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(STLToday)   Not News: St. Louis-area landfill smelling particularly bad today. News: Because of underground fires. Fark: "State officials have said the possibility of fires reaching the radioactive materials is remote"   (stltoday.com ) divider line
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ecl
2013-05-07 05:32:30 PM  

noitsnot: ISO15693: Molavian: Gyrfalcon: basemetal: Nuclear waste in a land fill?  What are we talking here, some old medical Iodine 131 or a bunch of old smoke detectors, or some really nasty stuff?

Either way, we'll be seeing it on the SyFy Channel next month.

I think this was the second episode of Defiance.

[www.blastr.com image 710x399]

Clearly not St. Louis because there are terrain features taller than a gnat's ass.


St Louis isn't flat you idiot.
 
2013-05-07 05:32:38 PM  

mjohnson71: Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

//and the barbeque sucks

Woah there. Now you're just trolling.


it isn't trolling when it's the truth
 
2013-05-07 05:33:06 PM  

SpdrJay: Oh well, after it explodes we'll rename it Defiance.


Too late. There's already a town named that just down the road.
 
2013-05-07 05:35:03 PM  

GoldSpider: Perducci: Sounds like this will be...
Nothing but trouble.

Is that you, Mr. Bonestripper?


You sound like a banker!
 
2013-05-07 05:36:43 PM  
We've got a few of these sites in the area. Mainly from Mallinckrodt during the Manhattan Project. There's a few in the airport area listed here:

http://www.mvs.usace.army.mil/Missions/CentersofExpertise/FormerlyUt il izedSitesRemedialActionProgram.aspx

Google Map of the SLAPS site (which I used to drive by quite a bit):  https://local.google.com/?ll=38.759668,-90.35675&spn=0.005437,0.00825 6 &t=h&z=18&iwloc=lyrftr:m,4907595101238446798,38.766097,-90.444345

Weldon Spring (mentioned above, the giant white pile) is mainly TNT and other explosives, and not quite as much as uranium related items as SLAPS.

The site in Bridgeton (mentioned in this article), it appears that some of the covering dirt from the landfill came from the SLAPS area, which is only a few miles away.
 
2013-05-07 05:36:51 PM  

Heathen: mjohnson71: Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

//and the barbeque sucks

Woah there. Now you're just trolling.

it isn't trolling when it's the truth


And your problem with St. Louis barbeque is....?
 
2013-05-07 05:37:21 PM  

Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

/but Cardinals
//and the barbeque sucks


Just stay in your cow town on your side of the state. We'll be fine without you. And I dare you to walk around after dark East of Paseo street. Talk about a hell hole.
 
2013-05-07 05:37:59 PM  

show me: kbronsito: can't the just move the town five miles down the road?

Most of Bridgeton was already leveled to make room for an additional runway at Lambert Airport that we don't need. But the Feds paid for it, so meh.


I flew over that on approach to STL once. Kinda eerie seeing all of the cul-de-sacs with no houses around them and such.
That whole runway thing was kinda sad, really. Planned before TWA went bust and they were actually generating more traffic every year, then funded after AA acquired TWA but planned to keep a hub, and construction finally started 6 weeks before 9/11. So yeah, in hindsight, not necessary (and rarely even used) but going on the data they had at the time, and inertia in government projects being what it is, I can see how that all came to pass.
 
2013-05-07 05:38:38 PM  

GoldSpider: Perducci: Sounds like this will be...
Nothing but trouble.

Is that you, Mr. Bonestripper?


Haven't seem him in the thread... lol
 
2013-05-07 05:39:04 PM  
Throw some pig on the smoldering stench and use the Chernoyl BBQ sauce.

www.dreadedthread.com


//RealTexas BBQ doesn't use pig
 
2013-05-07 05:43:30 PM  
OK, OK, OK, we admit, our methods of disposing of nuclear waste in the past weren't always the best.  But you have our word for it, citizen, that our newest, latest, modern, scientific techniques ensure that it is virtually impossible for anything to go wrong with nuclear waste storage.

Modern nuclear waste storage is truly clean, cheap and safe.

/truly
 
2013-05-07 05:43:45 PM  

show me: SpdrJay: Oh well, after it explodes we'll rename it Defiance.

Too late. There's already a town named that just down the road.


Are there lots of "aliens" with exotic contact lenses there?
 
2013-05-07 05:43:52 PM  
You know who else downplayed the risk of radiation exposure during a crisis?
 
