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2013-05-07 11:59:35 AM  
4 votes:

FarkedOver: R.A.Danny: I love Israel more and more every day.

For having an apartheid like government?  That's nice.


For killing scum.
2013-05-07 01:12:33 PM  
3 votes:

FarkedOver: Bhasayate: perhaps even give me a replicator

That would be the immediate downfall of capitalism.  Hopefully we stumble upon that invention sooner rather than later.


How a Marxist thinks things get invented.
2013-05-07 12:27:13 PM  
3 votes:

R.A.Danny: Yet they obviously think Palestine is too crappy for them. No one is keeping them locked up in Israel, they're not wanted, and yet they stay. I think the right to complain has been waived.

i.imgur.com


You do realize that could have come out of Milosevic's mouth about the Bosnian Muslims, right? That you're advocating ethnic cleansing. Is that really what you want to advocate?

2013-05-07 12:06:45 PM  
3 votes:
img1.fark.net Some Members of Fark approve of Genocide against the millions of people of Iran by Hitlers bastard son Israel.
2013-05-07 11:58:39 AM  
3 votes:
And nothing of value was lost...

github.com
2013-05-07 11:57:06 AM  
3 votes:

R.A.Danny: I love Israel more and more every day.


For having an apartheid like government?  That's nice.
2013-05-07 01:13:14 PM  
2 votes:

FarkedOver

This is how you get to work if you are a Palestinian working in Israel.

Wow...

I wonder why...

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9/11
i95.photobucket.comi95.photobucket.com
... Ohhh that's right self preservation is wise.


// I've seen worse than what your pathetic photo shows at TSA airline lines here in the "land of the free"tm
2013-05-07 12:34:14 PM  
2 votes:

FarkedOver: namatad: you mean like EVERY country in the world?
Let me know when the white people have all left the US/Americas and given it back to the natives. Until then, all countries are theft.

I think borders are criminal. I think calling people "illegal" is farked up.  I'm not that big into nations and countries.


Good Luck with that.
2013-05-07 12:33:27 PM  
2 votes:

FarkedOver: R.A.Danny: Yet they obviously think Palestine is too crappy for them. No one is keeping them locked up in Israel, they're not wanted, and yet they stay. I think the right to complain has been waived.

After their land was taken and their homes bulldozed to make way for illegal settlements.  Yeah fark them.  They should just get on with their life.


There was a war, they lost. There was another war, the Israelis won. That guy in the pic was most likely not even borne when that happened, but keep complaining. Maybe strap on a bomb and walk into the town square. That seems like the common answer. Praise your blown up heroes, praise your heroes of 911, praise Allah.
2013-05-07 12:23:04 PM  
2 votes:

BgJonson79: Doesn't our border with Mexico look like that?


Good point.  At least the Israelis let migrant workers in.
2013-05-07 12:20:50 PM  
2 votes:

FarkedOver: Stone Meadow: FarkedOver: R.A.Danny: I love Israel more and more every day.

For having an apartheid like government?  That's nice.

[www.sabinabecker.com image 500x446]

Concern? This is how you get to work if you are a Palestinian working in Israel.

[ph.cdn.photos.upi.com image 850x559]


Doesn't our border with Mexico look like that?
2013-05-07 12:00:47 PM  
2 votes:

R.A.Danny: FarkedOver: R.A.Danny: I love Israel more and more every day.

For having an apartheid like government?  That's nice.

For killing scum.


aka: Random Brown People
2013-05-07 11:59:11 AM  
2 votes:
I bet it was someone from the Tea Party.
2013-05-07 11:56:38 AM  
2 votes:
I love Israel more and more every day.
2013-05-07 02:53:21 PM  
1 votes:
Think of it this way; Would the Americans tolerate a bunch of Canadians tossing rockets across the border? I think if we lit up Buffalo, NY with a bunch of rockets a whole lot of hurt would be coming our way, and you as Americans would feel completely justified in doing so. So why doesn't Israel have that right?
2013-05-07 02:08:05 PM  
1 votes:

FarkedOver: studs up: So the followers of the most murderous bunch of sociopaths can't agree on which path of blood to follow?

