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2013-05-08 08:20:40 AM  
according to the story, he wasn't drunk or on drugs at the time, as determined by testing.


So he's just a farking idiot.
 
2013-05-08 08:25:33 AM  

Raharu: So he's just a farking idiot.


There's no way he really thought the girl was a skunk.  I wonder what really happened here.
 
2013-05-08 08:28:35 AM  

The Muthaship: Raharu: So he's just a farking idiot.

There's no way he really thought the girl was a skunk.  I wonder what really happened here.


I'd like to know too

However I think we all really know this never would have happened if the girl was armed too.

.www.lee.org
 
2013-05-08 08:33:47 AM  
 
2013-05-08 08:34:52 AM  
I know people who've gotten harsher punishments for possession.
 
2013-05-08 08:37:49 AM  
So watch yer ass, furries.
 
2013-05-08 08:46:19 AM  
Something about this story stinks to high heaven
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-05-08 08:47:27 AM  

Aarontology: I know people who've gotten harsher punishments for possession.


Well, yes, this guy was defending us from tyranny.  Those people are dangerous drug fiends.

Really though, aren't people who are careless with guns more dangerous or as dangerous as militia nuts?
 
2013-05-08 09:09:51 AM  

vpb: Aarontology: I know people who've gotten harsher punishments for possession.

Well, yes, this guy was defending us from tyranny.  Those people are dangerous drug fiends.

Really though, aren't people who are careless with guns more dangerous or as dangerous as militia nuts?


I'd say more dangerous. For the most part the militia nuts just do their little WOLVERINES cosplay thing out in the woods and don't bother anyone and are usually really goddamned responsible with their guns.
 
2013-05-08 09:17:50 AM  

Aarontology: I know people who've gotten harsher punishments for possession.


Possession of skunk, no less.
 
2013-05-08 09:32:49 AM  
What a farking idiot.  I mean...I...I...I'm at a loss for words...

The average skunk is about 8"-10" tall, whereas the average 9 year old girl is over 48" (4ft).

How is it even possible to mistake a woodland critter from a 4 foot tall child?

This man needs to never be around anything more pointy than a butter knife.
 
2013-05-08 09:45:01 AM  

nekom: Aarontology: I know people who've gotten harsher punishments for possession.

Possession of skunk, no less.


lol
 
2013-05-08 10:06:32 AM  

Endive Wombat: This man needs to never be around anything more pointy than a boiled egg.


FTFY
 
2013-05-08 10:06:57 AM  
If the father of the girl accidently caved this man's head in with something heavy I would hope he would get the same dealio.
 
2013-05-08 10:08:06 AM  

Raharu: according to the story, he wasn't drunk or on drugs at the time, as determined by testing.


So he's just a farking idiot.


Wrong: he was standing his ground.
 
2013-05-08 10:08:30 AM  
how rich was he?
 
2013-05-08 10:08:50 AM  

Endive Wombat: This man needs to never be around anything more pointy than a butter knife.


Still too pointy. Maybe a beach ball.
 
2013-05-08 10:09:18 AM  

Endive Wombat: What a farking idiot.  I mean...I...I...I'm at a loss for words...

The average skunk is about 8"-10" tall, whereas the average 9 year old girl is over 48" (4ft).

How is it even possible to mistake a woodland critter from a 4 foot tall child?

This man needs to never be around anything more pointy than a butter knife.


But she was actually IN A SKUNK COSTUME at the time. We all know how confusing that can be.

//But seriously, this is nothing but sad on so many levels.
 
2013-05-08 10:09:32 AM  
9 year old girl who was dressed as skunk at a Halloween party with his shotgun


Why did she have his shotgun? Is that why he shot her?
 
2013-05-08 10:09:32 AM  

Raharu: The Muthaship: Raharu: So he's just a farking idiot.

There's no way he really thought the girl was a skunk.  I wonder what really happened here.

I'd like to know too

However I think we all really know this never would have happened if the girl was armed too.

.[www.lee.org image 850x459]


Ironic.  You post a picture of an assault weapon while the man used a shot gun.. which politician was advocating for shotguns.... OH yeah.. Biden.
 
2013-05-08 10:09:54 AM  
Da-Fuq? they must have some mighty big-ass skunk in them parts.
 
2013-05-08 10:10:41 AM  
Like shooting a skunk with a shotgun is even a remotely good idea to begin with.
 
2013-05-08 10:11:42 AM  
responsible gun owner
 
2013-05-08 10:11:47 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
Inconsolable.
 
2013-05-08 10:12:12 AM  
LOL, sure why not? If you give your kid a gun and he murders his sister with it, you don't even get arrested.
 
2013-05-08 10:12:16 AM  
Maybe he thought the skunk was going to rape him?

/oui oui
 
2013-05-08 10:13:02 AM  

Endive Wombat: How is it even possible to mistake a woodland critter from a 4 foot tall child?


"The girl, whose name has not been released, was said to have been playing on a hillside when the home's owner, Janet Grant, mistook her for the noxious pest."

Playing on a hill, possibly crawling up or rolling down the slope. Perspective can be a biatch.
 
2013-05-08 10:13:24 AM  

Charlie Chingas: Maybe he thought the skunk was going to rape him?

/oui oui


She could rape me:
www.chelseasofnewyork.com
 
2013-05-08 10:14:00 AM  
Another little stinker:
www.chelseasofnewyork.com
 
2013-05-08 10:14:18 AM  
What the hell is going on these days?  No charges in the kid shooting his sister, no charges for 13 year old boy raping a 4 year old boy twice, no charges in shooting a nine year old girl?

Is it possible to just start a whole sale slaughter and rape fest of children?
 
2013-05-08 10:14:34 AM  
How come she wasn't dress like a WHORE like all the *other kids*?!?!?

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-08 10:15:05 AM  
Her costume must have been great. Hope she won first place.

Or he is a major leauge moron who thought she was a S.O.U.S
 
2013-05-08 10:15:13 AM  

NutWrench: Slightly better article here

http://abcnews.go.com/US/girl-halloween-costume-mistaken-skunk-shot- co usin/story?id=17536625 .


I guess she won the costume contest that night.

This article indicates that another adult was holding the flashlight on the girl/skunk, when he lit her up.
W
T
F?
 
2013-05-08 10:16:15 AM  
I'm confused now. Subby says she was dressed as a skunk with this guy's shotgun?  I don't know about you, but if I'm freaking out and see a skunk armed with a shotgun I might shoot too...
 
2013-05-08 10:16:50 AM  

rnatalie: Charlie Chingas: Maybe he thought the skunk was going to rape him?

/oui oui

She could rape me:
[www.chelseasofnewyork.com image 408x468]


I would explode all over that.
 
2013-05-08 10:17:04 AM  

NutWrench: Slightly better article here.


That article sounds more in line with reality. Sometimes the internet is like a game of telephone and you get stories that look like they should be in the Daily Fail. You keep paraphrasing an article and adding or deleting information until the Outrage-O-Meter is full and the Reality-O-Meter is close to Onion levels.

