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(RamblingBeachCat.com)   The Ghost Driver is a fun prank to pull at the drive thru, but it's not recommended when you're pulled over by the police   (ramblingbeachcat.com) divider line 12
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2013-05-08 01:43:46 PM
2 votes:
In Boston, they'd just peek through teh hundreds of bullet holes.
2013-05-08 12:40:17 PM
2 votes:
Let that guy walk, because THAT is some pretty funny sh*t right there.

Yes, I'm childish. Don't care.
2013-05-08 04:47:45 PM
1 votes:

durbnpoisn: Oznog: Wade_Wilson:

Uh...  No.  First of all, you only have the right to remain silent once you're arrested.  That right doesn't come up while you are being questioned in an investigation.  If you refuse to answer or lie, you are actually widtholding evidence and hindering the investigation.  Then you'd be in real trouble.


I'm no legal expert, but I'm pretty sure that this part of the Miranda rights are an extension of the 5th Amendment of the Constitution, which state you have the right (regardless of being arrested or detained for questioning) to not be a witness against yourself. The Miranda rights must be READ at time of arrest, but they are valid at all times in a person's life.

If what you said were true, then no suspects would ever be arrested until after their guilt was already determined.
2013-05-08 04:31:00 PM
1 votes:

durbnpoisn: Oznog: Wade_Wilson: Meh. Funny visual, but no way it could have worked. They would have ran the license plates even before he pulled over, and gotten his name and address. Even if he had successfully driven off, they'd just show up at his house the next day to ask what the hell.

True, but the legal system prefers to catch a person red-handed.

IF the officers come by and ask "what the hell", IF he is smart enough to fully assert his Right To Remain Silent from the first moment, the evidence is generally insufficient to prosecute.  Who was driving?  Is the court simply going to take the officer at his word that this was the vehicle, and not mistaken when reading the plate, or lying for whatever reason?  Even high-resolution dashcams don't show plate numbers unless fairly close, and don't prove the driver.

Keep in mind that asserting Right To Remain Silent CANNOT be used as admission of guilt.  If he doesn't lie and say "no I lent it to this guy, uh, Rusty Schackleford, no, I don't know where he lives, he's about yay tall..." they'll punch holes in that and the discredited lie IS proof it was you.  But simply declining to respond is not evidence, and without that, there's insufficient evidence to prove guilt, with a GOOD lawyer this could plausibly go away.


Uh...  No.  First of all, you only have the right to remain silent once you're arrested.  That right doesn't come up while you are being questioned in an investigation.  If you refuse to answer or lie, you are actually widtholding evidence and hindering the investigation.  Then you'd be in real trouble.


Supreme Court just heard a case about this exact issue (Salinas v Texas, argued in mid-April).   From the Oral Arguments, it appears that the Right to Remain Silent will attach any time people talk to the police.   It exists, whether or not you have been arrested.  It is an extension of your 5th Amendment right to not be a witness against yourself.
2013-05-08 04:01:00 PM
1 votes:

Wade_Wilson: Meh. Funny visual, but no way it could have worked. They would have ran the license plates even before he pulled over, and gotten his name and address. Even if he had successfully driven off, they'd just show up at his house the next day to ask what the hell.


True, but the legal system prefers to catch a person red-handed.

IF the officers come by and ask "what the hell", IF he is smart enough to fully assert his Right To Remain Silent from the first moment, the evidence is generally insufficient to prosecute.  Who was driving?  Is the court simply going to take the officer at his word that this was the vehicle, and not mistaken when reading the plate, or lying for whatever reason?  Even high-resolution dashcams don't show plate numbers unless fairly close, and don't prove the driver.

Keep in mind that asserting Right To Remain Silent CANNOT be used as admission of guilt.  If he doesn't lie and say "no I lent it to this guy, uh, Rusty Schackleford, no, I don't know where he lives, he's about yay tall..." they'll punch holes in that and the discredited lie IS proof it was you.  But simply declining to respond is not evidence, and without that, there's insufficient evidence to prove guilt, with a GOOD lawyer this could plausibly go away.
2013-05-08 02:40:19 PM
1 votes:
It's not SOP to check the trunk?
2013-05-08 02:03:55 PM
1 votes:
Sounds like he might have gotten away if he hadn't been a dumbass and started up round 2.
2013-05-08 01:47:27 PM
1 votes:
But was the perp fluffy?
2013-05-08 01:45:48 PM
1 votes:
Genius....he should have just stayed there....however, when the tow truck came......
/drive out of impound yard??
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-05-08 01:10:16 PM
1 votes:
If only he had been more patient. And had a cell phone to call a buddy to watch.
2013-05-08 12:44:11 PM
1 votes:
I expected it to be him.
2013-05-08 11:52:51 AM
1 votes:
Imagine the officers' surprise, however, when they looked inside the car and discovered that there wasn't anyone there. Police spent a few minutes inspecting the vehicle, but to no avail. They were unable to find anyone inside the car, nor had they seen anyone exit the car during the stop.

"How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth? " -Sherlock Holmes

No shiat.
 
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