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(KPIC Roseburg)   Sideshow Bob to plead insanity. By Lucifer's beard, we will all live to regret this   (kpic.com) divider line 88
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2013-05-08 08:46:22 AM  
what now are they gonna lock him up in a padded room?  and he's gonna write "BART SIMPSON WILL DIE" on the walls with his MOUTH??
 
2013-05-08 09:20:35 AM  
I approve of calling him Sideshow Bob.  His name is irrelevant.  Whether he dies in prison, gets the needle or dies in a looney bin, I don't care.
 
2013-05-08 09:29:29 AM  

nekom: I approve of calling him Sideshow Bob.  His name is irrelevant.  Whether he dies in prison, gets the needle or dies in a looney bin, I don't care.


there is the remote possibility that if declared insane ,he could be declared sane at a later date .
I suspect they would then put him back in regular prison , because politically it would be a big deal.
 
2013-05-08 12:22:44 PM  
Firstly, the "Sideshow Bob" thing is lame. Second, of course his scumbag lawyer is going to tell him to plead insanity. The thing is, you have to be somewhat insane to kill anyone for no reason. That doesn't mean that everyone who kills someone for no reason deserves a cushy suite at Arkham Asylum.
 
2013-05-08 12:37:39 PM  

Mugato: Firstly, the "Sideshow Bob" thing is lame. Second, of course his scumbag lawyer is going to tell him to plead insanity. The thing is, you have to be somewhat insane to kill anyone for no reason. That doesn't mean that everyone who kills someone for no reason deserves a cushy suite at Arkham Asylum.


The Sideshow Bob thing is perfect.  Don't dignify this piece of shiat by ever using his real name.  I've forgotten entirely what it is, and I will continue not to care.  And as for his lawyer, why is he or she a scumbag?  Even the clearly guilty, even those accused of the most heinous of crimes deserve a fair trial.  No matter what happens, he's toast and he'll die in prison.
 
2013-05-08 12:44:01 PM  
Why don't you pussies just start calling him He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named?

Also, you don't get to go on and on about him being crazy, then be pissed off that his lawyers are attempting to say that he is, you know, crazy.
 
2013-05-08 12:54:52 PM  
Certain times when it's really obvious like with this shooting? Bullet to the head, cremate.

You know what? Save the bullet and skip straight to cremate.
 
2013-05-08 01:05:58 PM  
Well, he still seems to have crazy eyes.  But that was an awful lot of meticulous planning for a crazy defense.
 
2013-05-08 01:09:51 PM  

Mugato: Firstly, the "Sideshow Bob" thing is lame. Second, of course his scumbag lawyer is going to tell him to plead insanity. The thing is, you have to be somewhat insane to kill anyone for no reason. That doesn't mean that everyone who kills someone for no reason deserves a cushy suite at Arkham Asylum.


Except for the fact that he IS crazy. Even school psychologists that interviewed him knew he was nuts and tried to call the cops to report him with nothing they could do about it.   Jesus H. Christ.
 
2013-05-08 01:10:20 PM  
Keep humping that chicken.
 
2013-05-08 01:10:38 PM  

Diogenes: Well, he still seems to have crazy eyes.  But that was an awful lot of meticulous planning for a crazy defense.


You don't have to be sane to be smart.
 
2013-05-08 01:10:45 PM  
We are all a little insane, only things is some of us get caught.....
 
2013-05-08 01:10:50 PM  

Aarontology


Why don't you pussies just start calling him He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named?


Voldemort?
 
2013-05-08 01:12:18 PM  
Jon iz teh kewl [TotalFark]

what now are they gonna lock him up in a padded room? and he's gonna write "BART SIMPSON WILL DIE" on the walls with his MOUTH??


He wrote "Die Bart Die" which is German for "The Bart the". And as you know, Zee germans are not a war-like people.
 
2013-05-08 01:12:23 PM  
Can we commence with posting the verticals/captions?  Those things are hilarious.
 
2013-05-08 01:12:59 PM  
Is Sideshow Milhouse a Benghazi yet?
 
2013-05-08 01:13:45 PM  

Mega Steve: You don't have to be sane to be smart.


In fact, sometimes it's an inverse relation..

//I think einstein and hawking are the two sane uber-geniuses...
 
2013-05-08 01:14:56 PM  
He wired up his apartment to blow the place sky high if the door was opened. It was so intricately done, it took bomb experts a day or so to gtet it to the point where they could enter and start disarming everything. If he was coherent enough to do something that complex with malice aforethought, his insanity excuse should be null and void. Period.
 
2013-05-08 01:16:13 PM  

Mega Steve: Diogenes: Well, he still seems to have crazy eyes.  But that was an awful lot of meticulous planning for a crazy defense.

You don't have to be sane to be smart.


No, but mens rea undercuts a legal insanity plea.

Even Reese Witherspoon knows that ;-)
 
2013-05-08 01:17:01 PM  

PunkTiger: He wired up his apartment to blow the place sky high if the door was opened. It was so intricately done, it took bomb experts a day or so to gtet it to the point where they could enter and start disarming everything. If he was coherent enough to do something that complex with malice aforethought, his insanity excuse should be null and void. Period.