If you believe more deaths have occurred under the red flag than under any capitalist flag, you're sorely mistaken.


Statements like this is why no one takes you seriously. Has that been said already?
2013-05-07 02:06:54 PM  
1 votes:

Lagaidh: studs up: BgJonson79: vpb: BgJonson79:

aka: Random Brown People

Iranians are Aryan...

Tell that to a skin head.  Go ahead, I dare you.

I don't know any...

Hi there!

Unless you mean racist skin, then no. We all know that most skinheads aren't racist. right? Or are we back to that whole Geraldo, Quincy, Springer idea of what a skinhead is?

Heh.

The reputation of skinheads is in the toilet. If you tailor your look such that it is reminiscent of the popular image of a racist skinhead, then you'll get judged.

Meh. I guess the "hey... can a good skinhead get some love?" caught my eye funny.

"No, for the millionth time I am  not a Nazi! I just like these outfits!"


Outfits?
Anyway, if your life experience is dictated by what the TV tells you, that is exactly the type of response I would expect. We have all become broadstroke artists that rush to quantify people as fast as possible to avoid contact and rational thought. Enjoy your hole.
2013-05-07 01:52:14 PM  
1 votes:

FarkedOver: Bhasayate: I realize there are theories here, and am not unaware of them. Revolutions don't just happen; if one is a Marxist, then there are things one can do to get the ball rolling in that direction. Ergo, there are things one should do to help bring them about.

I understand that, BUT do you know how many different farking factions there are!? Stalinsts, Trots, Maoists, Titoists, on and on and on and on.... haha The sad state of the whole thing is none of these factions see eye to eye.  They are at each others throats more than that of the capitalist system.  But I am actually working on reconciling these differences in my area with a few like minded comrades.


So the followers of the most murderous bunch of sociopaths can't agree on which path of blood to follow?
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2013-05-07 01:42:53 PM  
1 votes:

Magnanimous_J: Serious question: How do you reconcile the fact that everywhere Marxism is embraced suffers crippling poverty, starvation, government corruption and the quality of the national products takes a complete nose dive?


by ignoring both sides
a proper government is a hybrid compromise of both factions.
socialism to help the bottom and regulated capitalism for everything else.

unregulated capitalism is as much a failure as "pure" socialism.
2013-05-07 01:36:29 PM  
1 votes:

FarkedOver: Bhasayate: But workers are complicit; they help to sustain the unjust system. If they would all just rise up already, things would be different. I mean, someone's got to start it. Might as well be you! Rally the troops! GO GO GO =D

There are ways to go about societal change and going balls to the wall for a full scale revolution is not in the cards at the moment haha.  There are other things, there are elections, running your own candidates, union organizing, community outreach and the like that I think are what is best for the cause at the moment.


Serious question: How do you reconcile the fact that everywhere Marxism is embraced suffers crippling poverty, starvation, government corruption and the quality of the national products takes a complete nose dive?
2013-05-07 01:34:42 PM  
1 votes:

vpb: Tell that to a skin head.  Go ahead, I dare you.


I have to plenty of racists and a couple former skins, it blows their mind. Iran literally means Aryan.
2013-05-07 01:28:26 PM  
1 votes:

FarkedOver: Bhasayate: FarkedOver: Bhasayate: FarkedOver: studs up: How a Marxist thinks things get invented.

No, I work in the intellectual property field.  I'm well aware of how things are "invented".

How can a Marxist believe in anything remotely like intellectual property?

I don't, I actually attribute most of my radicalization to my job haha

But you still work for an evil corporation and all that? Isn't that bad faith? Or something like that?

No, you cannot blame the worker for trying to make a living.  I wouldn't begrudge someone working in a weapons factory either.


