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2013-05-08 07:57:35 AM  
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2013-05-08 08:21:34 AM  
Abercrombie is sticking to its guns of conventional beauty, even as that standard becomes outdated.

Article has to go there, doesn't it?  Telling yourself that your fatness is just a reflection of changing standards is fine and dandy, if that's what makes you feel better about your sedentary lifestyle and clogged arteries; but don't get all butthurt when other people fail to adopt the new "standard" you're trying to push.

The only reason Abercrombie offers XL and XXL men's sizes is probably to appeal to beefy football players and wrestlers
Sounds reasonable.  Sure, there are some healthy women who are also built like male football players, but they're few and far between (and really nobody's skewed standard of beauty has incorporated them yet).

/ I'd bang that H&M "plus size" model, but she really shouldn't wear a two piece swimsuit.
 
2013-05-08 08:55:07 AM  
Isn't this a non-issue?  A&F doesn't want large female customers, and so large female customers refuse to shop there.  Everyone gets what they want.

I've never understood what's wrong about a product-maker saying they have a target audience (however brilliant or stupid their reasoning).  If it's bigoted, racist, whatever then we get to find out if their target audience cares about being part of that selection process.

Frankly, I find it hard to believe there are a large number of people in the A&F target audience who will be unhappy with this.  That exclusivity from large people is part of what makes the clothes attractive to them to begin with.
 
2013-05-08 08:57:11 AM  
Article sounds like it was written by a fat girl.  This should have been on the Opinion page since it was all her conjecture along with the conjecture of another fat women with a newsletter to pitch.
 
2013-05-08 09:01:38 AM  

mattharvest: Isn't this a non-issue?  A&F doesn't want large female customers, and so large female customers refuse to shop there.  Everyone gets what they want.

I've never understood what's wrong about a product-maker saying they have a target audience (however brilliant or stupid their reasoning).  If it's bigoted, racist, whatever then we get to find out if their target audience cares about being part of that selection process.

Frankly, I find it hard to believe there are a large number of people in the A&F target audience who will be unhappy with this.  That exclusivity from large people is part of what makes the clothes attractive to them to begin with.


I think that religious octogenerians need to start complaining that Hot Topic discriminates against them as well.
 
2013-05-08 09:02:15 AM  
I'm sure when this business model fails he will say that he was killed by the mainstream media.  My son, who fits every aspect of their target market refuses to shop there because of the prices.  And, if I may say so myself, he would look good in anything.  Girls don't seem to notice his clothing labels.  I raised a smart shopper.
 
2013-05-08 09:04:33 AM  
My outrage? I can't seem to find it.
 
2013-05-08 09:05:25 AM  
Here's the worst part about that article:

"Plus-sized is no longer a niche market:  67% of the apparel purchasing population fit that label, and the number is growing all the time."

America...get off your ass and eat a salad once in a while...
 
2013-05-08 09:11:17 AM  
I once made the mistake of going into the Diesel Jeans store in Chicago looking for a pair of 36x34 jeans. Out of an entire wall of jeans, I found one pair that fit like a 34 in. waist and I could barely get them on (and this was before the skinny jean phase). I looked at the store and said "okay Diesel, I get it. Your jeans are for anorexic tiny men. Fair enough" and I moved on.

/cool story
 
2013-05-08 09:12:00 AM  

advex101: My son, who fits every aspect of their target market refuses to shop there because of the prices


I think "buys overpriced things specifically because of the prices" is an important aspect of their target market.
 
2013-05-08 09:14:35 AM  

mattharvest: Isn't this a non-issue?  A&F doesn't want large female customers, and so large female customers refuse to shop there.  Everyone gets what they want.

I've never understood what's wrong about a product-maker saying they have a target audience (however brilliant or stupid their reasoning).  If it's bigoted, racist, whatever then we get to find out if their target audience cares about being part of that selection process.

Frankly, I find it hard to believe there are a large number of people in the A&F target audience who will be unhappy with this.  That exclusivity from large people is part of what makes the clothes attractive to them to begin with.


The point is that A&F is using an instinctive bullying behavior (exclusion) as a marketing ploy.  Pretty much everyone, even Farkers, agrees that bullying is bad.  That's why we have the monthly bullying thread.  Society goes to great lengths to educate kids about bullying.  Schools have elaborate (and entirely ineffective) anti-bullying programs.  A&F, on the other hand, makes it part of their core strategy, to give the bullies another tool- and they brag about it.

