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2013-05-07 12:44:42 PM  

R.A.Danny: Yet they obviously think Palestine is too crappy for them. No one is keeping them locked up in Israel, they're not wanted, and yet they stay. I think the right to complain has been waived.


That's not true. Their neighbors are keeping them locked up in Israel. Egypt, Syria, and Jordan all actively keep Palestinians from emigrating.
 
2013-05-07 12:44:57 PM  

Bhasayate: Somacandra: namatad: You would THINK that people living in OKC were pretty aware that back in the cold war, they had a giant target on their heads.

We all knew it. But its not like we could do anything about it. And people needed jobs when the oil boom busted in the 80's. Missile and research complexes are built where they are for a variety of reasons, including access to infrastructure and labor delivery. One can't say that just because its next to a city means the govenrment intends to use humans as "shields."

As long as we're calling people out, remember that the US dropped nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.


You mean, the Democratic Party, spearheaded by a beloved president, dropped nukes...
 
2013-05-07 12:45:12 PM  

A Shambling Mound: Wow, this thread is just....just...f*ck, I don't know.

Is this "Everyone go off your meds week" and I didn't get the memo or something?


Have a drink ... a pot of coffee ... cannot think
 
2013-05-07 12:46:44 PM  

Somacandra: namatad: You would THINK that people living in OKC were pretty aware that back in the cold war, they had a giant target on their heads.

We all knew it. But its not like we could do anything about it. And people needed jobs when the oil boom busted in the 80's. Missile and research complexes are built where they are for a variety of reasons, including access to infrastructure and labor delivery. One can't say that just because its next to a city means the govenrment intends to use humans as "shields."


yes sort of
we used to have our bomb labs out in the middle of nowhere and people lived on base.
missile fields were out in the middle of nowhere. labor moved to the site.

intent of using them as shields doesnt really matter, they become de facto shields.
add in that little or nothing is done to discourage squatting/building outside the city walls ....

/yes, I LAUGH at the people who live next door to ohare and complain about the airport noise.
 
2013-05-07 12:47:29 PM  

maxx2112: It appears Operation Jewish Lightning was a success.


/ i keed, I keed


If someone named Goldstein takes out an insurance policy on your secret missile factory, it's a pretty good indication you should not go in to work that week.
 
2013-05-07 12:47:29 PM  

BgJonson79: FarkedOver: BgJonson79: According to a class I took in college, about 85% of the land wasn't owned by Palestinians but absentee landlords in Turkey. The 15% that own land should have it returned, WITH INTEREST. The other people have no standing.

Too bad the land was given away before the Palestinian people had a chance to mount a Marxist revolution against the capitalist land owners.

So, stealing is ok?


Well what have owners been doing to labor since the dawn of capitalism? Withholding wages for profit.
 
2013-05-07 12:47:44 PM  

namatad: on the other hand, 9/11 was a bunch of saudis, led by a saudi, ATTACK IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN!!!


I'll give you Iraq, but the war in Afghanistan eventually gave us the ringleader.
 
2013-05-07 12:47:53 PM  

namatad: Somacandra: namatad: You would THINK that people living in OKC were pretty aware that back in the cold war, they had a giant target on their heads.

We all knew it. But its not like we could do anything about it. And people needed jobs when the oil boom busted in the 80's. Missile and research complexes are built where they are for a variety of reasons, including access to infrastructure and labor delivery. One can't say that just because its next to a city means the govenrment intends to use humans as "shields."

yes sort of
we used to have our bomb labs out in the middle of nowhere and people lived on base.
missile fields were out in the middle of nowhere. labor moved to the site.

intent of using them as shields doesnt really matter, they become de facto shields.
add in that little or nothing is done to discourage squatting/building outside the city walls ....

/yes, I LAUGH at the people who live next door to ohare and complain about the airport noise.


What about the people who's homes are seized through eminent domain to pave another runway?
 
2013-05-07 12:47:58 PM  

BgJonson79: Bhasayate: Somacandra: namatad: You would THINK that people living in OKC were pretty aware that back in the cold war, they had a giant target on their heads.

We all knew it. But its not like we could do anything about it. And people needed jobs when the oil boom busted in the 80's. Missile and research complexes are built where they are for a variety of reasons, including access to infrastructure and labor delivery. One can't say that just because its next to a city means the govenrment intends to use humans as "shields."

