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(STLToday)   Not News: St. Louis-area landfill smelling particularly bad today. News: Because of underground fires. Fark: "State officials have said the possibility of fires reaching the radioactive materials is remote"   (stltoday.com) divider line 126
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2013-05-07 02:49:33 PM  
At the beginning of TFA: "The stench from the Bridgeton Landfill is especially strong today because of low winds and high barometric pressure, the state department of natural resources reports."

At the end of TFA: "Missouri Attorney General Chris Koster has sued Republic Services on eight charges of violating state environmental laws."

Hmm, something's not quite right here.  I just can't put my finger on it.
 
2013-05-07 03:10:16 PM  
www.genuinewitty.com
 
2013-05-07 03:15:39 PM  
can't the just move the town five miles down the road?
 
2013-05-07 03:49:57 PM  
So we can expect some unholy amalgam of Stan Musial's corpse, the Arch and burnt ends to arise and begin raining radioactive death o'er the land?
 
2013-05-07 04:12:27 PM  
Maybe an above-ground fire could help things out? Or at least incinerate it? Isn't dilution supposed to be the solution to pollution?
 
2013-05-07 04:18:28 PM  
Better pick up your game Centralia, PA underground coal fire, looks like their's a new kid in town.
 
2013-05-07 04:22:07 PM  

Somacandra: Maybe an above-ground fire could help things out? Or at least incinerate it? Isn't dilution supposed to be the solution to pollution?


You just get homœopathic pollution.
 
2013-05-07 04:29:23 PM  
Nuclear waste in a land fill?  What are we talking here, some old medical Iodine 131 or a bunch of old smoke detectors, or some really nasty stuff?
 
2013-05-07 04:37:48 PM  

brap: Better pick up your game Centralia, PA underground coal fire, looks like their's a new kid in town.


I was going to mention Centralia.  Guess I'll just point out your typos instead.
 
2013-05-07 04:39:28 PM  

basemetal: Nuclear waste in a land fill?  What are we talking here, some old medical Iodine 131 or a bunch of old smoke detectors, or some really nasty stuff?


Either way, we'll be seeing it on the SyFy Channel next month.
 
2013-05-07 04:40:00 PM  
Modern landfills are supposed to have runoff-water piping coming out the bottom that can be taken to the sewage plant.  Why not pump carbon dioxide into those to help smother the fire?
 
2013-05-07 04:42:54 PM  
I drive by that (on 70), and this morning it was particularly foul.

As for the radiation, I'm not sure what's stored there, but they did lots of serious research here, so it's probably pretty nasty.

/I can't help but think of Clark Griswold in St. Louis, "Roll 'em up!"
//good advice today
 
2013-05-07 04:43:00 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: So we can expect some unholy amalgam of Stan Musial's corpse, the Arch and burnt ends to arise and begin raining radioactive death o'er the land?


"Musial dominates in World Championship."
 
2013-05-07 04:43:50 PM  
Not the glowing appraisal of the situation officials had hoped for.
 
2013-05-07 04:45:24 PM  
What radioactive materials are we talking about here?  I'm building a time machine and...
 
2013-05-07 04:45:51 PM  
I read this as "underground fries" and wondered wtf kind of oil they were using.
 
2013-05-07 04:47:09 PM  
St. Louis is a landfill. I can't imagine the smell making it any worse.
 
2013-05-07 04:50:03 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: So we can expect some unholy amalgam of Stan Musial's corpse, the Arch and burnt ends to arise and begin raining radioactive death o'er the land?


St. Louis' claim to bbq fame is a particular butcher's cut of spare ribs named after the city (like a New York strip steak) and a ketchupy variant of KC style bbq sauce (sweet tomato based). They don't know from brisket and certainly couldn't begin to identify a burnt end.

/KC native, lives in St. Louis
//I still enjoyed the general thrust of your post and you've been marked as favorite for as long as I can remember
 
2013-05-07 04:50:04 PM  

Gyrfalcon: basemetal: Nuclear waste in a land fill?  What are we talking here, some old medical Iodine 131 or a bunch of old smoke detectors, or some really nasty stuff?

Either way, we'll be seeing it on the SyFy Channel next month.


I think this was the second episode of Defiance.
 
2013-05-07 04:50:31 PM  

Erix: brap: Better pick up your game Centralia, PA underground coal fire, looks like their's a new kid in town.

I was going to mention Centralia.  Guess I'll just point out your typos instead.


Would you believe that type was a wry and intentional metaphor for the sad state of the environment?
 
2013-05-07 04:54:01 PM  
Sounds like this will be...
Nothing but trouble.
 
2013-05-07 04:56:49 PM  

Perducci: Sounds like this will be...
Nothing but trouble.


Is that you, Mr. Bonestripper?
 
M-G
2013-05-07 04:56:59 PM  

basemetal: Nuclear waste in a land fill?  What are we talking here, some old medical Iodine 131 or a bunch of old smoke detectors, or some really nasty stuff?


Nasty stuff.  A company in St. Louis was heavily involved in research and production during the Manhattan Project and beyond.  Many years ago, contaminated soil was illegally dumped at part of this landfill.  But it's a completely different area of the site.

And this fire problem has been going on for several months.  Old news, etc....
 
2013-05-07 04:57:30 PM  

brap: Erix: brap: Better pick up your game Centralia, PA underground coal fire, looks like their's a new kid in town.