2013-05-07 05:44:07 PM  

buzzcut73: show me: kbronsito: can't the just move the town five miles down the road?

Most of Bridgeton was already leveled to make room for an additional runway at Lambert Airport that we don't need. But the Feds paid for it, so meh.

I flew over that on approach to STL once. Kinda eerie seeing all of the cul-de-sacs with no houses around them and such.
That whole runway thing was kinda sad, really. Planned before TWA went bust and they were actually generating more traffic every year, then funded after AA acquired TWA but planned to keep a hub, and construction finally started 6 weeks before 9/11. So yeah, in hindsight, not necessary (and rarely even used) but going on the data they had at the time, and inertia in government projects being what it is, I can see how that all came to pass.


Yes, it was definitely a casualty of bad timing, bad economy, and Carl farking Icann driving TWA into the ground in the '80s. Did you know Lambert was the 7th busiest airport in the US before TWA got raped?
 
2013-05-07 05:45:16 PM  

SpdrJay: show me: SpdrJay: Oh well, after it explodes we'll rename it Defiance.

Too late. There's already a town named that just down the road.

Are there lots of "aliens" with exotic contact lenses there?


Just a couple of biker bars.
 
2013-05-07 05:47:24 PM  

show me: buzzcut73: show me: kbronsito: can't the just move the town five miles down the road?

Most of Bridgeton was already leveled to make room for an additional runway at Lambert Airport that we don't need. But the Feds paid for it, so meh.

I flew over that on approach to STL once. Kinda eerie seeing all of the cul-de-sacs with no houses around them and such.
That whole runway thing was kinda sad, really. Planned before TWA went bust and they were actually generating more traffic every year, then funded after AA acquired TWA but planned to keep a hub, and construction finally started 6 weeks before 9/11. So yeah, in hindsight, not necessary (and rarely even used) but going on the data they had at the time, and inertia in government projects being what it is, I can see how that all came to pass.

Yes, it was definitely a casualty of bad timing, bad economy, and Carl farking Icann driving TWA into the ground in the '80s. Did you know Lambert was the 7th busiest airport in the US before TWA got raped?


Its sad to fly in/out of Lambert now and remember what sort of madhouse that place was in the 80's and 90's.

/Fark Carl Icahn
//AND American Airlines
 
2013-05-07 05:48:41 PM  

mjohnson71: Heathen: mjohnson71: Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

//and the barbeque sucks

Woah there. Now you're just trolling.

it isn't trolling when it's the truth

And your problem with St. Louis barbeque is....?


brisket is the only true BBQ, not something that St. Louis does real well IMO...we coo?
 
2013-05-07 05:48:55 PM  

SpdrJay: show me: SpdrJay: Oh well, after it explodes we'll rename it Defiance.

Too late. There's already a town named that just down the road.

Are there lots of "aliens" with exotic contact lenses there?


No, just a bunch of bikers and tourists on their way to Wine Country.

CSB: France's grape vines were devastated years ago and Missouri shipped a bunch of replacement ones to save their vineyards.
 
zez
2013-05-07 05:49:32 PM  

SpdrJay: Oh well, after it explodes we'll rename it Defiance.


Defiance is actually just a few miles down the road
 
2013-05-07 05:50:23 PM  

ecl: noitsnot: ISO15693: Molavian: Gyrfalcon: basemetal: Nuclear waste in a land fill?  What are we talking here, some old medical Iodine 131 or a bunch of old smoke detectors, or some really nasty stuff?

Either way, we'll be seeing it on the SyFy Channel next month.

I think this was the second episode of Defiance.

[www.blastr.com image 710x399]

Clearly not St. Louis because there are terrain features taller than a gnat's ass.

St Louis isn't flat you idiot.


The whole midwest is flat, my friend. Some bluffs just don't cut it.
 
2013-05-07 05:51:01 PM  

Heathen: mjohnson71: Heathen: mjohnson71: Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

//and the barbeque sucks

Woah there. Now you're just trolling.

it isn't trolling when it's the truth

And your problem with St. Louis barbeque is....?

brisket is the only true BBQ, not something that St. Louis does real well IMO...we coo?


You must be from Texas. Austin is nice. The rest...
 
2013-05-07 05:53:57 PM  
Has the smell reached the level "New Jersey" yet?
 