As long as we're calling people out, remember that the US dropped nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

You mean, the Democratic Party, spearheaded by a beloved president, dropped nukes...


Yeah, and Truman didn't even know about the existence of The Manhattan Project until Roosevelt died. They couldn't trust him with that intel, I guess.
 
2013-05-07 12:48:08 PM  
So, here's a question. In a lot of these threads, one of the legitimate comments people keep saying over and over is "how people view the US".

Is the opinion of others far more important than doing the right thing? If it made us look good to stay out of the fight entirely, should we do that? Why should we ignore the genocide of people in any nation and not help because of what people think?

It does seem a bit odd to me that the opinion of foreign powers means more than standing up for the lives of people who get steamrolled by anyone.  No matter WHAT the US does, we're going to get someone pissed off, and be hated. Invade on the side of the rebels in Syria? ZOMG WARMONGER US! DON'T invade or do anything to help the rebels? ZOMG THE US IS LETTING THE PEOPLE GET SLAUGHTERED!

Thank god we haven't gone anywhere near the African nations, so largely no one blames us for any of it, but I'm sure that somehow, some way we're responsible for the ethnic cleansing and civil wars there.
 
2013-05-07 12:49:57 PM  

Vercengetorix: namatad: Somacandra: namatad: You would THINK that people living in OKC were pretty aware that back in the cold war, they had a giant target on their heads.

We all knew it. But its not like we could do anything about it. And people needed jobs when the oil boom busted in the 80's. Missile and research complexes are built where they are for a variety of reasons, including access to infrastructure and labor delivery. One can't say that just because its next to a city means the govenrment intends to use humans as "shields."

yes sort of
we used to have our bomb labs out in the middle of nowhere and people lived on base.
missile fields were out in the middle of nowhere. labor moved to the site.

intent of using them as shields doesnt really matter, they become de facto shields.
add in that little or nothing is done to discourage squatting/building outside the city walls ....

/yes, I LAUGH at the people who live next door to ohare and complain about the airport noise.

What about the people who's homes are seized through eminent domain to pave another runway?


Easy, 'the greater public good' justifies the action. Kind of like how 'the greater public good' justifies The Affordable Health Care Act and The Holocaust.

Actually, 'greater public good' arguments are just excuses to trample on individual (negative) rights.
 
2013-05-07 12:50:30 PM  
Tinker AFB is actually in Midwest City which grew up around the base.  The base was fairly far out from okc at the time.  The cities have merged in the meantime, but tinker is still kinda on the edge of the metro.  Just FYI.
 
2013-05-07 12:50:48 PM  
Meh. Seems like a BS link.
Fark doesn't really get to stand on a pedestal and decry baseless sensationalism when shiat like this goes through.
 
2013-05-07 12:51:08 PM  

namatad: R.A.Danny: That very statement means you agree with Islam's war on the US, yet you don't think we should be blaming Islam for killing Americans and shouldn't be retaliating.

wait what?
war on the US? sure. Is every city a military target? no ...
can people at war do whatever they want? sure. geneva conventions were written to try to civilize war and have never worked. and to punish the losers after the fact.

on the other hand, 9/11 was a bunch of saudis, led by a saudi, ATTACK IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN!!!

/asymmetric warfare is not pretty


Yes, because the nationality of the enemy always equates to their allegiance/governing authority?

Al Qaeda was a force being funded by the Taliban, in Afghanistan.

However, to be frank, the ideals of militant Islam is a multinational thing, and it would be goddamn impossible to separate the good guys from the bad over there on a national level.
 
2013-05-07 12:52:18 PM  

Bravo Two: However, to be frank, the ideals of militant Islam is a multinational thing, and it would be goddamn impossible to separate the good guys from the bad over there on a national level.


It would be totally wrong to let Allah do it.
 
2013-05-07 12:52:33 PM  

namatad: Somacandra: namatad: This is why Iran stores/builds their missiles in a big city. HUMAN SHIELDS are AWESOME SHIELDS.

Is that why Tinker Air Force base is located in the middle of Oklahoma City, or is this selectively criticizing Brown People again?

nah, but military targets are military targets no matter how many people live next door.
You would THINK that people living in OKC were pretty aware that back in the cold war, they had a giant target on their heads.


