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(NPR)   Were you entertained by that video clip yesterday of Charles Ramsey? Congratulations, you're a condescending racist   (npr.org) divider line 98
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2013-05-08 08:49:41 AM  
Oh, cripes. Not this again.
 
2013-05-08 08:52:07 AM  
Dude helped save three people and he told a good story.

Yes he did mention race at the end of the interview. Yes. So why not discuss what he said about race rather than discuss whatever reasons why you might guess people may have enjoyed the video. No matter what you think about that subject, the internet is a big place and I'm sure you can find a quote that will vindicate your position. But it isn't helpful to scold ourselves for liking the guy.

We are talking about the reaction to the video first and the substance second.

What I took from the video is a very Cleveland guy giving a very Cleveland interview. That tragic bit of self-hatred at the end is as local as a Bertman's mustard stain on a WMMS t-shirt on dollar dog night.

People see Antoine Dodson in this guy. I don't.

I see Harvey Pekar.
 
2013-05-08 08:52:19 AM  
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2013-05-08 08:52:39 AM  
I'm surprised it took this long before some smug asshole got on that soapbox.
 
2013-05-08 08:53:38 AM  
Nonsense.  He's legitimately funny and a great storyteller.
 
2013-05-08 08:54:05 AM  
Were you entertained by that video clip yesterday of Charles Ramsey?

Yes.

Congratulations, you're a condescending racist

No.

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2013-05-08 08:55:03 AM  
On the face of it, the memes, the Auto-Tune remixes and the laughing seem purely celebratory. But what feels like celebration can also carry with it the undertone of condescension. Amid the hood backdrop - the gnarled teeth, the dirty white tee, the slang, the shout-out to McDonald's - we miss the fact that Charles Ramsey is perfectly lucid and intelligent.

We who? I didn't miss that.

In fact, being lucid and intelligent and rocking a dirty white tee, spitting slang and eating McD's is what makes him awesome.
 
2013-05-08 08:56:40 AM  
Amid the hood backdrop - the gnarled teeth, the dirty white tee, the slang, the shout-out to McDonald's - we miss the fact that Charles Ramsey is perfectly lucid and intelligent.

Look, I know there are plenty of idiots on the Internet - I read Fark - but we can't assume that everybody online is not lucid and intelligent.
 
2013-05-08 08:56:44 AM  
Am I reading a different article?  I read "it's interesting how people at the margins come into the fore every once in a while."

If you're feeling like the article is calling you a racist for enjoying Ted Williams or Antioine Dodson, that's on you.

What's your problem?
 
2013-05-08 08:56:52 AM  
Most of pop culture right now is designed to make us laugh at people who are poorer and trashier than ourselves, so it's no surprise that people reacted that way to varying degrees with this guy.
 
2013-05-08 08:57:21 AM  
I was just happy to see Lootie is doing so well these days.
 
2013-05-08 08:57:31 AM  
This just in, author outs self as condescending racist by assuming everyone else is. More at 11.
 
2013-05-08 08:58:04 AM  
" Amid the hood backdrop - the gnarled teeth, the dirty white tee, the slang, the shout-out to McDonald's - we miss the fact that Charles Ramsey is perfectly lucid and intelligent."

That's tells a lot of the authors character.
 
2013-05-08 08:58:51 AM  
Seriously

I can tell you what exactly went through my head when listening to him.

Hes a hero so I am going to listen to what he has to say
Hes a good story teller
Hes really funny
 
2013-05-08 08:59:15 AM  
I watched an interview he had this morning with George Snuffalufagus Stephanopoulos.  George asked him how he's getting through all of this attention.  Ramsey just took a can of Red Bull and put it in front of the camera.  This guy's real and hilarious.
 
2013-05-08 09:00:08 AM  
I'd like to see him next as a panelist on Real Time with Bill Maher, sitting between Tucker Carlson and Jon Huntsman's smokin hot daughter (the one that plays pundit on the cable news shows).

/his pic should be in the dictionary under "keepin' it real."
 
2013-05-08 09:00:58 AM  
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2013-05-08 09:01:08 AM  
Lucid, intelligent, and likes salsa music.

Is he single?
 
2013-05-08 09:01:56 AM  
I don't think people mean to mock Mr. Ramsey. Instead, the laughter comes from the genuineness of his animated words and storytelling. In today's world, television and media personalities are watered down, homogenized, and void of anything considered unique, because they're trying to pin the status-quo meter, pretty much taking personality and color (pun not intended) out of things. What Mr. Ramsey did was be himself and get caught up in the moment, and it proved funny in a way that is undeniable. We laugh with him, not at him. If his reaction was manufactured in any way, we'd dismiss it. But it's real, and through that realness (and uniqueness), we all enjoyed it.
 