/which gives me an awesome idea for a website or two
 
2013-05-08 10:18:11 AM  

Endive Wombat: What a farking idiot.  I mean...I...I...I'm at a loss for words...

The average skunk is about 8"-10" tall, whereas the average 9 year old girl is over 48" (4ft).

How is it even possible to mistake a woodland critter from a 4 foot tall child?

This man needs to never be around anything more pointy than a butter knife.


Wasn't there, didn't see it, but if she was on all fours, outside of the house where it was dark, crawling around? You see black fur and a white stripe, crawling around, and have the shape obscured due to the lack of light and I'd bet you'd have a hard time telling.

If it was a girl running around on two legs in bright light, however, the guy's an idiot.
 
2013-05-08 10:18:19 AM  

pkellmey: Endive Wombat: What a farking idiot.  I mean...I...I...I'm at a loss for words...

The average skunk is about 8"-10" tall, whereas the average 9 year old girl is over 48" (4ft).

How is it even possible to mistake a woodland critter from a 4 foot tall child?

This man needs to never be around anything more pointy than a butter knife.

But she was actually IN A SKUNK COSTUME at the time. We all know how confusing that can be.

//But seriously, this is nothing but sad on so many levels.


If your first thought when you see a skunk is "i'mm'a SHOOT IT!!!" you need to never have a gun again.
 
2013-05-08 10:18:28 AM  

untaken_name: Inconsolable.


Came to ask if the shooter tooker to the Casbah
 
2013-05-08 10:19:45 AM  
Who shoots a skunk, particularly with a shotgun? That's just asking for trouble.
 
2013-05-08 10:20:29 AM  
A below average intelligence sociopath. He did it on a whim and thought he had an excuse.
 
2013-05-08 10:20:50 AM  

Raharu: according to the story, he wasn't drunk or on drugs at the time, as determined by testing.


So he's just a farking idiot.


No. He's a responsible idiot.
 
2013-05-08 10:22:58 AM  
Well that is going to make Thanksgiving or Christmas really awkward for that family.
 
2013-05-08 10:23:27 AM  

Bravo Two: Endive Wombat: What a farking idiot.  I mean...I...I...I'm at a loss for words...

The average skunk is about 8"-10" tall, whereas the average 9 year old girl is over 48" (4ft).

How is it even possible to mistake a woodland critter from a 4 foot tall child?

This man needs to never be around anything more pointy than a butter knife.

Wasn't there, didn't see it, but if she was on all fours, outside of the house where it was dark, crawling around? You see black fur and a white stripe, crawling around, and have the shape obscured due to the lack of light and I'd bet you'd have a hard time telling.

If it was a girl running around on two legs in bright light, however, the guy's an idiot.


Why would you fire a weapon at something 'obscured' by low light?
 
2013-05-08 10:24:20 AM  

evilboyevil: A below average intelligence sociopath. He did it on a whim and thought he had an excuse.


He evidently did have an excuse.
 
2013-05-08 10:25:09 AM  
Never invite the Cheneys to your Halloween parties.
 
2013-05-08 10:25:30 AM  
True story. Somewhat related. Around 25 years ago, a possum was hanging around my grandparents' house. Mostly threatening the cats and eating their food, but the fear of it giving the cats rabies was the big thing. One day after the sun set but there was still a little light outside, my grandfather looked out the door and saw what he thought was the possum laying on the ground beside the picnic table. He got his shotgun, open the door, and fired. It was a direct hit. Only it wasn't a possum after all.

Now, how did I hear this story? The next day I was sitting at the picnic table, looked down, and then asked my grandmother, "What happened to your shoe?"
 
2013-05-08 10:26:13 AM  
Why was she at a party with his shotgun?
 
2013-05-08 10:26:59 AM  

Ned Stark: Bravo Two: Endive Wombat: What a farking idiot.  I mean...I...I...I'm at a loss for words...

The average skunk is about 8"-10" tall, whereas the average 9 year old girl is over 48" (4ft).

How is it even possible to mistake a woodland critter from a 4 foot tall child?

This man needs to never be around anything more pointy than a butter knife.

Wasn't there, didn't see it, but if she was on all fours, outside of the house where it was dark, crawling around? You see black fur and a white stripe, crawling around, and have the shape obscured due to the lack of light and I'd bet you'd have a hard time telling.

If it was a girl running around on two legs in bright light, however, the guy's an idiot.

Why would you fire a weapon at something 'obscured' by low light?


Because freedom, commie
 
2013-05-08 10:27:20 AM  

Endive Wombat: The average skunk is about 8"-10" tall, whereas the average 9 year old girl is over 48" (4ft).

How is it even possible to mistake a woodland critter from a 4 foot tall child?


He probably saw that documentary on the science channel about the giant shark and octopus and figured it was one of them Megaskunks?
 
2013-05-08 10:28:54 AM  
Hey, sweetie, you know what'd be cute?  How about you run outside, get down on all fours, and pretend you're knocking his trashcans over.  Okay, now crouch down behind them, on the count of 3.

1

2

BOOM
 
2013-05-08 10:29:28 AM  
up-ship.com
It's coming right for us!
 
2013-05-08 10:29:56 AM  
People in Pennsylvania with guns shouldn't own cousins. Or something.

/Too bad he hasn't fled the state yet so someone could write "Beaver County rat weasels way out of skunk shooting, rabbits."
 
2013-05-08 10:30:48 AM  
When I learned to shoot, one of the very first rules of gun safety I was taught was that if you can not 100% positively identify the target, do not shoot.

"I thought..." is not an excuse for shooting at something you weren't able to positively identify.
 
2013-05-08 10:31:38 AM  
So, was it even skunk season?
 
2013-05-08 10:32:05 AM  
The girl, whose name has not been released, was said to have been playing on a hillside when the home's owner, Janet Grant, mistook her for the noxious pest.Police said Grant then asked her son, Thomas Grant, who police said was the victim's cousin, to shoot the pest.

According to the statement, Grant then retrieved a shotgun from the home. While his mother shined a flashlight at what they believed was a skunk, Thomas fired the gun, striking the still unidentified girl in the shoulder and abdomen.


Yeah, that makes a lot more sense.  Still a little retarded, but definitely makes more sense.
 
2013-05-08 10:35:26 AM  
I actually LOLed at the thought that "What if it had been a real skunk?"  Even if it had been a real skunk, this idiot thought it would be a good idea to splatter the critter with a bunch of kids around? Perforated stink bag +  traumatized kids = awesome?
 
2013-05-08 10:37:07 AM  
Thank god, man.

First they start dressing as skunks.  Then, they turn into tyranny, and tyranny needs to be shot with our Second Amendment.
 
2013-05-08 10:40:15 AM  
This shiat will just keep happening until this country gets serious about "responsible gun owners".
 
2013-05-08 10:42:51 AM  

evilboyevil: A below average intelligence sociopath. He did it on a whim and thought he had an excuse.


I don't know, I'm a lot more sympathetic after reading the more detailed article.  He wasn't the only one involved in shooting her.  She was playing on a hill in the distance (maybe even obscured by bushes?), not standing right in front of him.