When the only thing that makes your business successful is the degree of dickheadedness you exhibit, you simply suck.
 
2013-05-08 09:19:17 AM  

serial_crusher: advex101: My son, who fits every aspect of their target market refuses to shop there because of the prices

I think "buys overpriced things specifically because of the prices" is an important aspect of their target market.


(fool+money) X Barnum factor = marketing plan
 
2013-05-08 09:20:00 AM  
So A & F doesn't make plus sized clothing.  Who cares.  Does Victoria's Secret?  There are many other brands out there that cater to the smaller sizes.  Are we going to rip on all of them?

What would irritate me more if I were a woman is how the sizes keep getting smaller.  When a XXL t shirt won't fit on an emaciated 12 year old boy.  It's not XXL.
 
2013-05-08 09:27:02 AM  

rtaylor92: I once made the mistake of going into the Diesel Jeans store in Chicago looking for a pair of 36x34 jeans. Out of an entire wall of jeans, I found one pair that fit like a 34 in. waist and I could barely get them on (and this was before the skinny jean phase). I looked at the store and said "okay Diesel, I get it. Your jeans are for anorexic tiny men. Fair enough" and I moved on.

/cool story


Yeesh, especially in Chicago.  I figured they would start at a 40 in waist and go up.

/from chicago so i have resembled those remarks
//purchased size 32X32 at diesel just last week
///getting a kick out of these replies
 
2013-05-08 09:27:22 AM  
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2013-05-08 09:30:03 AM  
tillerman35:
....The point is that A&F is using an instinctive bullying behavior (exclusion) as a marketing ploy.  Pretty much everyone, even Farkers, agrees that bullying is bad.  That's why we have the monthly bullying thread.  ...

No.  Bullying is fine as long as we are bullying fattys.  Fark isn't Fark without the weekly fattybash threads.
 
2013-05-08 09:31:24 AM  
Why is it a problem if a clothing store for skinny teens only sells clothes that fit skinny teens?  I don't get it.  It's not the freaking federal government or something.

Just to increase your outrage, Pacific Sunwear doesn't sell any men's pants larger than a 34.  Are we full of rage about that as well?
 
2013-05-08 09:32:06 AM  

Fecacacophany: tillerman35:
....The point is that A&F is using an instinctive bullying behavior (exclusion) as a marketing ploy.  Pretty much everyone, even Farkers, agrees that bullying is bad.  That's why we have the monthly bullying thread.  ...

No.  Bullying is fine as long as we are bullying fattys.  Fark isn't Fark without the weekly fattybash threads.


are you saying that like it's a bad thing?
 
2013-05-08 09:33:37 AM  

tillerman35: mattharvest: Isn't this a non-issue?  A&F doesn't want large female customers, and so large female customers refuse to shop there.  Everyone gets what they want.

I've never understood what's wrong about a product-maker saying they have a target audience (however brilliant or stupid their reasoning).  If it's bigoted, racist, whatever then we get to find out if their target audience cares about being part of that selection process.

Frankly, I find it hard to believe there are a large number of people in the A&F target audience who will be unhappy with this.  That exclusivity from large people is part of what makes the clothes attractive to them to begin with.

The point is that A&F is using an instinctive bullying behavior (exclusion) as a marketing ploy.  Pretty much everyone, even Farkers, agrees that bullying is bad.  That's why we have the monthly bullying thread.  Society goes to great lengths to educate kids about bullying.  Schools have elaborate (and entirely ineffective) anti-bullying programs.  A&F, on the other hand, makes it part of their core strategy, to give the bullies another tool- and they brag about it.

When the only thing that makes your business successful is the degree of dickheadedness you exhibit, you simply suck.


1)  Did you really just equate their marketing strategy to bullying?

2)  Did you really just call bullying an "instinctive behavior"

3)  Did you really just say that A&F is giving bullies another tool (to bully with)?

Exclusivity brand marketing has been around for decades, if not centuries...to equate it with childhood bullying is patently ridiculous.

Don't quit your day job Sigmund...
 
2013-05-08 09:48:12 AM  

BizarreMan: So A & F doesn't make plus sized clothing.  Who cares.  Does Victoria's Secret?  There are many other brands out there that cater to the smaller sizes.  Are we going to rip on all of them?

What would irritate me more if I were a woman is how the sizes keep getting smaller.  When a XXL t shirt won't fit on an emaciated 12 year old boy.  It's not XXL.


