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(NPR)   Were you entertained by that video clip yesterday of Charles Ramsey? Congratulations, you're a condescending racist   (npr.org) divider line 98
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2013-05-08 09:31:55 AM  
So when will Obama use this man as a prop? That would be racist.
 
2013-05-08 09:34:05 AM  

Summa cum loudly: Firemen, policemen, soldiers and pediatric brain surgeons are heroes.


But are they?

They're doing the job they signed up to do. They knew what it entailed when they started. While what a pediatric brain surgeon does, for example, takes an enormous amount of training and experience, it's still what he or she set out to do on a daily basis. That's being a good person. Being a hero, in my mind, requires going above and beyond one's normal life. Carnegie medals are not given to brain surgeons, even if those brain surgeons save lives daily; they're given to ordinary people who do the extraordinary.

So on that basis, Charles Ramsey is a hero. He could have done what numerous other people, in numerous other situations like this, have done over and over again for years: told themselves "it's not my problem" or "someone else will do something" or even "the bad guy might hurt me." He didn't. He acted. He was an ordinary person who did something that most ordinary people, history sadly tells us, would not do.
 
2013-05-08 09:35:50 AM  

jdoncbus2: The original article linked tells me how I should think and here her is another:  http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/05/07/charles_ramsey_amanda_ b erry_rescuer_becomes_internet_meme_video.html


You think these articles are telling you how to think? Do you have a solid understanding of what opinion is?
 
2013-05-08 09:39:10 AM  
Does it count if I assumed people were laughing AT him, but after people's reaction today, I went back and watched it, and it's pretty obvious he's trying to entertain.  He's enjoying the heck out of being himself, and telling the story like he was telling it to his buddies over a beer, and it's a great story that he tells in a great way.

So I may not be racist, but I assumed other people probably were.
 
2013-05-08 09:40:37 AM  
Headso/You must have been a real hit at parties

...uh yeah, thank you!

content.internetvideoarchive.com
 
2013-05-08 09:41:15 AM  
My wife is black (I'm white).  She laughed at the video harder than I did.
 
2013-05-08 09:45:49 AM  
HotWingConspiracy/You think these articles are telling you how to think? Do you have a solid understanding of what opinion is?

So, opinions are never meant to influence perception or tell people how they should react? Aren't Op-Ed pieces typically written by people who feel so passionate about a subject that they need to share it and make the readers reflect on their beliefs? Aren't they suppose to generate a reaction and dialogue?
 
2013-05-08 09:49:27 AM  
bullshiat. the guy tells a good story, nothing more.
 
2013-05-08 09:51:44 AM  
When NPR gives a crap about everyone being made fun of, then this will actually be interesting.  Until then, it is more pandering for a third term of O and NEA donations from internet sales tax.

/why yes there was a bit of derp in there just like NPR
 
2013-05-08 09:57:25 AM  

Headso: But race and class seemed to be central to the celebrity of all these people.

Not true douche, just a few months ago it was that white hippy dude Kai. It was almost the exact same scenario guy does something heroic but is actually a bit eccentric and is funny on camera when telling the story.


He was also shiatballs crazy.
 
2013-05-08 10:19:03 AM  
They were poor. They were black. Their hair was kind of a mess. And they were unashamed. That's still weird and chuckle-worthy.

No, no it wasn't.

Garaba: Seriously

I can tell you what exactly went through my head when listening to him.

Hes a hero so I am going to listen to what he has to say
Hes a good story teller
Hes really funny


This.

Seriously, fark off, NPR. Not everything is an ACLU worthy crime against minorities. There were exactly two things going through my mind after watching that interview. First, I wanted to give that man a hug, because he is farking awesome. And second, I want to buy him a beer.
 
2013-05-08 10:27:01 AM  

Summa cum loudly: Jeeez....get real people. Firemen, policemen, soldiers and pediatric brain surgeons are heroes. I am not taking anything away from this dude, he seems cool and he helped the girl and all....but that is what practically ANY human being would have done in the same circumstances. Maybe rather then talking about segregation and racial issues we ought to talk about why just doing what you are supposed to do, like answer screams for help, is regarded by our culture as being heroic.


