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(Slate)   Ender's Game trailer released. Do want   (slate.com) divider line 154
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2013-05-07 07:31:03 PM  
About friggin time.

Difficulty:  Harry Potter got to age at a reasonable rate.  Sequels are gonna be interesting.
 
2013-05-07 08:03:51 PM  
Without the Locke and Demosthenes storyline this thing's gonna be a steaming pile.
 
2013-05-07 08:16:07 PM  

Fair_Poopsmith: Without the Locke and Demosthenes storyline this thing's gonna be a steaming pile.


imho, they would only need that story line if they were planning on doing a number of sequels.  I was thinking the movie would be too long and tedious if it was included.  I liked it in the book because it added a political and ethical background to Ender's side of the story (and it is fleshed out in further details in the Enderverse), but I really don't think it would add much value to the Hollywood version.
 
2013-05-07 08:18:14 PM  
Meh.
 
2013-05-07 08:19:36 PM  
I'm curious.
 
2013-05-07 08:26:59 PM  

Lor M. Ipsum: Fair_Poopsmith: Without the Locke and Demosthenes storyline this thing's gonna be a steaming pile.

imho, they would only need that story line if they were planning on doing a number of sequels.  I was thinking the movie would be too long and tedious if it was included.  I liked it in the book because it added a political and ethical background to Ender's side of the story (and it is fleshed out in further details in the Enderverse), but I really don't think it would add much value to the Hollywood version.


Well, they've already stated that the "surprise" ending is going to be explained up front, and the Giant's game won't be included either...

So..  we've got a story about a genius kid at a special school being trained to fight bad guys.  Sounds vanilla as all hell.
 
2013-05-07 08:29:36 PM  

Fair_Poopsmith: Without the Locke and Demosthenes storyline this thing's gonna be a steaming pile.


No Peter, no Valentine, Mazar is now Moari, and Indiana Jones will not be.packing on 45 kilos of fat.

Other than those minor points it's crap on a slab.
 
2013-05-07 08:30:43 PM  

kronicfeld: Meh.


Seriously. What a blah trailer.
 
2013-05-07 08:36:21 PM  
Adolescent astronauts?  Magic-less Harry Potter in Space?

Red Box.  Maybe NetFlix in a few years.
 
2013-05-07 08:45:28 PM  
I'll see it and then most likely read the book.
 
2013-05-07 08:47:05 PM  

2wolves: No Peter, no Valentine, Mazar is now Moari, and Indiana Jones will not be.packing on 45 kilos of fat.


Apparently Mazar was described as "half-Maori" in the book.  I never picked up on it when I read it, but here is a stackexchange discussion on the topic.  Seems silly to put the tats in the movie, but hey, I'm just glad they finally made it.

Fair_Poopsmith: Well, they've already stated that the "surprise" ending is going to be explained up front, and the Giant's game won't be included either...


For what it's worth though, it was a pretty blatant plot twist in the book, too.   No Giant's game?  It's starting to sound like they've boxed themselves out of making any sequels, depending on how they wrap up after the "surprise" ending.

However, I see about one or two movies a year in the theater, but I guarantee this will be one of them.  It has been far too long in the making.
 
2013-05-07 08:56:27 PM  

Lor M. Ipsum: 2wolves: No Peter, no Valentine, Mazar is now Moari, and Indiana Jones will not be.packing on 45 kilos of fat.

Apparently Mazar was described as "half-Maori" in the book.  I never picked up on it when I read it, but here is a stackexchange discussion on the topic.  Seems silly to put the tats in the movie, but hey, I'm just glad they finally made it.

Fair_Poopsmith: Well, they've already stated that the "surprise" ending is going to be explained up front, and the Giant's game won't be included either...

For what it's worth though, it was a pretty blatant plot twist in the book, too.   No Giant's game?  It's starting to sound like they've boxed themselves out of making any sequels, depending on how they wrap up after the "surprise" ending.