Vanity sizing means sizes are getting bigger, not smaller. When Gap needs to start making 00 because a 0 is too big for people things have gone insane.
 
2013-05-08 09:56:39 AM  

Carth: BizarreMan: So A & F doesn't make plus sized clothing.  Who cares.  Does Victoria's Secret?  There are many other brands out there that cater to the smaller sizes.  Are we going to rip on all of them?

What would irritate me more if I were a woman is how the sizes keep getting smaller.  When a XXL t shirt won't fit on an emaciated 12 year old boy.  It's not XXL.

Vanity sizing means sizes are getting bigger, not smaller. When Gap needs to start making 00 because a 0 is too big for people things have gone insane.


There were some changes though to smaller sizing - especially things like T-shirts.

For example, I have a lot of 70s T-shirts that are tight in an L, but 2000s shirts are baggy in an M.  American Apparel was big with hipsters in the early 2000s precisely because they made clothes like they were cut in the 70s. "American Classic" was the term they used.  Their Ms weren't upsized for a fatter average size.

Now, stores like Banana Republic have shrunk down their Ls such that they're like an S from 10 years ago.

On the flip side, every woman I know talks about getting smaller and smaller sizes when they know they aren't getting smaller.
 
2013-05-08 11:37:00 AM  

RangerTaylor: Why is it a problem if a clothing store for skinny teens only sells clothes that fit skinny teens?  I don't get it.  It's not the freaking federal government or something.


I could that if you're a big-sized teen who wants to wear clothes festooned with the same labels as all of your friends you might care.

/I'm almost 50 and pretty much the same measurements as when I graduated from college. I could go into an A&F and wear wherever I wanted, but I'd rather have my nuts cut off.
 
2013-05-08 11:51:36 AM  
I'm a fat guy, and Express clothes don't fit me.  That doesn't piss me off.  I just go buy something elsewhere where the clothes fit (Muumuus R Us).  It'd be like getting angry because Nike's shoes aren't wide enough for your feet.
 
2013-05-08 12:00:05 PM  
I'd be pissed if I was a shareholder. Intentionally disregarding profit is a horrible business strategy
 
2013-05-08 12:05:21 PM  
Just the other day I went to the Big & Tall store, couldn't find a 30x32 for the life of me.

Discrimmination I tells ya.
 
2013-05-08 12:08:58 PM  

Warlordtrooper: I'd be pissed if I was a shareholder. Intentionally disregarding profit is a horrible business strategy


Except this is increasing profit: it makes their brand more valuable by preventing dilution.
 
2013-05-08 12:23:24 PM  

serial_crusher: Abercrombie is sticking to its guns of conventional beauty, even as that standard becomes outdated.

Article has to go there, doesn't it?  Telling yourself that your fatness is just a reflection of changing standards is fine and dandy, if that's what makes you feel better about your sedentary lifestyle and clogged arteries; but don't get all butthurt when other people fail to adopt the new "standard" you're trying to push.

The only reason Abercrombie offers XL and XXL men's sizes is probably to appeal to beefy football players and wrestlers
Sounds reasonable.  Sure, there are some healthy women who are also built like male football players, but they're few and far between (and really nobody's skewed standard of beauty has incorporated them yet).

/ I'd bang that H&M "plus size" model, but she really shouldn't wear a two piece swimsuit.


The 'standard of beauty' hasn't really changed, they just want to repeat the lie until it becomes the truth.

If it had, I wouldn't have seen Adele on the cover of a magazine recently with the photo shot in a way to make her look much thinner than she is.

Or am I mistaken and this is not actually Adele?

May 2013 cover of Elle
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For comparision, at the Oscars, Feb 2013
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2013-05-08 12:30:02 PM  

tillerman35: mattharvest: Isn't this a non-issue?  A&F doesn't want large female customers, and so large female customers refuse to shop there.  Everyone gets what they want.

I've never understood what's wrong about a product-maker saying they have a target audience (however brilliant or stupid their reasoning).  If it's bigoted, racist, whatever then we get to find out if their target audience cares about being part of that selection process.

Frankly, I find it hard to believe there are a large number of people in the A&F target audience who will be unhappy with this.  That exclusivity from large people is part of what makes the clothes attractive to them to begin with.

The point is that A&F is using an instinctive bullying behavior (exclusion) as a marketing ploy.  Pretty much everyone, even Farkers, agrees that bullying is bad.  That's why we have the monthly bullying thread.  Society goes to great lengths to educate kids about bullying.  Schools have elaborate (and entirely ineffective) anti-bullying programs.  A&F, on the other hand, makes it part of their core strategy, to give the bullies another tool- and they brag about it.



