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(Major League Baseball)   So, how hard hit was the ball that struck Blue Jays pitcher J.A. Happ in the head? Well, it ricocheted beyond first base and up the right-field line (w/video)   (mlb.mlb.com) divider line 54
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2013-05-08 09:19:45 AM
Wow, that's got to be the hardest a pitcher has ever been hit in the history of baseball. No hyperbole.
 
2013-05-08 09:23:33 AM
I'm starting to think this year's Jays are cursed.
 
2013-05-08 09:26:58 AM
I wouldn't be surprise if he now has a long recovery ahead and some lasting issues ahead. He just dropped on that hit, probably unconscious at first before coming back to the screaming pain in his face.
 
2013-05-08 09:38:42 AM

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: I wouldn't be surprise if he now has a long recovery ahead and some lasting issues ahead. He just dropped on that hit, probably unconscious at first before coming back to the screaming pain in his face.


I'm certainly no doctor, but I found the bleeding-out-the-ear very troubling.
 
2013-05-08 09:39:25 AM
where is that BOOM HEADSHOT gif when you need it...
 
2013-05-08 09:39:32 AM
That was just awful to watch. I was happy to see him win the rotation spot. I don't think even if he never loss consciousness as players claim that he'll be back for awhile.
 
2013-05-08 09:43:49 AM

Decillion: Wow, that's got to be the hardest a pitcher has ever been hit in the history of baseball. No hyperbole.


Bryce Florie disagrees.
 
2013-05-08 09:48:37 AM
...and this was 56 years to the day that Herb Score lost a season to a line drive to the face.
 
2013-05-08 10:09:02 AM

GoldSpider: I'm certainly no doctor, but I found the bleeding-out-the-ear very troubling.


Yeah, I was kinda hoping I just imagined that.
 
2013-05-08 10:13:46 AM
I'm impressed that he's getting out of the hospital today
 
2013-05-08 10:25:30 AM
And I had spent an hour yesterday watching linedrives to the head on youtube a couple hours before this. Weird.
 
2013-05-08 10:27:28 AM

GoldSpider: GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: I wouldn't be surprise if he now has a long recovery ahead and some lasting issues ahead. He just dropped on that hit, probably unconscious at first before coming back to the screaming pain in his face.

I'm certainly no doctor, but I found the bleeding-out-the-ear very troubling.


True, I also wouldn't doubt he might have a skull fracture. Does anyone know exactly where the ball struck him?
 
2013-05-08 10:30:25 AM

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: GoldSpider: GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: I wouldn't be surprise if he now has a long recovery ahead and some lasting issues ahead. He just dropped on that hit, probably unconscious at first before coming back to the screaming pain in his face.

I'm certainly no doctor, but I found the bleeding-out-the-ear very troubling.

True, I also wouldn't doubt he might have a skull fracture. Does anyone know exactly where the ball struck him?


Above the left ear.
 
2013-05-08 10:41:26 AM
So for the jays this means romero is getting another start pending how well he does tonight and I think Johnson will make his next start. Either way more Romero but damn if the the last three games haven't been very encouraging. Maicer out of nowhere!
 
2013-05-08 10:44:17 AM

snake_beater: I'm starting to think this year's Jays are cursed.


It's bad luck to be superstitious.

UncleStumpy: And I had spent an hour yesterday watching linedrives to the head on youtube a couple hours before this. Weird.


Why on earth would you choose to spend an hour watching that?
 
2013-05-08 10:46:57 AM

snake_beater: I'm starting to think this year's Jays Toronto sports teams are cursed.


FIFY
 
2013-05-08 10:55:11 AM

puckrock2000: Bryce Florie disagrees.


Was at the Rays game last night so I saw it live.  It was the sound that I found the scariest part  I would say DJ hit it harder, but Happ turned and took it off the side of the head, where Bryce took it in the eye.
 
2013-05-08 11:08:02 AM
That's probably the end of his career. Why don't field players wear helmets again? At least make the hats leather padded or something
 
2013-05-08 11:08:11 AM
Wouldn't it be more scary if the ball didn't ricochet?

Like if the ball just stops dead and falls on to the mound, that would mean all of the kinetic energy from the ball was absorbed into Happ's skull. If it ricochets off down the first base line at roughly the same speed before he gets hit, that should mean the ball is maintaining most of it's energy and Happ's skull is taking less of it.

Am I right?

/It's not like Happ's skull added any energy to the equation
 
2013-05-08 11:09:57 AM
I'm don't think I should watch this video.
 
2013-05-08 11:15:06 AM

TeamEd: Wouldn't it be more scary if the ball didn't ricochet?

Like if the ball just stops dead and falls on to the mound, that would mean all of the kinetic energy from the ball was absorbed into Happ's skull. If it ricochets off down the first base line at roughly the same speed before he gets hit, that should mean the ball is maintaining most of it's energy and Happ's skull is taking less of it.

Am I right?

/It's not like Happ's skull added any energy to the equation


The ball got to 1st base slower than if his head wasn't in the way. The ball tends to roll when your teammate hits the deck with a head injury. Personally I see that as a total lack of hustle on Adam Lind's part.
 