They still do.  Those Russian missiles didn't just simply disappear in 1991.  Nor did our nuclear arsenal that is still most likely targeting Russia.  Sure, we were told the missiles are no longer targeted at blah blah blah, and we did the same in good faith, but does anyone actually believe that?
 
2013-05-07 12:52:55 PM  

Bravo Two: So, here's a question. In a lot of these threads, one of the legitimate comments people keep saying over and over is "how people view the US".

Is the opinion of others far more important than doing the right thing? If it made us look good to stay out of the fight entirely, should we do that? Why should we ignore the genocide of people in any nation and not help because of what people think?

It does seem a bit odd to me that the opinion of foreign powers means more than standing up for the lives of people who get steamrolled by anyone.  No matter WHAT the US does, we're going to get someone pissed off, and be hated. Invade on the side of the rebels in Syria? ZOMG WARMONGER US! DON'T invade or do anything to help the rebels? ZOMG THE US IS LETTING THE PEOPLE GET SLAUGHTERED!

Thank god we haven't gone anywhere near the African nations, so largely no one blames us for any of it, but I'm sure that somehow, some way we're responsible for the ethnic cleansing and civil wars there.


Sure, here's how to argue that point: The US, in virtue of its power and riches, has to respect the positive rights of people everywhere all over the world, regardless of silly things like borders and citizenship, or being many miles away. Failing to respect the positive rights of others means a failure to give others what is owed to them, and a failure to give what is owed to others is a failure of justice. So, the US is unjust for not helping African nations.
 
2013-05-07 12:53:06 PM  

BgJonson79: Bhasayate: Somacandra: namatad: You would THINK that people living in OKC were pretty aware that back in the cold war, they had a giant target on their heads.

We all knew it. But its not like we could do anything about it. And people needed jobs when the oil boom busted in the 80's. Missile and research complexes are built where they are for a variety of reasons, including access to infrastructure and labor delivery. One can't say that just because its next to a city means the govenrment intends to use humans as "shields."

As long as we're calling people out, remember that the US dropped nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

You mean, the Democratic Party, spearheaded by a beloved president, dropped nukes...


and we fire bombed tokyo and dresden.

dresden - 25k killed, 100-200k refugees
tokyo - ~100k killed
Hiroshima  - 90,000-166,000 killed
Nagasaki   - 60,000-80,000 killed

so nukes did about the same damage as conventional bombing. just quicker and with one drop.
not sure that the dead care.
 
2013-05-07 12:53:41 PM  

hardinparamedic: FarkedOver: namatad: you mean like EVERY country in the world?
Let me know when the white people have all left the US/Americas and given it back to the natives. Until then, all countries are theft.

I think borders are criminal. I think calling people "illegal" is farked up.  I'm not that big into nations and countries.

Things like that comment are what make people laugh at you.


I'm perfectly fine with that.  I'm sure people have laughed at many progressive ideas throughout the course of human history.
 
2013-05-07 12:53:51 PM  

sheep snorter: [img1.fark.net image 54x11] Some Members of Fark approve of Genocide against the millions of people of Iran by Hitlers bastard son Israel.


You forgot the "CNN Reports:".
 
2013-05-07 12:54:51 PM  

FarkedOver: namatad: you mean like EVERY country in the world?
Let me know when the white people have all left the US/Americas and given it back to the natives. Until then, all countries are theft.

I think borders are criminal. I think calling people "illegal" is farked up.  I'm not that big into nations and countries.


Then GTFO.
 
2013-05-07 12:54:53 PM  

namatad: BgJonson79: Bhasayate: Somacandra: namatad: You would THINK that people living in OKC were pretty aware that back in the cold war, they had a giant target on their heads.

We all knew it. But its not like we could do anything about it. And people needed jobs when the oil boom busted in the 80's. Missile and research complexes are built where they are for a variety of reasons, including access to infrastructure and labor delivery. One can't say that just because its next to a city means the govenrment intends to use humans as "shields."

As long as we're calling people out, remember that the US dropped nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

You mean, the Democratic Party, spearheaded by a beloved president, dropped nukes...

and we fire bombed tokyo and dresden.

dresden - 25k killed, 100-200k refugees
tokyo - ~100k killed
Hiroshima  - 90,000-166,000 killed
Nagasaki   - 60,000-80,000 killed

so nukes did about the same damage as conventional bombing. just quicker and with one drop.
not sure that the dead care.