Insanity and meticulous planning are not polar opposites. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe what they need to prove to quash an insanity defense is that he understood what he was doing at the time, and knew that it was wrong.
 
2013-05-08 01:17:20 PM  
Competent psychologists can tell when someone's faking insanity. If he's not legit, he won't pass muster. And if he is, well, then an institution is the best place for him.
 
2013-05-08 01:17:46 PM  
JAMES HOLMES

As soon as I saw "Sideshow Bob", his name popped into my head. I agree that the "Sideshow Bob" thing is really lame. It was a pathetic attempt to anonymize Holmes and failed miserably wtih the general public.
 
2013-05-08 01:19:13 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Aarontology

Why don't you pussies just start calling him He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named?


Voldemort?


Now you've gone and done it!!!!  He has been summoned!!!

www.thefancarpet.com

oops...  I mean...

cdn.blogs.sheknows.com
 
2013-05-08 01:20:14 PM  

Aarontology: Why don't you pussies just start calling him He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named?


Because screw terrorists, mass murdering psychopaths or religious nuts, the one group of people no one wants to fark with is J. K. Rowlings team of lawyers.
 
2013-05-08 01:20:25 PM  
Look, there's run-of-the-mill insane. Then, there's the type of insane that deserves its own media- Art Bell or the "Aliens." guy. That's OK, the second type of insane can be entertaining.

This dude, though, he's got the type of insane that led him to kill a bunch of people. It's not like he's really going to be contributing a whole lot to society, ever. Let's just put him down like a bad dog and get on with our lives as best we can.
 
2013-05-08 01:21:33 PM  
Insane or not, he committed premeditated mass murder.  He didn't just snap, he meticulously planned the murder of men women and children at a movie theater.  There is no amount of therapy or medication that could ever convince me that he is not a threat to society and innocent civilians.  He should never see the light of day again.
 
2013-05-08 01:23:35 PM  
I just call him "that douchebag who shot up the movie theater" because it's descriptive and easy to remember. I have no idea what his name is.
 
2013-05-08 01:23:49 PM  
I think the Public Pretenders are going the only route they can with Sideshow here.  However, it will be a tough sell.  From my understanding, using the insanity defense, you must prove that the perp was not capable of understanding what his actions were.  Considering he meticulously planned the attack (including getting all dolled up in police-level riot gear) plus wired up his apartment to the point that it took EOD specialists 3 days to clear - appears he knew exactly what he was doing.
 
2013-05-08 01:25:01 PM  
This.

nekom: The Sideshow Bob thing is perfect.


Let's see: you could use a name that has instant meaning to millions of people ("Sideshow Bob"), OR you could use a bland, generic name that just fades into the background because it is so common (James Holmes).

Gee, which will land the guy in Obscurity Land faster...?
 
2013-05-08 01:25:24 PM  

bedtundy


Now you've gone and done it!!!! He has been summoned!!!

[pic]

oops... I mean...

[pic]


No problem. It's Fiennes either way.
 
2013-05-08 01:26:46 PM  
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2013-05-08 01:28:37 PM  
Fine. Put him a looney bin. For life. With nurse Rachett. Fark him.
Seriously, feed him garbage from dumpsters.
If he biatches, say, what are you going to do? Write a letter in crayon to the guvnah?
you're cray cray dude. No one's going to listen to you.
And just forget about him, like the prisoner of Zendam, but with no twists.
Every 5 years or so, move him to a new nuthouse with a different name, and give him a more heinous back story than the last joint had that he was in. Keep upping the sickness of what he did so the handlers don't even want to poke him. "Yeah, he ate the babbys he made them have" - "We couldn't ever tell the public the real story, they would have crucified him" Keep moving him, and keep burying him deeper and deeper in the system so he falls through the cracks of the cracks and ends up food for the bottom feeders. Oh, and Superglue a latex monkey mask on his face with a bunch of rubber dicks superglued to it, just for yuks, too.
/Can't say I don't have a sense of humor, Doc.
// Signed Randall P. McMurphey.
/// (Chief called me "Little Red-Beaver"
 
2013-05-08 01:28:51 PM  
 Calling him Sideshow Bob to take away his fame, in a headline, then linking to an article that shows his name, is retarded. You want to do something about spreading his fame? Stop green-lighting links that talk about him for tens of thousands of people to see.
 
2013-05-08 01:29:00 PM  
We know the guy is crazy, you must be crazy to imagine shooting up a crowded theatre is a good idea.

The question is, is he insane, was he able to tell right from wrong?  that, as I understand it, is the legal point that's has to be proved for the insanity defense.

Personally, I suppose life in a mental hospital is a bit better than life in prison, but I sure hope never to have to make that choice myself.

No question that he did it.
 
2013-05-08 01:31:52 PM  

Talos: I think the Public Pretenders are going the only route they can with Sideshow here.  However, it will be a tough sell.  From my understanding, using the insanity defense, you must prove that the perp was not capable of understanding what his actions were.  Considering he meticulously planned the attack (including getting all dolled up in police-level riot gear) plus wired up his apartment to the point that it took EOD specialists 3 days to clear - appears he knew exactly what he was doing.