I'm leaning towards blaming the kids parents on this one.  People in rural Pennsylvania shoot skunks all the time.  Otherwise they'd be overrun with them.  Letting your kid dress like one is irresponsible, especially if you're going to a party with family members (who you presumably know well enough) who are in the habit of shooting said skunks.

That said, the party host (the shooter's mother, and the one who told him to do the shooting) should be aware of what costumes her guests are wearing, and should have thought twice that the skunk-like animal in their backyard might actually be a human in a skunk costume.  That's either bad party etiquette on her part for not socializing with the guests, or on the girls parents' part for not checking in upon arrival.
 
2013-05-08 10:46:17 AM  

Aarontology: When I learned to shoot, one of the very first rules of gun safety I was taught was that if you can not 100% positively identify the target, do not shoot.

"I thought..." is not an excuse for shooting at something you weren't able to positively identify.


That's a very good point.  Especially if you know there are kids playing in the area.
 
2013-05-08 10:48:14 AM  

Ned Stark: Bravo Two: Endive Wombat: What a farking idiot.  I mean...I...I...I'm at a loss for words...

The average skunk is about 8"-10" tall, whereas the average 9 year old girl is over 48" (4ft).

How is it even possible to mistake a woodland critter from a 4 foot tall child?

This man needs to never be around anything more pointy than a butter knife.

Wasn't there, didn't see it, but if she was on all fours, outside of the house where it was dark, crawling around? You see black fur and a white stripe, crawling around, and have the shape obscured due to the lack of light and I'd bet you'd have a hard time telling.

If it was a girl running around on two legs in bright light, however, the guy's an idiot.

Why would you fire a weapon at something 'obscured' by low light?


Because you're an idiot? Didn't say it was smart, just said I can understand how it could happen.  Then again, hunting things like coyotes who are primarily nocturnal, you rely a lot on good night vision or moonlight and sometimes you don't get a perfectly clear view of your target.
 
2013-05-08 10:49:12 AM  

Bravo Two: Endive Wombat: What a farking idiot.  I mean...I...I...I'm at a loss for words...

The average skunk is about 8"-10" tall, whereas the average 9 year old girl is over 48" (4ft).

How is it even possible to mistake a woodland critter from a 4 foot tall child?

This man needs to never be around anything more pointy than a butter knife.

Wasn't there, didn't see it, but if she was on all fours, outside of the house where it was dark, crawling around? You see black fur and a white stripe, crawling around, and have the shape obscured due to the lack of light and I'd bet you'd have a hard time telling.

If it was a girl running around on two legs in bright light, however, the guy's an idiot.


Even if she was on all fours, that would still make her look like a HUGE farking skunk. Maybe the guy got freaked out by the size of the skunk overlord and shot it? Who knows.
 
2013-05-08 10:50:21 AM  

Raharu: according to the story, he wasn't drunk or on drugs at the time, as determined by testing.


So he's just a farking idiot.


Just another responsible gun owner TM exercising his second amendment rights.
 
2013-05-08 10:50:41 AM  
Talk about being stuck between a rock and a hard place; this dipsh*t either attempted to murder a child, or is just a colossal f*cking retard. There is no middle ground or other choice here.
 
2013-05-08 10:51:43 AM  

weapon13: Even if she was on all fours, that would still make her look like a HUGE farking skunk. Maybe the guy got freaked out by the size of the skunk overlord and shot it? Who knows.


Wouldn't be the first time. I've seen some monstrous farking raccoons, and the amount of damage they can do to your house and grounds (along with skunks who chew on things), they generally are fair game to get shot.

Likewise with porcupines. They tend to chew on wood siding on houses and tear things up quite a bit. See one, shoot one.
 
2013-05-08 10:52:49 AM  

weapon13: Even if she was on all fours, that would still make her look like a HUGE farking skunk. Maybe the guy got freaked out by the size of the skunk overlord and shot it? Who knows


I grew up largely in the sticks. Saw and dealt with plenty of skunks. Had access to a shotgun. Never once thought "I need to shoot this animal immediately".
 
2013-05-08 10:53:34 AM  

Bravo Two: Endive Wombat: What a farking idiot.  I mean...I...I...I'm at a loss for words...

The average skunk is about 8"-10" tall, whereas the average 9 year old girl is over 48" (4ft).

How is it even possible to mistake a woodland critter from a 4 foot tall child?

This man needs to never be around anything more pointy than a butter knife.

Wasn't there, didn't see it, but if she was on all fours, outside of the house where it was dark, crawling around? You see black fur and a white stripe, crawling around, and have the shape obscured due to the lack of light and I'd bet you'd have a hard time telling.


9/10
 
2013-05-08 10:53:39 AM  

Bravo Two: Ned Stark: Bravo Two: Endive Wombat: What a farking idiot.  I mean...I...I...I'm at a loss for words...

The average skunk is about 8"-10" tall, whereas the average 9 year old girl is over 48" (4ft).

How is it even possible to mistake a woodland critter from a 4 foot tall child?

This man needs to never be around anything more pointy than a butter knife.

Wasn't there, didn't see it, but if she was on all fours, outside of the house where it was dark, crawling around? You see black fur and a white stripe, crawling around, and have the shape obscured due to the lack of light and I'd bet you'd have a hard time telling.

If it was a girl running around on two legs in bright light, however, the guy's an idiot.

Why would you fire a weapon at something 'obscured' by low light?

Because you're an idiot? Didn't say it was smart, just said I can understand how it could happen.  Then again, hunting things like coyotes who are primarily nocturnal, you rely a lot on good night vision or moonlight and sometimes you don't get a perfectly clear view of your target.


"Shoot first and verify target afterwards" is the crux of the entire farking problem and is not something we want to encourage. "Oh, he thought his target was actually something else? That's ok then, no problem. Could happen to anyone!"
 
2013-05-08 10:56:23 AM  
Be a damn shame if the shooter accidentally got "peppered" ...Cheney style.
 
2013-05-08 10:58:15 AM  

NutWrench: Slightly better article here.


So you have a family bonfire at night with children who are running around playing, and you decide you need to shoot a skunk - off in the distance, at night when children are known to be running around playing?

I'm surprised this guy can brush his teeth without drowning himself.
 
2013-05-08 10:59:23 AM  

Bravo Two: Endive Wombat: What a farking idiot.  I mean...I...I...I'm at a loss for words...

The average skunk is about 8"-10" tall, whereas the average 9 year old girl is over 48" (4ft).

How is it even possible to mistake a woodland critter from a 4 foot tall child?

This man needs to never be around anything more pointy than a butter knife.

Wasn't there, didn't see it, but if she was on all fours, outside of the house where it was dark, crawling around? You see black fur and a white stripe, crawling around, and have the shape obscured due to the lack of light and I'd bet you'd have a hard time telling.

If it was a girl running around on two legs in bright light, however, the guy's an idiot.


But a 4 foot long skunk?  Perhaps 6 feet if we are including her cute little tale?  Add to that a party where you have drunken guests and children playing all over the property and the best idea you've got is to pop out your gun and just start shooting?  Come on!!!
 
