think of songs that seem to indicate they are believers.

That's great, but what you're listening to isn't metal.

Well now that you won't engage in conversation regarding children and "protecting" them, what, pray tell, do YOU consider "metal"? I can't WAIT to hear this one.


You are obviously too simple to realize that neither of these things has anything to do with the other, but the bands he mentioned are emo/screamo, with the exception of Deftones who are Nu-Metal/alternative metal. Metal is something entirely different that I shouldn't have to explain, but...Slayer, Sepultura, Deicide, Napalm Death...hell, even Pantera and Metallica are way more metal than any of these bands.
 
2013-05-09 01:53:45 PM

darch: NorCalLos: manimal2878:


I think metal had a silly reputation for that sort of thing in the 80s and probably still does in certain genres, but most of the metal bands that I ever listened to sing more about science fiction stuff or politics or just a lot of emo stuff with bands like Thursday and SensesFail.  Heck, my favorite band, the Deftones, I can only think of songs that seem to indicate they are believers.

That's great, but what you're listening to isn't metal.

Well now that you won't engage in conversation regarding children and "protecting" them, what, pray tell, do YOU consider "metal"? I can't WAIT to hear this one.


Hell, Stryper has more metal cred than Thursday, Senses Fail, or Deftones.
 
2013-05-09 03:04:18 PM

NorCalLos: darch: NorCalLos: manimal2878:


I think metal had a silly reputation for that sort of thing in the 80s and probably still does in certain genres, but most of the metal bands that I ever listened to sing more about science fiction stuff or politics or just a lot of emo stuff with bands like Thursday and SensesFail.  Heck, my favorite band, the Deftones, I can only think of songs that seem to indicate they are believers.

That's great, but what you're listening to isn't metal.

Well now that you won't engage in conversation regarding children and "protecting" them, what, pray tell, do YOU consider "metal"? I can't WAIT to hear this one.

Hell, Stryper has more metal cred than Thursday, Senses Fail, or Deftones.


I am in no way "simple" and will not react to your put-downs, but I must say that I agree with your last assessment.
 
2013-05-09 03:36:06 PM

NorCalLos: manimal2878:


I think metal had a silly reputation for that sort of thing in the 80s and probably still does in certain genres, but most of the metal bands that I ever listened to sing more about science fiction stuff or politics or just a lot of emo stuff with bands like Thursday and SensesFail.  Heck, my favorite band, the Deftones, I can only think of songs that seem to indicate they are believers.

That's great, but what you're listening to isn't metal.


Before I engage in this debate, why don't you define metal for me, and tell me why those bands aren't metal.
 
2013-05-09 03:39:15 PM
manimal2878:

Before I engage in this debate, why don't you define metal for me, and tell me why those bands aren't metal.

I didn't mean it as an insult. I like Thursday and Deftones. It's just not metal. I'm not going to define metal for you. If you'd like to hear a ridiculous argument about that, search Fark for old threads.
 
2013-05-09 03:45:51 PM

NorCalLos: manimal2878:

Before I engage in this debate, why don't you define metal for me, and tell me why those bands aren't metal.

I didn't mean it as an insult. I like Thursday and Deftones. It's just not metal. I'm not going to define metal for you. If you'd like to hear a ridiculous argument about that, search Fark for old threads.


You are not going to define metal, because by any definition they are clearly metal.  Perhaps you shouldn't make stupid claims if you aren't willing to back them up.
 
2013-05-09 04:03:06 PM

manimal2878: NorCalLos: manimal2878:

Before I engage in this debate, why don't you define metal for me, and tell me why those bands aren't metal.

I didn't mean it as an insult. I like Thursday and Deftones. It's just not metal. I'm not going to define metal for you. If you'd like to hear a ridiculous argument about that, search Fark for old threads.

You are not going to define metal, because by any definition they are clearly metal.  Perhaps you shouldn't make stupid claims if you aren't willing to back them up.


I'm not going to try to define metal because it's partly subjective and impossible to define definitively. In general, a few things that separate the bands you mentioned from what I consider metal are tempo, guitar solos, and aggressive drumming/blast beats (snare drum at every quarter-note, aggressive double-bass playing). Also, absent: highly technical guitar parts, particularly lead guitar. Also, metal generally has a rigid feel to it, not something you can really nod your head to. That's why people bang their heads to it. Also, metal songs generally feature two distinct guitar parts played simultaneously, usually one lead and one rhythm. Of course there are exceptions to these general guidelines, but there's a start for you. Now to go you tube and listen to Cannibal Corps, Morbid Angel, and Slayer; then click on any of the other bands that come up in the sidebar and listen to them. You're welcome for the education.
 
2013-05-09 04:12:05 PM

NorCalLos: manimal2878: NorCalLos: manimal2878:

Before I engage in this debate, why don't you define metal for me, and tell me why those bands aren't metal.

I didn't mean it as an insult. I like Thursday and Deftones. It's just not metal. I'm not going to define metal for you. If you'd like to hear a ridiculous argument about that, search Fark for old threads.

You are not going to define metal, because by any definition they are clearly metal.  Perhaps you shouldn't make stupid claims if you aren't willing to back them up.

I'm not going to try to define metal because it's partly subjective and impossible to define definitively. In general, a few things that separate the bands you mentioned from what I consider metal are tempo, guitar solos, and aggressive drumming/blast beats (snare drum at every quarter-note, aggressive double-bass playing). Also, absent: highly technical guitar parts, particularly lead guitar. Also, metal generally has a rigid feel to it, not something you can really nod your head to. That's why people bang their heads to it. Also, metal songs generally feature two distinct guitar parts played simultaneously, usually one lead and one rhythm. Of course there are exceptions to these general guidelines, but there's a start for you. Now to go you tube and listen to Cannibal Corps, Morbid Angel, and Slayer; then click on any of the other bands that come up in the sidebar and listen to them. You're welcome for the education.


You are truly confounding us, NorCalLos. Are you a troll? An arrogant prick who believes his own self-invented hype? Or are you just an asocial asshole?
 
2013-05-09 04:17:41 PM
darch:

You are truly confounding us, NorCalLos. Are you a troll? An arrogant prick who believes his own self-invented hype? Or are you just an asocial asshole?

YOU insulted ME and I'm an asocial asshole/troll? OK.
 
2013-05-09 04:27:39 PM
Yeah, because troll or not, your overwhelming sense of entitlement and smugness DRIPS off the screen.
 
2013-05-09 04:28:43 PM
And also- it's farking creepy that you checked my profile and commented on my email address in the thread.
 
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