2013-05-07 05:56:17 PM  

show me: Heathen: mjohnson71: Heathen: mjohnson71: Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

//and the barbeque sucks

Woah there. Now you're just trolling.

it isn't trolling when it's the truth

And your problem with St. Louis barbeque is....?

brisket is the only true BBQ, not something that St. Louis does real well IMO...we coo?

You must be from Texas. Austin is nice. The rest...


agreed, Austin is the only place in TX I would freely live.  Well there are many small towns that are wonderful but I assume you are only talking about major cities
 
2013-05-07 05:59:10 PM  

noitsnot: The whole midwest is flat, my friend. Some bluffs just don't cut it.


Some parts of Indiana actually experience mild elevation change (Bloomington mostly) but yeah, I decided when driving through that Iowa, Illinoise, Indiana, and Ohio are all actually the same state.
 
2013-05-07 05:59:49 PM  
Also my fingers move faster than my brain's spellchecker. My bad.
 
2013-05-07 06:01:38 PM  

Car_Ramrod: St. Louis is a landfill. I can't imagine the smell making it any worse.


You were involved in Chicago politics. You weren't just in a cesspool, you were actively contributing to it. St Louis stink can't even begin to compare to your foul stench....
 
2013-05-07 06:03:16 PM  
content6.flixster.com
We were forced to become what you drove through today; a burnt out coal field and the biggest icebox graveyard this side of the Ohio foundry belt! And that's why I *never* let a banker go!
 
2013-05-07 06:03:22 PM  

ladyfortuna: Also my fingers move faster than my brain's spellchecker. My bad.


Actually, that is the correct way to spell Illinoise. Another acceptable one is Ill-Annoy.
 
2013-05-07 06:13:13 PM  

show me: Yeah, well, CUBS! So There!


eff you.....


/we'll get them next season.


img692.imageshack.us
 
2013-05-07 06:13:25 PM  

noitsnot: The whole midwest is flat, my friend.


You can watch your dog run away for three days.
 
2013-05-07 06:13:48 PM  

show me: Heathen: mjohnson71: Heathen: mjohnson71: Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

//and the barbeque sucks

Woah there. Now you're just trolling.

it isn't trolling when it's the truth

And your problem with St. Louis barbeque is....?

brisket is the only true BBQ, not something that St. Louis does real well IMO...we coo?

You must be from Texas. Austin is nice. The rest...


He's from Vegas. Forgive his abject stupidity.
 
2013-05-07 06:14:11 PM  

ecl: noitsnot: ISO15693: Molavian: Gyrfalcon: basemetal: Nuclear waste in a land fill?  What are we talking here, some old medical Iodine 131 or a bunch of old smoke detectors, or some really nasty stuff?

Either way, we'll be seeing it on the SyFy Channel next month.

I think this was the second episode of Defiance.

[www.blastr.com image 710x399]

Clearly not St. Louis because there are terrain features taller than a gnat's ass.

St Louis isn't flat you idiot.


This may appease you - I have seen the Piasa Bird:

img.photobucket.com

Not only that, but I know it's not the original (which was destroyed by a rock quarry I believe).
 
2013-05-07 06:28:47 PM  
Heathen:  brisket is the only true BBQ, not something that St. Louis does real well IMO...we coo?

Go to Pappy's (get there early - like no later than 2) and try the brisket with a side of sweet potato fries & fried corn on the cobb.  Heaven.  And it's only $7.75 for a sandwich or $11.99 for a platter!

If you're in the mood, go next door to Buffalo Brewing for a quick pint.

If you've already been, then your handle is appropriate.  ;-)
 
2013-05-07 06:30:58 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: So we can expect some unholy amalgam of Stan Musial's corpse, the Arch and burnt ends to arise and begin raining radioactive death o'er the land?


Nah, but a whole lot of yuppie puppies out in the concrete hell that is St. Charles, Florissant, Hazelwood, and Maryland Heights MO might have to be aborted or suffer birth defects if that happens and the whims of the prevailing winds.
 
2013-05-07 06:43:25 PM  

basemetal: Nuclear waste in a land fill?  What are we talking here, some old medical Iodine 131 or a bunch of old smoke detectors, or some really nasty stuff?


http://westlakelandfill.com/History.aspx

Moderately nasty.  Basically depleted uranium in the chemicals used to dissolve/precipitate it.  Nothing trans-Uranic nor any of the really nasty radioactive daughter products of fission.  Somewhere along the level of nasty of some of the uranium-mine tailings out in Indian Country.
 