However, I see about one or two movies a year in the theater, but I guarantee this will be one of them.  It has been far too long in the making.


All of these.

/still going to see it
 
2013-05-07 08:57:35 PM  
Also, I'm hoping to see a Neuromancer film. Maybe do it in the style of the recent Syndicate game (don't be hatin') as a modern cyberpunk series.
 
2013-05-07 09:03:25 PM  
who did what now?
 
2013-05-07 09:19:30 PM  

some_beer_drinker: who did what now?


exactly.
 
2013-05-07 09:19:59 PM  
Sigh.  It looks good.  I'll go see it, despite my feelings about Card.
 
2013-05-07 09:20:09 PM  

pxlboy: Also, I'm hoping to see a Neuromancer film. Maybe do it in the style of the recent Syndicate game (don't be hatin') as a modern cyberpunk series.


I wish they'd done this in 1995.  Something about cyberpunk movies from that era (think Hackers, Johnny Mnemonic) make me unbelievably happy.
 
2013-05-07 09:20:24 PM  

SphericalTime: Sigh.  It looks good.  I'll go see it, despite my feelings about Card.


Yup
 
2013-05-07 09:21:16 PM  

Fair_Poopsmith: pxlboy: Also, I'm hoping to see a Neuromancer film. Maybe do it in the style of the recent Syndicate game (don't be hatin') as a modern cyberpunk series.

I wish they'd done this in 1995.  Something about cyberpunk movies from that era (think Hackers, Johnny Mnemonic) make me unbelievably happy.


It was the cool soundtracks.
 
2013-05-07 09:34:47 PM  

Fair_Poopsmith: pxlboy: Also, I'm hoping to see a Neuromancer film. Maybe do it in the style of the recent Syndicate game (don't be hatin') as a modern cyberpunk series.

I wish they'd done this in 1995.  Something about cyberpunk movies from that era (think Hackers, Johnny Mnemonic) make me unbelievably happy.


As someone who loved johnny neumonic and watched it again after a thread popped up about it. Man that movie sucks now. Does not age well at all.
 
2013-05-07 09:35:03 PM  
For those of you talking about them not going for sequels, have you actually read the sequels to the book Ender's Game?  Like 'em or not, they're nothing at all like the first book in pacing, atmosphere, or subject matter, which makes them pretty much worthless in the eyes of Hollywood as potential sequel material.
 
2013-05-07 09:39:45 PM  

Fair_Poopsmith: pxlboy: Also, I'm hoping to see a Neuromancer film. Maybe do it in the style of the recent Syndicate game (don't be hatin') as a modern cyberpunk series.

I wish they'd done this in 1995.  Something about cyberpunk movies from that era (think Hackers, Johnny Mnemonic) make me unbelievably happy.


The further back you go, the less you can rely on CG to carry your movie. Today, while sometimes visually stunning, they count on that visual impact to lure the audience in rather anything of substance. You don't have to use your imagination and most things either seem entirely implausible, or completely outrageous. Take for example Blade Runner and compare that to say what the Terminator franchise has become (albeit that might be an orange v apple comparison). This is why books most of the time are far superior in nature, they don't have any flashy visuals they can rely on most of the time. They don't build characters the way they used to. In most movies today I HOPE the main character dies - or - I really don't care what happens. I know that I am buying a ticket to drink beer and turn my brain off and take in the sights.

I agree with you about movies "then" versus now. The same goes for most video games now also. When you depart from core mechanics and produce a predictable formulaic atrocity, the only thing you can do is polish the turd with CG. Unfortunately, that HAS carried a lot of people this far and says a lot about our culture today.
 
2013-05-07 09:42:22 PM  
Ben Kingsley's presence does not fill me with confidence.
 
2013-05-07 09:42:54 PM  

texdent: I'll see it and then most likely read the book.


Just don't buy either. Borrow from the library. Don't give that nutjob OSC any money.
 
