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2013-05-08 06:55:21 AM  
I'm guessing Magneto is also leading this Brotherhood?
 
2013-05-08 07:50:09 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: I'm guessing Magneto is also leading this Brotherhood?


Cause he's Jewish?

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2013-05-08 07:54:22 AM  
You know how in a video game at first you don't have much money, but then near like the middle of the game you have such an abundance that you can buy anything? Get anything? And you never run out? I don't know about you, but at that point I stop trying to get it.

What in the blue f*ck would RDJ do with yet another of those paydays? Not that he doesn't "deserve" it, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm just saying how can he care about it? Even if Avengers "only" paid him $35mil, that's a fortune that any person on earth could make last generations. At that point, wouldn't you just stop caring? A satisfied urge does not motivate. How can someone with soooo much money, strive to get more? I'm not being sour grapes here, my wife and I do just fine, I'm just honestly fascinated by it all.

That stockbroker who had $99 million in his ATM receipt. Why work after that? Why not take the Bill Gates route and start working outside of yourself? Maybe it's just me. Smaller yet same type of example, I have a desktop PC, a laptop, and a smartphone. Why would I strive to get even MORE computers? What's the point??
 
2013-05-08 08:01:43 AM  
I like that they claimed The Avengers was only profitable after it broke 1 billion dollars.
 
2013-05-08 08:02:47 AM  

YodaBlues: FirstNationalBastard: I'm guessing Magneto is also leading this Brotherhood?

Cause he's Jewish?

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2013-05-08 08:07:09 AM  

sure haven't: You know how in a video game at first you don't have much money, but then near like the middle of the game you have such an abundance that you can buy anything? Get anything? And you never run out? I don't know about you, but at that point I stop trying to get it.

What in the blue f*ck would RDJ do with yet another of those paydays? Not that he doesn't "deserve" it, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm just saying how can he care about it? Even if Avengers "only" paid him $35mil, that's a fortune that any person on earth could make last generations. At that point, wouldn't you just stop caring? A satisfied urge does not motivate. How can someone with soooo much money, strive to get more? I'm not being sour grapes here, my wife and I do just fine, I'm just honestly fascinated by it all.

That stockbroker who had $99 million in his ATM receipt. Why work after that? Why not take the Bill Gates route and start working outside of yourself? Maybe it's just me. Smaller yet same type of example, I have a desktop PC, a laptop, and a smartphone. Why would I strive to get even MORE computers? What's the point??


The studios are making more money than God for very little work.

RDJ and the rest of the actors are doing the actual work, and making shiat for it. If they have the leverage to force the studios to give up a little bit more of the boatloads of money they're raking in, more power to 'em. And if you need proof that replacing actors in roles because you don't want to pay them what they're worth just won't work, remember the Dukes of Hazzard season without Bo and Luke.

/now if only the writers and directors could get on the gravy train.
 
2013-05-08 08:13:20 AM  

sure haven't: That stockbroker who had $99 million in his ATM receipt. Why work after that? Why not take the Bill Gates route and start working outside of yourself? Maybe it's just me. Smaller yet same type of example, I have a desktop PC, a laptop, and a smartphone. Why would I strive to get even MORE computers? What's the point??


I think it's probably one of those instances where the type of personality required to be that successful to begin with is also the same type that will always strive for "more" simply as a concept.

It's also a matter of scale. 35 million probably feels much smaller when the taxes on your property and and bills for electricity and gas for your jet and whatever cost millions.on their own. That much money feels infinite to us because we're thinking about it in the context of our current lifestyle.
 
2013-05-08 08:24:29 AM  
Wait, the Avenger's only broke even at 1.1 billion?
 
2013-05-08 08:27:53 AM  

nitefallz: Wait, the Avenger's only broke even at 1.1 billion?


Hollywood math for you.
 
2013-05-08 08:28:17 AM  
i read about this from another source.  I'm normally against executive meddling in a movie and believe it usually leads to a worse off movie but i was wondering where disney is in all this.  why havent they reigned in marvel studios and make them pay what the actors want.

then i read the part about how the marvel ceo is the third largest individual stock owner of disney, then it all clicked.  i understood shareholders had some power, but enough to make disney flinch? sheesh.

also the horror stories about perlmutter, its like he lives the stereotype.
 