I was going to mention Centralia.  Guess I'll just point out your typos instead.

Would you believe that type was a wry and intentional metaphor for the sad state of the environment?


Sure.  What about this one?
 
2013-05-07 04:58:00 PM  
Car_Ramrod

St. Louis is a landfill. I can't imagine the smell making it any worse.

ragefaces.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-05-07 04:58:02 PM  
Some douche labeled the map with "Subsurface Smoldering Event"... FFS
 
2013-05-07 04:59:03 PM  
img197.imageshack.us
 
2013-05-07 04:59:52 PM  

Molavian: Gyrfalcon: basemetal: Nuclear waste in a land fill?  What are we talking here, some old medical Iodine 131 or a bunch of old smoke detectors, or some really nasty stuff?

Either way, we'll be seeing it on the SyFy Channel next month.

I think this was the second episode of Defiance.


www.blastr.com
 
2013-05-07 05:00:03 PM  
Why don't they use their mob connections to get a rocket and blast the garbage into space?

/I know this isn't obscure
 
2013-05-07 05:02:37 PM  

AdamVN1: Sure.  What about this one?


Cute but she's not my typo.

Look at me!  I'm multitasking to the point where I do everything completely ineptly!  WHEEEEEEE!!!!
 
2013-05-07 05:03:45 PM  

AdamVN1: brap: Erix: brap: Better pick up your game Centralia, PA underground coal fire, looks like their's a new kid in town.

I was going to mention Centralia.  Guess I'll just point out your typos instead.

Would you believe that type was a wry and intentional metaphor for the sad state of the environment?

Sure.  What about this one?


I was going to mention that.  Now I've got nothing.
 
2013-05-07 05:04:26 PM  

Car_Ramrod: St. Louis is a landfill. I can't imagine the smell making it any worse.


Yeah, well, CUBS! So There!
 
2013-05-07 05:08:16 PM  

M-G: basemetal: Nuclear waste in a land fill?  What are we talking here, some old medical Iodine 131 or a bunch of old smoke detectors, or some really nasty stuff?

Nasty stuff.  A company in St. Louis was heavily involved in research and production during the Manhattan Project and beyond.  Many years ago, contaminated soil was illegally dumped at part of this landfill.  But it's a completely different area of the site.

And this fire problem has been going on for several months.  Old news, etc....


Yeah, it was Mallinckrodt. They did some nasty shiat, and it should have been handled better, but Japan and shiat.
 
2013-05-07 05:08:18 PM  

Great Janitor: What radioactive materials are we talking about here?  I'm building a time machine and...


There's way better stuff out at the Weldon Spring site.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=38.698523,-90.726535&spn=0.009479,0.0161 36 &t=h&z=16

See that big white thing? It's a huge mound. It's full of all kinds of nasty crap from the Manhattan Project. When they were putting it up they were trying to figure out how to make some warning sign that said "don't dig here, dumbasses" that might be understandable tens of thousands of years into the future.
 
2013-05-07 05:09:22 PM  

brap: AdamVN1: Sure.  What about this one?

Cute but she's not my typo.

Look at me!  I'm multitasking to the point where I do everything completely ineptly!  WHEEEEEEE!!!!


That's really the only way to go through the day!
 
2013-05-07 05:12:35 PM  

akula: Great Janitor: What radioactive materials are we talking about here?  I'm building a time machine and...

There's way better stuff out at the Weldon Spring site.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=38.698523,-90.726535&spn=0.009479,0.0161 36 &t=h&z=16

See that big white thing? It's a huge mound. It's full of all kinds of nasty crap from the Manhattan Project. When they were putting it up they were trying to figure out how to make some warning sign that said "don't dig here, dumbasses" that might be understandable tens of thousands of years into the future.


and they built a high school next to it?  BRILLIANT!!!!
 
2013-05-07 05:14:16 PM  

Car_Ramrod: St. Louis is a landfill. I can't imagine the smell making it any worse.


I think you misspelled the word 'Missouri'. (and/or Illinois.. either would work.)
 
2013-05-07 05:14:55 PM  

akula: Great Janitor: What radioactive materials are we talking about here?  I'm building a time machine and...

There's way better stuff out at the Weldon Spring site.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=38.698523,-90.726535&spn=0.009479,0.0161 36 &t=h&z=16

See that big white thing? It's a huge mound. It's full of all kinds of nasty crap from the Manhattan Project. When they were putting it up they were trying to figure out how to make some warning sign that said "don't dig here, dumbasses" that might be understandable tens of thousands of years into the future.


A big white mound full of radio active materials from the Manhattan Project, and across the street a school.  And people thought I was a bad mayor in Sim City when I build all the schools next the airport.
 
2013-05-07 05:15:12 PM  

kbronsito: can't the just move the town five miles down the road?


Most of Bridgeton was already leveled to make room for an additional runway at Lambert Airport that we don't need. But the Feds paid for it, so meh.
 
2013-05-07 05:16:10 PM  

Erix: AdamVN1: brap: Erix: brap: Better pick up your game Centralia, PA underground coal fire, looks like their's a new kid in town.

I was going to mention Centralia.  Guess I'll just point out your typos instead.

Would you believe that type was a wry and intentional metaphor for the sad state of the environment?

Sure.  What about this one?

I was going to mention that.  Now I've got nothing.