2013-05-08 09:02:50 AM  
I'm calling shenanigans. My friends of African descent thought this dude was great just as my friends of European descent did.

He's a farking hero, plain and simple.
 
2013-05-08 09:03:35 AM  
If liking that video is racism, what is watching Honey Boo Boo?
 
2013-05-08 09:04:19 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Am I reading a different article?  I read "it's interesting how people at the margins come into the fore every once in a while."

If you're feeling like the article is calling you a racist for enjoying Ted Williams or Antioine Dodson, that's on you.

What's your problem?


I got the same gist from it.
 
2013-05-08 09:04:27 AM  
I thought his interview was hilarious and to the point. In no way did I consider him unintelligent. He was for real and I'd really like to buy him a drink!!!!
 
2013-05-08 09:04:29 AM  

corronchilejano: " Amid the hood backdrop - the gnarled teeth, the dirty white tee, the slang, the shout-out to McDonald's - we miss the fact that Charles Ramsey is perfectly lucid and intelligent."

That's tells a lot of the authors character.


Yup. It's almost as if he's making general assumptions about the guy based on the color of his skin.
 
2013-05-08 09:05:45 AM  
Was the article talking about that dude in Cleveland, or Uncle Ruckus?
 
2013-05-08 09:06:27 AM  
Not once did I feel like celebrating this guy's deeds with a burning cross on his lawn, soooooo...no.

One of the benefits of being both of Irish/Welsh descent and a first-generation immigrant to North America is I generally don't have "white guilt". When Ramsey's ancestors were being bought and sold in, I imagine, the U.S. South, mine were having their non-English languages beaten out of them and/or starving in famines. I'm not saying it's equivalent, but I am saying I don't personally feel bad about societal situations (slavery, racism or the treatment of natives). I feel responsible for my own reactions and impulses. To take on "collective guilt" for the entirety of one's race is in its own way as pernicious a form of racism as is the usual "I consider people unlike me in the albedo scale to be inferior" sort of racism.

Dude was funny, a side porch raconteur type. Yes, and very Cleveland, from what I know of the barren, half-abandoned place.
 
2013-05-08 09:06:53 AM  

Worldwalker: If liking that video is racism, what is watching Honey Boo Boo?


Something you need to be slapped for doing.
 
2013-05-08 09:07:53 AM  
I didn't see the videos yesterday so I went and watched a couple.

I can't see why anybody would be laughing at him. This guy is just real. We appreciate him because he is a genuine person. We like to see ordinary people doing good things and Charles Ramsey is an ordinary guy who happens to have a gift for storytelling and is pretty entertaining to boot.  Good for him.
 
2013-05-08 09:08:54 AM  

Worldwalker: If liking that video is racism, what is watching Honey Boo Boo?


Masochism.
 
2013-05-08 09:09:06 AM  

Valiente: One of the benefits of being both of Irish/Welsh descent and a first-generation immigrant to North America is I generally don't have "white guilt".


Nobody has white guilt, it's a term employed by racists that can't comprehend why everyone isn't racist.
 
2013-05-08 09:09:10 AM  
......I love outraged, white Liberals who have to tell everyone how they should feel. Must everything be race related?
 
2013-05-08 09:10:08 AM  

citizenj: I'm calling shenanigans. My friends of African descent thought this dude was great just as my friends of European descent did.

He's a farking hero, plain and simple.


This!  I was discussing it at work yesterday and everybody thought he was great.

Worldwalker: If liking that video is racism, what is watching Honey Boo Boo?


A sign of no intelligence.
 
2013-05-08 09:10:31 AM  
Listen here boy, I am a condescending racist.
 
2013-05-08 09:10:58 AM  

jdoncbus2: ......I love outraged, white Liberals who have to tell everyone how they should feel.


Like who?
 
2013-05-08 09:12:50 AM  
Jeeez....get real people. Firemen, policemen, soldiers and pediatric brain surgeons are heroes. I am not taking anything away from this dude, he seems cool and he helped the girl and all....but that is what practically ANY human being would have done in the same circumstances. Maybe rather then talking about segregation and racial issues we ought to talk about why just doing what you are supposed to do, like answer screams for help, is regarded by our culture as being heroic.
 
2013-05-08 09:13:10 AM  

corronchilejano: " Amid the hood backdrop - the gnarled teeth, the dirty white tee, the slang, the shout-out to McDonald's - we miss the fact that Charles Ramsey is perfectly lucid and intelligent."