2013-05-08 08:29:05 AM  

vwarb: sure haven't: That stockbroker who had $99 million in his ATM receipt. Why work after that? Why not take the Bill Gates route and start working outside of yourself? Maybe it's just me. Smaller yet same type of example, I have a desktop PC, a laptop, and a smartphone. Why would I strive to get even MORE computers? What's the point??

I think it's probably one of those instances where the type of personality required to be that successful to begin with is also the same type that will always strive for "more" simply as a concept.

It's also a matter of scale. 35 million probably feels much smaller when the taxes on your property and and bills for electricity and gas for your jet and whatever cost millions.on their own. That much money feels infinite to us because we're thinking about it in the context of our current lifestyle.


Yeah. To us, a bathtub filled with champagne is a once-a-year event. For RDJ, it's a swimming pool, and maintaining a facility capable of filling an Olympic Swimming pool with champagne year-round costs a lot of money.
 
2013-05-08 08:35:11 AM  
 

nitefallz: Wait, the Avenger's only broke even at 1.1 billion?


This was the same logic that New LIne used when they claimed the Lord of the Rings series was only profitable after the third movie made it's money.  Basic math, and and internet search of the claimed cost of the movie, will show that each of the three movies made significant movie for the studio- even if you double the actual cost of the movie to account for marketing..

As far as Downey goes, while he doesn't NEED another $50 million payday, you could argue that without the success of the first Iron Man movie the whole series would have failed.  If they had cast a mid level guy (like Chris Evans or Hemsworth) as Tony Stark and the movie had failed would there be a billion dollar avenger movie?  They needed a star to kick off the first movie in the 'Phase 1' portion of the universe and Downey was the perfect guy for that.  He IS Tony Stark and had anyone else stepped in to that role and the movie made only $100 million, you might not have seen a Thor or Captain America.  It was only after the success of Iron Man that Marvel decided they would try the Evans/Hemsworth combo which cost them less money compared to Downey.
 
2013-05-08 08:41:00 AM  
"RDJ and the rest of the actors are doing the actual work, and making shiat for it. If they have the leverage to force the studios to give up a little bit more of the boatloads of money they're raking in, more power to 'em. "

See, I'm left wondering how much work RDJ is actually doing. It's not like he is ever actually wearing an iron man suit or anything. Granted, he's entertaining to watch when he is on screen. But so much of the Marvel movies are rooted in special effects, I'd rather see the VFX houses get their due, instead of the rash of closings that they have had recently.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/rhythm-hues-vfx-houses-turmoil -4 32579

In the case of RDJ, I'm not sure how much bigger his champagne swimming pool can get. Essentially, this is what is going to doom the whole Marvel movie universe, I figure: trying to keep all of the actors happy over the course of X amount of films; which is an impossible thing to do.
 
2013-05-08 08:46:41 AM  

Nurglitch: Yeah. To us, a bathtub filled with champagne is a once-a-year event. For RDJ, it's a swimming pool, and maintaining a facility capable of filling an Olympic Swimming pool with champagne year-round costs a lot of money.


Now that you mention it, by my quick estimates, it would only cost about 4 grand to fill a hot tub with Franzia. I know what I'm doing for my next new year's party!
 
2013-05-08 08:48:08 AM  

sure haven't: You know how in a video game at first you don't have much money, but then near like the middle of the game you have such an abundance that you can buy anything? Get anything? And you never run out? I don't know about you, but at that point I stop trying to get it.


The article made the point that one of the things that RDJ is pissed about is that his castmates aren't getting treated fairly.  That's a legit criticism.  As for his salary, I can't blame him for bending Marvel over the barrel. They would do the exact same to him were the situation reversed.
 
2013-05-08 08:50:12 AM  
The writer either needs to get glasses or look up the word "doppelganger" in the dictionary.
 
2013-05-08 08:52:56 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: RDJ and the rest of the actors are doing the actual work, and making shiat for it.


RDJ isn't making "shiat".  The rest of the cast, possibly, but $35 million for one movie isn't "shiat."

I think the whole thing about RDJ wanting more money for himself is stupid though.  Maybe actors have inherently fragile egos, but I don't get the whole, "Well, the studio is making 75 bajillion dollars from this film and I only got more money than billions of people on Earth will ever see in their lifetimes.  That's not fair!!"  Or maybe I'm just a weirdo, but if I had already made enough money to retire on a few times over, I wouldn't give a flying fark if other people involved in the project were getting lots more money because of me.  Hell, if it was a project I enjoyed I'd probably do it for free if that meant it was more likely to happen.
 