No, the white boy who wrote this article would have rolled up his car window and floored it. When he was safely in his comfortable home, he may have called the police after some prompting from his Twitter followers. But maybe not, if he couldn't remember the address.
 
2013-05-08 10:29:07 AM  

Worldwalker: Summa cum loudly: Firemen, policemen, soldiers and pediatric brain surgeons are heroes.

But are they?


Yes. They are...exactly because they signed up to do things you or I can't or won't do.

So on that basis, Charles Ramsey is a hero. He could have done what numerous other people, in numerous other situations like this, have done over and over again for years: told themselves "it's not my problem" or "someone else will do something" or even "the bad guy might hurt me." He didn't. He acted. He was an ordinary person who did something that most ordinary people, history sadly tells us, would not do.

Sorry, I disagree. Doing what you are supposed to do does not make you a hero unless you live in a society that is so depraved that doing nothing is the norm. Oh, wait a minute......
 
2013-05-08 10:42:36 AM  

jdoncbus2: HotWingConspiracy/You think these articles are telling you how to think? Do you have a solid understanding of what opinion is?

So, opinions are never meant to influence perception or tell people how they should react? Aren't Op-Ed pieces typically written by people who feel so passionate about a subject that they need to share it and make the readers reflect on their beliefs? Aren't they suppose to generate a reaction and dialogue?


That's not telling you how to think. If you're so susceptible to suggestion, stop reading.
 
2013-05-08 10:43:59 AM  
this sh*t is bullsh*t.


I get the feeling if he didn't get any recognition or fame on the internet NPR would still write a story about how the internet did react correctly because he is black.
 
2013-05-08 10:44:40 AM  
did = did not

/sheeeeeeesh
 
2013-05-08 10:47:35 AM  

ghiabug99: He's not the fringe of society that the internet laughs at because they are incredibly odd or a walking stereotype.

This guy has great comedic timing, hilarious choice of words fantastic interaction with the reporter/crowd.  This guy is a comedian.  He just so happens to live where he lives and looks like he looks.

The difference between him and other blacksploitation youtube videos is that almost anyone watching it would say "I wish I could do an interview like that and be that funny."  as opposed to "I wouldn't want to do that and be laughed at."


This.

"When a pretty, young white girl runs into the arms of a black man, you know there's a problem" was said with perfect comic timing.
 
2013-05-08 10:50:57 AM  
I think the central issue, if one exists at all, is classism, as oppossed to racism. We're talking about people who consider themselves on a higher plane, either socially, economically, or technologically, who are concerned with why other people find a third individual to be interesting or worth paying attention to. The story is fascinating. The narrative is delivered in the same voice my neighobors have used to talk about car accidents, local crime, the birth of grandchildren, and password problems accessing their network. Mr. Ramsey is telling the story in a very excited way that anyone could identify with after having a day like that. I would think that anyone assigning a uniform reason for all caucasians (or is it all non black people?) could be viewed as racist. Though it might bring less heat to the discussion if we simply considered  anyone with an assumption that they knows why people view the video to be rather egotistical.

/I'll admit I had similar thoughts that made me a little uneasy
//until I said to myself, 'Self, quit thinking you have any idea of what motivates the viral phenomenom! You aren't so damn bright.'
///slashies for peace.
 
2013-05-08 10:56:25 AM  
The white person who falls well within the boundries of average doesn't like angry black people and doesn't believe black people have a legitimate reason to be angry. Not every average white person thinks that, but it is common enough to be an average mindset.

Ramsey is undeniable black and he's likable. It's kind of a relief to white people.

In real life, white people and black people would like a guy like Ramsey. On film, white people like him, black people are uneasy because he comes across as a stereotype.

White people are amused by the stereotypical parts, but what they admire is his selflessness* and sense of unity.*

*ironically, not exactly core republican values in this era.

So the clip points to how easy it would be to fix the racial problem in the USA. White people-admit that you are oppressors, especially by indifference. Black people-stop being so angry and confrontational.
 
2013-05-08 10:57:31 AM  

Summa cum loudly: Worldwalker: Summa cum loudly: Firemen, policemen, soldiers and pediatric brain surgeons are heroes.

But are they?

Yes. They are...exactly because they signed up to do things you or I can't or won't do.