2013-05-08 11:04:22 AM  

Shadowtag: People in Pennsylvania with guns shouldn't own cousins. Or something.

/Too bad he hasn't fled the state yet so someone could write "Beaver County rat weasels way out of skunk shooting, rabbits."


Dress like a skunk and you'll get shot. That's the Beaver County way.
 
2013-05-08 11:05:48 AM  
Are we sure it wasn't a 9 year old dachshund or housecat?  How the fark could you mix up a 4th grader and a 5 lb animal?
 
2013-05-08 11:06:34 AM  
Holy run on sentence headline, Batman!!!
 
2013-05-08 11:07:19 AM  

MyRandomName: Raharu: The Muthaship: Raharu: So he's just a farking idiot.

There's no way he really thought the girl was a skunk.  I wonder what really happened here.

I'd like to know too

However I think we all really know this never would have happened if the girl was armed too.

.[www.lee.org image 850x459]

Ironic.  You post a picture of an assault weapon while the man used a shot gun.. which politician was advocating for shotguns.... OH yeah.. Biden.


Congratulations, I don't think I've ever seen this impressive level of stupidity so densely populated in a single statement.
 
2013-05-08 11:13:59 AM  

Endive Wombat: But a 4 foot long skunk?  Perhaps 6 feet if we are including her cute little tale?  Add to that a party where you have drunken guests and children playing all over the property and the best idea you've got is to pop out your gun and just start shooting?  Come on!!!


I could see it- in some parts of the country at some parties they go shoot in the backyard for fun. Shooting a skunk wouldn't be out of line at all, especially if you know that it's been territorial or aggressive lately. Like others have said, skunks are about as bad as rabbits when it comes to reproduction- I don't even live in the country but smelling a dead skunk that's been hit by a car is at least a weekly occurrence.

The major problem here is that he shot at something without being able to 100% identify it, but skunks are nocturnal animals... so if you really want to hunt them it's going to have to be in the dusk or evening. This sounds a lot more like a tragic but avoidable accident (if anyone had exercised any common sense) rather than a moron being a moron with a gun.
 
2013-05-08 11:16:37 AM  

Fubini: Endive Wombat: But a 4 foot long skunk?  Perhaps 6 feet if we are including her cute little tale?  Add to that a party where you have drunken guests and children playing all over the property and the best idea you've got is to pop out your gun and just start shooting?  Come on!!!

I could see it- in some parts of the country at some parties they go shoot in the backyard for fun. Shooting a skunk wouldn't be out of line at all, especially if you know that it's been territorial or aggressive lately. Like others have said, skunks are about as bad as rabbits when it comes to reproduction- I don't even live in the country but smelling a dead skunk that's been hit by a car is at least a weekly occurrence.

The major problem here is that he shot at something without being able to 100% identify it, but skunks are nocturnal animals... so if you really want to hunt them it's going to have to be in the dusk or evening. This sounds a lot more like a tragic but avoidable accident (if anyone had exercised any common sense) rather than a moron being a moron with a gun.


This.  Again, don't condone what the guy did, just said I can understand how it happened.
 
2013-05-08 11:25:23 AM  

Raharu: The Muthaship: Raharu: So he's just a farking idiot.

There's no way he really thought the girl was a skunk.  I wonder what really happened here.

I'd like to know too

However I think we all really know this never would have happened if the girl was armed too.

.[www.lee.org image 850x459]


According to the headline she was, though it is unclear why a nine year old girl was in possession of the assailant's shotgun.
 
2013-05-08 11:25:33 AM  
Can he at least lose the right to own guns?
 
2013-05-08 11:26:07 AM  
Just because you've seen big racoons doesn't mean there are 4ft skunks in the world. People who live in suburbia are such pansies.  Get some perspective. This guy should lose his guns for life and his drivers license, he can't be trusted.
 
2013-05-08 11:27:30 AM  

Fubini: This sounds a lot more like a tragic but avoidable accident (if anyone had exercised any common sense) rather than a moron being a moron with a gun.


A lot of morons being morons with a gun end up causing tragic but avoidable accidents like this one.
 
2013-05-08 11:29:16 AM  
What was this jackass doing with a loaded gun at a Halloween party anyway?  Playing Elmer Fudd?
 
2013-05-08 11:30:40 AM  
Cheney shot his friend in the face and got an apology from his victim.

Its all outrageous so whine away
 
2013-05-08 11:32:54 AM  

dv-ous: pkellmey: Endive Wombat: What a farking idiot.  I mean...I...I...I'm at a loss for words...

The average skunk is about 8"-10" tall, whereas the average 9 year old girl is over 48" (4ft).

How is it even possible to mistake a woodland critter from a 4 foot tall child?

This man needs to never be around anything more pointy than a butter knife.

But she was actually IN A SKUNK COSTUME at the time. We all know how confusing that can be.

//But seriously, this is nothing but sad on so many levels.

If your first thought when you see a skunk is "i'mm'a SHOOT IT!!!" you need to never have a gun again.


This.  You don't need to prove your manliness by killing every wild animal that dares set foot on your property.  It was theirs first.
 
2013-05-08 11:34:06 AM  

Waxing_Chewbacca: Raharu: according to the story, he wasn't drunk or on drugs at the time, as determined by testing.


So he's just a farking idiot.

No. He's a responsible idiot.


Because responsible people shoot first and ask questions later, amirite?
 
2013-05-08 11:34:55 AM  

Kome: Fubini: This sounds a lot more like a tragic but avoidable accident (if anyone had exercised any common sense) rather than a moron being a moron with a gun.

A lot of morons being morons with a gun end up causing tragic but avoidable accidents like this one.


It's too bad that the "moron" characteristic doesn't preclude gun ownership.
 
2013-05-08 11:39:16 AM  

Kome: A lot of morons being morons with a gun end up causing tragic but avoidable accidents like this one.


The sad truth is that you can be 100% responsible with a gun and still end up with accidents. It's the same way you can be 100% responsible with a car and still end up with accidents. I'm not trying to excuse or condone what this guy did, but it's simply not true that literally every firearms accident is due to someone being irresponsible.

There are about 500 accidental deaths each year in the US, and off the top of my head I want to say the chance of fatality there is about 25%, so that implies something like 2000 firearms accidents total each year. Surely many of those are due to carelessness and improper handling. But, just as surely, some of those are from people behaving responsibly and are truly accidental.
 
2013-05-08 11:39:47 AM  

NutWrench: Slightly better article here.


Maybe the mom was drunk and shot the girl then realizing what she had done asked the son to take the blame being he was completely sober??? Otherwise this still makes no sense, even if shooting with just a flashlight you can tell the size and know that was no skunk!
 
2013-05-08 11:40:50 AM  

Fubini: This sounds a lot more like a tragic but avoidable accident (if anyone had exercised any common sense) rather than a moron being a moron with a gun.


I think you inadvertently laid one rose petal too many in this case. I grew up on a street with plenty of "let's shoot stuff in our backyard" types, and not a single one of them would have tolerated some lamebrain firing a shotgun, at night, in known proximity of children, unless a grizzly bear and the entire Red Army was in their midst.
 