2013-05-08 08:54:07 AM  

snowshovel: See, I'm left wondering how much work RDJ is actually doing. It's not like he is ever actually wearing an iron man suit or anything.


I'd say he's doing a hell of a lot. He's the face of the Marvel movie franchise without a doubt. Unless they can find another equally charismatic actor or actress to fill that void (preferably in a different role to avoid endless comparisons) they're going to have to keep RDJ around.  Yes, the VFX people deserve their due but audiences need a lead actor they can connect with. Good special effects with bland acting just leads to movies like the Star Wars prequels or Watchmen.

/ yeah, I said it
/ RDJ IS Tony Stark
 
2013-05-08 08:54:38 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: The writer either needs to get glasses or look up the word "doppelganger" in the dictionary.


I had a wtf over that as well.
 
2013-05-08 09:00:04 AM  

imontheinternet: sure haven't: You know how in a video game at first you don't have much money, but then near like the middle of the game you have such an abundance that you can buy anything? Get anything? And you never run out? I don't know about you, but at that point I stop trying to get it.

The article made the point that one of the things that RDJ is pissed about is that his castmates aren't getting treated fairly.  That's a legit criticism.  As for his salary, I can't blame him for bending Marvel over the barrel. They would do the exact same to him were the situation reversed.


It would be cool if they could do what the cast of "friends" did and everyone gets paid the same amount (if I recall correctly). But I guess that doesn't work in the movie industry. I would hate to see any of those that have their own movies replaced or Mark Ruffalo. Jeremy and Scarlett could easily be replaced
 
2013-05-08 09:02:26 AM  

Teufelaffe: FirstNationalBastard: RDJ and the rest of the actors are doing the actual work, and making shiat for it.

RDJ isn't making "shiat".  The rest of the cast, possibly, but $35 million for one movie isn't "shiat."

I think the whole thing about RDJ wanting more money for himself is stupid though.  Maybe actors have inherently fragile egos, but I don't get the whole, "Well, the studio is making 75 bajillion dollars from this film and I only got more money than billions of people on Earth will ever see in their lifetimes.  That's not fair!!"  Or maybe I'm just a weirdo, but if I had already made enough money to retire on a few times over, I wouldn't give a flying fark if other people involved in the project were getting lots more money because of me.  Hell, if it was a project I enjoyed I'd probably do it for free if that meant it was more likely to happen.


He's in an incredibly enviable position right now. It wasn't that long ago that his name was worth about as much as Lindsey Lohan's. When Iron Man came out, casting him in the part was considered a major risk. Now he's got Disney and Marvel by the balls. Would any of us behave any differently?

/ I'm done white knighting for RDJ now, he's on his own
// submitted this with an admittedly similar headline
 
2013-05-08 09:04:47 AM  

Teufelaffe: FirstNationalBastard: RDJ and the rest of the actors are doing the actual work, and making shiat for it.

RDJ isn't making "shiat".  The rest of the cast, possibly, but $35 million for one movie isn't "shiat."

I think the whole thing about RDJ wanting more money for himself is stupid though.  Maybe actors have inherently fragile egos, but I don't get the whole, "Well, the studio is making 75 bajillion dollars from this film and I only got more money than billions of people on Earth will ever see in their lifetimes.  That's not fair!!"  Or maybe I'm just a weirdo, but if I had already made enough money to retire on a few times over, I wouldn't give a flying fark if other people involved in the project were getting lots more money because of me.  Hell, if it was a project I enjoyed I'd probably do it for free if that meant it was more likely to happen.


isn't one of the worries or an actor is one is never guaranteed of their next job, that their career can be over in an instant. I would also think that RDJ likes to do those little independent movies and the huge paydays will afford him that pleasure.
 
2013-05-08 09:05:08 AM  

sure haven't: That stockbroker who had $99 million in his ATM receipt. Why work after that? Why not take the Bill Gates route and start working outside of yourself? Maybe it's just me. Smaller yet same type of example, I have a desktop PC, a laptop, and a smartphone. Why would I strive to get even MORE computers? What's the point??


In the case of the stockbroker, it's not about how much money he has, it's about how much the other guy has.
 