But workers are complicit; they help to sustain the unjust system. If they would all just rise up already, things would be different. I mean, someone's got to start it. Might as well be you! Rally the troops! GO GO GO =D
2013-05-07 01:28:25 PM  
1 votes:
FEDRIGOTTI

And there's a little girl who is really misbehaving. She runs around, she's

throwing food.

The father decides to punish her right there by cracking the wine bottle

over her head,

throwing her to the ground, and kicking her repeatedly. You sit at the next

table. What do you do?


JOSH

The kid wasn't throwing food.


FEDRIGOTTI

Is there a crime that girl could commit, that would have justified what the

father did?


JOSH

[laughs] See, it's... it's problematic when other people make my argument

for me.


FEDRIGOTTI

Yeah. And if the father said, 'This is my child, and I will punish her any

way I choose,'

would you come to the conclusion that this father has lost all perspective,

and all judgement, and should be removed from equation?


At what point do start treating the government of Syria correctly and remove them from the equation?
2013-05-07 01:27:14 PM  
1 votes:

Bhasayate: Glad you brought up Syria. This is completely absurd, and all on Obama (can't blame Bush for this): the so-called "red line" was the use of Chemical Weapons, that that'd be a gamechanger, enough to provoke some sort of actual response (beyond making a speech or sternly worded letters), as if all that other killing by conventional means hadn't already passed some sort of line somewhere that justified intervention.

Of course, if the intervention isn't politically expedient, then don't hold your breath.


there were a couple lines/stories from west wing. about when you go in. what is the RIGHT thing to do.
C.J, joins Toby and Josh at the bar. Will has them all talking about foreign policy. C.J. asks Toby,"The guy across the street is beating up a pregnant woman. You don't go over there and try and stop it?" 
"The guy across the street is beating up anybody, I like to think I go over and try and stop it. But we aren't talking about the President going to Asia or the President going to Rwanda or the President going to Qumar. We're talking about the President sending other people's kids to do that." 
"That's always what we're talking about and in addition to being somebody's kids they're soldier's and sailors, and if we're about freedom from tyranny then we're about freedom from tyranny and if we're not we should shut up." 
"Yes,"  Josh says joining in. 
"...On Sunday he's taking an oath to ensure domestic tranquility,"  Toby reminds his co-workers. 
"And to establish justice and promote the general welfare,"  C.J. shoots back. "Stand by while atrocities are taking place and you're an accomplice." 
But Toby wants a real answer to the question, "...Why are you sending your kids across the street?" 
After a moment, C.J. has an answer, "'Cause those are somebody's kids, too."

Later the conversation is still going on. Josh tells Toby, "I'm not talking about fighting two wars at once. I'm not talking about fighting wars. Intervening when there's violence against people who are defenseless---" 
"Fine, but if we go here, that means they can go there. And look, there's more injustice over there." 
"We elect these people. And not for nothing, but if we'd been the world's policeman in the '30s, you and I----" 
"We'd have had a lot more relatives."
2013-05-07 01:21:50 PM  
1 votes:

FarkedOver: hardinparamedic: FarkedOver: namatad: you mean like EVERY country in the world?
Let me know when the white people have all left the US/Americas and given it back to the natives. Until then, all countries are theft.

I think borders are criminal. I think calling people "illegal" is farked up.  I'm not that big into nations and countries.

Things like that comment are what make people laugh at you.

I'm perfectly fine with that.  I'm sure people have laughed at many progressive ideas throughout the course of human history.


Yeah, dude-totally!  Now pass it.

media.thedenverchannel.com
2013-05-07 01:18:24 PM  
1 votes:

FarkedOver: studs up: How a Marxist thinks things get invented.

No, I work in the intellectual property field.  I'm well aware of how things are "invented".


How can a Marxist believe in anything remotely like intellectual property?
2013-05-07 12:57:54 PM  
1 votes:
But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials
2013-05-07 12:53:41 PM  
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: FarkedOver: namatad: you mean like EVERY country in the world?
Let me know when the white people have all left the US/Americas and given it back to the natives. Until then, all countries are theft.