My bad - I thought this was a tag-team match.  I'll tag back out now and go to the time-out corner to consider my shame.
 
ecl
2013-05-07 05:18:24 PM  

rtaylor92: Mr. Coffee Nerves: So we can expect some unholy amalgam of Stan Musial's corpse, the Arch and burnt ends to arise and begin raining radioactive death o'er the land?

St. Louis' claim to bbq fame is a particular butcher's cut of spare ribs named after the city (like a New York strip steak) and a ketchupy variant of KC style bbq sauce (sweet tomato based). They don't know from brisket and certainly couldn't begin to identify a burnt end.

/KC native, lives in St. Louis
//I still enjoyed the general thrust of your post and you've been marked as favorite for as long as I can remember



Yay! More retard overspill from the asshole of the midwest.
 
2013-05-07 05:18:42 PM  

Heathen: and they built a high school next to it?  BRILLIANT!!!!


Great Janitor: A big white mound full of radio active materials from the Manhattan Project, and across the street a school.  And people thought I was a bad mayor in Sim City when I build all the schools next the airport.


That school has been there for the better part of a century. Back when FHHS (I didn't attend there, but to the other HS in the district) was new nobody really understood just how much nasty crap was at that site. Moreover, there used to be WWII vintage buildings out back that POWs were kept in... the district used those up until recently (and might still, I don't know).

My brother did a summer working at that remediation site and his name is on the plaque in the little museum they have there. One day we went out there to look around (you can climb up on the mound, great vantage point up there... it's MUCH safer now than it used to be); the old lady working in the museum thought he was some kind of celebrity.
 
2013-05-07 05:19:01 PM  

Heathen: akula: Great Janitor: What radioactive materials are we talking about here?  I'm building a time machine and...

There's way better stuff out at the Weldon Spring site.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=38.698523,-90.726535&spn=0.009479,0.0161 36 &t=h&z=16

See that big white thing? It's a huge mound. It's full of all kinds of nasty crap from the Manhattan Project. When they were putting it up they were trying to figure out how to make some warning sign that said "don't dig here, dumbasses" that might be understandable tens of thousands of years into the future.

and they built a high school next to it?  BRILLIANT!!!!


Hey, the land was cheap as shiat. And it's "sealed in a sarcophagus" so it's no more dangerous than Chernobyl.

/Both locations are about 8 miles from my house.
 
2013-05-07 05:20:27 PM  
Did state officials say this while backing slowly out of the room, glancing towards their packed cars?
 
2013-05-07 05:25:49 PM  

akula: (I didn't attend there, but to the other HS in the district)


Did you go to North? My kids went to North. Ages 20 thru 26. Last name Billet.
 
2013-05-07 05:27:19 PM  
Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

/but Cardinals
//and the barbeque sucks
 
2013-05-07 05:28:59 PM  
Oh well, after it explodes we'll rename it Defiance.
 
2013-05-07 05:29:05 PM  

ISO15693: Molavian: Gyrfalcon: basemetal: Nuclear waste in a land fill?  What are we talking here, some old medical Iodine 131 or a bunch of old smoke detectors, or some really nasty stuff?

Either way, we'll be seeing it on the SyFy Channel next month.

I think this was the second episode of Defiance.

[www.blastr.com image 710x399]


Clearly not St. Louis because there are terrain features taller than a gnat's ass.
 
2013-05-07 05:30:39 PM  

Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

/but Cardinals
//and the barbeque sucks


Woah there. Now you're just trolling.
 
2013-05-07 05:31:25 PM  

show me: akula: (I didn't attend there, but to the other HS in the district)

Did you go to North? My kids went to North. Ages 20 thru 26. Last name Billet.


Yup, FHN. But I'm way older than your kids. I'm 35 (class of '95).
 
ecl
2013-05-07 05:32:30 PM  

noitsnot: ISO15693: Molavian: Gyrfalcon: basemetal: Nuclear waste in a land fill?  What are we talking here, some old medical Iodine 131 or a bunch of old smoke detectors, or some really nasty stuff?

Either way, we'll be seeing it on the SyFy Channel next month.

I think this was the second episode of Defiance.

[www.blastr.com image 710x399]

Clearly not St. Louis because there are terrain features taller than a gnat's ass.


St Louis isn't flat you idiot.
 
2013-05-07 05:32:38 PM  

mjohnson71: Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

//and the barbeque sucks

Woah there. Now you're just trolling.


it isn't trolling when it's the truth
 
2013-05-07 05:33:06 PM  

SpdrJay: Oh well, after it explodes we'll rename it Defiance.


Too late. There's already a town named that just down the road.
 
2013-05-07 05:35:03 PM  

GoldSpider: Perducci: Sounds like this will be...
Nothing but trouble.

Is that you, Mr. Bonestripper?


You sound like a banker!
 
2013-05-07 05:36:43 PM  
We've got a few of these sites in the area. Mainly from Mallinckrodt during the Manhattan Project. There's a few in the airport area listed here:

http://www.mvs.usace.army.mil/Missions/CentersofExpertise/FormerlyUt il izedSitesRemedialActionProgram.aspx

Google Map of the SLAPS site (which I used to drive by quite a bit):  https://local.google.com/?ll=38.759668,-90.35675&spn=0.005437,0.00825 6 &t=h&z=18&iwloc=lyrftr:m,4907595101238446798,38.766097,-90.444345

Weldon Spring (mentioned above, the giant white pile) is mainly TNT and other explosives, and not quite as much as uranium related items as SLAPS.