2013-05-08 09:05:10 AM  

sure haven't: What in the blue f*ck would RDJ do with yet another of those paydays? Not that he doesn't "deserve" it, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm just saying how can he care about it? Even if Avengers "only" paid him $35mil, that's a fortune that any person on earth could make last generations. At that point, wouldn't you just stop caring? A satisfied urge does not motivate. How can someone with soooo much money, strive to get more? I'm not being sour grapes here, my wife and I do just fine, I'm just honestly fascinated by it all.


Can't you ask the same of the studio execs? Why should they have another 50 million payday?
 
2013-05-08 09:07:37 AM  

Erix: Tyrone Slothrop: The writer either needs to get glasses or look up the word "doppelganger" in the dictionary.

I had a wtf over that as well.


Oh please, like either of you could tell them apart when they're off the set:
images.zap2it.comwww.beautyden.com
 
2013-05-08 09:14:06 AM  

Waldo Pepper: isn't one of the worries or an actor is one is never guaranteed of their next job, that their career can be over in an instant.


$120 million from two movies means he doesn't need to ever worry about his career again.


Smashed Hat: When Iron Man came out, casting him in the part was considered a major risk. Now he's got Disney and Marvel by the balls. Would any of us behave any differently?


I would behave differently, but I'm not petty or greedy.
 
2013-05-08 09:15:32 AM  

Teufelaffe: Erix: Tyrone Slothrop: The writer either needs to get glasses or look up the word "doppelganger" in the dictionary.

I had a wtf over that as well.

Oh please, like either of you could tell them apart when they're off the set:
[images.zap2it.com image 540x720][www.beautyden.com image 383x602]


The gap in Scarlet's teeth gives her away.
 
2013-05-08 09:29:23 AM  

sure haven't: What in the blue f*ck would RDJ do with yet another of those paydays? Not that he doesn't "deserve" it, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm just saying how can he care about it? Even if Avengers "only" paid him $35mil, that's a fortune that any person on earth could make last generations. At that point, wouldn't you just stop caring? A satisfied urge does not motivate. How can someone with soooo much money, strive to get more? I'm not being sour grapes here, my wife and I do just fine, I'm just honestly fascinated by it all.


The man wants to work - he obviously still likes the lifestyle and the recognition he gets. The reason this is a big deal for him specifically is that he could go work for Universal for the same amount of money. And be treated better, which I think is the hidden point of the article. Universal treats their stars like, well, stars. Full press tours, lavish side perks, Academy Award nomination packages... everything that (one would assume) made him want to be an actor in the first place.

Marvel Studios is known for treating their stars the same way Marvel Comics treated their writers. "You're all replaceable - fans only care about the characters" is their mindset. On a small scale, that's why they had no problem showing the door to Terrance Howard and Edward Norton. On a larger scale, they'll try to pull the same crap  with any member of the main cast if they have the chance.
 
2013-05-08 09:42:02 AM  
Kinda cool that Downey is sticking up for the rest of the cast.
 
2013-05-08 09:43:27 AM  
Last I read about this story, RDJ wasn't campaigning for himself so much as he was for the others in the franchise, like Chris, Scarlett, Jeremy and Hemsworth.  He knows he's set for life and a half, but it seems like he gets the vibe that they might try to screw over the other stars first opportunity.
 
2013-05-08 09:44:09 AM  

Clutch2013: Last I read about this story, RDJ wasn't campaigning for himself so much as he was for the others in the franchise, like Chris, Scarlett, Jeremy and Hemsworth.  He knows he's set for life and a half, but it seems like he gets the vibe that they might try to screw over the other stars first opportunity.


And how the hell did I forget to mention Mark Ruffalo...
 
2013-05-08 09:59:14 AM  

Teufelaffe: Erix: Tyrone Slothrop: The writer either needs to get glasses or look up the word "doppelganger" in the dictionary.

I had a wtf over that as well.

Oh please, like either of you could tell them apart when they're off the set:
[images.zap2it.com image 540x720][www.beautyden.com image 383x602]


Jeezus Christ them titties..
 
2013-05-08 10:22:43 AM  

snowshovel: ut so much of the Marvel movies are rooted in special effects, I'd rather see the VFX houses get their due, instead of the rash of closings that they have had recently


Listen to this man!