2013-05-07 09:44:42 PM  
I hope that Asa Butterfield turns out to be gay, just so Card Orson Scott can writhe with fury.
 
2013-05-07 09:45:21 PM  

2wolves: No Peter, no Valentine, Mazar is now Moari, and Indiana Jones will not be.packing on 45 kilos of fat.


Peter and Valentine are in the movie.  I'm pretty sure the visit on the lake with Valentine is in the movie.
 
2013-05-07 09:45:47 PM  
Ben Kingsley seems to just be grabbing any paycheck he can, these days.
 
2013-05-07 09:47:36 PM  

Teufelaffe: For those of you talking about them not going for sequels, have you actually read the sequels to the book Ender's Game?  Like 'em or not, they're nothing at all like the first book in pacing, atmosphere, or subject matter, which makes them pretty much worthless in the eyes of Hollywood as potential sequel material.


Yeah, the sequels were meh at best, the sidequels (?) were better, but how the fark do you do that as a movie?
 
2013-05-07 09:48:00 PM  

ModernLuddite: Ben Kingsley's presence does not fill me with confidence.


Ben Kingsley is the ultimate "rises to the level of the movie". If the movie is great, he'll be great. If not, you can tell he doesn't try.
 
2013-05-07 09:48:39 PM  

Corn_Fed: Ben Kingsley seems to just be grabbing any paycheck he can, these days.


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And gift bags. That's the best part of acting.
 
2013-05-07 09:50:25 PM  
Gandhi, how low thee hath fallen.
 
2013-05-07 09:51:02 PM  
Also im pleasantly surprised that the battleroom looks better than i ever imagined it. Whenever i read the books it was just white in my head, sorta like the testing chambers in portal, although i read the books years before portal, maybe a 2001 influence or something...
 
2013-05-07 09:54:40 PM  
They make this way-the-fark-overrated pile of dogcrap into a movie, and I'm still waiting on my IMAX 3D Ringworld?

Hollywood is not only out of ideas, it's out of taste.
 
2013-05-07 09:58:06 PM  
My favorite quote from the book

"In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then in that very moment I also love him. I think it's impossible to really understand somebody, what they want, what they believe, and not love them the way they love themselves. And then, in that very moment when I love them.... I destroy them." - Ender
 
2013-05-07 09:59:47 PM  
kids ruin movies.  this will be no different.
 
2013-05-07 10:00:57 PM  
As long as they have Ender killing the other kid in Battle School I'll be fine.
 
2013-05-07 10:01:20 PM  

doofusgumby: texdent: I'll see it and then most likely read the book.

Just don't buy either. Borrow from the library. Don't give that nutjob OSC any money.


OSC is one of the most bitter, reactionary human beings ever to put pen to paper, his books are progressively lazy and increasingly poorly-written cash-ins, and even at his absolute best, his understanding of global politics (and, for that matter, any and all cultures outside of middle-class-right-wing-white-Mormon America) is roughly on the level of a "mature-for-my-age" homeschooled 17-year-old.

But Ender's Game is a good read--and a surprisingly ambiguous, self-critical one. And no matter what a giant turd OSC is, I don't think there's any shame in giving him money for that book.
 
2013-05-07 10:02:42 PM  

AdrienVeidt: They make this way-the-fark-overrated pile of dogcrap into a movie, and I'm still waiting on my IMAX 3D Ringworld?

Hollywood is not only out of ideas, it's out of taste.


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2013-05-07 10:04:00 PM  

pkjun: doofusgumby: texdent: I'll see it and then most likely read the book.

Just don't buy either. Borrow from the library. Don't give that nutjob OSC any money.

OSC is one of the most bitter, reactionary human beings ever to put pen to paper, his books are progressively lazy and increasingly poorly-written cash-ins, and even at his absolute best, his understanding of global politics (and, for that matter, any and all cultures outside of middle-class-right-wing-white-Mormon America) is roughly on the level of a "mature-for-my-age" homeschooled 17-year-old.

