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(The Atlantic Wire)   CNN, showcasing the sort of no-nonsense journalism that continues to earn the trust of cable news viewers, airs a split-screen remote interview between two pundits who are actually in the same parking lot   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 87
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2013-05-07 02:47:52 PM
Holy shiat that's hilarious.
 
2013-05-07 02:53:46 PM
Wouldn't that cost more money?
 
2013-05-07 02:56:17 PM

blatz514: Wouldn't that cost more money?


As a matter of fact, it would, but facts have no business in cable news.
 
2013-05-07 02:57:35 PM
Why the hell were they in Phoenix?
 
2013-05-07 02:58:25 PM
I'm not a cameraman or anything, but I do believe that the more people you have in a shot, the more difficult it gets. It's probably easier to do it this way, even if it looks particularly stupid. And it lets them break away more quickly into separate content. It also decreases the likelihood that two prancing sacks of egotistical buffoonery will attempt to one-up each other in subtle physical ways, such as edging each other out of the shot.

Although I completely support mocking CNN in any and all forms and so none of this should be interpreted as anything suggesting that shouldn't be done here.
 
2013-05-07 02:59:04 PM
Yeah, news outlets pull this sh*t all the time. Sometimes they have people on split screen that are in the same studio, sometimes sitting at the same desk.
 
2013-05-07 02:59:25 PM
Remember the time when CNN actually stood for quality news?

Well, neither do I, but still...
 
2013-05-07 03:07:52 PM

moothemagiccow: Why the hell were they in Phoenix?


Because of this fine mess...

a.abcnews.com
 
2013-05-07 03:36:36 PM
Even worse, one of the cameras was on Nancy Grace.
 
2013-05-07 03:46:25 PM

blatz514: Wouldn't that cost more money?


Well yes, but who cares - your cable bill is going up next month again anyways.  You'll pay for it!
 
2013-05-07 03:46:39 PM
FINALLY!!! the definition of "stupid is as stupid does"!!!
 
2013-05-07 03:47:06 PM
To be fair, they were separated by a set of traffic cones.
 
2013-05-07 03:47:08 PM

Pocket Ninja: I'm not a cameraman or anything, but I do believe that the more people you have in a shot, the more difficult it gets. It's probably easier to do it this way, even if it looks particularly stupid. And it lets them break away more quickly into separate content. It also decreases the likelihood that two prancing sacks of egotistical buffoonery will attempt to one-up each other in subtle physical ways, such as edging each other out of the shot.

Although I completely support mocking CNN in any and all forms and so none of this should be interpreted as anything suggesting that shouldn't be done here.



I more or less came here to say this...  Although I was going to suggest they didn't want to take a chance that one would take a swing at the other.
 
2013-05-07 03:48:12 PM
Ashleigh Banfield is the whitebread naming equivalent of Shaneequa Jackson or Cletus Spackler.
 
2013-05-07 03:48:21 PM
i.imgur.com

'Get out of the lot!  The remote is coming in from five spaces down!!'
 
2013-05-07 03:49:09 PM
Still not this funny.
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I bet it was a union deal. Two crews can't shoot one reporters.
 
2013-05-07 03:49:45 PM
Ted I am begging you Please buy CNN back and fix this shiat.
 
2013-05-07 03:50:50 PM

Walker: Yeah, news outlets pull this sh*t all the time. Sometimes they have people on split screen that are in the same studio, sometimes sitting at the same desk.


A local station does their mobile newsroom shots from their own parking lot fairly often.
 
2013-05-07 03:50:50 PM
Starting to make Fox look professional.
 
2013-05-07 03:51:12 PM

cman: Remember the time when CNN actually stood for quality news?

Well, neither do I, but still...


Sure, 1991. Start of the first Gulf War. It made people like Wolf Blitzer and Bernard Shaw household names.

Granted, it was 22 years ago, but there was a time when CNN was the gold standard of news coverage.
 
2013-05-07 03:53:07 PM
ObTw, Nancy Grace's personality could have been on both cameras at once. Hate that shrew.
 
2013-05-07 03:55:07 PM

Butterfinger: ObTw, Nancy Grace's personality could have been on both cameras at once. Hate that shrew.


They had to do a split screen because in a single shot nothing would appear on camera but Nancy Grace's ego.
 