2013-05-08 11:19:23 AM

Lost Thought 00: That's probably the end of his career.


No, it's not.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/22217745/ja-happ-i n- good-spirits-likely-to-be-discharged-from-hospital-on-weds

FTA:

Happ, 30, appears to have avoided very serious injury. The line drive struck him flush on the left side of the head, and he was bleeding from his ear while being taken off the field on a stretcher. The laceration indicates it was just a flesh wound.

Considering how terrifying the injury looked, this is the best-case scenario. Truly great news.


Looks like he got nailed in the ear indirectly. He'll have a cut, a bruise, and a headache, but he'll be fine.

TeamEd: Like if the ball just stops dead and falls on to the mound, that would mean all of the kinetic energy from the ball was absorbed into Happ's skull. If it ricochets off down the first base line at roughly the same speed before he gets hit, that should mean the ball is maintaining most of it's energy and Happ's skull is taking less of it.


Mostly correct. The ball also had rotational energy that probably dissipated through Happ's head, but the linear momentum was preserved, which is almost always much higher than any angular momentum on a ball.

He got lucky. Great news.
 
2013-05-08 11:20:19 AM

TeamEd: Wouldn't it be more scary if the ball didn't ricochet?

Like if the ball just stops dead and falls on to the mound, that would mean all of the kinetic energy from the ball was absorbed into Happ's skull. If it ricochets off down the first base line at roughly the same speed before he gets hit, that should mean the ball is maintaining most of it's energy and Happ's skull is taking less of it.

Am I right?

/It's not like Happ's skull added any energy to the equation


Technically yes, but I think the idea is that the ball was hit so hard that it took a sharp right and managed to make it to the outfield. That means the skull took a lot of that ball's impacted energy and not a softer portion of the head or the hat. If it fell dead then it hit a soft spot or the skull completely gave.

I doubt they'll do a sports science on the coefficient of restitution of happ's head
 
2013-05-08 11:29:39 AM

Lost Thought 00: That's probably the end of his career. Why don't field players wear helmets again? At least make the hats leather padded or something


They're working on a Kevlar hat for pitchers, but it isn't ready yet. The technology is especially necessary when every hitting coach is telling their players to hit it up the middle.
 
2013-05-08 11:30:30 AM

mainstreet62: Mostly correct. The ball also had rotational energy that probably dissipated through Happ's head, but the linear momentum was preserved, which is almost always much higher than any angular momentum on a ball.


Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest sonofabiatch... well, anywhere, ever.
 
2013-05-08 11:35:27 AM
Happ, 30, appears to have avoided very serious injury. The line drive struck him flush on the left side of the head, and he was bleeding from his ear while being taken off the field on a stretcher. The laceration indicates it was just a flesh wound.

www.hollywoodapples.com
 
2013-05-08 11:36:09 AM
Hope he recovers from this, if Brandon McCarthy can, so can this guy.
 
2013-05-08 11:40:19 AM

mainstreet62: Lost Thought 00: That's probably the end of his career.

No, it's not.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/22217745/ja-happ-i n- good-spirits-likely-to-be-discharged-from-hospital-on-weds

FTA:

Happ, 30, appears to have avoided very serious injury. The line drive struck him flush on the left side of the head, and he was bleeding from his ear while being taken off the field on a stretcher. The laceration indicates it was just a flesh wound.

Considering how terrifying the injury looked, this is the best-case scenario. Truly great news.

Looks like he got nailed in the ear indirectly. He'll have a cut, a bruise, and a headache, but he'll be fine.

TeamEd: Like if the ball just stops dead and falls on to the mound, that would mean all of the kinetic energy from the ball was absorbed into Happ's skull. If it ricochets off down the first base line at roughly the same speed before he gets hit, that should mean the ball is maintaining most of it's energy and Happ's skull is taking less of it.

Mostly correct. The ball also had rotational energy that probably dissipated through Happ's head, but the linear momentum was preserved, which is almost always much higher than any angular momentum on a ball.

He got lucky. Great news.


Hopefully. He'll probably also be client #1 on a CTS lawsuit against MLB in ten years.
 
2013-05-08 11:45:24 AM
Unimpressed:

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2013-05-08 11:45:39 AM
Ouch.

Doug Fister caught a pretty good shot in last year's World Series and stayed in the game. That ball carried all the way to centerfield.
 
2013-05-08 11:47:51 AM
According to the Toronto sports writers, Happ is going to address the media at the ballpark today.  I guess it was nowhere near as bad as it looked.
 
2013-05-08 11:49:36 AM
...and he's already signed his hospital release papers, and is leaving in the next few minutes.
 
2013-05-08 11:53:46 AM

Lost Thought 00: That's probably the end of his career. Why don't field players wear helmets again? At least make the hats leather padded or something


I agree, something leather and padded.
 
2013-05-08 11:56:30 AM
What no "BOOM HeadShot"?  Fark must be slipping

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2013-05-08 11:57:39 AM
and a second one at no extra charge
 
2013-05-08 12:27:18 PM

puckrock2000: Decillion: Wow, that's got to be the hardest a pitcher has ever been hit in the history of baseball. No hyperbole.