The site in Bridgeton (mentioned in this article), it appears that some of the covering dirt from the landfill came from the SLAPS area, which is only a few miles away.
 
2013-05-07 05:36:51 PM  

Heathen: mjohnson71: Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

//and the barbeque sucks

Woah there. Now you're just trolling.

it isn't trolling when it's the truth


And your problem with St. Louis barbeque is....?
 
2013-05-07 05:37:21 PM  

Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

/but Cardinals
//and the barbeque sucks


Just stay in your cow town on your side of the state. We'll be fine without you. And I dare you to walk around after dark East of Paseo street. Talk about a hell hole.
 
2013-05-07 05:37:59 PM  

show me: kbronsito: can't the just move the town five miles down the road?

Most of Bridgeton was already leveled to make room for an additional runway at Lambert Airport that we don't need. But the Feds paid for it, so meh.


I flew over that on approach to STL once. Kinda eerie seeing all of the cul-de-sacs with no houses around them and such.
That whole runway thing was kinda sad, really. Planned before TWA went bust and they were actually generating more traffic every year, then funded after AA acquired TWA but planned to keep a hub, and construction finally started 6 weeks before 9/11. So yeah, in hindsight, not necessary (and rarely even used) but going on the data they had at the time, and inertia in government projects being what it is, I can see how that all came to pass.
 
2013-05-07 05:38:38 PM  

GoldSpider: Perducci: Sounds like this will be...
Nothing but trouble.

Is that you, Mr. Bonestripper?


Haven't seem him in the thread... lol
 
2013-05-07 05:39:04 PM  
Throw some pig on the smoldering stench and use the Chernoyl BBQ sauce.

www.dreadedthread.com


//RealTexas BBQ doesn't use pig
 
2013-05-07 05:43:30 PM  
OK, OK, OK, we admit, our methods of disposing of nuclear waste in the past weren't always the best.  But you have our word for it, citizen, that our newest, latest, modern, scientific techniques ensure that it is virtually impossible for anything to go wrong with nuclear waste storage.

Modern nuclear waste storage is truly clean, cheap and safe.

/truly
 
2013-05-07 05:43:45 PM  

show me: SpdrJay: Oh well, after it explodes we'll rename it Defiance.

Too late. There's already a town named that just down the road.


Are there lots of "aliens" with exotic contact lenses there?
 
2013-05-07 05:43:52 PM  
You know who else downplayed the risk of radiation exposure during a crisis?
 
2013-05-07 05:44:07 PM  

buzzcut73: show me: kbronsito: can't the just move the town five miles down the road?

Most of Bridgeton was already leveled to make room for an additional runway at Lambert Airport that we don't need. But the Feds paid for it, so meh.

I flew over that on approach to STL once. Kinda eerie seeing all of the cul-de-sacs with no houses around them and such.
That whole runway thing was kinda sad, really. Planned before TWA went bust and they were actually generating more traffic every year, then funded after AA acquired TWA but planned to keep a hub, and construction finally started 6 weeks before 9/11. So yeah, in hindsight, not necessary (and rarely even used) but going on the data they had at the time, and inertia in government projects being what it is, I can see how that all came to pass.


Yes, it was definitely a casualty of bad timing, bad economy, and Carl farking Icann driving TWA into the ground in the '80s. Did you know Lambert was the 7th busiest airport in the US before TWA got raped?
 
2013-05-07 05:45:16 PM  

SpdrJay: show me: SpdrJay: Oh well, after it explodes we'll rename it Defiance.

Too late. There's already a town named that just down the road.

Are there lots of "aliens" with exotic contact lenses there?


Just a couple of biker bars.
 
2013-05-07 05:47:24 PM  

show me: buzzcut73: show me: kbronsito: can't the just move the town five miles down the road?

Most of Bridgeton was already leveled to make room for an additional runway at Lambert Airport that we don't need. But the Feds paid for it, so meh.

I flew over that on approach to STL once. Kinda eerie seeing all of the cul-de-sacs with no houses around them and such.
That whole runway thing was kinda sad, really. Planned before TWA went bust and they were actually generating more traffic every year, then funded after AA acquired TWA but planned to keep a hub, and construction finally started 6 weeks before 9/11. So yeah, in hindsight, not necessary (and rarely even used) but going on the data they had at the time, and inertia in government projects being what it is, I can see how that all came to pass.

Yes, it was definitely a casualty of bad timing, bad economy, and Carl farking Icann driving TWA into the ground in the '80s. Did you know Lambert was the 7th busiest airport in the US before TWA got raped?


Its sad to fly in/out of Lambert now and remember what sort of madhouse that place was in the 80's and 90's.

/Fark Carl Icahn
//AND American Airlines
 
2013-05-07 05:48:41 PM  

mjohnson71: Heathen: mjohnson71: Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

//and the barbeque sucks

Woah there. Now you're just trolling.

it isn't trolling when it's the truth

And your problem with St. Louis barbeque is....?


brisket is the only true BBQ, not something that St. Louis does real well IMO...we coo?
 
2013-05-07 05:48:55 PM  

SpdrJay: show me: SpdrJay: Oh well, after it explodes we'll rename it Defiance.