2013-05-07 03:55:44 PM

Uzzah: cman: Remember the time when CNN actually stood for quality news?

Well, neither do I, but still...

Sure, 1991. Start of the first Gulf War. It made people like Wolf Blitzer and Bernard Shaw household names.

Granted, it was 22 years ago, but there was a time when CNN was the gold standard of news coverage.


Wasn't it a running joke that they were so reliable that Saddam Hussein was watching it to know what was going on?
 
2013-05-07 03:56:08 PM

Walker: Yeah, news outlets pull this sh*t all the time. Sometimes they have people on split screen that are in the same studio, sometimes sitting at the same desk.


Oh really now??
cdn1.screenrant.com

"Let's go to Phil in the Kfuk newsroom for more, Phil?"

/"The Newsroom" is the oldest trick in local news. Its actually on the other side of the studio, usually.
 
2013-05-07 03:56:43 PM

moothemagiccow: Why the hell were they in Phoenix?


The current TV hyped criminal trial that you could easily not know anything about if you don't watch cable news, or be able to talk about for hours on end if you watch Headline News all the time.
 
2013-05-07 03:57:22 PM

vudukungfu: Starting to make Fox look professional.


Came here to say basically this.

No more Boston Bombers.  No more Jodi Arias, Amanda Knox, Casey Anthony.  There are other (and more important) things going on in the word.  And who the fark cares about Jodi Arias, anyway?  Dude stuck his dick in crazy one too many times, and was too stupid to figure it out on his own.

Uzzah: cman: Remember the time when CNN actually stood for quality news?

Well, neither do I, but still...

Sure, 1991. Start of the first Gulf War. It made people like Wolf Blitzer and Bernard Shaw household names.

Granted, it was 22 years ago, but there was a time when CNN was the gold standard of news coverage.


Makes Don Henley look more and more like a genius.  That song was written for Nancy Grace.
 
2013-05-07 03:57:48 PM
It's possible the producer had no idea this was about to happen. 2 crews. 2 feeds. 2 networks. Mixed into split screen thousands of miles away.
 
2013-05-07 03:58:01 PM
Looking forward to seeing what The Daily Show will do with this.
 
jvl
2013-05-07 03:59:12 PM
I see nothing amiss.

They had other remote guests on using split screen. Yes, two of the participants are in the same parking lot.  The cameraman/director have to make a decision: do we put the two together and make things look stupid in split screen, or do we use two camera even though they are in the same parking lot.
 
2013-05-07 03:59:32 PM
Isn't Nancy Grace on CNN subsidiaries (HLN and CourtTV).  I would assume that this something to do with different production and programing.  I recall their coverage of Boston had Wolf Blitzer and Erin Burnett on a single camera. That being said, it's still worth a chuckle.
 
2013-05-07 04:00:04 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Still not this funny.
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I bet it was a union deal. Two crews can't shoot one reporters.


Simpler than that. Most of their air time was probably talking to their separate network feeds (CNN and HLN), and it was easier to crossfeed one video to do a remote than wrestle with a new microphone.

This is actually an indicator of how cheap video feeds have become. Running a single remote video used to be a challenge. Now they've popped up at least five feeds for one event... even if one or two were temporarily across the parking lot.

/parking lot owner got paid without having to actually deal with a bunch of parkers
 
2013-05-07 04:05:36 PM
I have no problem with this.

If CNN had made claims about their relative locations that were false I would have a problem. But I can see why this was easier to do than getting them together for a single shot when they were there independently.
 
2013-05-07 04:07:33 PM

davidphogan: A local station does their mobile newsroom shots from their own parking lot fairly often.


This. I used to work for a radio station that was in the same building as the associated TV station - often on my way in or out would see the news crew "on location"...at the end of the driveway, with the city in the background. Sometimes they'd go the extra 50 yards to the end of the street...
 
2013-05-07 04:08:27 PM
I miss these guys:

www.davidsarnoff.org

/nothin' but the news
 
2013-05-07 04:11:46 PM
I'm sure they were formidable opponents.
 
2013-05-07 04:14:27 PM
these 'journalists' probably have contracts that specify that they get their own camera at all times - even if they are sitting right next to each other.  Oh, the huge-vanity!
 