Calling not making clothes of a certain size "bullying" ... i have no words.

In any case, if A&F is so bad, then why would you want to wear their clothes? Like others, I see this as a "win" for everyone. They're announcing that they're a-holes (and bullies!) so plus-sizers should be very happy they can't buy A&F, not even by mistake.
 
2013-05-08 01:00:37 PM  
The author sounds fat.
 
2013-05-08 01:10:50 PM  
If only larger people had...you know.......SPECIALTY stores that catered to them.  Yeah, that would be great.

On another note, all those trendy type stores like A & F, Aero Postale, Hollister, etc just seem like douchebag dens anyway.  I'm fine with sticking to Macy's.
 
2013-05-08 01:16:50 PM  

Coach_J: Here's the worst part about that article:

"Plus-sized is no longer a niche market:  67% of the apparel purchasing population fit that label, and the number is growing all the time."

America...get off your ass and eat a salad once in a while...


I'll bite. You are aware that lobbyists have pushed heavily for corn subsidies, which puts it in nearly every food purchased at a grocery store? You are also aware that in order to have a proper diet the produce section of a grocery store would need to expand to over HALF of the floor, which currently is little more than 10%.

I don't care that you will call me a conspiracy nut. Food companies aren't out to produce healthy food; they're out to produce the cheapest food possible with the highest possible mark up to make their shareholders happy. And Monsanto is buying up everything for grow your own food and engineering the same tasteless crap you buy at the store and you have to repurchase every year because their plants are sterile. So they've got you coming and going.

/and even if there was one in my area, I refuse to shop at Whole Paycheck
 
2013-05-08 01:29:18 PM  
A&F's CEO is a plastic surgery & botox addict.

its a lot of projection on his part.
 
2013-05-08 01:41:04 PM  
Hey A&F, I like your button up shirts - they are the best fitting shirts I've found.  If you could please stop sewing that farking little moose on the pocket that would be great, thanks.
 
2013-05-08 01:51:05 PM  

mattharvest: Warlordtrooper: I'd be pissed if I was a shareholder. Intentionally disregarding profit is a horrible business strategy

Except this is increasing profit: it makes their brand more valuable by preventing dilution.


Not so much.
 
2013-05-08 01:57:22 PM  

Coach_J: tillerman35: mattharvest: Isn't this a non-issue?  A&F doesn't want large female customers, and so large female customers refuse to shop there.  Everyone gets what they want.

I've never understood what's wrong about a product-maker saying they have a target audience (however brilliant or stupid their reasoning).  If it's bigoted, racist, whatever then we get to find out if their target audience cares about being part of that selection process.

Frankly, I find it hard to believe there are a large number of people in the A&F target audience who will be unhappy with this.  That exclusivity from large people is part of what makes the clothes attractive to them to begin with.

The point is that A&F is using an instinctive bullying behavior (exclusion) as a marketing ploy.  Pretty much everyone, even Farkers, agrees that bullying is bad.  That's why we have the monthly bullying thread.  Society goes to great lengths to educate kids about bullying.  Schools have elaborate (and entirely ineffective) anti-bullying programs.  A&F, on the other hand, makes it part of their core strategy, to give the bullies another tool- and they brag about it.

When the only thing that makes your business successful is the degree of dickheadedness you exhibit, you simply suck.

1)  Did you really just equate their marketing strategy to bullying?


No.  I called it being dickheadish.  They are taking advantage of a pretty bad thing (bullying) to sell clothes.

2)  Did you really just call bullying an "instinctive behavior"

Yes.  Have you ever heard of pecking order?  Ever watch a documentary about tribal primates?  Bullying is built in behavior.  There are psychologists who believe this is the case, and it's been studied as part of attachment theory.  Here's a link to one psychologist's theory that bullying is instinctive:  http://www.ccpa-accp.ca/blog/?p=360

3)  Did you really just say that A&F is giving bullies another tool (to bully with)?

I think that argument could be made in that creating the impression that cool kids wear A&F and non-cool (i.e. fat) kids aren't allowed to, it gives the cool kids a tool (i.e. wearing of that brand) to cause the non-cool kids grief.  And that grief really wouldn't exist if A&F didn't make public statements about how the sizing is deliberately chosen in order to exclude non-cool (i.e. fat) kids.  The impression that gives me is that if they had some way to prevent unattractive kids from shopping at their stores, they'd do that too.