/VFX guy
 
2013-05-08 10:23:46 AM  
A couple of months down the pike expect to hear that Avengers II has been green lit now that Andy Dick is aboard as Iron Man.
 
2013-05-08 10:29:33 AM  
Memo to Marvel/Disney:  Look at DC/WB and the clusterfark they're currently on.

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO GO DOWN THIS PATH?!

Don't complain; IM3's gonna make another boatload of cash.  Don't kill the golden goose.
 
2013-05-08 10:30:48 AM  
So, Iron Man, you have defeated the Iron Monger, the Crimson Dynamo and the Mandarin.  But now you will face the wrath of...

...THE ACCOUNTANT!
 
2013-05-08 10:33:59 AM  

bluenote13: nitefallz: Wait, the Avenger's only broke even at 1.1 billion?

This was the same logic that New LIne used when they claimed the Lord of the Rings series was only profitable after the third movie made it's money.  Basic math, and and internet search of the claimed cost of the movie, will show that each of the three movies made significant movie for the studio- even if you double the actual cost of the movie to account for marketing..



Yeah, Hollywood Accounting is notoriously shady.  This leaked invoice shows how, despite making almost a billion dollars in revenue, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix ended up as a nearly $200 million loss on paper.  Most of the loss came from the "distribution fee" that WB charged itself, basically, to distribute the movie.  That and a 10% interest rate on "advance money" turned a $100 million profit into a $200 million loss.
 
2013-05-08 10:40:57 AM  
Meanwhile comic fans sit back and laugh. We're used to lineup changes.

/Wants Mysterion to join just to annoy Cartman.
 
2013-05-08 10:44:11 AM  
What's that saying, "stepping over dollars to get to nickels"?
 
2013-05-08 10:56:44 AM  

sure haven't: You know how in a video game at first you don't have much money, but then near like the middle of the game you have such an abundance that you can buy anything? Get anything? And you never run out? I don't know about you, but at that point I stop trying to get it.


You know how in a video game, there's a finite number of things you can spend money on.  And most of those things are either utility items (for which there's often a ceiling in quality) or vanity nonsense which you'll only look at once or twice anyway?  And you don't have to worry about taxes, or the potential for future divorce settlements/alimony/child support (much less the cost of caring directly for one's own family).  And you can be assured you'll never have insane medical expenses.  And there's zero chance of a currency collapse, even under the most extreme circumstances.  And you won't be passing on an inheritance.  And you can't do things like found a private space agency or start a charitable organization dedicated to improving global health and reducing extreme poverty.

Interestingly, in the real world, one is not quite so limited.

But unlike a video game, one's ability to continue earning can be unforeseeably curtailed by circumstances beyond one's control.
 
2013-05-08 11:00:50 AM  

Mentat: So, Iron Man, you have defeated the Iron Monger, the Crimson Dynamo and the Mandarin.  But now you will face the wrath of...

...THE ACCOUNTANT!


El Contador is back!
 
2013-05-08 11:22:33 AM  

snowshovel: "RDJ and the rest of the actors are doing the actual work, and making shiat for it. If they have the leverage to force the studios to give up a little bit more of the boatloads of money they're raking in, more power to 'em. "

See, I'm left wondering how much work RDJ is actually doing. It's not like he is ever actually wearing an iron man suit or anything.


While a lot of the bigger action shots are full CGI, RDJ had to wear a full physical suit in most of the close-up work in IM1.  They managed to get to just the top half of a physical suit, with CGI legs, in the rest of the films to date.  He's mentioned a few times how awkward and heavy it is--not his favorite part of the films--and I think he had an on-set injury, a strain or something, from the suit at one point.

Minor point overall, but just wanted to illustrate that working on a movie set actually involves work.
 
2013-05-08 11:42:08 AM  

Erix: Tyrone Slothrop: The writer either needs to get glasses or look up the word "doppelganger" in the dictionary.

I had a wtf over that as well.


Same here.  I think the word he was looking for was "counterpart"
 
2013-05-08 12:33:44 PM  
clkeagle:

Marvel Studios is known for treating their stars the same way Marvel Comics treated their writers. "You're all replaceable - fans only care about the characters" is their mindset. On a small scale, that's why they had no problem showing the door to Terrance Howard and Edward Norton. On a larger scale, they'll try to pull the same crap  with any member of the main cast if they have the chance.