2013-05-08 11:41:05 AM  
But he was a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN right up to the moment he wasn't!
 
2013-05-08 11:43:16 AM  

Endive Wombat: What a farking idiot.  I mean...I...I...I'm at a loss for words...

The average skunk is about 8"-10" tall, whereas the average 9 year old girl is over 48" (4ft).

How is it even possible to mistake a woodland critter from a 4 foot tall child?

This man needs to never be around anything more pointy than a butter knife.


He probably thought he was bagging a trophy skunk! Woulda looked great hung above his mantle!
 
2013-05-08 11:44:52 AM  
How many of you have been to Pennsylvania?  If you have, you'd understand perfectly.  Pennsylvania is the Deep South of the Northeast.
 
2013-05-08 11:47:19 AM  
*Looks at pic of shooter*

Wow, even some hilljacks can clean-up fairly well.
 
2013-05-08 11:47:43 AM  
I'm confused.  Usually the perp can get a lighter sentence by claiming it was the evil alcohols telling him what to do but this guy was stone cold sober so he doesn't get charged at all?
 
2013-05-08 11:49:11 AM  

Raharu: The Muthaship: Raharu: So he's just a farking idiot.

There's no way he really thought the girl was a skunk.  I wonder what really happened here.

I'd like to know too

However I think we all really know this never would have happened if the girl was armed too.

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Agreed.  Kidnappers don't fark with 9 year olds carrying AR-15s.
 
2013-05-08 11:50:03 AM  

Fissile: How many of you have been to Pennsylvania?  If you have, you'd understand perfectly.  Pennsylvania is the Deep South of the Northeast.


"Philadelphia at one end, Pittsburgh at the other, and Alabama in the middle" as they say.
 
2013-05-08 11:51:03 AM  
From today's headlines -  The number of gun killings dropped 39% between 1993 and 2011, the Bureau of Justice Statistics reported in a separate report released Tuesday. Gun crimes that weren't fatal fell by 69%.

Proving Thomas Grant is an aberration.
(Daddy should have a private chance to beat on his ass for an uninterrupted hour, though)
 
2013-05-08 11:51:12 AM  
Damn they must grown them (skunks) big there.
 
2013-05-08 11:51:19 AM  

Fubini: The major problem here is that he shot at something without being able to 100% identify it, but skunks are nocturnal animals... so if you really want to hunt them it's going to have to be in the dusk or evening. This sounds a lot more like a tragic but avoidable accident (if anyone had exercised any common sense) rather than a moron being a moron with a gun.


Shooting at something you can't 100% identify is a moron being a moron with a gun unless you're in a farking warzone laying down cover fire.
 
2013-05-08 11:51:41 AM  
It still made a great CSI episode..

4.bp.blogspot.com

/Fur and Loathing in Las Vegas baby...
 
2013-05-08 11:51:46 AM  

ChipNASA: How come she wasn't dress like a WHORE like all the *other kids*?!?!?

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I think she's lucky she wasn't dressed like that.
 
2013-05-08 12:07:32 PM  

The Muthaship


There's no way he really thought the girl was a skunk. I wonder what really happened here.


Maybe she sprayed him.
 
2013-05-08 12:10:06 PM  

Ned Stark: Bravo Two: Endive Wombat: What a farking idiot.  I mean...I...I...I'm at a loss for words...

The average skunk is about 8"-10" tall, whereas the average 9 year old girl is over 48" (4ft).

How is it even possible to mistake a woodland critter from a 4 foot tall child?

This man needs to never be around anything more pointy than a butter knife.

Wasn't there, didn't see it, but if she was on all fours, outside of the house where it was dark, crawling around? You see black fur and a white stripe, crawling around, and have the shape obscured due to the lack of light and I'd bet you'd have a hard time telling.

If it was a girl running around on two legs in bright light, however, the guy's an idiot.

Why would you fire a weapon at something 'obscured' by low light?


This.  Why the fark would you even consider shooting into the dark.  Gun nuts will white knight any idiot that has a gun.
 
2013-05-08 12:12:05 PM  
Well, that stinks.
 
2013-05-08 12:15:43 PM  
Okay--- People are getting confused here. Let me clear this up.

She wasn't dressed as a skunk.

She was playing outside at a distance from the house, on a hillside. It was dark outside and she was wearing a black costume with a black hat that had a white feather on it.

Her body blended into the darkness. What the guy's family saw was a white tuft of fur (feather, actually) surrounded by black (the hat). The guy was told by his mother to go get his gun and shoot the skunk. He did so without getting near. His mother shined a flashlight at the "skunk" (the hat with feather) and he fired. He actually missed the "skunk" (her HEAD) and hit her lower down.

So no-- He didn't mistake a small child in a skunk costume for a skunk. He mistook a PART of a black and white costume being worn in the dark for a skunk, as did his mother.

Now, the stupid thing is that people who keep guns around the house feel the need to shoot every critter that wanders near their house. A skunk foraging on a hill near your house isn't a threat. You don't need to shoot it with a shotgun.

I should hope this incident teaches them to hold off on shooting at animals in the dark for shiats and giggles.
 
2013-05-08 12:16:49 PM  

Paul Baumer: Fissile: How many of you have been to Pennsylvania?  If you have, you'd understand perfectly.  Pennsylvania is the Deep South of the Northeast.

"Philadelphia at one end, Pittsburgh at the other, and Alabama in the middle" as they say.


==============

Pennsylvania was founded when all the worst morons from the colonies of New York and New Jersey were forced across the Delaware at gunpoint and told to never come back.
 
2013-05-08 12:20:16 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Now, the stupid thing is that people who keep guns around the house feel the need to shoot every critter that wanders near their house. A skunk foraging on a hill near your house isn't a threat. You don't need to shoot it with a shotgun.


But doing so is his 2nd Amendment right. Even if it happens to be a little girl.
 
2013-05-08 12:20:30 PM  
Pennsyltucky.
 
2013-05-08 12:21:30 PM  

Kome: Fubini: This sounds a lot more like a tragic but avoidable accident (if anyone had exercised any common sense) rather than a moron being a moron with a gun.

A lot of morons being morons with a gun end up causing tragic but avoidable accidents like this one.


How is this an accident? He hit his target deliberately.


People use the word 'accident' entirely properly. This is wreckless negligence. Entirely foreseeable and preventable. There are relatively few accidents in this world.
 
2013-05-08 12:22:43 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Okay--- People are getting confused here. Let me clear this up.

She wasn't dressed as a skunk.

She was playing outside at a distance from the house, on a hillside. It was dark outside and she was wearing a black costume with a black hat that had a white feather on it.

Her body blended into the darkness. What the guy's family saw was a white tuft of fur (feather, actually) surrounded by black (the hat). The guy was told by his mother to go get his gun and shoot the skunk. He did so without getting near. His mother shined a flashlight at the "skunk" (the hat with feather) and he fired. He actually missed the "skunk" (her HEAD) and hit her lower down.

So no-- He didn't mistake a small child in a skunk costume for a skunk. He mistook a PART of a black and white costume being worn in the dark for a skunk, as did his mother.