Exclusivity brand marketing has been around for decades, if not centuries...to equate it with childhood bullying is patently ridiculous.

Just because it's been around a while doesn't make it right.  Slavery (which is way worse than run-of-the-mill bullying, mind you) was around for hundreds of years, if not thousands too.

Don't quit your day job Sigmund...
Hey, that's my "analysis" of TFA   IANAP (I am not a psychologist).  Feel free to disagree.  But some things are pretty obvious.  Dickheads aren't very hard to identify, especially when they make public statements outing themselves as such.
 
2013-05-08 01:57:59 PM  
The XL and XXL sizes in men's aren't cut for "fatties" either.  They tend to be vanity sizes for medium sized guys with highly athletic builds, like their models.

A&F isn't targetting women directly.  They just have a particular "look" they want, which is wildly unrealistic and arguably dickish, but is at least applied equally across genders.

I don't understand why, if they are such an awful company setting unhealthy and unrealistic goals for body image, that people want to wear their clothes.  This is different from the "if you don't like it, don't buy it" line...  the question is, why would you even want to?  Wouldn't it be like A&F's ultra-thin waifs complaining that they have nothing for them in stores for plus-size women?

Isn't the very act of complaining sort of giving credence to the notion that A&F's ideal body type is somehow better?
 
2013-05-08 02:23:08 PM  

tillerman35: Just because it's been around a while doesn't make it right.  Slavery (which is way worse than run-of-the-mill bullying, mind you) was around for hundreds of years, if not thousands too.


So now you've referenced bullying and slavery in a thread about a clothing retailer who said something mean.
 
2013-05-08 02:34:48 PM  

D135: Hey A&F, I like your button up shirts - they are the best fitting shirts I've found.  If you could please stop sewing that farking little moose on the pocket that would be great, thanks.


Try Uniqlo. They have great fits and their OCBD are only $20. There is no good reason anyone over the age of 18 should be shopping at A&F.
 
2013-05-08 02:39:02 PM  
I mean as a fat person I don't object to them trying for this strategy,  just seems strange to want to turn away business.  I do think he came off as kind of a douchbag though.  I bet he has a really punchable face.
 
2013-05-08 02:47:26 PM  
Not to mention larger sized clothes require more fabric yet are usually sold at the same price as smaller sizes. That's all the reasoning you need really. Though I did enjoy the CEO's trolling of the fat fattys. They should be trolled daily until they finally decide to change and rethink their life choices when it comes to nutrition, diet, and excercise.
 
2013-05-08 03:11:07 PM  

Cymbal: Not to mention larger sized clothes require more fabric yet are usually sold at the same price as smaller sizes. That's all the reasoning you need really. Though I did enjoy the CEO's trolling of the fat fattys. They should be trolled daily until they finally decide to change and rethink their life choices when it comes to nutrition, diet, and excercise.


Walmart charges more for the larger sizes.

I think other retailers are following suit.
 
2013-05-08 03:13:20 PM  

Cymbal: Not to mention larger sized clothes require more fabric yet are usually sold at the same price as smaller sizes. That's all the reasoning you need really. Though I did enjoy the CEO's trolling of the fat fattys. They should be trolled daily until they finally decide to change and rethink their life choices when it comes to nutrition, diet, and excercise.


Well that's not true. The larger you go the more expensive clothes get. I'm surprised you wasted time lying when you could have gone straight to fatty bashing.
 
2013-05-08 03:49:48 PM  
so i guess all the "big and tall" stores are just discriminating against thin and short people?
 
2013-05-08 04:14:18 PM  

tillerman35: Coach_J: tillerman35: mattharvest: Isn't this a non-issue?  A&F doesn't want large female customers, and so large female customers refuse to shop there.  Everyone gets what they want.

I've never understood what's wrong about a product-maker saying they have a target audience (however brilliant or stupid their reasoning).  If it's bigoted, racist, whatever then we get to find out if their target audience cares about being part of that selection process.

Frankly, I find it hard to believe there are a large number of people in the A&F target audience who will be unhappy with this.  That exclusivity from large people is part of what makes the clothes attractive to them to begin with.

The point is that A&F is using an instinctive bullying behavior (exclusion) as a marketing ploy.  Pretty much everyone, even Farkers, agrees that bullying is bad.  That's why we have the monthly bullying thread.  Society goes to great lengths to educate kids about bullying.  Schools have elaborate (and entirely ineffective) anti-bullying programs.  A&F, on the other hand, makes it part of their core strategy, to give the bullies another tool- and they brag about it.