I think borders are criminal. I think calling people "illegal" is farked up.  I'm not that big into nations and countries.

Things like that comment are what make people laugh at you.


I'm perfectly fine with that.  I'm sure people have laughed at many progressive ideas throughout the course of human history.
2013-05-07 12:53:06 PM  
1 votes:

BgJonson79: Bhasayate: Somacandra: namatad: You would THINK that people living in OKC were pretty aware that back in the cold war, they had a giant target on their heads.

We all knew it. But its not like we could do anything about it. And people needed jobs when the oil boom busted in the 80's. Missile and research complexes are built where they are for a variety of reasons, including access to infrastructure and labor delivery. One can't say that just because its next to a city means the govenrment intends to use humans as "shields."

As long as we're calling people out, remember that the US dropped nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

You mean, the Democratic Party, spearheaded by a beloved president, dropped nukes...


and we fire bombed tokyo and dresden.

dresden - 25k killed, 100-200k refugees
tokyo - ~100k killed
Hiroshima  - 90,000-166,000 killed
Nagasaki   - 60,000-80,000 killed

so nukes did about the same damage as conventional bombing. just quicker and with one drop.
not sure that the dead care.
2013-05-07 12:49:57 PM  
1 votes:

Vercengetorix: namatad: Somacandra: namatad: You would THINK that people living in OKC were pretty aware that back in the cold war, they had a giant target on their heads.

We all knew it. But its not like we could do anything about it. And people needed jobs when the oil boom busted in the 80's. Missile and research complexes are built where they are for a variety of reasons, including access to infrastructure and labor delivery. One can't say that just because its next to a city means the govenrment intends to use humans as "shields."

yes sort of
we used to have our bomb labs out in the middle of nowhere and people lived on base.
missile fields were out in the middle of nowhere. labor moved to the site.

intent of using them as shields doesnt really matter, they become de facto shields.
add in that little or nothing is done to discourage squatting/building outside the city walls ....

/yes, I LAUGH at the people who live next door to ohare and complain about the airport noise.

What about the people who's homes are seized through eminent domain to pave another runway?


Easy, 'the greater public good' justifies the action. Kind of like how 'the greater public good' justifies The Affordable Health Care Act and The Holocaust.

Actually, 'greater public good' arguments are just excuses to trample on individual (negative) rights.
2013-05-07 12:44:42 PM  
1 votes:

R.A.Danny: Yet they obviously think Palestine is too crappy for them. No one is keeping them locked up in Israel, they're not wanted, and yet they stay. I think the right to complain has been waived.


That's not true. Their neighbors are keeping them locked up in Israel. Egypt, Syria, and Jordan all actively keep Palestinians from emigrating.
2013-05-07 12:43:31 PM  
1 votes:

R.A.Danny: That very statement means you agree with Islam's war on the US, yet you don't think we should be blaming Islam for killing Americans and shouldn't be retaliating.


wait what?
war on the US? sure. Is every city a military target? no ...
can people at war do whatever they want? sure. geneva conventions were written to try to civilize war and have never worked. and to punish the losers after the fact.

on the other hand, 9/11 was a bunch of saudis, led by a saudi, ATTACK IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN!!!

/asymmetric warfare is not pretty
2013-05-07 12:40:47 PM  
1 votes:

namatad: You would THINK that people living in OKC were pretty aware that back in the cold war, they had a giant target on their heads.


We all knew it. But its not like we could do anything about it. And people needed jobs when the oil boom busted in the 80's. Missile and research complexes are built where they are for a variety of reasons, including access to infrastructure and labor delivery. One can't say that just because its next to a city means the govenrment intends to use humans as "shields."
2013-05-07 12:37:27 PM  
1 votes:

BgJonson79: You're comparing Israel's treatment of Palestinians, which admittedly could be MUCH better, to ethnic cleansing?