2013-05-07 04:18:37 PM

Arkanaut: I'm sure they were formidable opponents.


cdn.crooksandliars.com
 
2013-05-07 04:19:51 PM

vudukungfu: Starting to make Fox look professional.


Here's the thing about Fox News: they have a very specific narrative they put forth. They aren't very subtle, but they are damn good at it. CNN, on the other hand, doesn't know its ass from its elbow
 
2013-05-07 04:20:37 PM

Uzzah: cman: Remember the time when CNN actually stood for quality news?

Well, neither do I, but still...

Sure, 1991. Start of the first Gulf War. It made people like Wolf Blitzer and Bernard Shaw household names.

Granted, it was 22 years ago, but there was a time when CNN was the gold standard of news coverage.


Where you even alive back then? I was 13 at the time and CNN was just as sensational and shallow as it is now.
 
2013-05-07 04:24:27 PM

dnicoloff: Uzzah: cman: Remember the time when CNN actually stood for quality news?

Well, neither do I, but still...

Sure, 1991. Start of the first Gulf War. It made people like Wolf Blitzer and Bernard Shaw household names.

Granted, it was 22 years ago, but there was a time when CNN was the gold standard of news coverage.

Where you even alive back then? I was 13 at the time and CNN was just as sensational and shallow as it is now.


You're both right in a way. CNN hasn't changed, but people's savvy about media sensationalism and manipulation has changed. CNN just hasn't kept ahead of viewers.
 
2013-05-07 04:24:47 PM
There's no way this is more expensive than doing it another way.  I'm sure it was done for practical reasons.

In fact to do this property with them on the same 'set' you really need 3 cameras, this way they only needed 2.
 
2013-05-07 04:30:13 PM
"You have to admire CNN's commitment to cover all sides of a story, on the off-chance one of them might happen to be true"- President Barack Obama
 
2013-05-07 04:32:20 PM

Cluckity: You're both right in a way. CNN hasn't changed, but people's savvy about media sensationalism and manipulation has changed. CNN just hasn't kept ahead of viewers.


Let's see what Twitter has to say about whether CNN has changed...
 
2013-05-07 04:33:12 PM
Does HLN throw anyone else off? I keep thinking it's a spinoff of HGTV.
 
2013-05-07 04:38:28 PM
Wow. Next thing you'll tell me is that when Jon Stewart says he is talking to Samantha Bee live in Washington D.C., she's not actually in Washington D.C.
 
2013-05-07 04:39:45 PM

IrateShadow: Does HLN throw anyone else off? I keep thinking it's a spinoff of HGTV.


You mean it's not a home shopping channel? And here I was waiting to add to my Waterford Crystal and marginally useful kitchen gadget collections.
 
2013-05-07 04:41:00 PM

lostcat: I have no problem with this.

If CNN had made claims about their relative locations that were false I would have a problem. But I can see why this was easier to do than getting them together for a single shot when they were there independently.


I'm forced to agree, but it's still kind of hilarious and laughable at the end of the day.
 
2013-05-07 04:44:30 PM
This is the sort of thing you'd only expect from a South Park mockery of news!
 
2013-05-07 04:44:52 PM

jvl: I see nothing amiss.

They had other remote guests on using split screen. Yes, two of the participants are in the same parking lot.  The cameraman/director have to make a decision: do we put the two together and make things look stupid in split screen, or do we use two camera even though they are in the same parking lot.


The split screen has some benefits:

1.  Two people sitting at the same desk cannot look at each other and 'converse' and look at the camera at the same time.  This allows for a feeling of 'engagement' with the viewer.  It also reduces the awkwardness that looking at each other while also trying to look at the camera can generate.  Less movement means your mic doesn't get caught, your hair stays in place, the lighting remains somewhat constant, etc.
2.  If you wanted to bring in a third person, you run into this problem:
Option 1:  Show a shot of the third person, and ONE anchor with the shots in proportion
Option 2:  Show a shot of the third person, and BOTH anchors but now the anchors are shown out of proportion to the third party
Option 3: Show all three people in three windows, but leaving them tiny and wasting space.

I hate CNN for making me come up with something rational to say about Nancy Grace.
 
2013-05-07 04:46:16 PM
Off topic, but,,

What do they call the guy who makes sure that the banner/stock-ticker/LIVE obscures the important part of the video?    I want that job.
 
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