So on that basis, Charles Ramsey is a hero. He could have done what numerous other people, in numerous other situations like this, have done over and over again for years: told themselves "it's not my problem" or "someone else will do something" or even "the bad guy might hurt me." He didn't. He acted. He was an ordinary person who did something that most ordinary people, history sadly tells us, would not do.

Sorry, I disagree. Doing what you are supposed to do does not make you a hero unless you live in a society that is so depraved that doing nothing is the norm. Oh, wait a minute......


I've seen articles referencing Ramsey quotes that he feels a certain levl of shame for not having acted earlier and for not being suspicous enough while people were suffering in his own neighborhood. I don't know if that is a rational conclusion, but I think it allows a greater level of admiration  from me. I can respect someone who focuses on what they could have done better rather than wallowing in momentary hype and shallow praise.
 
2013-05-08 10:58:25 AM  
Well, that didn't take long.
 
2013-05-08 11:06:01 AM  
NPR needs to re-learn what 'Racist' is. This is racist:
www.worstcartoonsever.com
 
2013-05-08 11:14:38 AM  
That's some damn fine projection there, Lou.
 
2013-05-08 11:31:07 AM  

Gentoolive: Lootie just reafirmed every sterotype people have of inner city negros. Well done sir.


That they are generally good and decent people who are willing to help others when some would turn a blind eye? I think they'll take that.
 
2013-05-08 11:36:03 AM  
"Just this week, Dodson that he was joining a nationalist religious order called the Black Hebrew Israelites and renouncing his homosexuality."

Well, that's depressing.
 
2013-05-08 12:10:18 PM  
The part where he basically say  "had I known this a year ago, well this would be a VERY different interview, ya feel me?"

Very REAL kinda guy, would love to tip a beer and swap stories with him sometime!
 
2013-05-08 12:20:02 PM  

Summa cum loudly: Jeeez....get real people. Firemen, policemen, soldiers and pediatric brain surgeons are heroes. I am not taking anything away from this dude, he seems cool and he helped the girl and all....but that is what practically ANY human being would should have done in the same circumstances. Maybe rather then talking about segregation and racial issues we ought to talk about why just doing what you are supposed to do, like answer screams for help, is regarded by our culture as being heroic.

FTFY

The problem is NO ONE else did what he did.  When you read articles about the police being called years ago for a woman with an infant banging on a boarded up window trying to get out, and naked women on leashes in the back yard, and the dude who even went over  to the house with Mr Ramsey, you will see that although anyone should have done what Ramsey did, no one did.

And the lack of action in situations in which common humans with decency would be expected to act is not new.

How is a cop who is paid to act a hero, but a citizen who just acts is not?
 
2013-05-08 01:02:57 PM  
Everything any white person does is racist.
 
2013-05-08 01:08:23 PM  

JDawgNJ: I don't think people mean to mock Mr. Ramsey. Instead, the laughter comes from the genuineness of his animated words and storytelling. In today's world, television and media personalities are watered down, homogenized, and void of anything considered unique, because they're trying to pin the status-quo meter, pretty much taking personality and color (pun not intended) out of things. What Mr. Ramsey did was be himself and get caught up in the moment, and it proved funny in a way that is undeniable. We laugh with him, not at him. If his reaction was manufactured in any way, we'd dismiss it. But it's real, and through that realness (and uniqueness), we all enjoyed it.


Well phrased. The precious NPR types get right up my nose. Wonder what their corporate Chris.....errrr....Holiday Party is like?
 
2013-05-08 01:17:59 PM  
How does Zebra guy feel about this?

profile.ak.fbcdn.net
 
2013-05-08 01:23:30 PM  

gunga galunga: ghiabug99: He's not the fringe of society that the internet laughs at because they are incredibly odd or a walking stereotype.

This guy has great comedic timing, hilarious choice of words fantastic interaction with the reporter/crowd.  This guy is a comedian.  He just so happens to live where he lives and looks like he looks.

The difference between him and other blacksploitation youtube videos is that almost anyone watching it would say "I wish I could do an interview like that and be that funny."  as opposed to "I wouldn't want to do that and be laughed at."

This.

"When a pretty, young white girl runs into the arms of a black man, you know there's a problem" was said with perfect comic timing.


His timing was dead on. "I mean, there was NOTHING exciting about this guy! [beat] Until today." Come on, anyone of any colour could have said that and it would have had people laughing.
 