Too late. There's already a town named that just down the road.

Are there lots of "aliens" with exotic contact lenses there?


No, just a bunch of bikers and tourists on their way to Wine Country.

CSB: France's grape vines were devastated years ago and Missouri shipped a bunch of replacement ones to save their vineyards.
 
zez
2013-05-07 05:49:32 PM  

SpdrJay: Oh well, after it explodes we'll rename it Defiance.


Defiance is actually just a few miles down the road
 
2013-05-07 05:50:23 PM  

ecl: noitsnot: ISO15693: Molavian: Gyrfalcon: basemetal: Nuclear waste in a land fill?  What are we talking here, some old medical Iodine 131 or a bunch of old smoke detectors, or some really nasty stuff?

Either way, we'll be seeing it on the SyFy Channel next month.

I think this was the second episode of Defiance.

[www.blastr.com image 710x399]

Clearly not St. Louis because there are terrain features taller than a gnat's ass.

St Louis isn't flat you idiot.


The whole midwest is flat, my friend. Some bluffs just don't cut it.
 
2013-05-07 05:51:01 PM  

Heathen: mjohnson71: Heathen: mjohnson71: Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

//and the barbeque sucks

Woah there. Now you're just trolling.

it isn't trolling when it's the truth

And your problem with St. Louis barbeque is....?

brisket is the only true BBQ, not something that St. Louis does real well IMO...we coo?


You must be from Texas. Austin is nice. The rest...
 
2013-05-07 05:53:57 PM  
Has the smell reached the level "New Jersey" yet?
 
2013-05-07 05:56:17 PM  

show me: Heathen: mjohnson71: Heathen: mjohnson71: Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

//and the barbeque sucks

Woah there. Now you're just trolling.

it isn't trolling when it's the truth

And your problem with St. Louis barbeque is....?

brisket is the only true BBQ, not something that St. Louis does real well IMO...we coo?

You must be from Texas. Austin is nice. The rest...


agreed, Austin is the only place in TX I would freely live.  Well there are many small towns that are wonderful but I assume you are only talking about major cities
 
2013-05-07 05:59:10 PM  

noitsnot: The whole midwest is flat, my friend. Some bluffs just don't cut it.


Some parts of Indiana actually experience mild elevation change (Bloomington mostly) but yeah, I decided when driving through that Iowa, Illinoise, Indiana, and Ohio are all actually the same state.
 
2013-05-07 05:59:49 PM  
Also my fingers move faster than my brain's spellchecker. My bad.
 
2013-05-07 06:01:38 PM  

Car_Ramrod: St. Louis is a landfill. I can't imagine the smell making it any worse.


You were involved in Chicago politics. You weren't just in a cesspool, you were actively contributing to it. St Louis stink can't even begin to compare to your foul stench....
 
2013-05-07 06:03:16 PM  
content6.flixster.com
We were forced to become what you drove through today; a burnt out coal field and the biggest icebox graveyard this side of the Ohio foundry belt! And that's why I *never* let a banker go!
 
2013-05-07 06:03:22 PM  

ladyfortuna: Also my fingers move faster than my brain's spellchecker. My bad.


Actually, that is the correct way to spell Illinoise. Another acceptable one is Ill-Annoy.
 
2013-05-07 06:13:13 PM  

show me: Yeah, well, CUBS! So There!


eff you.....


/we'll get them next season.


img692.imageshack.us
 
2013-05-07 06:13:25 PM  

noitsnot: The whole midwest is flat, my friend.


You can watch your dog run away for three days.
 
2013-05-07 06:13:48 PM  

show me: Heathen: mjohnson71: Heathen: mjohnson71: Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

//and the barbeque sucks

Woah there. Now you're just trolling.

it isn't trolling when it's the truth

And your problem with St. Louis barbeque is....?

brisket is the only true BBQ, not something that St. Louis does real well IMO...we coo?

You must be from Texas. Austin is nice. The rest...


He's from Vegas. Forgive his abject stupidity.
 
2013-05-07 06:14:11 PM  

ecl: noitsnot: ISO15693: Molavian: Gyrfalcon: basemetal: Nuclear waste in a land fill?  What are we talking here, some old medical Iodine 131 or a bunch of old smoke detectors, or some really nasty stuff?

Either way, we'll be seeing it on the SyFy Channel next month.

I think this was the second episode of Defiance.

[www.blastr.com image 710x399]

Clearly not St. Louis because there are terrain features taller than a gnat's ass.

St Louis isn't flat you idiot.


This may appease you - I have seen the Piasa Bird:

img.photobucket.com

Not only that, but I know it's not the original (which was destroyed by a rock quarry I believe).
 
2013-05-07 06:28:47 PM  
Heathen:  brisket is the only true BBQ, not something that St. Louis does real well IMO...we coo?

Go to Pappy's (get there early - like no later than 2) and try the brisket with a side of sweet potato fries & fried corn on the cobb.  Heaven.  And it's only $7.75 for a sandwich or $11.99 for a platter!

If you're in the mood, go next door to Buffalo Brewing for a quick pint.

If you've already been, then your handle is appropriate.  ;-)
 
2013-05-07 06:30:58 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: So we can expect some unholy amalgam of Stan Musial's corpse, the Arch and burnt ends to arise and begin raining radioactive death o'er the land?