No, I'm comparing the quote I cited to Slobodan Milosevic's views. I'm asking how this Farker's view is somehow different than Milosevic's view. That was pretty clear.
2013-05-07 12:35:55 PM  
1 votes:

FarkedOver: BgJonson79: According to a class I took in college, about 85% of the land wasn't owned by Palestinians but absentee landlords in Turkey. The 15% that own land should have it returned, WITH INTEREST. The other people have no standing.

Too bad the land was given away before the Palestinian people had a chance to mount a Marxist revolution against the capitalist land owners.


Because Marxist revolutions always go so well and all.
2013-05-07 12:35:48 PM  
1 votes:

FarkedOver: BgJonson79: According to a class I took in college, about 85% of the land wasn't owned by Palestinians but absentee landlords in Turkey. The 15% that own land should have it returned, WITH INTEREST. The other people have no standing.

Too bad the land was given away before the Palestinian people had a chance to mount a Marxist revolution against the capitalist land owners.


So, stealing is ok?
2013-05-07 12:35:36 PM  
1 votes:

FarkedOver: namatad: you mean like EVERY country in the world?
Let me know when the white people have all left the US/Americas and given it back to the natives. Until then, all countries are theft.

I think borders are criminal. I think calling people "illegal" is farked up.  I'm not that big into nations and countries.


Things like that comment are what make people laugh at you.
2013-05-07 12:32:52 PM  
1 votes:

Somacandra: namatad: This is why Iran stores/builds their missiles in a big city. HUMAN SHIELDS are AWESOME SHIELDS.

Is that why Tinker Air Force base is located in the middle of Oklahoma City, or is this selectively criticizing Brown People again?


Did they place it in a city or did the city grow up around it?
2013-05-07 12:31:51 PM  
1 votes:

FarkedOver: R.A.Danny: Yet they obviously think Palestine is too crappy for them. No one is keeping them locked up in Israel, they're not wanted, and yet they stay. I think the right to complain has been waived.

After their land was taken and their homes bulldozed to make way for illegal settlements.  Yeah fark them.  They should just get on with their life.


According to a class I took in college, about 85% of the land wasn't owned by Palestinians but absentee landlords in Turkey.  The 15% that own land should have it returned, WITH INTEREST.  The other people have no standing.
2013-05-07 12:31:40 PM  
1 votes:

FarkedOver: BgJonson79: FarkedOver: studs up: Wonder why that is?

Because all Palestinians are terrorists in the eyes of the Israeli government.

Their government is, anyway.  By most countries' definitions.

As is the American (and Israeli) government. By most countries' definitions.

[www.humanrightsfirst.org image 250x150]


See, most Americans are entirely incapable of seeing things from any perspective that might question the total moral superiority of their country and that it is always on the right side of history.  American's just dont understand the significance of something like that.
2013-05-07 12:29:39 PM  
1 votes:

BgJonson79: Iranians are Aryan...


Wait.  Quiet.  Zarathrusta's about to speak.
2013-05-07 12:29:19 PM  
1 votes:

FarkedOver: studs up: Wonder why that is?

Because all  enough Palestinians are terrorists in the eyes of the Israeli government.


ftfy

Maybe if they quit blowing shiat up, things will open up a bit. It's not like they couldn't use the money being poured into there to do something a little less murderous, like say, a falafel franchise or something.
2013-05-07 12:26:43 PM  
1 votes:

sheep snorter: [img1.fark.net image 54x11] Some Members of Fark approve of Genocide against the millions of people of Iran by Hitlers bastard son Israel.


hahhahahahahah ahah hahaa
hahah ahah ahaha ha haha hha hhaah ahha hahah

I have zero problem with attacking a country which is planning on attacking another country.
Are we required to WAIT until a nuke is dropped on chicago before stopping "them"?
Is it ok to preventively stop war mongerers?
/yes, I am aware that this skirts the whole "who watches the watchers" issue and "one man's terrorists is another man's found fathers/freedom fighters"
2013-05-07 12:25:52 PM  
1 votes:

FarkedOver: studs up: Wonder why that is?

Because all Palestinians are terrorists in the eyes of the Israeli government.