That's the rub: if you're going to call the Nukes unjust, on account of the massive number of civilian/noncombatant causalities, then you've got to call the fire bombings unjust on those grounds, too -- if you care about things like rational consistency anyway.
 
2013-05-07 12:55:29 PM  

FarkedOver: hardinparamedic: FarkedOver: namatad: you mean like EVERY country in the world?
Let me know when the white people have all left the US/Americas and given it back to the natives. Until then, all countries are theft.

I think borders are criminal. I think calling people "illegal" is farked up.  I'm not that big into nations and countries.

Things like that comment are what make people laugh at you.

I'm perfectly fine with that.  I'm sure people have laughed at many progressive ideas throughout the course of human history.


And, in many cases, rightly so.
 
2013-05-07 12:55:29 PM  

R.A.Danny: They're killing more of themselves than anyone else is.


That's true of any grossly marginalized population attempting to resist under some form of colonialism. Slave insurrections in the USA killed far more slaves than slaveholders, precisely because slaveholders had legal, physical, socially structured and firepower superiority. This means that there are gross forms of systematic injustice that need to be addressed--its not something to celebrate.
 
2013-05-07 12:56:25 PM  

Bhasayate: And, in many cases, rightly so.


*shrugs*
 
2013-05-07 12:57:09 PM  

4NTLRZ: FarkedOver: namatad: you mean like EVERY country in the world?
Let me know when the white people have all left the US/Americas and given it back to the natives. Until then, all countries are theft.

I think borders are criminal. I think calling people "illegal" is farked up.  I'm not that big into nations and countries.

Then GTFO.


He/she won't. I mean, really, why not benefit from being a citizen while working to subvert it from the inside? That's Marxism 101. It's like collecting welfare and using it to make bombs and stuff.
 
2013-05-07 12:57:29 PM  

FarkedOver: Workers at a factory = scum? Interesting.


His disdain for the proletariat is shamelessly evident.
 
2013-05-07 12:57:54 PM  
But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials
 
2013-05-07 12:59:23 PM  

FarkedOver: Bhasayate: And, in many cases, rightly so.

*shrugs*


Political Idealism is idealistic. But we live in a real world and all. Any politic with a hope of having an effect on the world as it is needs to take reality into consideration. You'd think this would be an obvious truth. But don't let facts get in the way of ideology, my friend. Stay the course. A thousand points of light. Hope. Change. Whatever.
 
2013-05-07 12:59:48 PM  

TommyJReed: If it was done in such a way to look like an accident then it might have the extra effect of deterring other non-nuclear countries from trying to achieve the bomb.


You'd have to make a bomb that was a deliberate fizzle, as any legitimate accident is not going to be a full blown detonation. Any seismic signature that showed a real bomb going off isn't going to fool anyone who knows anything will know it was a setup.
 
2013-05-07 12:59:50 PM  

BgJonson79: Bhasayate: As long as we're calling people out, remember that the US dropped nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

You mean, the Democratic Party, spearheaded by a beloved president, dropped nukes...



i.imgur.com

Factually incorrect. Most who were approached about it did not want to do it. Its was Secretary of State Byrnes's idea and it was aimed at the Soviets who were almost finished bringing their armies from the Western Front for a land invasion of Japan.
 
2013-05-07 01:00:17 PM  

R.A.Danny: namatad: on the other hand, 9/11 was a bunch of saudis, led by a saudi, ATTACK IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN!!!

I'll give you Iraq, but the war in Afghanistan eventually gave us the ringleader.


no question that the taliban are pretty farking ugly. and were allowing training camps, still are allowing training camps ...

Vercengetorix: What about the people who's homes are seized through eminent domain to pave another runway?

shudder
where do you draw the line? that one house in china, in the middle of the road?? LOL

governments have always had eminent domain, we have at times tried to do a better job of it.
pretty sure that most of the houses/people were offered reasonable buyouts. holdouts got less or nothing.
progress SUCKS
everytime I bulldoze to make new and better roads, the ants get so upset, until later, when everything settles down and everyone is HAPPY with the new roads/rails/airports

in some ways, eminent domain goes part and parcel with civilization. we have gotten better at over the last couple of centuries.
 