Nah, but a whole lot of yuppie puppies out in the concrete hell that is St. Charles, Florissant, Hazelwood, and Maryland Heights MO might have to be aborted or suffer birth defects if that happens and the whims of the prevailing winds.
 
2013-05-07 06:43:25 PM  

basemetal: Nuclear waste in a land fill?  What are we talking here, some old medical Iodine 131 or a bunch of old smoke detectors, or some really nasty stuff?


http://westlakelandfill.com/History.aspx

Moderately nasty.  Basically depleted uranium in the chemicals used to dissolve/precipitate it.  Nothing trans-Uranic nor any of the really nasty radioactive daughter products of fission.  Somewhere along the level of nasty of some of the uranium-mine tailings out in Indian Country.
 
2013-05-07 06:45:49 PM  

Kibbler: OK, OK, OK, we admit, our methods of disposing of nuclear waste in the past weren't always the best.  But you have our word for it, citizen, that our newest, latest, modern, scientific techniques ensure that it is virtually impossible for anything to go wrong with nuclear waste storage.

Modern nuclear waste storage is truly clean, cheap and safe.

/truly


i.imgur.com
Courtesy of Disney
 
2013-05-07 06:48:14 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Mr. Coffee Nerves: So we can expect some unholy amalgam of Stan Musial's corpse, the Arch and burnt ends to arise and begin raining radioactive death o'er the land?

Nah, but a whole lot of yuppie puppies out in the concrete hell that is St. Charles, Florissant, Hazelwood, and Maryland Heights MO might have to be aborted or suffer birth defects if that happens and the whims of the prevailing winds.


Yuppies in Florissant, Hazelwood, Maryland Heights, and St. Charles? Lol

As for the BBQ people in this thread...I like it all. KC, Memphis, Texas, St. Louis, Carolina..It's all good.
 
2013-05-07 06:56:45 PM  

hemorrhoidal singularity: show me: Heathen: mjohnson71: Heathen: mjohnson71: Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

//and the barbeque sucks

Woah there. Now you're just trolling.

it isn't trolling when it's the truth

And your problem with St. Louis barbeque is....?

brisket is the only true BBQ, not something that St. Louis does real well IMO...we coo?

You must be from Texas. Austin is nice. The rest...

He's from Vegas. Forgive his abject stupidity.


Vegas now, originally from Houston
 
2013-05-07 07:05:00 PM  

rtaylor92: St. Louis' claim to bbq fame is a particular butcher's cut of spare ribs named after the city (like a New York strip steak) and a ketchupy variant of KC style bbq sauce (sweet tomato based). They don't know from brisket and certainly couldn't begin to identify a burnt end.


I'm glad someone said it.

/There is no such thing as St. Louis style BBQ
//There is no such thing as St. Louis style BBQ
 
2013-05-07 07:22:30 PM  
Is that the giant quarry/landfill thing across I-70 from Earth City?
 
zez
2013-05-07 07:37:47 PM  

MadCat221: Is that the giant quarry/landfill thing across I-70 from Earth City?


no, it's between 70 and the rock road on the other side of earth city. Basically across from the Hussmann plant.

Also, the containment facility "the mound" is a great trailhead for just about any type of cycling you would want to do. MT Biking, Cyclocross, gravel road, roads and hills.
 
2013-05-07 07:40:15 PM  
We need to deregulate the waste industry and let these problems sort themselves out.
 
2013-05-07 07:42:57 PM  
The ground water must be a fright.
 
2013-05-07 07:52:34 PM  

Astorix: The ground water must be a fright.


Good thing we have the confluence of two gigantic rivers outclassed only by the Nile and the Amazon nearby and very good waterworks.
 
zez
2013-05-07 07:58:53 PM  

Astorix: The ground water must be a fright.


You mean all that stuff leaking into the ground water just upstream from the largest brewery in the world?

/that wasn't beechwood aging
 
2013-05-07 08:13:17 PM  
That probably means run for your life.
 
2013-05-07 08:59:08 PM  
life = NULL;
 
ecl
2013-05-07 08:59:59 PM  

zez: Astorix: The ground water must be a fright.

You mean all that stuff leaking into the ground water just upstream from the largest brewery in the world?

/that wasn't beechwood aging


Locals that drink AB get what they deserve.
 
ecl
2013-05-07 09:03:01 PM  

noitsnot: ecl: noitsnot: ISO15693: Molavian: Gyrfalcon: basemetal: Nuclear waste in a land fill?  What are we talking here, some old medical Iodine 131 or a bunch of old smoke detectors, or some really nasty stuff?

Either way, we'll be seeing it on the SyFy Channel next month.

I think this was the second episode of Defiance.

[www.blastr.com image 710x399]

Clearly not St. Louis because there are terrain features taller than a gnat's ass.

St Louis isn't flat you idiot.

This may appease you - I have seen the Piasa Bird:

[img.photobucket.com image 640x480]

Not only that, but I know it's not the original (which was destroyed by a rock quarry I believe).


stevegarufi.com

Kansas.
 
ecl
2013-05-07 09:04:53 PM  
stevegarufi.com
 
2013-05-07 09:10:42 PM  

MadCat221: Astorix: The ground water must be a fright.

Good thing we have the confluence of two gigantic rivers outclassed only by the Nile and the Amazon nearby and very good waterworks.


And it's too bad at least one of those rivers gets most of its water drained away by the jackasses up north.
 