Bryce Florie disagrees.


I've had a broken orbital socket too, so I feel qualified to say "damn".

/There was no sharp pain for my injury; we didn't get an x-ray until a month later when my mom said it looked like one eye was higher than the other. Just very dull pain.
 
2013-05-08 12:31:39 PM
Juan Nicasio is not impressed.
 
2013-05-08 12:57:09 PM

Ecaps: snake_beater: I'm starting to think this year's Jays Toronto sports teams are cursed.

FIFY


In what way?

The Raptors just sucked, period I didn't see much curse. Only the most optimistic expected them to squeek into the playoffs. The Leafs are doing pretty good and don't seem to be suffering particularily bad luck. And th Argos, reigning Grey Cup champions, haven't started playing yet.

Sure, over the past decade Toronto teams have generally sucked (with the exception of the Argos on occasion), but that wasn't a curse it was just bad teams (or in the Jays case, consistently mediocre teams in a tough division).
 
2013-05-08 01:12:10 PM

UncleStumpy: And I had spent an hour yesterday watching linedrives to the head on youtube a couple hours before this. Weird.


After watching the game, I watched the Family Guy from this past weekend.  Wouldn't you know it, they are playing softball and BOOM, someone takes a similar shot to the head and dies

Freaky coincidence
 
2013-05-08 01:28:07 PM
All things considered, it's still better than pitching for the Astros.
 
2013-05-08 02:09:00 PM
This is nothing, playing for my high school team we had infield batting practice - the third baseman forgot to wear his cup and I was a lefty batter - I drilled one right when he looked into the dugout to talk to a coach and BLAM in the nuts.
Not sure what happened I cant remember, but I do remember batting practice was suspended for on the field players after that.

/Steven pearce was playing with us at this time, so it was quite a while ago
 
2013-05-08 02:11:16 PM

4NTLRZ: UncleStumpy: And I had spent an hour yesterday watching linedrives to the head on youtube a couple hours before this. Weird.

Why on earth would you choose to spend an hour watching that?


Wank material.
 
2013-05-08 02:30:20 PM
he hurt his knee on the fall as well.  He is wearing a brace now.
 
2013-05-08 02:35:25 PM

JohnnyRebel88: Lost Thought 00: That's probably the end of his career. Why don't field players wear helmets again? At least make the hats leather padded or something

I agree, something leather and padded.


So they can look funny all year, and die of heatstroke in August day games?
 
2013-05-08 02:35:37 PM
if you watch the video and pause at the 0:04 mark, his butt drops all the way down until it is resting on his right foot, his right spike kind of gets caught in the dirt and he falls over sideways onto his right side causing his right knee to bend awkwardly.
 
2013-05-08 02:36:57 PM

UncleStumpy: And I had spent an hour yesterday watching linedrives to the head on youtube a couple hours before this. Weird.


sounds like a wonderful afternoon.
 
2013-05-08 03:43:08 PM
That was some scary shiat.

They are testing kevlar under-liners now.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/danny-knobler/20893218/baseball-loo k s-at-kevlar-in-caps-and-other-meetings-notes">http://www.cbssports.co m/mlb/blog/danny-knobler/20893218/baseball-look s-at-kevlar-in-caps-and-other-meetings-notes
 
2013-05-08 04:15:48 PM

TeamEd: Wouldn't it be more scary if the ball didn't ricochet?

Like if the ball just stops dead and falls on to the mound, that would mean all of the kinetic energy from the ball was absorbed into Happ's skull. If it ricochets off down the first base line at roughly the same speed before he gets hit, that should mean the ball is maintaining most of it's energy and Happ's skull is taking less of it.

Am I right?

/It's not like Happ's skull added any energy to the equation


Came here to say this.
 
2013-05-08 06:16:44 PM
Matt Clement suffered a similar injury when he was with the Red Sox.
 
2013-05-08 07:03:59 PM
I don't see why, in an instance like this, play isn't immediately stopped so the injured player can be treated, and then the umpires allowed to make a ruling on baserunner progression. As a safety issue, I can't see how everyone involved wouldn't be on board with that. Happ looks like he's going to be OK, but what if the injury had been life-threatening?
 
2013-05-08 09:42:17 PM
Guy just doesn't have as hard a head as Doug Fister.
 
2013-05-08 10:35:25 PM
Can't even mute the pre-vid commercial? F*CK you, mlb.com
 
2013-05-09 12:25:35 AM
According to the wiki, the ball that killed Chapman made a sound similar to it hitting a bat, so the ball was fielded, and then thrown around the infield before they realized something was wrong.

And from personal experience, the sound of an aluminum bat forcefully hitting a human skull is a sickening thud...
 
2013-05-09 02:19:00 AM

NakedReporta: I don't see why, in an instance like this, play isn't immediately stopped so the injured player can be treated, and then the umpires allowed to make a ruling on baserunner progression. As a safety issue, I can't see how everyone involved wouldn't be on board with that. Happ looks like he's going to be OK, but what if the injury had been life-threatening?


Never actually watched baseball, have you?

Plays happen so fast in baseball, it was probably over before anyone realized what happened.
 
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