2013-05-07 01:00:25 PM  

Somacandra: R.A.Danny: They're killing more of themselves than anyone else is.

That's true of any grossly marginalized population attempting to resist under some form of colonialism. Slave insurrections in the USA killed far more slaves than slaveholders, precisely because slaveholders had legal, physical, socially structured and firepower superiority. This means that there are gross forms of systematic injustice that need to be addressed--its not something to celebrate.


Somebody owns them? Where's the paperwork?
 
2013-05-07 01:00:44 PM  

FarkedOver: BgJonson79: FarkedOver: BgJonson79: According to a class I took in college, about 85% of the land wasn't owned by Palestinians but absentee landlords in Turkey. The 15% that own land should have it returned, WITH INTEREST. The other people have no standing.

Too bad the land was given away before the Palestinian people had a chance to mount a Marxist revolution against the capitalist land owners.

So, stealing is ok?

Well what have owners been doing to labor since the dawn of capitalism? Withholding wages for profit.


How is that stealing when THEY'RE THE OWNERS?
 
2013-05-07 01:01:40 PM  

Bhasayate: FarkedOver: Bhasayate: And, in many cases, rightly so.

*shrugs*

Political Idealism is idealistic. But we live in a real world and all. Any politic with a hope of having an effect on the world as it is needs to take reality into consideration. You'd think this would be an obvious truth. But don't let facts get in the way of ideology, my friend. Stay the course. A thousand points of light. Hope. Change. Whatever.


Sure, I don't deny reality.  But I also don't deny the possibility of working class revolutions.
 
2013-05-07 01:02:34 PM  

Somacandra: BgJonson79: Bhasayate: As long as we're calling people out, remember that the US dropped nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

You mean, the Democratic Party, spearheaded by a beloved president, dropped nukes...


[i.imgur.com image 200x309]

Factually incorrect. Most who were approached about it did not want to do it. Its was Secretary of State Byrnes's idea and it was aimed at the Soviets who were almost finished bringing their armies from the Western Front for a land invasion of Japan.


Secretary of State is in the Executive Branch, overseen by the President.
 
2013-05-07 01:03:12 PM  

BgJonson79: How is that stealing when THEY'RE THE OWNERS?


Working for a wage is slavery.

(am I doing this right?)
 
2013-05-07 01:03:39 PM  

FarkedOver: namatad: you mean like EVERY country in the world?
Let me know when the white people have all left the US/Americas and given it back to the natives. Until then, all countries are theft.

I think borders are criminal. I think calling people "illegal" is farked up.  I'm not that big into nations and countries.


Not sure if trolling.
 
2013-05-07 01:03:42 PM  

BgJonson79: How is that stealing when THEY'RE THE OWNERS?


Because they are inherently EXPLOITING LABOR FOR THE SAKE OF ACCUMULATION.
 
2013-05-07 01:04:19 PM  

GoldSpider: BgJonson79: How is that stealing when THEY'RE THE OWNERS?

Working for a wage is slavery.

(am I doing this right?)


Working to live is indentured servitude.  Not an upgrade.

(Did I troll back well enough? :-D )
 
2013-05-07 01:05:12 PM  

FarkedOver: Bhasayate: FarkedOver: Bhasayate: And, in many cases, rightly so.

*shrugs*

Political Idealism is idealistic. But we live in a real world and all. Any politic with a hope of having an effect on the world as it is needs to take reality into consideration. You'd think this would be an obvious truth. But don't let facts get in the way of ideology, my friend. Stay the course. A thousand points of light. Hope. Change. Whatever.

Sure, I don't deny reality.  But I also don't deny the possibility of working class revolutions.


Not denying things that are logically possible is a great thing. But thinking that just because it's logically possible doesn't mean it's a real (i.e., metaphysical) possibility. Or that working class revolutions are or will lead to good or even better things.

I mean, I can't deny the possibility that I'll find a bag of diamonds in my driveway later today, or that aliens will land in my back yard and hang out and have a fun bbq with me, perhaps even give me a replicator so I can turn my shiat into diamonds and have lots of $$. But that's just silly talk.
 
2013-05-07 01:06:11 PM  

GoldSpider: BgJonson79: How is that stealing when THEY'RE THE OWNERS?

Working for a wage is slavery.