Now, the stupid thing is that people who keep guns around the house feel the need to shoot every critter that wanders near their house. A skunk foraging on a hill near your house isn't a threat. You don't need to shoot it with a shotgun.

I should hope this incident teaches them to hold off on shooting at animals in the dark for shiats and giggles.


So what you're saying is he's a responsible gun owner.
 
2013-05-08 12:29:22 PM  

Raharu: according to the story, he wasn't drunk or on drugs at the time, as determined by testing.


So he's just a farking idiot.


Could be. There are however a great many medical issues that can cause people to hallucinate.
 
2013-05-08 12:29:54 PM  

Killer Cars: Talk about being stuck between a rock and a hard place; this dipsh*t either attempted to murder a child, or is just a colossal f*cking retard. There is no middle ground or other choice here.


Yeah, it is bad when you have to fall back on the Reagan Defense "I wasn't been evil/criminal, I was just horrendously incompetent and careless"
 
2013-05-08 12:41:26 PM  
Something smells very  fishy skunky.
 
2013-05-08 12:43:20 PM  
That guy is too stupid to ever touch a firearm.  Ever.
 
2013-05-08 12:50:28 PM  

Fubini: Kome: A lot of morons being morons with a gun end up causing tragic but avoidable accidents like this one.

The sad truth is that you can be 100% responsible with a gun and still end up with accidents. It's the same way you can be 100% responsible with a car and still end up with accidents. I'm not trying to excuse or condone what this guy did, but it's simply not true that literally every firearms accident is due to someone being irresponsible.

There are about 500 accidental deaths each year in the US, and off the top of my head I want to say the chance of fatality there is about 25%, so that implies something like 2000 firearms accidents total each year. Surely many of those are due to carelessness and improper handling. But, just as surely, some of those are from people behaving responsibly and are truly accidental.


that's why I wouldn't call this an accident.

yes, you can do everything right and still have an accident.

this guy got his firearm, knew it was loaded, aimed at his target, pulled the trigger, and shot what he was aiming at. how is that an accident?

oh, he didn't know he was aiming at a girl. so if I set fire to my neighbors' house, I can say the loss of any stuff in the house is an accident? hey, I don't know what stuff my neighbors have in their house.

or maybe it's reasonable to expect if I set fire to a house, stuff inside that house will also burn, and it doesn't matter what I know about that stuff.

he knew he was shooting something, and knew he hadn't made an effort to find out what he was shooting. so how is this an"accident"?

/gun owner

//no patience for people who go around shooting without thinking
 
2013-05-08 12:56:06 PM  
Was she wearing a hoodie?
 
2013-05-08 01:02:29 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: This. You don't need to prove your manliness by killing every wild animal that dares set foot on your property. It was theirs first.


Except that like porcupines and assorted other rodents, skunks are damaging to homes by chewing up and digging their way in. They are pests to be exterminated. Not a matter of proving my manliness, a matter of killing animals that will attack and/or destroy your home.
 
2013-05-08 01:12:59 PM  
I almost shot my kid cousin.  CSB follows:

My brother and I needed to sight in our deer rifles in preparation for the upcoming season.  We were all on the family hunting property and a whole bunch of relatives, young and old, were at The only campsite. Everyone was present and accounted.  We silenced all the chit-chatter and told EVERYONE that we were going about 1/4 mile down the road and specifically why.  On the pass, opposite of the campsite is a big hill about 75 yards from the road that's perfect and safe for target shooting.  After driving 1/4 mile, my brother and I turned the car to the right and parked about 20 yards off the road, set up targets, and started shooting by laying rifles on and leaning over the passenger-side hood of the car. At no point were we pointing our rifles anywhere within 240 degrees swing of the direction of camp nor over any road or path.  Safety First.

Now one of our cousins there must have life-threatening levels of ADHD or his parents haven't instilled in him the discipline he so desperately needs because throughout the weekend he had been doing a very bad job of obeying us adults, including his parents.  And they had bought him one of those mini dirt bikes and he had been tearing around all weekend.  We explicitly told all the children they ABSOLUTELY COULD NOT leave camp and go down the road until we returned.  So what did the kid do? He got on his bike and started heading straight towards us.  His useless parents hollered at him not to go down the road, he pretended he couldn't hear them, and continued anyways.

For several minutes we've been firing our rifles at targets at the hill's base.  Ww were also wearing powerful (35 dB) earmuffs so we could barely hear anything.  Left eye is closed and the right eye is tucked in front of the scope, so field of vision is very limited. Through sheer luck, my brother hears the kid's dirt bike as he comes up behind us.  My brother screamed as loud as he could, "STOP GODDAMNIT STOP!!!"  I take my finger off the trigger and open my left eye just as the kid passes on the rear side of the car, turns off the road, and rides left-to-right into the active firing range right in front of us. I see his motocross helmet's graphics flash and stop in my right eye optic as I start to lift up the rifle.  Ear muffs are off now, rifles are pointing up, and the kid yells, "HAI GUYZ! What's goin' on here?!"  My brother screams a vile stream of obscenities at the kid.  I stand there unable to speak as the gravity of the situation starts to sink in.  He leaves by turning around and riding BACK across the firing range a second time.  Shooting is over.  We go back and tell his parents how close their dipshiat of a son was to having his head blown off.  Later, he received styles of discipline from three generations.
 
2013-05-08 01:14:39 PM  
Hmm.  Good solid effort...but, sorry...still no Pennsyltucky tag.  Keep at it, though.
 
2013-05-08 01:32:14 PM  
FTFA: Making the accidental shooting even more unbelievable is the fact that toxicology test results revealed that Grant had no drugs or alcohol in his system.

Which means... he's just plain stupid.
 
2013-05-08 01:50:43 PM  

Bravo Two: The My Little Pony Killer: This. You don't need to prove your manliness by killing every wild animal that dares set foot on your property. It was theirs first.

Except that like porcupines and assorted other rodents, skunks are damaging to homes by chewing up and digging their way in. They are pests to be exterminated. Not a matter of proving my manliness, a matter of killing animals that will attack and/or destroy your home.


Where do you live where rodents are putting your home under siege?
 
2013-05-08 01:52:20 PM  
There is no justice in this country.  Murders a little girl with a firearm and gets 2 years probation.  Completely disgusting all the way around.

/on the plus side, it's obvious the judge is not being bribed by the for profit prison system.
 
2013-05-08 02:26:56 PM  

chuggernaught: There is no justice in this country.  Murders a little girl with a firearm and gets 2 years probation.  Completely disgusting all the way around.


RTA. The little girl is alive. Not murder.
 
2013-05-08 02:36:51 PM  

chuggernaught: There is no justice in this country.  Murders a little girl with a firearm and gets 2 years probation.  Completely disgusting all the way around.


I can see you didn't read the article or the thread - the girl ended up in the hospital, not the morgue.  Not seeing any word on how permanent any injuries will be, but given that it mentions birdshot, a full recovery, though with extensive scarring, is probable.  Even the scarring should be fixable with modern plastic surgery.