Quite likely. I think the crux of the insanity defense argument would have to be that he didn't understand what he was doing was wrong. That he was in some kind of delusional state where this was all a correct and sensible course of action. Far fetched, I know, but there are some variations on paranoid delusional schizophrenia that might shake out that way. Still competent enough to manipulate the world around him, but way too far gone to understand the consequences and implications of his actions.
 
2013-05-08 01:35:51 PM  
Fine, I'll do it
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2013-05-08 01:38:19 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: what now are they gonna lock him up in a padded room?  and he's gonna write "BART SIMPSON WILL DIE" on the walls with his MOUTH??


Yeah...he'll be doing something with his mouth alright...
 
2013-05-08 01:46:43 PM  
Who brings a 6 year old to a midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises?
 
2013-05-08 01:47:16 PM  

PunkTiger: He wired up his apartment to blow the place sky high if the door was opened. It was so intricately done, it took bomb experts a day or so to gtet it to the point where they could enter and start disarming everything. If he was coherent enough to do something that complex with malice aforethought, his insanity excuse should be null and void. Period.


There is a difference between insane and retarted.
not saying you dont have a point.
 
2013-05-08 01:49:43 PM  
sithon:
there is the remote possibility that if declared insane ,he could be declared sane at a later date .
I suspect they would then put him back in regular prison , because politically it would be a big deal.


This scenario will never pan out.  That's not how our laws are written.  Given the notion that he is found insane, It would be just so much easier to ensure that no doctor ever declares him sane.
 
2013-05-08 01:50:19 PM  
OK, upon further research the youngest person shot was 3 months old.  WTF is up with people bringing small children to a violent 3 hour movie at midnight?
 
2013-05-08 01:52:34 PM  

quantum_csc: OK, upon further research the youngest person shot was 3 months old.  WTF is up with people bringing small children to a violent 3 hour movie at midnight?


1.  Purchase life insurance policy on 3 month old Batman fan.
2.
3.  Profit!
 
2013-05-08 01:54:02 PM  

quantum_csc: Who brings a 6 year old to a midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises?


I was 2 when I saw Jaws in the theater. Not sure what time it was but what's the big deal?
 
2013-05-08 01:57:11 PM  

quantum_csc: OK, upon further research the youngest person shot was 3 months old.  WTF is up with people bringing small children to a violent 3 hour movie at midnight?


Why take a 3 month old to that movie any time?
 
2013-05-08 02:06:52 PM  
People bring small childeren to movies especially late ones hoping to enjoy a date night while the baby sleeps. Anyone with a new born baby can vouche for this. Kid sleeps in its car seat or stroller or whatever. And the couple gets to pretend theyre still in love for a couple hours.

Who brings a 6 year old to a midnight batman movie?
mabey dad only gets 1 weekend a month to see said kid.
and kid loves batman. You get to be the cool dad and score some brownie points with junior.

dont know why people are hung up on kids at a movie at that hour. Its not like it was schindlers list either guys.
 
2013-05-08 02:17:09 PM  
posting in a James Holmes thead
 
2013-05-08 02:24:08 PM  

nekom:  Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe what they need to prove to quash an insanity defense is that he understood what he was doing at the time, and knew that it was wrong.

I'm not a lawyer, but I have watched a lot of Law & Order, and I think you're right.  His lawyers will have to try to convince the court that he wasn't able to comprehend right and wrong.  The prosecution will try to demonstrate that he did still know right from wrong.  From what we know about the case, there's a couple avenues the prosecution could use to try to demonstrate that...

1. James Holmes wore a gas mask.  The prosecution might argue that if someone tries to hide their face during a crime, it is a sign that they know what they're doing it wrong.  The defense will probably say that James wore the gas mask not to conceal his identity, but either as part of the costume for his delusional fantasy, or purely for it's functional use.

2. James Holmes threw some gas canisters.  The argument might be made that James threw the canisters to lessen the ability of the crowd to resist his actions, and thus he must have known what he was about to do would go against the wishes of everyone there.  The defense will likely counter, though, that that doesn't necessarily demonstrate that the defendant saw his actions as those on the wrong side of the encounter.

3. James Holmes left the scene.  Fleeing the scene of a crime is generally seen as a sign that someone knows what they did there was wrong.  James, however, apparently only went outside behind the theater and then sat around there until he was arrested without incident.  The prosecution will probably try to claim that James' initial leaving of the theater was an attempt to escape responsibility, while the defense will say that the fact the he hung around the theater and didn't resist arrest means he wasn't really trying to escape responsibility.

 
2013-05-08 02:34:13 PM  

BigLuca: Fine, I'll do it
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2013-05-08 02:41:11 PM  
 
2013-05-08 02:58:43 PM  

Epiphany: Calling him Sideshow Bob to take away his fame, in a headline, then linking to an article that shows his name, is retarded. You want to do something about spreading his fame? Stop green-lighting links that talk about him for tens of thousands of people to see.


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