Yep. They really are comic book movie makers, that's for sure. Jon Favreau turns into Shane Black, Kenneth Brannaugh turns into Game of Thrones guy, and Joe Johnston turns into two different people. Brian Michael Bendis has more job security than the directors/actors.
 
2013-05-08 12:56:34 PM  
clkeagle:
Marvel Studios is known for treating their stars the same way Marvel Comics treated their writers. "You're all replaceable - fans only care about the characters" is their mindset. On a small scale, that's why they had no problem showing the door to Terrance Howard and Edward Norton. On a larger scale, they'll try to pull the same crap  with any member of the main cast if they have the chance.

Howard and Norton were shown the door because they were both incredibly dickish behind the scenes.  Howard was easily replaced because he played a secondary character in the first movie.  Norton was replaced because Incredible Hulk still didn't do good enough at the box office and they could get away with a different actor in the Avengers for less money.

The problem is, Norton is a huge fan boy of the material - so much so is that he turned into Comic Book Guy.
 
2013-05-08 01:01:57 PM  
Nurglitch:

Yeah. To us, a bathtub filled with champagne is a once-a-year event. For RDJ, it's a swimming pool, and maintaining a facility capable of filling an Olympic Swimming pool with champagne year-round costs a lot of money.

Son, the last thing ROBERT DOWNEY JR. needs is an Olympic size Swimming Pool filled with booze.
 
2013-05-08 01:21:25 PM  
Hollywood is notorious for promoting how amazingly well their top films are doing in advertising, and simultaneously claiming that they're tremendous losses for taxation purposes.

Hollywood math is exactly as accurate as cop drug math.
 
2013-05-08 01:26:35 PM  

sure haven't: You know how in a video game at first you don't have much money, but then near like the middle of the game you have such an abundance that you can buy anything? Get anything? And you never run out? I don't know about you, but at that point I stop trying to get it.



Hah. I'm about halfway through Dead Island and the money I find in game has been going up and up. The guys in the ghetto must have been really loaded compared to the guys at the luxury hotel I started in at the beginning of the game. Makes sense to me.

But seriously, at what point IRL do you reach the point of "never gonna be able to spend it all in my lifetime"? I think they should start paying the A-listers less and lower the goddamn ticket prices, (this goes for sporting events as well) but that will never happen.
 
2013-05-08 01:33:31 PM  
With some of these actors, how much they're paid is more about ego than needing the money. If someone like RDJ or Johnny Depp really wanted to earn cool points, instead of the bigger payday, they could demand that all the people who work behind the scenes get paid better. gaffers, cameramen, props, caterers, all of those people you see on the credits. Give them all a 10-15% pay bump. Maybe more, I don't know how much they make.
 
2013-05-08 01:35:55 PM  

sure haven't: What in the blue f*ck would RDJ do with yet another of those paydays? Not that he doesn't "deserve" it, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm just saying how can he care about it? Even if Avengers "only" paid him $35mil, that's a fortune that any person on earth could make last generations. At that point, wouldn't you just stop caring? A satisfied urge does not motivate. How can someone with soooo much money, strive to get more? I'm not being sour grapes here, my wife and I do just fine, I'm just honestly fascinated by it all.

That stockbroker who had $99 million in his ATM receipt. Why work after that? Why not take the Bill Gates route and start working outside of yourself? Maybe it's just me. Smaller yet same type of example, I have a desktop PC, a laptop, and a smartphone. Why would I strive to get even MORE computers? What's the point??


Well put.

Keanu Reeves is a fine example of a guy who has figured this out. He handed a load of his bonus for the Matrix movies to the crew of the films. He took a lower salary on a couple of films, just so the filmmakers could afford to hire heavyweights like Gene Hackman to work on it. He's recently shot a well-acclaimed documentary about film vs digital, that's probably making him nothing, but it's what he wanted to do.

Or look at Julia Roberts, who did a load of films for Soderbergh because she wanted to do those movies, and took very little salary for them (but a load on the back end).

Just say "fark it. I'll take 2% of the gross and that's it". Even on current performance, that would be $20m.

Personally, I don't think Stark was actually THAT important in The Avengers. There's some good Iron Man bits, but they're all in the suit, as a CG character. You could still have Iron Man, but as the suited up guy. Disney figures that out, they don't need to pay $50m or even $0m to RDJ.
 
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