That's tells a lot of the authors character.


Are you having a stroke? Do you need a doctor?
 
2013-05-08 09:13:39 AM  
But race and class seemed to be central to the celebrity of all these people.

Not true douche, just a few months ago it was that white hippy dude Kai. It was almost the exact same scenario guy does something heroic but is actually a bit eccentric and is funny on camera when telling the story.
 
2013-05-08 09:14:01 AM  
He's not the fringe of society that the internet laughs at because they are incredibly odd or a walking stereotype.

This guy has great comedic timing, hilarious choice of words fantastic interaction with the reporter/crowd.  This guy is a comedian.  He just so happens to live where he lives and looks like he looks.

The difference between him and other blacksploitation youtube videos is that almost anyone watching it would say "I wish I could do an interview like that and be that funny."  as opposed to "I wouldn't want to do that and be laughed at."
 
2013-05-08 09:14:09 AM  
I'll just leave this here.
 
2013-05-08 09:15:41 AM  

Valiente: Not once did I feel like celebrating this guy's deeds with a burning cross on his lawn, soooooo...no.

One of the benefits of being both of Irish/Welsh descent and a first-generation immigrant to North America is I generally don't have "white guilt". When Ramsey's ancestors were being bought and sold in, I imagine, the U.S. South, mine were having their non-English languages beaten out of them and/or starving in famines. I'm not saying it's equivalent, but I am saying I don't personally feel bad about societal situations (slavery, racism or the treatment of natives). I feel responsible for my own reactions and impulses. To take on "collective guilt" for the entirety of one's race is in its own way as pernicious a form of racism as is the usual "I consider people unlike me in the albedo scale to be inferior" sort of racism.

Dude was funny, a side porch raconteur type. Yes, and very Cleveland, from what I know of the barren, half-abandoned place.


The Irish were getting sold as slaves in the American and Caribbean British colonies, just like Africans were. Cromwell sold political prisoners (and their families) by the thousands
 
2013-05-08 09:17:43 AM  

Headso: But race and class seemed to be central to the celebrity of all these people.

Not true douche, just a few months ago it was that white hippy dude Kai. It was almost the exact same scenario guy does something heroic but is actually a bit eccentric and is funny on camera when telling the story.



Don't forget Double-Rainbow Guy.
 
2013-05-08 09:18:13 AM  

Arkanaut: I was just happy to see Lootie is doing so well these days.


thatsracist.jpg

/clicks "funny."
 
2013-05-08 09:21:29 AM  
let's see, i am white. i thought it was funny. so i'm a racist? meanwhile, i work with several black guys, who thought it was funny, so that makes them....???

/guarantee that it was a white person who brought this up
 
2013-05-08 09:21:45 AM  
The author had to go out of his way not to mention Kai and his smashing hatchet.
 
2013-05-08 09:22:19 AM  
Lootie just reafirmed every sterotype people have of inner city negros. Well done sir.
 
2013-05-08 09:24:31 AM  
The original article linked tells me how I should think and here her is another:  http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/05/07/charles_ramsey_amanda_ b erry_rescuer_becomes_internet_meme_video.html

Listen, I am fully aware that conservatives and liberals play these games but the politically correct bullshiat is so over the top. Look, I don't think most people care what race Mr. Ramsey is, during a time of tragedy he was able to bring a smile to peoples' faces. The guy is simply funny but oh no, you should feel guilty and re-examine the motives behind your laughter. I went to college in the early/mid-90s and I was more then guilty of playing the race-card and being overly politically correct, it's been in the liberal playbook for decades. Feel free to think I am full of shiat and no, I am not a Republican.
 
2013-05-08 09:25:29 AM  

musicmanboston: /guarantee that it was a white person who brought this up


strangely the editorialist is actually a black dude...
 
2013-05-08 09:25:38 AM  
This just in, many people that write for and speak on public radio wouldn't know a sense of humor if it hit them in the face with a rubber chicken
/However, I think the 'wait, wait, don't tell me' folks are very funny
//I even enjoy "Click and Clack" when I stumble on them
///slashies!
 
2013-05-08 09:26:35 AM  

Gentoolive: Lootie just reafirmed every sterotype people have of inner city negros. Well done sir.


Dad?
 
2013-05-08 09:27:20 AM  

jdoncbus2: I went to college in the early/mid-90s and I was more then guilty of playing the race-card and being overly politically correct



You must have been a real hit at parties
 
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