2013-05-07 09:14:19 PM  

rnatalie: We were forced to become what you drove through today; a burnt out coal field and the biggest icebox graveyard this side of the Ohio foundry belt! And that's why I *never* let a banker go!


The Honorable Reeve Valkenheiser I presume.
 
2013-05-07 09:20:32 PM  

Kibbler: OK, OK, OK, we admit, our methods of disposing of nuclear waste in the past weren't always the best.  But you have our word for it, citizen, that our newest, latest, modern, scientific techniques ensure that it is virtually impossible for anything to go wrong with nuclear waste storage.

Modern nuclear waste storage is truly clean, cheap and safe.

/truly


Yes. We had it developed by

www.halolz.com

Top. Men.
 
2013-05-07 09:28:35 PM  

ecl: [stevegarufi.com image 850x530]


Pointing out that you aren't Kansas - that doesn't buy you much ;)

(Plus - I think that picture is rather pretty)
 
2013-05-07 09:40:32 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-05-07 09:52:12 PM  

noitsnot: ecl: [stevegarufi.com image 850x530]

Pointing out that you aren't Kansas - that doesn't buy you much ;)

(Plus - I think that picture is rather pretty)


Here's what I'm talking about:

www.google.com
That's not flat.
 
2013-05-07 10:13:29 PM  

Heathen: mjohnson71: Heathen: mjohnson71: Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

//and the barbeque sucks

Woah there. Now you're just trolling.

it isn't trolling when it's the truth

And your problem with St. Louis barbeque is....?

brisket is the only true BBQ, not something that St. Louis does real well IMO...we coo?


Don't give that guy a mile, dammit.

They're good at baseball. That's it. Not as good at barbeque, sorry.
 
zez
2013-05-07 10:48:13 PM  

MadCat221: Astorix: The ground water must be a fright.

Good thing we have the confluence of two gigantic rivers outclassed only by the Nile and the Amazon nearby and very good waterworks.


Yeah, good thing...

stream2.cma.gov.cn
 
2013-05-07 10:59:58 PM  
Having spent the better part of the day driving around East St Louis, I have to say the area might be improved by heavily irradiating it.

Except for the nicer area down the road where the hotel is. I've spent more nights here in the past two months than in my own home.
 
2013-05-07 11:08:08 PM  

Heathen: akula: Great Janitor: What radioactive materials are we talking about here?  I'm building a time machine and...

There's way better stuff out at the Weldon Spring site.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=38.698523,-90.726535&spn=0.009479,0.0161 36 &t=h&z=16

See that big white thing? It's a huge mound. It's full of all kinds of nasty crap from the Manhattan Project. When they were putting it up they were trying to figure out how to make some warning sign that said "don't dig here, dumbasses" that might be understandable tens of thousands of years into the future.

and they built a high school next to it?  BRILLIANT!!!!


How else are we supposed to breed Supermutants?
 
2013-05-07 11:13:41 PM  

Private_Citizen: I drive by that (on 70), and this morning it was particularly foul.

As for the radiation, I'm not sure what's stored there, but they did lots of serious research here, so it's probably pretty nasty.

/I can't help but think of Clark Griswold in St. Louis, "Roll 'em up!"
//good advice today


Same here.

The smell seems to be getting worse and worse. I can't figure out how people who live around it can put up with it.
 
2013-05-07 11:22:01 PM  

mjohnson71: Its sad to fly in/out of Lambert now and remember what sort of madhouse that place was in the 80's and 90's.


Pittsburgh is even more depressing. They built a new terminal in the 1990's that's even bigger than Lambert in the same anticipation of growing air traffic. And it did get about a decade of good use before US Airways decided to rape Pittsburgh.

Now half the airport is deserted, some of the shops have closed and they've boarded up the concourses at the halfway point.
 
2013-05-07 11:22:55 PM  

akula: Great Janitor: What radioactive materials are we talking about here?  I'm building a time machine and...

There's way better stuff out at the Weldon Spring site.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=38.698523,-90.726535&spn=0.009479,0.0161 36 &t=h&z=16

See that big white thing? It's a huge mound. It's full of all kinds of nasty crap from the Manhattan Project. When they were putting it up they were trying to figure out how to make some warning sign that said "don't dig here, dumbasses" that might be understandable tens of thousands of years into the future.


The Weldon Spring stuff is similar (Uranium extraction wastes, nothing post-reactor).  But, you're leaving out the best part.  You can go climb that mound!  That's right... it's advertised for the kiddies as the "Nuclear Waste Adventure Trail" (totally not kidding), and there's a little museum by it.

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/images/mo/MOWELnukesite_dhaes e. jpg
 
2013-05-07 11:50:38 PM  
Link is farked.  The radiation must have spread.
 
2013-05-08 12:41:38 AM  
It got out

Link dead
 
2013-05-08 12:48:51 AM  

Mrtraveler01: mjohnson71: Its sad to fly in/out of Lambert now and remember what sort of madhouse that place was in the 80's and 90's.

Pittsburgh is even more depressing. They built a new terminal in the 1990's that's even bigger than Lambert in the same anticipation of growing air traffic. And it did get about a decade of good use before US Airways decided to rape Pittsburgh.

Now half the airport is deserted, some of the shops have closed and they've boarded up the concourses at the halfway point.