2013-05-08 01:31:32 PM  
CtrlAltDelete:
Dude helped save three people and he told a good story.

Yes he did mention race at the end of the interview. Yes. So why not discuss what he said about race rather than discuss whatever reasons why you might guess people may have enjoyed the video. No matter what you think about that subject, the internet is a big place and I'm sure you can find a quote that will vindicate your position. But it isn't helpful to scold ourselves for liking the guy.

We are talking about the reaction to the video first and the substance second.

What I took from the video is a very Cleveland guy giving a very Cleveland interview. That tragic bit of self-hatred at the end is as local as a Bertman's mustard stain on a WMMS t-shirt on dollar dog night.

People see Antoine Dodson in this guy. I don't.

I see Harvey Pekar.


I think this comment made most of the rest of the thread redundant.
 
2013-05-08 01:37:56 PM  

Summa cum loudly: Jeeez....get real people. Firemen, policemen, soldiers and pediatric brain surgeons are heroes. I am not taking anything away from this dude, he seems cool and he helped the girl and all....but that is what practically ANY human being would have done in the same circumstances. Maybe rather then talking about segregation and racial issues we ought to talk about why just doing what you are supposed to do, like answer screams for help, is regarded by our culture as being heroic.


No. The first guy didn't do it. And if you think long and hard about being in the same situation for real, you may find yourself awfully close to "not getting involved."
 
2013-05-08 01:45:42 PM  

JDawgNJ: I don't think people mean to mock Mr. Ramsey. Instead, the laughter comes from the genuineness of his animated words and storytelling. In today's world, television and media personalities are watered down, homogenized, and void of anything considered unique, because they're trying to pin the status-quo meter, pretty much taking personality and color (pun not intended) out of things. What Mr. Ramsey did was be himself and get caught up in the moment, and it proved funny in a way that is undeniable. We laugh with him, not at him. If his reaction was manufactured in any way, we'd dismiss it. But it's real, and through that realness (and uniqueness), we all enjoyed it.


This right here.  I saw the dude for the first time this morning, on his "exclusive" interview with Anderson Cooper.  Cooper had no idea how to deal with him or how to react to him.  It was glorious.  Cooper was asking the stupid, banal, predictable questions, and Ramsey was responding with the obvious answers, albeit in a very engaging and energetic fashion.  I loved it.  Not because I am a closeted racist, but because he was giving awesome answers to stupid questions.
 
2013-05-08 02:18:33 PM  

Summa cum loudly: Worldwalker: Summa cum loudly: Firemen, policemen, soldiers and pediatric brain surgeons are heroes.

But are they?

Yes. They are...exactly because they signed up to do things you or I can't or won't do.

So on that basis, Charles Ramsey is a hero. He could have done what numerous other people, in numerous other situations like this, have done over and over again for years: told themselves "it's not my problem" or "someone else will do something" or even "the bad guy might hurt me." He didn't. He acted. He was an ordinary person who did something that most ordinary people, history sadly tells us, would not do.

Sorry, I disagree. Doing what you are supposed to do does not make you a hero unless you live in a society that is so depraved that doing nothing is the norm. Oh, wait a minute......


by your own logic, the people being paid to do it are doing what they are supposed to be doing by ana greement saying give me X and ill do Y or ill get fired for not doign wht im supposed to be doing, and therefore are not heroes... good job.
 
2013-05-08 02:35:54 PM  
Leave it to NPR to play the race card first.
 
2013-05-08 02:47:45 PM  
Wow! Bullshiat... Even liveleakers hailed him as a cool heroic dude which actually says a hell of a lot considering the amount of sickening racial comments you can find there.
I'm not even going to read an article that has such a retarded title, and only paints in black the only good thing about this whole kidnapping story.
 
2013-05-08 03:07:14 PM  
Look there, the "PC police" a real thing.

While I'm sure some people were laughing at him I think most were laughing with him at his brash demeanor and his complete lack of a filter.  His color or intelligence never really came to mind aside from the absolutely hilarious assertion about a pretty white girl running into a black mans arms.
 
2013-05-08 03:44:32 PM  

Worldwalker: If liking that video is racism, what is watching Honey Boo Boo?


nauseating
 
2013-05-08 03:55:35 PM  
Wrong, subby.  I was already a condescending racist.
 