Headso: Where do you live where rodents are putting your home under siege?


That's possible pretty much anywhere down south, especially in cheaper constructions where water levels preclude a basement.  Better homes will have concrete or brick down there instead of siding for that reason.
 
2013-05-08 02:37:29 PM  
Article says he can't hunt for a year.

To me this seems inadequate punishment.
 
2013-05-08 02:44:28 PM  
Was she also run over by a truck?
sharetv.org
 
2013-05-08 02:49:51 PM  
Civil suit?
 
2013-05-08 03:47:30 PM  

Firethorn: chuggernaught: There is no justice in this country.  Murders a little girl with a firearm and gets 2 years probation.  Completely disgusting all the way around.

I can see you didn't read the article or the thread - the girl ended up in the hospital, not the morgue.  Not seeing any word on how permanent any injuries will be, but given that it mentions birdshot, a full recovery, though with extensive scarring, is probable.  Even the scarring should be fixable with modern plastic surgery.


The way people comment in these threads, can you blame them?   I know reading the article first would solve 90% of the comment drama in Fark, but then this would become a dull, boring existence, like Slashdot.  So in their defense, I hope they continue never reading articles and shooting from the hip first.  It's really the only reason why I continue to come here after 10 years.
 
2013-05-08 04:00:30 PM  
Shoot HIM.
 
2013-05-08 04:11:12 PM  
shoot him and say that he looked like a child molester.  and that your a white supremacist
 
2013-05-08 04:28:44 PM  

Killer Cars: weapon13: Even if she was on all fours, that would still make her look like a HUGE farking skunk. Maybe the guy got freaked out by the size of the skunk overlord and shot it? Who knows

I grew up largely in the sticks. Saw and dealt with plenty of skunks. Had access to a shotgun. Never once thought "I need to shoot this animal immediately".


Maybe they have stand your ground laws for vermin and rodents of unusual size.
 
2013-05-08 04:51:44 PM  
Oh my! Pepe Lepew would be ashamed.
 
2013-05-08 05:33:51 PM  

fredklein: Endive Wombat: How is it even possible to mistake a woodland critter from a 4 foot tall child?

"The girl, whose name has not been released, was said to have been playing on a hillside when the home's owner, Janet Grant, mistook her for the noxious pest."

Playing on a hill, possibly crawling up or rolling down the slope. Perspective can be a biatch.


Screw perspective, the real story is that TWO idiots mistook her for a skunk. "honey, is that a giant skunk frolicking in our yard?"

"I've never seen a four foot tall bipedal skunk, dear, but lets shoot it, just in case."
 
2013-05-08 05:36:41 PM  

MadMonk: What the hell is going on these days?  No charges in the kid shooting his sister, no charges for 13 year old boy raping a 4 year old boy twice, no charges in shooting a nine year old girl?

Is it possible to just start a whole sale slaughter and rape fest of children?


Until your second example I was blissfully unaware of that incident. That's farked up. Minor or not, that deserves serious punishment.
 
2013-05-08 05:49:36 PM  

Mellotiger: Screw perspective, the real story is that TWO idiots mistook her for a skunk. "honey, is that a giant skunk frolicking in our yard?"

"I've never seen a four foot tall bipedal skunk, dear, but lets shoot it, just in case."


::sigh::

If you're not going to RTFA, at least RTFPosts.

ZeroCorpse [TotalFark] 2013-05-08 12:15:43 PM

Okay--- People are getting confused here. Let me clear this up.

She wasn't dressed as a skunk.

She was playing outside at a distance from the house, on a hillside. It was dark outside and she was wearing a black costume with a black hat that had a white feather on it.

Her body blended into the darkness. What the guy's family saw was a white tuft of fur (feather, actually) surrounded by black (the hat). The guy was told by his mother to go get his gun and shoot the skunk. He did so without getting near. His mother shined a flashlight at the "skunk" (the hat with feather) and he fired. He actually missed the "skunk" (her HEAD) and hit her lower down.

So no-- He didn't mistake a small child in a skunk costume for a skunk. He mistook a PART of a black and white costume being worn in the dark for a skunk, as did his mother.
 
2013-05-08 05:59:52 PM  

fredklein: So no-- He didn't mistake a small child in a skunk costume for a skunk. He mistook a PART of a black and white costume being worn in the dark for a skunk, as did his mother.


Oh, well then. What's the big deal?
 
2013-05-08 06:26:56 PM  

fredklein: Mellotiger: Screw perspective, the real story is that TWO idiots mistook her for a skunk. "honey, is that a giant skunk frolicking in our yard?"

"I've never seen a four foot tall bipedal skunk, dear, but lets shoot it, just in case."

::sigh::

If you're not going to RTFA, at least RTFPosts.

ZeroCorpse [TotalFark] 2013-05-08 12:15:43 PM

Okay--- People are getting confused here. Let me clear this up.

She wasn't dressed as a skunk.

She was playing outside at a distance from the house, on a hillside. It was dark outside and she was wearing a black costume with a black hat that had a white feather on it.

Her body blended into the darkness. What the guy's family saw was a white tuft of fur (feather, actually) surrounded by black (the hat). The guy was told by his mother to go get his gun and shoot the skunk. He did so without getting near. His mother shined a flashlight at the "skunk" (the hat with feather) and he fired. He actually missed the "skunk" (her HEAD) and hit her lower down.

So no-- He didn't mistake a small child in a skunk costume for a skunk. He mistook a PART of a black and white costume being worn in the dark for a skunk, as did his mother.


Oh well thanks for clearing up my egregious error, you know, the error based on reading the linked article with " after confusing her skunk costume for a real skunk." right there in the first paragraph. Tell me again why you think I didn't read the farking article? I know, your point is valid, but if I only read the linked article, how would I know things NOT EXPRESSED IN IT?

:: sigh::
If you're not going to read the article, don't accuse me of doing the same.
 
2013-05-08 06:35:16 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Article says he can't hunt for a year.

To me this seems inadequate punishment.


Not to mention it doesn't really make sense. Accidentally shoot a child = no hunting for a year is something akin to "run over a pedestrian = no entering races for a year." It's punishment, but it doesn't fit the crime at all.
 
2013-05-08 06:37:34 PM  
I wonder if he's a sex offender who was trying to silence his victim.
 
2013-05-08 06:43:13 PM  
WTF?  If you drink 2 or 3 beers and get pulled over driving home, you'll get a DWI with 2 years probation, a several thousand dollar fine, and forced to attend some "alcohol is bad and you're a horrible person" classes.  Even if you aren't involved in any kind of wreck.

This asshole shot a child, and he gets a lesser punishment.
 
2013-05-08 06:52:46 PM  
She dressed skunky. Who would not shoot that?
 
2013-05-08 07:05:17 PM  

Mellotiger: Oh well thanks for clearing up my egregious error, you know, the error based on reading the linked article with " after confusing her skunk costume for a real skunk." right there in the first paragraph. Tell me again why you think I didn't read the farking article? I know, your point is valid, but if I only read the linked article, how would I know things NOT EXPRESSED IN IT?.