When the only thing that makes your business successful is the degree of dickheadedness you exhibit, you simply suck.

1)  Did you really just equate their marketing strategy to bullying?

No.  I called it being dickheadish.  They are taking advantage of a pretty bad thing (bullying) to sell clothes.

2)  Did you really just call bullying an "instinctive behavior"

Yes.  Have you ever heard of pecking order?  Ever watch a documentary about tribal primates?  Bullying is built in behavior.  There are psychologists who believe this is the case, and it's been studied as part of attachment theory.  Here's a link to one psychologist's theory that bullying is instinctive:  http://www.ccpa-accp.ca/blog/?p=360

3)  Did you really just say that A&F is giving bullies another tool (to bully with)?

I think that argument could be made in ...


Pecking Order does not equal bullying.  They are two different things.  You seem to keep building these false houses of cards that are based on calling two different things equivalent, when they aren't.

Exculsionary Marketing isn't bullying.  Ann Taylor has used Exclusionary marketing for decades...how many Soccer Mom's do you see walking the streets of suburbia beating up women who choose to shop at the Gap?

And as far as that blog, what I can assume the author is actually pointing towards (none of those references are very compelling) is a lack of impulse and anger control, which most Child Psychs will tell you is at the heart of bullying (if the child doesn't suffer from other larger mental health, neuro issues, etc.) and at the heart of child counseling for bullies.

Most bullies are male and have poor or zero parental/guarding behavioral training to manage impluse/anger control (which is what IS instinctive in humans, impulse, not bullying)... so they lash out because of a lack of other personal tools to manage it when they are frustrated, angry, upset, etc.  Also, bullies have more incidents of parental abuse at home than non-bullies...which also behaviorally conditions these kids to bully when obviously they should be doing other things.

If you want to actually learn about the topic and stop this ridiculous line of thinking, I would encourage you to google and read Dan Olweus' work.

/BTW, I am a Psychologist and I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
 
2013-05-08 04:15:47 PM  

tillerman35: mattharvest: Isn't this a non-issue?  A&F doesn't want large female customers, and so large female customers refuse to shop there.  Everyone gets what they want.

I've never understood what's wrong about a product-maker saying they have a target audience (however brilliant or stupid their reasoning).  If it's bigoted, racist, whatever then we get to find out if their target audience cares about being part of that selection process.

Frankly, I find it hard to believe there are a large number of people in the A&F target audience who will be unhappy with this.  That exclusivity from large people is part of what makes the clothes attractive to them to begin with.

The point is that A&F is using an instinctive bullying behavior (exclusion) as a marketing ploy.  Pretty much everyone, even Farkers, agrees that bullying is bad.  That's why we have the monthly bullying thread.  Society goes to great lengths to educate kids about bullying.  Schools have elaborate (and entirely ineffective) anti-bullying programs.  A&F, on the other hand, makes it part of their core strategy, to give the bullies another tool- and they brag about it.

When the only thing that makes your business successful is the degree of dickheadedness you exhibit, you simply suck.


You know what pisses me off? The way Ferrari continues to bully poor people.
 
2013-05-08 04:16:17 PM  
Said reference:
http://www.amazon.com/Bullying-School-Understanding-Childrens-Worlds/ d p/0631192417">http://www.amazon.com/Bullying-School-Understanding-Chi ldrens-Worlds/d p/0631192417
 
2013-05-08 05:43:17 PM  

Carth: D135: Hey A&F, I like your button up shirts - they are the best fitting shirts I've found.  If you could please stop sewing that farking little moose on the pocket that would be great, thanks.

Try Uniqlo. They have great fits and their OCBD are only $20. There is no good reason anyone over the age of 18 should be shopping at A&F.


thank you kindly!
 
2013-05-08 06:08:37 PM  
Exactly who is taking image advice from this guy?  starcasm.net
 
2013-05-08 06:59:08 PM  

hungryhungryhorus: Exactly who is taking image advice from this guy?


I know... he looks like a creepy douche. Hell, I'd stay away from him in dark alleys... as well as well-lit and well-populated open areas. Anyplace, really.

serial_crusher: / I'd bang that H&M "plus size" model, but she really shouldn't wear a two piece swimsuit.


She's not THAT bad.

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/hot linked
 
2013-05-08 07:47:46 PM  
No naked a&f pics? You disappoint.
 
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