Aarontology: Don't worry. They'll still be charged with shooting that cop.
The Muthaship: Aarontology: Don't worry. They'll still be charged with shooting that cop.Yep. As he should be.
Aarontology: The Muthaship: Aarontology: Don't worry. They'll still be charged with shooting that cop.Yep. As he should be.Not if he wasn't the one who actually shot the cop, he shouldn't.
Aarontology: Huh. I wasn't aware of that you can be charged for when someone else shoots someone.Fascinating.
The Muthaship: Felony murder.
sentex: Wrong. Felony Murder Rule
Aarontology: Would I, as a citizen, be immune from the consequences like the cop who shot the other cop, if I happened to be passing by a shootout, decided to use my CCR rights to aid the cops, but accidentally ended up shooting one of them or an innocent bystander?
doyner: I realize that I don't have a GED in Law, but I seem to remember that murder requires a death to occur.
The Muthaship: doyner: I realize that I don't have a GED in Law, but I seem to remember that murder requires a death to occur.Correct. I didn't read the article, but I thought they said in the initial reports that an MIT campus cop got killed.
Snuffybud: Even if you didn't rtfa, the headline here is "The MBTA Transit Police officer that was shot by the Boston terrorists was actually shot by other cops. Oops". Kinda a clue there.
The Muthaship: I just can't put into words how sorry I am about the screw up. I swear it won't happen again.
"A black SUV appeared, and rapid gun fire was focused on the vehicle," Dyson wrote in a statement provided to the Globe, referring to the vehicle Tsarnaev allegedly drove in his escape. "It appeared to me that an individual at the corner [of the street] fell to the ground and had probably been hit in the gunfire."
brantgoose: I was wondering why a couple of guys said in news reports to be unarmed, which is to say without guns, would shoot a random university campus cop for no apparent reason.Now it makes some sense.Oops! Our bad!The only way to protect America from terrorists without guns is cops without guns. Arm the police with pressure cookers. They blow up spontaneous all the time, it is true, but apparently they must be added to the list of things that free people with massive arms and ammo stockpiles can not have for their own safety, like shampoo bottles that hold more than 3 oz., and shoes, and box cutters, and nail clippers., and those tiny little screwdrivers that you get in eyeglass repair kits and that look like accessories for Do It Yourself Barbie.
PC LOAD LETTER: Trained professionals miss, so we should continue arming everyone so we rely on the trained professionals, right?
brantgoose: a couple of guys said in news reports to be unarmed, which is to say without guns
doyner: The Muthaship: I just can't put into words how sorry I am about the screw up. I swear it won't happen again.This just isn't good enough. You must be punished.
brewswane: the cops did NOT do a good job! 9000 cops and locking down an entire city looking for a 19 year old kid. illegal search and seizurethey could have got the dogs after him
JK47: Aarontology: Would I, as a citizen, be immune from the consequences like the cop who shot the other cop, if I happened to be passing by a shootout, decided to use my CCR rights to aid the cops, but accidentally ended up shooting one of them or an innocent bystander?In general your privilege to exercise deadly force in self defense is limited to situations in which you were the target of force threatening serious or deadly bodily harm. You can, I believe, exercise this right if someone else would be so privileged (e.g. defending another who is being threatened). However, given the fact that cops were already engaging the terrorists, gun wielding bystanders, no matter how well-intentioned, won't be helpful and could make a chaotic situation much more confusing than it already is.
insano: Aarontology: Huh. I wasn't aware of that you can be charged for when someone else shoots someone.Fascinating.If you and a partner are robbing a store and your partner shoots and kills the clerk, guess what? You are on the hook for murder, even if you are only the getaway driver. If you start a shootout on a busy street and the cops shoot innocent civilians, guess what? You are at fault because you started the shootout. You created the dangerous situation. That is how the law does and should work.
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