But Ender's Game is a good read--and a surprisingly ambiguous, self-critical one. And no matter what a giant turd OSC is, I don't think there's any shame in giving him money for that book.


A Planet Called Treason was actually pretty cool. But it was also written in 1979, before he went totally batsh*t nuts. It could make for an interesting film or perhaps even a decent video game, but somehow I doubt either of those will ever happen.
 
2013-05-07 10:04:27 PM  

ICUP: My favorite quote from the book

"In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then in that very moment I also love him. I think it's impossible to really understand somebody, what they want, what they believe, and not love them the way they love themselves. And then, in that very moment when I love them.... I destroy them." - Ender


This is one thing I think they really need to get right but which they really might drop the ball on: the absolute destruction of Ender's psyche.  The thing that makes him the perfect commander is his ability to empathize with the enemy but that also causes him great pain.  Without that aspect, it's just pretty generic good guy vs. bad guy.
 
2013-05-07 10:04:56 PM  

Cyno01: AdrienVeidt: They make this way-the-fark-overrated pile of dogcrap into a movie, and I'm still waiting on my IMAX 3D Ringworld?

Hollywood is not only out of ideas, it's out of taste.

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I would be happy if they had done Preacher as only HBO could have done.
 
2013-05-07 10:10:48 PM  

pxlboy: Cyno01: AdrienVeidt: They make this way-the-fark-overrated pile of dogcrap into a movie, and I'm still waiting on my IMAX 3D Ringworld?

Hollywood is not only out of ideas, it's out of taste.

[i.imgur.com image 334x385]

I would be happy if they had done Preacher as only HBO could have done.


Well somebody needs to do a new goddamn space opera already. Theres been nothing since SGU and nothing good since S3 of BSG.
 
2013-05-07 10:11:09 PM  
I'll maybe download this for free at some point.  Not a movie theater movie.  There isn't one line in that trailer that sounds original to me, and (having read the book) I know that there's not much fresh on the page either.  Card is a hack, and a loon.
 
2013-05-07 10:12:27 PM  
SPOILERmaybe...
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Did they show the ending in the trailer?  Certainly seemed like it.
 
2013-05-07 10:13:42 PM  

rugman11: ICUP: My favorite quote from the book

"In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then in that very moment I also love him. I think it's impossible to really understand somebody, what they want, what they believe, and not love them the way they love themselves. And then, in that very moment when I love them.... I destroy them." - Ender

This is one thing I think they really need to get right but which they really might drop the ball on: the absolute destruction of Ender's psyche.  The thing that makes him the perfect commander is his ability to empathize with the enemy but that also causes him great pain.  Without that aspect, it's just pretty generic good guy vs. bad guy.


Exactly right on.
 
2013-05-07 10:14:04 PM  

donnielove: SPOILERmaybe...
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Did they show the ending in the trailer?  Certainly seemed like it.


They did, but really, if you haven't read the book, it really doesn't mean anything.  It also looks like they show Val and Ender on the Bugger planet but, again, if you haven't read the book, there's no real content for the shot.
 
2013-05-07 10:14:15 PM  

donnielove: SPOILERmaybe...
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Did they show the ending in the trailer?  Certainly seemed like it.


They did. But you would only know it if youve already read the book, so... Otherwise its just another Baysplosion™.
 
2013-05-07 10:18:59 PM  
The Shadow books seem more Hollywood-ready as sequels go, if they can make the other characters compelling enough in the film to carry the sequels - introduce a little Bean.
 
2013-05-07 10:19:28 PM  
Sounds like Ford was really phoning it in on the narration there. He just sounded bored.


ModernLuddite: Ben Kingsley's presence does not fill me with confidence.


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2013-05-07 10:20:28 PM  
Looks like the target audience is 12 year old boys, I'll pass.
 
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