(am I doing this right?)


I'll make you a Marxist yet.
 
2013-05-07 01:06:34 PM  

BgJonson79: Somacandra: BgJonson79: Bhasayate: As long as we're calling people out, remember that the US dropped nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

You mean, the Democratic Party, spearheaded by a beloved president, dropped nukes...


[i.imgur.com image 200x309]

Factually incorrect. Most who were approached about it did not want to do it. Its was Secretary of State Byrnes's idea and it was aimed at the Soviets who were almost finished bringing their armies from the Western Front for a land invasion of Japan.

Secretary of State is in the Executive Branch, overseen by the President.


It didn't matter as it turns out as the Rosenberg's gave the bomb to the Soviets anyway.

cliffcosmos.blogsport.de
 
2013-05-07 01:06:34 PM  

Bhasayate: Kind of like how 'the greater public good' justifies The Affordable Health Care Act and The Holocaust.


Adjust the dosage - it's destroying your ability to think.
 
2013-05-07 01:08:21 PM  

GoldSpider: BgJonson79: How is that stealing when THEY'RE THE OWNERS?

Working for a wage is slavery.

(am I doing this right?)


Good start. Better to work up to that, though. Give it some sort of grounding that sounds convincing. This might sound good.

For corporations to employ workers inevitably fails to respect the autonomy of the workers, which is to infringe on their rights. Any such failure and infringement is morally wrong, and akin to slavery. Thus, the social institution of 'wage earning' endemic to corporations is akin to slavery, and hence morally wrong.
 
2013-05-07 01:08:24 PM  

BgJonson79: FarkedOver: BgJonson79: FarkedOver: BgJonson79: According to a class I took in college, about 85% of the land wasn't owned by Palestinians but absentee landlords in Turkey. The 15% that own land should have it returned, WITH INTEREST. The other people have no standing.

Too bad the land was given away before the Palestinian people had a chance to mount a Marxist revolution against the capitalist land owners.

So, stealing is ok?

Well what have owners been doing to labor since the dawn of capitalism? Withholding wages for profit.

How is that stealing when THEY'RE THE OWNERS?


First you have to deny the validity of contracts (rate of pay accepted by the worker) and then deny that investment capital is risk ( do workers give up their cash back when a business fails) and then claim all profit's go to the owners and not back into the company to grow it so more workers can have jobs. Then tax the shiat out of it for "equality".
 
2013-05-07 01:08:36 PM  

Bhasayate: That's the rub: if you're going to call the Nukes unjust, on account of the massive number of civilian/noncombatant causalities, then you've got to call the fire bombings unjust on those grounds, too -- if you care about things like rational consistency anyway.


at LEAST tokyo, nagasaki and hiroshima had a certain amount of war manufacturer. dresden was just plain payback.
it is funny when we try to talk about "justice" when discussing war and mass killings.

Syria is a great example. 120,000 killed overall (April 2013 SOHR estimate).
But the world has done nothing to stop this.
1) civil war - we have to respect their sovereignty. ROFL
2) two years and counting - so if the deaths happen slowly over a long enough period of time, THAT is ok?
3) EVIL REBELS vs Freedom Fighters - how do you actually tell the difference?
4) when should we do something? Rwanda? Somalia? the list goes on and on and on.

"The Taliban movement traces its origin to the Pakistani-trained mujahideen in northern Pakistan, during the Soviet war in Afghanistan"
One day they were a bunch of freedom fighters, the next day, evil motherfarkers.

We like to think that we are past the days of playing the game of thrones. LOL. not even close.
 
2013-05-07 01:09:02 PM  

GoldSpider: BgJonson79: How is that stealing when THEY'RE THE OWNERS?

Working for a wage is slavery.

(am I doing this right?)


Power to the people!


chineseposters.net
 
2013-05-07 01:09:15 PM  

CheatCommando: Bhasayate: Kind of like how 'the greater public good' justifies The Affordable Health Care Act and The Holocaust.

Adjust the dosage - it's destroying your ability to think.


Hey, I'm just making arguments, trying to focus the conversation a bit, rather than just emoting and stuff.
 
2013-05-07 01:09:18 PM  

Bhasayate: perhaps even give me a replicator


That would be the immediate downfall of capitalism.  Hopefully we stumble upon that invention sooner rather than later.
 
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