Their government is, anyway.  By most countries' definitions.
2013-05-07 12:24:26 PM  
1 votes:

rufus-t-firefly: Possibly dead Iranians?

Fine, I'll do it.

[i575.photobucket.com image 625x415]


Hey, remember when Fark really liked Iranians? It wore a tagband and everything.
2013-05-07 12:22:32 PM  
1 votes:

FarkedOver: Stone Meadow: FarkedOver: R.A.Danny: I love Israel more and more every day.

For having an apartheid like government?  That's nice.

[www.sabinabecker.com image 500x446]

Concern? This is how you get to work if you are a Palestinian working in Israel.

[ph.cdn.photos.upi.com image 850x559]


Wonder why that is?
2013-05-07 12:20:19 PM  
1 votes:
Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say that this didn't actually happen. No other news source has this story and JP isn't exactly reliable.
2013-05-07 12:18:18 PM  
1 votes:

vpb: BgJonson79:

aka: Random Brown People

Iranians are Aryan...

Tell that to a skin head.  Go ahead, I dare you.


Don't pick a fight with a skin head.  Just take him bowling instead.
2013-05-07 12:16:35 PM  
1 votes:

sheep snorter: [img1.fark.net image 54x11] Some Members of Fark approve of Genocide against the millions of people of Iran by Hitlers bastard son Israel.


i.imgur.com
2013-05-07 12:14:07 PM  
1 votes:

FarkedOver: R.A.Danny: I love Israel more and more every day.

For having an apartheid like government?  That's nice.


www.sabinabecker.com
2013-05-07 12:13:26 PM  
1 votes:
Are Iranian officials calling it an "act of terror," or are they calling it a "terrorist attack?"

This is Ahmadinejad's Benghazi.
2013-05-07 12:11:57 PM  
1 votes:

studs up: We all know that most skinheads aren't racist. right


I can categorically guarantee you that most people don't think that.
2013-05-07 12:11:21 PM  
1 votes:
Question,
Whats to stop someone from covertly nuking an Iranian nuke storage depot/uranium refinery and then just turning around and saying to the rest of the world "Well that's what you get for farking around with nukes"
Sure, the Iranians will claim that some outside force was responsible,(it was the evil Zionists etc), but no one takes anything they say seriously anyway.
If it was done in such a way to look like an accident then it might have the extra effect of deterring other non-nuclear countries from trying to achieve the bomb.
2013-05-07 12:06:47 PM  
1 votes:

Lost Thought 00: R.A.Danny: FarkedOver: R.A.Danny: I love Israel more and more every day.

For having an apartheid like government?  That's nice.

For killing scum.

aka: Random Brown People


bbsimg.ngfiles.com
2013-05-07 12:03:17 PM  
1 votes:
This just in....trouble in the Middle East
/drop the gloves already
2013-05-07 12:01:27 PM  
1 votes:

Lost Thought 00: R.A.Danny: FarkedOver: R.A.Danny: I love Israel more and more every day.

For having an apartheid like government?  That's nice.

For killing scum.

aka: Random Brown People


Specific brown people.
2013-05-07 12:00:42 PM  
1 votes:
I am sure Obama do too much and not enough in response.
2013-05-07 11:59:24 AM  
1 votes:
Aaaannnd... I think I'll just go buy gas now.

/Who am I kidding, I drive an RX-8, I have to buy gas every other day.
2013-05-07 11:58:49 AM  
1 votes:
I don't know why, but this one leaves me feeling a higher pucker factor than the other reports of this previous month.
2013-05-07 11:57:45 AM  
1 votes:
Apparently they were taken by surprise by Adobe's new subscription model
2013-05-07 11:57:13 AM  
1 votes:
Explosions, my ass. It's probably Milhouse.
2013-05-07 11:56:30 AM  
1 votes:

somedude210: any verification of this from another source?


I bet someone dropped something. Time to reset the OSHA board.
2013-05-07 11:53:35 AM  
1 votes:
any verification of this from another source?
 
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