St Louis is in a similar situation. D concourse, at least last I knew, was completely boarded off, so you can't walk from the old terminal to the east terminal anymore. It used to be gates full of passengers. C isn't much better with all of the American cuts...there are a few shops remaining but it was pretty much deserted last time I was there (which was before the tornado hit it, so I'm not sure what's going on with C nowadays)
 
2013-05-08 01:10:35 AM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: noitsnot: The whole midwest is flat, my friend.

You can watch your dog run away for three days.


If you stand on a step ladder and look to the horizon, you can see the back of your head.
 
2013-05-08 01:35:40 AM  

mjohnson71: show me: buzzcut73: show me: kbronsito: can't the just move the town five miles down the road?

Most of Bridgeton was already leveled to make room for an additional runway at Lambert Airport that we don't need. But the Feds paid for it, so meh.

I flew over that on approach to STL once. Kinda eerie seeing all of the cul-de-sacs with no houses around them and such.
That whole runway thing was kinda sad, really. Planned before TWA went bust and they were actually generating more traffic every year, then funded after AA acquired TWA but planned to keep a hub, and construction finally started 6 weeks before 9/11. So yeah, in hindsight, not necessary (and rarely even used) but going on the data they had at the time, and inertia in government projects being what it is, I can see how that all came to pass.

Yes, it was definitely a casualty of bad timing, bad economy, and Carl farking Icann driving TWA into the ground in the '80s. Did you know Lambert was the 7th busiest airport in the US before TWA got raped?

Its sad to fly in/out of Lambert now and remember what sort of madhouse that place was in the 80's and 90's.

/Fark Carl Icahn
//AND American Airlines


Don't forget all the lawsuits brought by the residents of Bridgeton that delayed the project by 15+ years.
 
2013-05-08 07:43:42 AM  

Private_Citizen: I drive by that (on 70), and this morning it was particularly foul.

As for the radiation, I'm not sure what's stored there, but they did lots of serious research here, so it's probably pretty nasty.

/I can't help but think of Clark Griswold in St. Louis, "Roll 'em up!"
//good advice today



1.bp.blogspot.com

/Homer: Hehe the joke's on them! If there is a meltdown, there won't be any power for the sign!
 
2013-05-08 08:54:49 AM  

maglinger: Link is farked.  The radiation must have spread.


well something strange is going on in the Lou...

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-08 09:13:23 AM  

rnatalie: [content6.flixster.com image 360x270]
We were forced to become what you drove through today; a burnt out coal field and the biggest icebox graveyard this side of the Ohio foundry belt! And that's why I *never* let a banker go!


Is it just me, or did he have a penis for a nose?
 
2013-05-08 10:59:15 AM  

buzzcut73: St Louis is in a similar situation. D concourse, at least last I knew, was completely boarded off, so you can't walk from the old terminal to the east terminal anymore. It used to be gates full of passengers. C isn't much better with all of the American cuts...there are a few shops remaining but it was pretty much deserted last time I was there (which was before the tornado hit it, so I'm not sure what's going on with C nowadays)


I was through there last September, and the tornado damage still hadn't been repaired. Like "plywood on the windows" not repaired, which I thought was insane.

Of course, this is why airlines are doing such booming business these days. They charge more for tickets, fly to fewer places, cause more delays, and provide worse service/amenities. No wonder they're profitable beyond belief and have basically eliminated all other forms of long-distance travel.
 
2013-05-08 12:23:24 PM  

Mark Ratner: Slaves2Darkness: Mr. Coffee Nerves: So we can expect some unholy amalgam of Stan Musial's corpse, the Arch and burnt ends to arise and begin raining radioactive death o'er the land?

Nah, but a whole lot of yuppie puppies out in the concrete hell that is St. Charles, Florissant, Hazelwood, and Maryland Heights MO might have to be aborted or suffer birth defects if that happens and the whims of the prevailing winds.

Yuppies in Florissant, Hazelwood, Maryland Heights, and St. Charles? Lol

As for the BBQ people in this thread...I like it all. KC, Memphis, Texas, St. Louis, Carolina..It's all good.


Give him a break. He's in St Petersburg FL, and his BINGO tournament was cancelled last minute...
 
2013-05-08 12:24:41 PM  

Heathen: hemorrhoidal singularity: show me: Heathen: mjohnson71: Heathen: mjohnson71: Marine1: Shiat, just when I think that city can't become any more of a hell hole than it already is... they always seem to find a way to make it worse.

//and the barbeque sucks

Woah there. Now you're just trolling.

it isn't trolling when it's the truth

And your problem with St. Louis barbeque is....?

brisket is the only true BBQ, not something that St. Louis does real well IMO...we coo?

You must be from Texas. Austin is nice. The rest...

He's from Vegas. Forgive his abject stupidity.

Vegas now, originally from Houston


Out of the frying pan, into the fire...
 
2013-05-08 12:35:00 PM  
 Smells like chickens coming home to roost.

Hypnozombie
 
2013-05-08 03:49:43 PM  

phyrkrakr: No wonder they're profitable beyond belief and have basically eliminated all other forms of long-distance travel


I am very thankful I got my dad's inclination to enjoy driving (mostly). The last time I flew sucked and I hope I can avoid ever getting on a plane again since it's just gotten worse since then. However, getting out to see my west coast relatives basically doesn't happen due to the time it takes =/
 
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