4th post in this thread:

NutWrench [TotalFark] 2013-05-08 08:33:47 AM

Slightly better article here.

If you're going to comment on something, it pays to not just read one single article.
 
2013-05-08 07:40:34 PM  

fredklein: Mellotiger: Oh well thanks for clearing up my egregious error, you know, the error based on reading the linked article with " after confusing her skunk costume for a real skunk." right there in the first paragraph. Tell me again why you think I didn't read the farking article? I know, your point is valid, but if I only read the linked article, how would I know things NOT EXPRESSED IN IT?.


4th post in this thread:

NutWrench [TotalFark] 2013-05-08 08:33:47 AM

Slightly better article here.
If you're going to comment on something, it pays to not just read one single article.


It does indeed pay, but not so much that I'm willing to research every article in case the reporting is sloppy. So I'll just go with what I'm presented unless it's actually interesting enough to follow links. In the future when you chastise me over whatever perceived error, it would probably go much better if you don't make a faulty assumption at the very beginning of the comment.
 
2013-05-08 09:41:14 PM  
Well.

She should have armed herself before masquerading as a skunk on an American's property.
 
2013-05-08 10:48:11 PM  
how awful.

he could tell the difference, he's just a murdering asswipe
 
2013-05-08 11:22:10 PM  

davynelson: how awful.

he could tell the difference, he's just a murdering asswipe


Who'd he kill?
 
2013-05-09 03:15:09 AM  

bdub77: Like shooting a skunk with a shotgun is even a remotely good idea to begin with.


Is there a good way to shoot a skunk?

I've heard a headshot keeps them from spraying, but I've also heard it happens anyway when their muscles relax.
 
2013-05-09 04:23:36 AM  
I'd  rather have him working and paying restitution to his victim than just being a burden on taxpayers.  Have to assume he was evaluated before sentencing and deemed a low risk to society.  Punishment alone is not enough reason to jail him.
 
2013-05-09 08:17:56 AM  

Mellotiger: It does indeed pay, but not so much that I'm willing to research every article in case the reporting is sloppy


So, you admit you didn't read the article posted in the 4th post. The "better article" (ie: with more details).

So I'll just go with what I'm presented unless it's actually interesting enough to follow links

If it's interesting enough to post about, I'd think it's interesting enough to click a link. But that's just me, looking for actual facts. You prefer to 'go with what you're presented'.

In the future when you chastise me over whatever perceived error, it would probably go much better if you don't make a faulty assumption at the very beginning of the comment.

It wasn't faulty- you DIDN'T read the article.
 
2013-05-09 08:49:35 AM  

fredklein: Mellotiger: It does indeed pay, but not so much that I'm willing to research every article in case the reporting is sloppy

So, you admit you didn't read the article posted in the 4th post. The "better article" (ie: with more details).

So I'll just go with what I'm presented unless it's actually interesting enough to follow links

If it's interesting enough to post about, I'd think it's interesting enough to click a link. But that's just me, looking for actual facts. You prefer to 'go with what you're presented'.

In the future when you chastise me over whatever perceived error, it would probably go much better if you don't make a faulty assumption at the very beginning of the comment.

It wasn't faulty- you DIDN'T read the article.


The first sentence you write in your response to me started "if you are not going to rtfa...", correct? In this case, tfa is the article the link posted on fark went to, right? Because that's the article this commentsection is associated with, is it not? You did not say "if your not going to rtfa that is not the linked article but the one linked in a comment four posts in..." Now did you? No, you didn't. You implied I didn't read the article, yet I did. If you meant some other article, you should have specified, and then you wouldn't look like such a tool. it's not my fault you either a: can't express concepts clearly, or b: got called out for your incorrect assumption and are trying to save face. Now for my part: yes, I admit I did not read the more detailed article that the comment linked to. As a result, I made a snarky comment based on bad reporting. I don't mind this happening, I'm known to make mistakes. I can own mine, you should own yours.
 
2013-05-09 09:11:37 AM  

fredklein: Mellotiger: It does indeed pay, but not so much that I'm willing to research every article in case the reporting is sloppy

So, you admit you didn't read the article posted in the 4th post. The "better article" (ie: with more details).

So I'll just go with what I'm presented unless it's actually interesting enough to follow links

If it's interesting enough to post about, I'd think it's interesting enough to click a link. But that's just me, looking for actual facts. You prefer to 'go with what you're presented'.

In the future when you chastise me over whatever perceived error, it would probably go much better if you don't make a faulty assumption at the very beginning of the comment.

It wasn't faulty- you DIDN'T read the article.


On a side note, you can go fark yourself for implying I don't care about facts. I said the article wasn't interesting enough to follow links (you know, get the"actual facts"behind it), I didn't say that I didn't care about those facts. I'm not denying any facts that don't fit my narrative or anything, just saying I want interested enough to research it. For someone hung up on facts, you waste a lot of time with assumptions and inferences.
 
2013-05-09 09:34:41 AM  
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2013-05-09 01:47:47 PM  

Mellotiger: The first sentence you write in your response to me started "if you are not going to rtfa...", correct? In this case, tfa is the article the link posted on fark went to, right?


I never specified which FA you didn't R. With a choice between one with few/no details, and a "better article" with more details... well, I'll let you think about that.

If you meant some other article, you should have specified, and then you wouldn't look like such a tool.

I'll apologize then. I'm SORRY you don't bother to research (to the total effort of clicking one link, displayed near the top of the thread) the topic you are posting about.

As a result, I made a snarky comment based on bad reporting.

No, you made a snarky comment based on lack of knowledge because you 'go with what you're spoonfedpresented'.

Whatever.
 
2013-05-09 02:03:46 PM  

fredklein: I never specified which FA you didn't R.


Pathetic.
 
2013-05-09 02:12:14 PM  

fredklein: Mellotiger: The first sentence you write in your response to me started "if you are not going to rtfa...", correct? In this case, tfa is the article the link posted on fark went to, right?

I never specified which FA you didn't R. With a choice between one with few/no details, and a "better article" with more details... well, I'll let you think about that.

If you meant some other article, you should have specified, and then you wouldn't look like such a tool.

I'll apologize then. I'm SORRY you don't bother to research (to the total effort of clicking one link, displayed near the top of the thread) the topic you are posting about.

As a result, I made a snarky comment based on bad reporting.

No, you made a snarky comment based on lack of knowledge because you 'go with what you're spoonfedpresented'.

Whatever.


You not specifying what article, and that article not being the linked article, is what is making you look like a fool. You had a chance to admit you screwed up, I even admitted my mistake first, and you still are trying to "win" for some reason. it's not working.
 
2013-05-09 05:13:28 PM  

fredklein: So, you admit you didn't read the article posted in the 4th post. The "better article" (ie: with more details).


You're a farking idiot if you think that every person who comments on a fark article is going to attempt to read every other article posted to the net on that same subject.

The fact that you keep pushing and pushing makes me want to say "fark off and die, troll".  So you win, I guess, because it's clear you don't want to talk about the story, you just want to troll about how everyone didn't read some other article.

Fark off and die, troll.
 
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