2013-05-08 04:21:53 PM  

abfalter: My wife is black (I'm white).  She laughed at the video harder than I did.


Your wife's racist!

/kidding... hopefully obviously :)
 
2013-05-08 04:48:05 PM  
I thought it was hilarious.

He ought to become a porn star and prove himself wrong.
 
2013-05-08 04:50:41 PM  
I'd smoke a blunt with him. Then crack a 40 and frkkin' cheers, man!
 
2013-05-08 05:12:44 PM  
I was entertained by the clip solely because the guy in the background turns his back to the camera so that we can read on his jacket: "I'D TALK ABOUT MY DICK BUT THAT'S A LONG STORY"
 
2013-05-08 05:59:23 PM  

RedT: Summa cum loudly: Jeeez....get real people. Firemen, policemen, soldiers and pediatric brain surgeons are heroes. I am not taking anything away from this dude, he seems cool and he helped the girl and all....but that is what practically ANY human being would should have done in the same circumstances. Maybe rather then talking about segregation and racial issues we ought to talk about why just doing what you are supposed to do, like answer screams for help, is regarded by our culture as being heroic.
FTFY

 
The problem is NO ONE else did what he did.  When you read articles about the police being called years ago for a woman with an infant banging on a boarded up window trying to get out, and naked women on leashes in the back yard, and the dude who even went over  to the house with Mr Ramsey, you will see that although anyone should have done what Ramsey did, no one did.
 
And the lack of action in situations in which common humans with decency would be expected to act is not new.
 
How is a cop who is paid to act a hero, but a citizen who just acts is not?
 
Yeah, people think that everyone (especially them) is a saint who would stop and help... not always true.
 
2013-05-08 07:31:07 PM  

95BV5: corronchilejano: " Amid the hood backdrop - the gnarled teeth, the dirty white tee, the slang, the shout-out to McDonald's - we miss the fact that Charles Ramsey is perfectly lucid and intelligent."

That's tells a lot of the authors character.

Are you having a stroke? Do you need a doctor?


0/10, didn't even giggle.
 
2013-05-08 09:24:07 PM  
Glad to see there are a few sensible people here.

I was starting to think I was the only person who just thought Charles interviewed like a friend or neighbor.

Charles seems the kind of guy I would hang out with.  Maybe I grew up in a different type of neighborhood than the "I wear my self-inflicted racist shame as a crown" crowd.

And, as far as people building up their "I'm sorry I'm a racist" cred by outing themselves as having guilty laughter at his comment about "a little pretty white girl ran into a black man's arms", I wonder how many of these same people think it's just fine that some guys make good money with comedy just like that on stages and screens all over America.

Seriously, I thought that just about every average American probably had a friend or acquaintance with a personality like Charles, but apparently I'm wrong.  That's sad.  The Charles-es of the world are great personalities to buoy one's spirits.  It's a shame some people have minimized him to be a racial concern.
 
2013-05-08 11:20:01 PM  

Mr. Pokeylope: RedT: Summa cum loudly: Jeeez....get real people. Firemen, policemen, soldiers and pediatric brain surgeons are heroes. I am not taking anything away from this dude, he seems cool and he helped the girl and all....but that is what practically ANY human being would should have done in the same circumstances. Maybe rather then talking about segregation and racial issues we ought to talk about why just doing what you are supposed to do, like answer screams for help, is regarded by our culture as being heroic.
FTFY
 
The problem is NO ONE else did what he did.  When you read articles about the police being called years ago for a woman with an infant banging on a boarded up window trying to get out, and naked women on leashes in the back yard, and the dude who even went over  to the house with Mr Ramsey, you will see that although anyone should have done what Ramsey did, no one did.
 
And the lack of action in situations in which common humans with decency would be expected to act is not new.
 
How is a cop who is paid to act a hero, but a citizen who just acts is not?
 
Yeah, people think that everyone (especially them) is a saint who would stop and help... not always true.


I never said anything about being a saint, and I agree this guy did well and I applaud him. He is certainly a good example to all of us. Hero is simply a term that is thrown around too much ...lets leave it at that. Why I even try to make a point on FARK I will never know....
 
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