2013-05-07 06:45:49 PM  

Kibbler: OK, OK, OK, we admit, our methods of disposing of nuclear waste in the past weren't always the best.  But you have our word for it, citizen, that our newest, latest, modern, scientific techniques ensure that it is virtually impossible for anything to go wrong with nuclear waste storage.

Modern nuclear waste storage is truly clean, cheap and safe.

/truly


i.imgur.com
Courtesy of Disney
 
2013-05-07 06:48:14 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Mr. Coffee Nerves: So we can expect some unholy amalgam of Stan Musial's corpse, the Arch and burnt ends to arise and begin raining radioactive death o'er the land?

Nah, but a whole lot of yuppie puppies out in the concrete hell that is St. Charles, Florissant, Hazelwood, and Maryland Heights MO might have to be aborted or suffer birth defects if that happens and the whims of the prevailing winds.


Yuppies in Florissant, Hazelwood, Maryland Heights, and St. Charles? Lol

As for the BBQ people in this thread...I like it all. KC, Memphis, Texas, St. Louis, Carolina..It's all good.
 
2013-05-07 06:56:45 PM  

hemorrhoidal singularity: show me: Heathen: mjohnson71: Heathen: mjohnson71: Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

//and the barbeque sucks

Woah there. Now you're just trolling.

it isn't trolling when it's the truth

And your problem with St. Louis barbeque is....?

brisket is the only true BBQ, not something that St. Louis does real well IMO...we coo?

You must be from Texas. Austin is nice. The rest...

He's from Vegas. Forgive his abject stupidity.


Vegas now, originally from Houston
 
2013-05-07 07:05:00 PM  

rtaylor92: St. Louis' claim to bbq fame is a particular butcher's cut of spare ribs named after the city (like a New York strip steak) and a ketchupy variant of KC style bbq sauce (sweet tomato based). They don't know from brisket and certainly couldn't begin to identify a burnt end.


I'm glad someone said it.

/There is no such thing as St. Louis style BBQ
//There is no such thing as St. Louis style BBQ
 
2013-05-07 07:22:30 PM  
Is that the giant quarry/landfill thing across I-70 from Earth City?
 
zez
2013-05-07 07:37:47 PM  

MadCat221: Is that the giant quarry/landfill thing across I-70 from Earth City?


no, it's between 70 and the rock road on the other side of earth city. Basically across from the Hussmann plant.

Also, the containment facility "the mound" is a great trailhead for just about any type of cycling you would want to do. MT Biking, Cyclocross, gravel road, roads and hills.
 
2013-05-07 07:40:15 PM  
We need to deregulate the waste industry and let these problems sort themselves out.
 
2013-05-07 07:42:57 PM  
The ground water must be a fright.
 
2013-05-07 07:52:34 PM  

Astorix: The ground water must be a fright.


Good thing we have the confluence of two gigantic rivers outclassed only by the Nile and the Amazon nearby and very good waterworks.
 
zez
2013-05-07 07:58:53 PM  

Astorix: The ground water must be a fright.


You mean all that stuff leaking into the ground water just upstream from the largest brewery in the world?

/that wasn't beechwood aging
 
2013-05-07 08:13:17 PM  
That probably means run for your life.
 
2013-05-07 08:59:08 PM  
life = NULL;
 
ecl
2013-05-07 08:59:59 PM  

zez: Astorix: The ground water must be a fright.

You mean all that stuff leaking into the ground water just upstream from the largest brewery in the world?

/that wasn't beechwood aging


Locals that drink AB get what they deserve.
 
ecl
2013-05-07 09:03:01 PM  

noitsnot: ecl: noitsnot: ISO15693: Molavian: Gyrfalcon: basemetal: Nuclear waste in a land fill?  What are we talking here, some old medical Iodine 131 or a bunch of old smoke detectors, or some really nasty stuff?

Either way, we'll be seeing it on the SyFy Channel next month.

I think this was the second episode of Defiance.

[www.blastr.com image 710x399]

Clearly not St. Louis because there are terrain features taller than a gnat's ass.

St Louis isn't flat you idiot.

This may appease you - I have seen the Piasa Bird:

[img.photobucket.com image 640x480]

Not only that, but I know it's not the original (which was destroyed by a rock quarry I believe).


stevegarufi.com

Kansas.
 
ecl
2013-05-07 09:04:53 PM  
stevegarufi.com
 
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